Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Deutschland: Annual Report 2016

Does "15,000 new members to the organization" mean that everyone who edits DE WP is a member? If so that is amazing :-) James On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Anna Stillwell wrote: > Thank you. Well done. 15,000 new members to the organization? > I'd love to talk with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

It search result only contains a snippet (and thus is fair use). Plus Google provide attribution in a lot of their results. J On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:03 PM, geni wrote: > On 5 June 2017 at 18:32, The Cunctator wrote: > > Both Google and Graphiq are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

On 06/06/2017 01:34, MZMcBride wrote: > And Faidon posted in November 2014 about the establishment of a Tor relay: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-November/079392.html Thanks for the pointer, I did know that the WMF was operating a Tor relay but I didn't recall where to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

By the way a certain degree of accountability is needed. There cannot be any privacy for "wikingers" or people bringing cyberbulling to wiki. Vito 2017-06-06 2:10 GMT+02:00 Risker : > As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the past by actual Tor > users), there is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the past by actual Tor users), there is no problem whatsoever for Tor users to read Wikipedia while using Tor. Editing is a completely different situation - and well it should be, given the pure unadulterated trash that tends to come in whenever a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Cristian Consonni wrote: >I have read several discussions on the topic (going back to 2006) and >what I have understood from those is that the biggest issue with editing >via Tor is sockpuppeting. This Phabricator comment you found seems pretty useful:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Deutschland: Annual Report 2016

Thank you. Well done. 15,000 new members to the organization? I'd love to talk with you about this, Nicole. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Samuel Patton wrote: > I agree, the report is great and the videos are inspiring. Thanks for > sharing! > > sam > > On Fri, Jun 2,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

On 05/06/2017 22:19, Todd Allen wrote: > With the recent ruling about ISPs being allowed to collect and sell user > data in the US, we're at "highly exceptional circumstances". Good Internet > citizens allow anonymous participation. We can soft block them, but surely > we can revert vandals and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

I agree that sockpuppets are a real problem, but they manage fine right now without going through Tor. There are quite a few ways to connect up using different IPs as it is now, so the real problem remains: the sockpuppeteers themselves. Gabe On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Cristian Consonni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

On 05/06/2017 19:43, David Gerard wrote: > Editing may be a tricky one, particularly on en:wp, which has found > Tor exit points to overwhelmingly be fountains of garbage, and > automatically blocks them. On 05/06/2017 19:47, John wrote: > enabling read access via Tor shouldn't be an issue,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

With the recent ruling about ISPs being allowed to collect and sell user data in the US, we're at "highly exceptional circumstances". Good Internet citizens allow anonymous participation. We can soft block them, but surely we can revert vandals and block their accounts. If we can't even manage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Nope. Tor users needs `ip block exempt` or `global ip block exempt` to edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption seem to say so too. ("In highly exceptional circumstances, an editor may be permitted to edit anonymously, via Tor or another anonymizing proxy.") -- Yongmin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

On 5 June 2017 at 18:32, The Cunctator wrote: > Both Google and Graphiq are using pretty much the entire Wikipedia corpus > for their results. However due to the way their output is structured it falls under "you can't copyright facts". -- geni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Im not going to violate BEANS, but even allowing accounts to edit without further hurdles isn't going to work. Because of the anonymity that tor provides its fairly easy to cause widespread issues. When the vandals start actually using tactics the flood gates of TOR will cause massive issues cross

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Im not going to violate BEANS, but even allowing accounts to edit without further hurdles isn't going to work. Because of the anonymity that tor provides its fairly easy to cause widespread issues. When the vandals start actually using tactics the flood gates of TOR will cause massive issues cross

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

I imagine registered users could edit through TOR. That is how it works with my school IP: anonymous edits are blocked, account creation as well, but you can sign in an edit. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 7:47 PM, John wrote: > enabling read access via Tor shouldn't be an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

enabling read access via Tor shouldn't be an issue, however editing should not be allowed due to high volume of known abuse from that vector. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:43 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Editing may be a tricky one, particularly on en:wp, which has found > Tor exit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Editing may be a tricky one, particularly on en:wp, which has found Tor exit points to overwhelmingly be fountains of garbage, and automatically blocks them. - d. On 5 June 2017 at 18:30, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > I think that's an excellent idea and very much aligned

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

Hoi, Yes, probably and in the process they do exactly what we aim to achieve; share in the sum of all knowledge. What they do not do is claim copyright. They are the number one referral site for our traffic. You may be right in a narrow sense but it will ill serve us to do something about it.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

Both Google and Graphiq are using pretty much the entire Wikipedia corpus for their results. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:40 PM, James Heilman wrote: > Well "fair use" applies, but if the amount of content used goes beyond fair > use than it needs to be indicated that the content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

I think that's an excellent idea and very much aligned with our commitment to provide free information also for those who are living under unfavorable conditions. I personally endorse it. Thanks Cristian for suggesting it. Regards, Micru On Jun 5, 2017 19:11, "Cristian Consonni"

[Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Hi, I have written a proposal about setting up an onion (hidden) service to serve Wikipedia over Tor: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/A_Tor_Onion_Service_for_Wikipedia I was thinking about this and I also discovered that the Internet Archive is experimenting with a very similar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

Well "fair use" applies, but if the amount of content used goes beyond fair use than it needs to be indicated that the content is under an open license. J On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, The Cunctator wrote: > I've been a bit out of the loop on this for a while, so please

[Wikimedia-l] Copyright enforcement?

I've been a bit out of the loop on this for a while, so please be kind to the oldbie - what's current Wikimedia policy on adaptive reuse of Wikipedia content into non-free publications? E.g. Graphiq https://www.graphiq.com/terms-and-conditions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WFM 91.7 FM becomes our broadcasting partner in Nigeria

Congratulations. :) /a On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:26 PM, shola ishola wrote: > > Dear wikipedians, > > We are delighted to announce that we have reached agreement with the above > named prestigious broadcasting station to partner with us in reaching > further audience in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

Agree. Just under two years ago, I thought Katherine would make an excellent ED. And she has not disappointed. James On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > with the right leader, things suddenly start to click just right :) > > dj > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017