Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Emeric VALLESPI
One must have the courage of one's words and assume them. There is a very simple way of knowing who is lying: can Sylvain publish the letter in question? I will be really interested to see when he was punished for "having a girlfriend". Furthermore, I can't agree more with Craig and as I said,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Craig Franklin
Can I suggest to all parties that, as was the case last time this came up here, raking this conflict over the coals here on a mailing list where very few of us have direct knowledge of the situation, or the power to do anything about it in any case, is probably not helpful for anyone? I am

[Wikimedia-l] Experimental onion service for all Wikimedia projects set up by Alec Muffett

2017-11-23 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi all, Some months ago, the idea of setting up an onion service for Wikimedia projects was discussed on this list[1] and as a proposal in IdeaLab on Meta[2]. Today, Alec Muffett announced on Twitter[3] that he created «as an experiment» a series of read-only mirrors of all the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Xavier Combelle
Emeric, When you say, that no sanction has filed his HR record, you are half or completely lying. The existence of a "rappel à l'ordre" (warning) is an argument which can support fire someone of the staff so it should be in a HR record. In the same way Sylvain never said he is writing his email

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Alphos OGame
Good evening Émeric, good evening all. Allow me to reply. Oh wait, that's right, I don't need you to allow the publication of emails on this mailing list - this sure comes as a change, and a welcome one too ! I won't be speaking of any member of the community, whether volunteer or employee, it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Gabriel Thullen
Dear Sylvain, Thank you for your message and thank you for showing us that our Wikimedia employees are white collar workers, and as such they also have the right to be part of an organized labor movement. For those who do not know me well, I am a board member of the Geneva public sector labor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On Nov 23, 2017 2:55 PM, "Emeric Vallespi" wrote: the Wikimedia community protect itself and its members by harassing and defaming people who question I cannot imagine why anyone would attempt to defame you, when they cannot hope to surpass the eloquence and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

2017-11-23 Thread Emeric Vallespi
Sylvain, I have to answer to your email where you’re especially lying. You say that you’re writing on behalf of a union section of the employees of Wikimedia France but I’m personally curious to know the weight of this union section. My question is actually: who else is represented by your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] non-technical community wish: Invitational essay authorship contest

2017-11-23 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Saluton, To my mind, this whole discussion doesn't make any sense as it is all grounded on suspect hypotheses. First, what do you call an essay? I think that for such a work the author must instill selfness in it. As say Montaigne