Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread James Salsman
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:19 AM, FRED BAUDER wrote: > I think we could hire professional fact checkers and target articles that > have gotten off track. I don't think a great deal of money would be > necessary to set an example, and illustrate some of our notorious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Peter Southwood
I like the idea. That is one big knowledge gap to be filled, but it could be started. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lionel Allorge Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:32 PM To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread geni
On 17 May 2017 at 18:08, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? Space program. A billion should get you a couple of dawn clones and if you focus on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > I love it, although I suspect that 1B wouldn't be enough. The industry of > for-profit academic publishing is probably worth much more than that, and > it won't give up easily. > > Not that I don't support

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Lionel Allorge
Hi, > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? In many areas we lack good secondary sources. Some times we don't even have any secondary sources. I did some work at the National Manufacture of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee Recommendations - Round 2 of 2016-17

2017-05-17 Thread rupert THURNER
To be clear I did only suggest to list a number for the activities the fdc gives a comment. I e. Fill out the first column and put a not applicable in the recommended money column. On May 17, 2017 04:25, "Pine W" wrote: > For what it's worth, there has been previous

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread James Heilman
We have built up an amazing amount of good will. When we raise money we spend some of that good will. Unless we have something worth spending it on, no need to do so. We already have a lot of professional fact checkers. I for example am a professional and check a lot of facts :-) Cochrane has also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '17 - Scholarships, Registration, Submissions

2017-05-17 Thread Ellie Young
For the past several years anyone who gets a scholarship has to agree to the release of their user name in their acceptance of the award. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja < pavan...@vishvakannada.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Long back when I asked for list of scholarship awardees,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I love it, although I suspect that 1B wouldn't be enough. The industry of for-profit academic publishing is probably worth much more than that, and it won't give up easily. Not that I don't support the general idea, but the resistance will be hard. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Jane Darnell
I am pretty sure we already have the Bible translated in all the languages (don't know because I didn't check). You inspired me though to think about the benefits of interlinking it down to the word level and how that might benefit Wikidata in achieving a level playing field in basic terminology

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Jane Darnell
I saw a very interesting documentary about a South American country (Brazil? Argentina?) where they were already ignoring Western copyright law in order to free up collaboration in science. I have no idea what the legal repercussions are of doing something like that and from what I have seen on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
(I'm not sure I was understood correctly... I didn't mean translating the Bible to yet more languages, but translating an encyclopedia to more languages.) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Jane Darnell
That is an interesting idea! Maybe we should be working on modelling the Bible better on Wikidata and cross-referencing it to dictionaries and all other religious texts. If it is so important for literacy, it may help unite efforts on labelling in Wikidata. I have no idea how many words are used

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Board WMNL

2017-05-17 Thread Samuele Mantani
Congratulations to the new board. User:Samuele2002 Il 16/Mag/2017 01:16 PM, "Frans Grijzenhout" ha scritto: > Dear all, > > Wikimedia Netherlands had its AGM on April 22. During this meeting the > annual Report 2016 was approved and a new Board was elected. > On May 13 the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Board WMNL

2017-05-17 Thread NC Hasive
Congratulations to the new board. Hasive WMBD On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:54 AM, Pierre-Selim wrote: > Congratulation to the new board (reelected members and new ones). > > Sincerely, > > Le 16 mai 2017 23:48, "Tim Moritz Hector" > a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
With that amount of money, we could probably put an end on closed science in less than a decade, and make open access and open science the new standard. There's already a lot of efforts going on, but incumbent publishers are much more rich and resourceful. Lobbying, advocacy, outreach could do a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Heh, I remember Mr Wales asking what could the movement do with a million dollars some time around 2006. Is anything on the horizon? What could we do? Many things; one of them would be to get our act together and become a true leader in software and content localization. Currently we are proud

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread FRED BAUDER
I think we could hire professional fact checkers and target articles that have gotten off track. I don't think a great deal of money would be necessary to set an example, and illustrate some of our notorious problems. In general more money, however, draws flies even better than shit. Fred

[Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? Do we have the guts to do so? Do we have the organizational capital to handle it? Or can we get there soon? Do we have the moral right to take a lead in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Widespread perfomance issues

2017-05-17 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi Rogol, On 16/05/2017 15:44, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > This was a small outage, affecting only a small portion of European > traffic (and tiny portion of our global traffic) and not what we'd call > a "widespread" one -- very far from it. +1 I think I have to apologize to the Operations team

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '17 - Scholarships, Registration, Submissions

2017-05-17 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Hi Dr Pavanaja, Back in April you asked for a list of scholarship applicants and people explained why we only publicise the list of people who are awarded a grant, not the people whose applications are declined. The list of people awarded a grant has been published, your request for a list of