Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-23 Thread Gabriel Thullen
I also agree with Itzik and James. The chapters depend on the Wikimedia Foundation for a large part of their finances, so when something like this happens, the whole movement is concerned, not just Wikimedia Philippines. When one chapter of affiliate looks bad, everybody will get part of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-23 Thread Gnangarra
It should have been noted that the Philippines affiliate https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PhilWiki_Community is going strong and actively working in the region, they continue to do so with support. I think care should be taken with such negative notices to ensure we dont damage the existing and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-23 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
I have a request and/or question. I've got the idea from "Incident report". When things don't go as planned in servers, we write an incident report and try to learn from lapses happened. Now my question is. Has something similar done for chapters that get de-recognized? Do you want to talk to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-23 Thread
Itzik has put it nicely. The volunteers in Affcom are committed folks, and it is reassuring that multiple steps are taken to encourage struggling affiliates to meet the basic requirements. Running a chapter is a hard burden for a small group of volunteers, particularly if relying on volunteers to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-23 Thread James Heilman
I second Itzik's comments. We need some degree of accountability. Hopefully this will encourage groups in the Philippines to become more active again. James On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote: > Thank you Maor for the update. > > We usually

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

2017-04-23 Thread Peter Southwood
I would think this is up to the chapter/affilate organisation, but no harm in getting a more universal collection of opinions. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gabriel Thullen Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

2017-04-23 Thread Gabriel Thullen
I suggest another question, right after your #5. Undisclosed paid editing is one thing, dealing with disclosed paid editors within our community is another. You could add the following question: "Asking if we agree to let disclosed paid editors occupy key positions within the Wikimedia movement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter De-Recognition: Wikimedia Philippines

2017-04-23 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Thank you Maor for the update. We usually love to see our movement expend and welcome recognition of new organizations, but I strongly believe that we continuously need to check and evaluate our current organizations. Our brand, name and reputation are part of our core assets - and while it's