Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread Vi to
You surely saw the same dudes who sold anything as "Internet of things" a
couple of years ago selling the same black boxes as "blockchain" now. I
expect these black boxes to be labeled as "enhanced by artificial
intelligence" by mid 2019 :D

Vito

2018-04-27 20:05 GMT+02:00 David Gerard :

> On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni  wrote:
>
> > Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
> > downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is
> > useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual
> > conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
>
>
> seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about
> it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
>
> Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you
> permission to download this copy:
>
> http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
>
> (like I could stop anyone anyway)
>
> tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly
> damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively
> terrible rubbish.
>
>
> - d.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread David Gerard
Wrote up the story so far:

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2018/04/27/no-wikipedia-is-not-partnering-with-the-request-network-dont-believe-the-hype/

Any new stuff, corrections, clarifications etc most welcomed!


- d.

On 27 April 2018 at 21:04, David Gerard  wrote:

> TrustNodes tested out Request's donation offering:
>
> https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/04/27/request-network-
> partners-wikimedia-launching-beta-plus-test-run-review-
> digital-codable-invoices
>
> tl;dr it's incredibly clunky, painful and disappointing and largely
> doesn't work. Also, it only offers Ethereum.
>
> On a related note, I notice the WMF Bitcoin gateway currently uses
> Coinbase's merchant option to accept cryptos and then pay the charity
> on dollars (so WMF never touches a crypto). Coinbase are deprecating
> this shortly, going to a model where the merchant has an account on
> Coinbase and cashing out is their own problem. What will happen to the
> WMF bitcoin option?
> https://medium.com/@coinbasecommerce/upgrading-the-merchant-experience-
> d97679274c71
>
> (I'm just writing up this terrible story for my blockchain blog.)
>
>
> - d.
>
>
>
> On 27 April 2018 at 19:05, David Gerard  wrote:
> > On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni  wrote:
> >
> >> Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
> >> downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is
> >> useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual
> >> conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
> >
> >
> > seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about
> > it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
> >
> > Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you
> > permission to download this copy:
> >
> > http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
> >
> > (like I could stop anyone anyway)
> >
> > tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly
> > damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively
> > terrible rubbish.
> >
> >
> > - d.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread David Gerard
TrustNodes tested out Request's donation offering:

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/04/27/request-network-partners-wikimedia-launching-beta-plus-test-run-review-digital-codable-invoices

tl;dr it's incredibly clunky, painful and disappointing and largely
doesn't work. Also, it only offers Ethereum.

On a related note, I notice the WMF Bitcoin gateway currently uses
Coinbase's merchant option to accept cryptos and then pay the charity
on dollars (so WMF never touches a crypto). Coinbase are deprecating
this shortly, going to a model where the merchant has an account on
Coinbase and cashing out is their own problem. What will happen to the
WMF bitcoin option?
https://medium.com/@coinbasecommerce/upgrading-the-merchant-experience-d97679274c71

(I'm just writing up this terrible story for my blockchain blog.)


- d.



On 27 April 2018 at 19:05, David Gerard  wrote:
> On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni  wrote:
>
>> Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
>> downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is
>> useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual
>> conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
>
>
> seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about
> it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
>
> Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you
> permission to download this copy:
>
> http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
>
> (like I could stop anyone anyway)
>
> tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly
> damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively
> terrible rubbish.
>
>
> - d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni  wrote:

> Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
> downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is
> useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual
> conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.


seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about
it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.

Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you
permission to download this copy:

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17

(like I could stop anyone anyway)

tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly
damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively
terrible rubbish.


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Devouard (gmail)

Le 27/04/2018 à 17:34, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit :

Try looking at the story of the "Daily Mail ban" in the English Wikipedia.
Daily Mail is not really fake news (it's just sensationalist, biased, and
not that useful), and the ban is not hermetic, but that is much closer to
the topic of fake news than hoaxes. The discussions around the "ban", and
how it is actually enacted (or not) may say something interesting about
Wikipedia's relationship with media.

Try to find other examples of such bans of bad sources. Some of them will
probably be true fake news sources. It will be especially cool if you can
find examples from different languages and not only English and French.

Looking at spam black lists and the talk pages associated with them may
also be very revealing. Despite the title, it's not just for spam in the
sense of repetitive digital advertising, but for all unwanted URLs. The
lists definitely have sites for pornography and white supremacy, and
although I can't recall an example (and I'm now writing from my phone and
can't check conveniently), they probably have a lot of fake news sites.

If you find anything interesting, please share it with us! :)


For sure :)

Flo




בתאריך יום ו׳, 27 באפר׳ 2018, 17:27, מאת Devouard (gmail) ‏<
fdevou...@gmail.com>:


Hi

I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake news
and to focus on very specific examples rather than general concepts. I
already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly interesting
cases or discussions will be welcome.

Thanks for your help.

Florence

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread James Salsman
>> It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for
>> transparency purposes.
>...
> Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
> downloadable database

Less efficient unless a government authority is attempting to censor.

After advocating all this year for the Turkish Wikipedia on IPFS, I
very recently learned that it has been a success for a year now:

https://ipfs.io/blog/24-uncensorable-wikipedia/

http://observer.com/2017/05/turkey-wikipedia-ipfs/

So I propose that we use IPFS for any project that is at risk of
government censorship.

Best regards,
Jim

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread geni
On 27 April 2018 at 16:42, Romaine Wiki  wrote:
> It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for
> transparency purposes.
>
> Romaine


Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a
downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is
useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual
conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread Romaine Wiki
We in Belgium received a mail with a question if we want to work together
with a blockchain organisation. For us to develop that it is too much work,
and we suggested them to contact WMF to develop a system we could easily
adopt ourselves.

It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for
transparency purposes.

Romaine


Op vrijdag 27 april 2018 heeft Victoria Coleman 
het volgende geschreven:

> Yes, the platform claim is far from accurate.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Victoria
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:27 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
> >
> > While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning
> >
> > "the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely
> > integrating blockchain technology on its platform"
> >
> > Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Definitly confusing.
> >>
> >> See also this : https://blog.request.network/r
> >> equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-
> >> with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
> >>
> >>
> >> Florence
> >>
> >>> Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
> >>> something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
> >>> Also this article here
> >>>
> >>> https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce
> >>> -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-
> >>> crypto-monnaies/
> >>>
> >>> Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
> >>> can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
> >>>
> >>> What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
> >>> partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
> >>> wikimedia france:
> >>>
> >>> https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
> >>>
> >>> Is some form of clarification possible?
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Try looking at the story of the "Daily Mail ban" in the English Wikipedia.
Daily Mail is not really fake news (it's just sensationalist, biased, and
not that useful), and the ban is not hermetic, but that is much closer to
the topic of fake news than hoaxes. The discussions around the "ban", and
how it is actually enacted (or not) may say something interesting about
Wikipedia's relationship with media.

Try to find other examples of such bans of bad sources. Some of them will
probably be true fake news sources. It will be especially cool if you can
find examples from different languages and not only English and French.

Looking at spam black lists and the talk pages associated with them may
also be very revealing. Despite the title, it's not just for spam in the
sense of repetitive digital advertising, but for all unwanted URLs. The
lists definitely have sites for pornography and white supremacy, and
although I can't recall an example (and I'm now writing from my phone and
can't check conveniently), they probably have a lot of fake news sites.

If you find anything interesting, please share it with us! :)

בתאריך יום ו׳, 27 באפר׳ 2018, 17:27, מאת Devouard (gmail) ‏<
fdevou...@gmail.com>:

> Hi
>
> I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake news
> and to focus on very specific examples rather than general concepts. I
> already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly interesting
> cases or discussions will be welcome.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Florence
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
There are topics where generally there is a lot of POV pushing (not
necessarily fake news, just people adding unreferenced or poorly referenced
POV material), for example see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Crimea

which contains a lot of both pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian pushing.
However, when it aggravates, it is easily stopped by applying a protection.
There are few administrators watching these topics (I used to be one of
them), but the protection requests rarely get rejected if the disruption is
ongoing.

An example of more difficult situation is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence_referendum,_2017

where two groups of editors, pro-independence and anti-independence, are
operating with two groups of sources (Catalan and Spanish central
government) which often contradict each other. Most of the editors seem to
be good-faith, but at the talk page they do not seem to be able to agree
with each other, and the article generally can not be trusted. I am afraid
the community does not have any capacity to go into details of the sources
and to mediate the conflict.

And articles like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe

can contain all kind of bullshit, nobody cares. I do  not think we
currently have enough bandwidth to clean all these articles up, and the POV
pushers know this.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Devouard (gmail) 
wrote:

> Thanks for the first answers, both online and private.
> (the WikiData one is good and the List of Hoax should come handy.
> I also got an excellent suggestion with a recent research :
> http://wikiworkshop.org/2018/papers/wikiworkshop2018_paper_1.pdf)
>
> Let me be more specific... I am in particular interested in cases where it
> involves systematic actions involving automated systems or very large (and
> rich) networks against which the community would have difficulties to deal
> with.
>
> For example, the issue with BDB and binary options.
>
> Flo
>
>
> Le 27/04/2018 à 16:39, Yaroslav Blanter a écrit :
>
>> Hi Florence,
>>
>> this page might help:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia
>>
>> It is of course very different to create a complete hoax on Wikipedia on a
>> topic which is heavily watched. It is much easier to create a hoax on an
>> obscure subject very few people know about, then it has a chance to stay
>> undiscovered for a long time.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Yaroslav
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Devouard (gmail) 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake news
>>> and to focus on very specific examples rather than general concepts. I
>>> already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly interesting
>>> cases
>>> or discussions will be welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Florence
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread Victoria Coleman
Yes, the platform claim is far from accurate.

Best regards,

Victoria

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:27 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
> 
> While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning
> 
> "the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely
> integrating blockchain technology on its platform"
> 
> Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.
> 
> James
> 
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) 
> wrote:
> 
>> Definitly confusing.
>> 
>> See also this : https://blog.request.network/r
>> equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-
>> with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
>> 
>> 
>> Florence
>> 
>>> Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
>>> 
>>> According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
>>> something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
>>> Also this article here
>>> 
>>> https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce
>>> -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-
>>> crypto-monnaies/
>>> 
>>> Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
>>> can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
>>> 
>>> What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
>>> partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
>>> wikimedia france:
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
>>> 
>>> Is some form of clarification possible?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Devouard (gmail)

Thanks for the first answers, both online and private.
(the WikiData one is good and the List of Hoax should come handy.
I also got an excellent suggestion with a recent research : 
http://wikiworkshop.org/2018/papers/wikiworkshop2018_paper_1.pdf)


Let me be more specific... I am in particular interested in cases where 
it involves systematic actions involving automated systems or very large 
(and rich) networks against which the community would have difficulties 
to deal with.


For example, the issue with BDB and binary options.

Flo

Le 27/04/2018 à 16:39, Yaroslav Blanter a écrit :

Hi Florence,

this page might help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia

It is of course very different to create a complete hoax on Wikipedia on a
topic which is heavily watched. It is much easier to create a hoax on an
obscure subject very few people know about, then it has a chance to stay
undiscovered for a long time.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Devouard (gmail) 
wrote:


Hi

I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake news
and to focus on very specific examples rather than general concepts. I
already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly interesting cases
or discussions will be welcome.

Thanks for your help.

Florence

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread James Heilman
This also needs correcting
https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58

Also I am not sure use of the Wikipedia logo is appropriate as it is not an
partnership with Wikipedia.

James

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Sorry it's a mistake, the partnership is with WMFr. We will correct that
> tweet.
>
> Pyb
>
> Le ven. 27 avr. 2018 à 15:49, geni  a écrit :
>
> > According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
> > something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
> > Also this article here
> >
> >
> > https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-
> annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-
> donations-crypto-monnaies/
> >
> > Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
> > can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
> >
> > What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
> > partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
> > wikimedia france:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
> >
> > Is some form of clarification possible?
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Florence,

this page might help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia

It is of course very different to create a complete hoax on Wikipedia on a
topic which is heavily watched. It is much easier to create a hoax on an
obscure subject very few people know about, then it has a chance to stay
undiscovered for a long time.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Devouard (gmail) 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake news
> and to focus on very specific examples rather than general concepts. I
> already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly interesting cases
> or discussions will be welcome.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Florence
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread Pierre-Yves Beaudouin
Sorry it's a mistake, the partnership is with WMFr. We will correct that
tweet.

Pyb

Le ven. 27 avr. 2018 à 15:49, geni  a écrit :

> According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
> something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
> Also this article here
>
>
> https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-crypto-monnaies/
>
> Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
> can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
>
> What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
> partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
> wikimedia france:
>
> https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
>
> Is some form of clarification possible?
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Anders Wennersten
We have the latest propaganda issue from Russia (gazprom and a troll 
company), that has been accepted in around 50 wikipedia versions. I see 
this not only as propaganda but also fake news


https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19960532

Anders


Den 2018-04-27 kl. 16:26, skrev Devouard (gmail):

Hi

I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake 
news and to focus on very specific examples rather than general 
concepts. I already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly 
interesting cases or discussions will be welcome.


Thanks for your help.

Florence

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread James Heilman
While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning

"the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely
integrating blockchain technology on its platform"

Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.

James

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) 
wrote:

> Definitly confusing.
>
> See also this : https://blog.request.network/r
> equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-
> with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
>
>
> Florence
>
> Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
>
>> According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
>> something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
>> Also this article here
>>
>> https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce
>> -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-
>> crypto-monnaies/
>>
>> Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
>> can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
>>
>> What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
>> partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
>> wikimedia france:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
>>
>> Is some form of clarification possible?
>>
>>
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[Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Devouard (gmail)

Hi

I have been proposed to give a conference about wikipedia and fake news 
and to focus on very specific examples rather than general concepts. I 
already have a few ideas but any pointers to particularly interesting 
cases or discussions will be welcome.


Thanks for your help.

Florence

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread Devouard (gmail)

Definitly confusing.

See also this : 
https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58



Florence

Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :

According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
Also this article here

https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-crypto-monnaies/

Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.

What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
wikimedia france:

https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en

Is some form of clarification possible?




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[Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

2018-04-27 Thread geni
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
Also this article here

https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-crypto-monnaies/

Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.

What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
wikimedia france:

https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en

Is some form of clarification possible?

-- 
geni

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