Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation website has soft launched!

2018-08-10 Thread Nathan
Mike, the "soft" part of the launch is that it is available only in
English, has not been heavily promoted and every link and reference
elsewhere has not been transitioned. This info was in Gregory's initial
post about the soft launch on the 1st.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:50 PM Michael Peel  wrote:

> Huh? it’s already been live at https://wikimediafoundation.org/ for the
> last week or so - that’s not a “soft launch”, that’s a full launch (maybe
> without the trimmings).
>
> Should I repost the comments/bug reports I sent to wmfcc-l last week more
> publicly?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> > On 10 Aug 2018, at 22:34, Gregory Varnum  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you to everyone that has sent in productive feedback and bug
> reports! In the interest of having this conversation more transparently and
> succinctly, we have answered a number of questions on the talk page of the
> Meta-Wiki page for this site:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_website
> >
> > We will continue to monitor feedback, address bugs during soft launch,
> and let you know when the translations are in place and we are ready for
> the full launch of the site.
> >
> > Again, thank you all for your patience during the soft launch of this
> site.
> >
> > -greg
> >
> > ---
> > Gregory Varnum
> > Communications Strategist
> > Wikimedia Foundation 
> > gvar...@wikimedia.org
> > Pronouns: He/Him/His
> >
> >> On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:28 AM, attolippip  wrote:
> >>
> >> It also does not seem to work correctly on mobile (android):
> >>
> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMFnewsiteonandroidmobile.png
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> antanana
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 17:47 Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 8 August 2018 at 15:23, Shabab Mustafa 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site
> properly.
> >>>
> >>> This is how it appears for me, in Firefox (current version) with
> >>> AdBlockPlus enabled:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_-_2018-08-08_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_blog.png
> >>>
> >>> AdBlockPlus is reportedly active on 100 million devices.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andy Mabbett
> >>> @pigsonthewing
> >>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Research Showcase August 13 2018 at 11:30 AM (PDT) 18:30 UTC

2018-08-10 Thread Sarah R
 Hi All,

In my haste, I put the wrong weekday on this email. The showcase will be on
Monday this month, not Wednesday.

Kindly,


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:46 PM Sarah R  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> The next Wikimedia Research Showcase will be live-streamed Wednesday,
> August 13 2018 at 11:30 AM (PDT) 18:30 UTC.
>
> YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPMS4YGDMk
>
> As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research.
> And, you can watch our past research showcases here.
> 
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> This month's presentations is:
>
> *Quicksilver: Training an ML system to generate draft Wikipedia articles
> and Wikidata entries simultaneously*
>
> John Bohannon and Vedant Dharnidharka, Primer
>
> The automatic generation and updating of Wikipedia articles is usually
> approached as a multi-document summarization task: Given a set of source
> documents containing information about an entity, summarize the entity.
> Purely sequence-to-sequence neural models can pull that off, but getting
> enough data to train them is a challenge. Wikipedia articles and their
> reference documents can be used for training, as was recently done
>  by a team at Google AI. But how do you
> find new source documents for new entities? And besides having humans read
> all of the source documents, how do you fact-check the output? What is
> needed is a self-updating knowledge base that learns jointly with a
> summarization model, keeping track of data provenance. Lucky for us, the
> world’s most comprehensive public encyclopedia is tightly coupled with
> Wikidata, the world’s most comprehensive public knowledge base. We have
> built a system called Quicksilver uses them both.
>
>
>

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation website has soft launched!

2018-08-10 Thread Michael Peel
Huh? it’s already been live at https://wikimediafoundation.org/ for the last 
week or so - that’s not a “soft launch”, that’s a full launch (maybe without 
the trimmings).

Should I repost the comments/bug reports I sent to wmfcc-l last week more 
publicly?

Thanks,
Mike

> On 10 Aug 2018, at 22:34, Gregory Varnum  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thank you to everyone that has sent in productive feedback and bug reports! 
> In the interest of having this conversation more transparently and 
> succinctly, we have answered a number of questions on the talk page of the 
> Meta-Wiki page for this site:  
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_website
> 
> We will continue to monitor feedback, address bugs during soft launch, and 
> let you know when the translations are in place and we are ready for the full 
> launch of the site.
> 
> Again, thank you all for your patience during the soft launch of this site.
> 
> -greg
> 
> ---
> Gregory Varnum
> Communications Strategist
> Wikimedia Foundation 
> gvar...@wikimedia.org
> Pronouns: He/Him/His
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:28 AM, attolippip  wrote:
>> 
>> It also does not seem to work correctly on mobile (android):
>> 
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMFnewsiteonandroidmobile.png
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> antanana
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 17:47 Andy Mabbett  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8 August 2018 at 15:23, Shabab Mustafa 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.
>>> 
>>> This is how it appears for me, in Firefox (current version) with
>>> AdBlockPlus enabled:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_-_2018-08-08_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_blog.png
>>> 
>>> AdBlockPlus is reportedly active on 100 million devices.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Andy Mabbett
>>> @pigsonthewing
>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation website has soft launched!

2018-08-10 Thread Gregory Varnum
Hello,

Thank you to everyone that has sent in productive feedback and bug reports! In 
the interest of having this conversation more transparently and succinctly, we 
have answered a number of questions on the talk page of the Meta-Wiki page for 
this site:  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_website

We will continue to monitor feedback, address bugs during soft launch, and let 
you know when the translations are in place and we are ready for the full 
launch of the site.

Again, thank you all for your patience during the soft launch of this site.

-greg

---
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Pronouns: He/Him/His

> On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:28 AM, attolippip  wrote:
> 
> It also does not seem to work correctly on mobile (android):
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMFnewsiteonandroidmobile.png
> 
> Best regards,
> antanana
> 
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 17:47 Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> 
>> On 8 August 2018 at 15:23, Shabab Mustafa 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.
>> 
>> This is how it appears for me, in Firefox (current version) with
>> AdBlockPlus enabled:
>> 
>> 
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_-_2018-08-08_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_blog.png
>> 
>> AdBlockPlus is reportedly active on 100 million devices.
>> 
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>> 
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Research Showcase August 13 2018 at 11:30 AM (PDT) 18:30 UTC

2018-08-10 Thread Sarah R
Hi Everyone,

The next Wikimedia Research Showcase will be live-streamed Wednesday,
August 13 2018 at 11:30 AM (PDT) 18:30 UTC.

YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPMS4YGDMk

As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. And,
you can watch our past research showcases here.


Hope to see you there!

This month's presentations is:

*Quicksilver: Training an ML system to generate draft Wikipedia articles
and Wikidata entries simultaneously*

John Bohannon and Vedant Dharnidharka, Primer

The automatic generation and updating of Wikipedia articles is usually
approached as a multi-document summarization task: Given a set of source
documents containing information about an entity, summarize the entity.
Purely sequence-to-sequence neural models can pull that off, but getting
enough data to train them is a challenge. Wikipedia articles and their
reference documents can be used for training, as was recently done
 by a team at Google AI. But how do you
find new source documents for new entities? And besides having humans read
all of the source documents, how do you fact-check the output? What is
needed is a self-updating knowledge base that learns jointly with a
summarization model, keeping track of data provenance. Lucky for us, the
world’s most comprehensive public encyclopedia is tightly coupled with
Wikidata, the world’s most comprehensive public knowledge base. We have
built a system called Quicksilver uses them both.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help need

2018-08-10 Thread WМ RepublikaSrpska
Hello James!
I just tried to upload photo. Everything is fine. Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Bojana


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пет, 10. авг 2018. у 23:58 James Forrester  је
написао/ла:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 11:31 WМ RepublikaSrpska <
> wmrepublikasrp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In Republic of Srpska there is a photo-competition Trace of Soul 2018
> > 
> (WLE+WLM)
> > in
> > progress. Yesterday and today we receive a few e-mails from competitors -
> > they complained that they have a problem with photo upload. We have
> tested,
> > and in third step, after release rights a page got "freezed". Does anyone
> > know what is the problem? We really need help. Thanks!
> >
>
> I'm sorry that you and those competitors ran into this issue. I've just
> pushed out a fix for this as an emergency patch, which seems from my
> testing to make everything work. Thanks for highlighting the bug (recorded
> on Phabricator  for the
> curious), and our apologies again.
>
> James
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help need

2018-08-10 Thread James Forrester
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 11:31 WМ RepublikaSrpska 
wrote:

> In Republic of Srpska there is a photo-competition Trace of Soul 2018
>  (WLE+WLM)
> in
> progress. Yesterday and today we receive a few e-mails from competitors -
> they complained that they have a problem with photo upload. We have tested,
> and in third step, after release rights a page got "freezed". Does anyone
> know what is the problem? We really need help. Thanks!
>

I'm sorry that you and those competitors ran into this issue. I've just
pushed out a fix for this as an emergency patch, which seems from my
testing to make everything work. Thanks for highlighting the bug (recorded
on Phabricator  for the
curious), and our apologies again.

James
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help need

2018-08-10 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Bojana - a quick note that we have received this message and are looking
into the issue. We’ll follow up directly to your email address.

-Toby

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:31 WМ RepublikaSrpska <
wmrepublikasrp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> In Republic of Srpska there is a photo-competition Trace of Soul 2018
>  (WLE+WLM)
> in
> progress. Yesterday and today we receive a few e-mails from competitors -
> they complained that they have a problem with photo upload. We have tested,
> and in third step, after release rights a page got "freezed". Does anyone
> know what is the problem? We really need help. Thanks!
>
> Bojana Podgorica
>
>
> *Замислите свет у коме свака особа на планети има слободан приступ
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[Wikimedia-l] Help need

2018-08-10 Thread WМ RepublikaSrpska
Hello All,

In Republic of Srpska there is a photo-competition Trace of Soul 2018
 (WLE+WLM) in
progress. Yesterday and today we receive a few e-mails from competitors -
they complained that they have a problem with photo upload. We have tested,
and in third step, after release rights a page got "freezed". Does anyone
know what is the problem? We really need help. Thanks!

Bojana Podgorica


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-10 Thread Sylvain Boissel
Hello,

2018-08-10 11:19 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil :

> Mathieu, thank you for your research and for connecting so many dots.
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz <
> psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:
>
> > Although Mastodon doesn't seem to be what I was looking for at start, I
> do
> > think it would be great to launch a Wikimedia instance and completely in
> > phase with the aim of becoming an essential infrastructure of the
> ecosystem
> > of free knowledge. So let me know if I can help in any way on this
> regard.
> > :)
> >
> In my professional role, I think it is worth considering the idea of
> approaching Wikimedia to the Fediverse as part of
>
> > Knowledge as a service: To serve our users, we will become a platform
> that serves open knowledge to the world across interfaces and communities.
> > We will build tools for allies and partners to organize and exchange free
> knowledge beyond Wikimedia.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction
>
> In fact, I have started some very casual conversations about these ideas
> (equivalent to chats by the coffee machine, except that I'm remote and I
> don't drink coffee), partially motivated by this thread.
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198363 is a good umbrella task. If
> someone wants to develop the idea of creating a Wikimedia instance in the
> Fediverse (official or not), then that would deserve its own discussion.
> Where to start this discussion? IdeaLab? Maybe it doesn't matter as long as
> we have one place well advertised.
>
> There are at least three aspects to consider:
>
> * Technical: Creating i.e. a Mastodon instance somewhere is technically
> simple, running that instance in Wikimedia production servers is another
> story. While there is no need to start with a service in production, it is
> useful to consider the scenario early on.
>

It may have changed since I last checked (a bit more than a year ago), but
while it is easy to create an instance, migrating an account to another
instance, or moving an entire instance to a new domain is not (I couldn't
even find documentation on how to accomplish this. So if we start an
instance that is supposed to become an official one, we need at the very
least have the final domain name from the start. Depending on the one we
want, we still might need official support (e.g., anyone can register
wikimedians.social, but wikimedia.social is restricted to the WMF by a DPML
Block.)



>
> * Legal: Aiming for an official Wikimedia instance has implications of
> trademarks, legal requirements, and so on. While there is no need to start
> with an official instance, it is useful to consider the scenario early on.
>
Do you know what these requirements are? Are some issues unsolvable (for
example, if an official Wikimedia instance implies that no movie-based gifs
can be posted (for copyright reasons), then this instance has basically no
chance to gain a large user base. While this may not be a problem (a small
instance with a small number of accounts posting things like
#pictureOfTheDay to the whole Fediverse would still be valuable), this
would change the scope of what we try to accomplish.


>
> * Social: While creating an instance would be simple, having a critical
> mass of Wikimedians aware of it and using it regularly is not. There is no
> lack of brilliant ideas that failed because the people didn't follow. And
> here you would be fighting against resistance to change e.g. from those
> believing that Wikimedians should focus on wikis only, from Wikimedians
> well invested in corporate social networks (Facebook, Twitter, etc) and of
> course with everyone being "too busy to join another channel". Whoever
> drives this initiative must be ready to work hard explaining, promoting,
> supporting...
>

In April 2017 when the Mastodon hype wave hit France, I had several people
asking me if WMFr would create a Mastodon instance, so I'm not particularly
worried about that (If we had created the instance back then, there would
have several dozens of users creating their account). We may have lost that
momentum, but OTOH the fact that the Fediverse is still very active is a
good proof of resilience. And then again, even if there is not a critical
mass joining the instance, as it would interact with the Fediverse, this
does not mean that the few users there would be shouting in the void.



On a more personal note: I don't have enough time to lead this initiative
myself, but I would happily give help with administrating the instance, or
"explaining, promoting, supporting" it.

Cheers,
Sylvain

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
Mathieu, thank you for your research and for connecting so many dots.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Although Mastodon doesn't seem to be what I was looking for at start, I do
> think it would be great to launch a Wikimedia instance and completely in
> phase with the aim of becoming an essential infrastructure of the ecosystem
> of free knowledge. So let me know if I can help in any way on this regard.
> :)
>
In my professional role, I think it is worth considering the idea of
approaching Wikimedia to the Fediverse as part of

> Knowledge as a service: To serve our users, we will become a platform
that serves open knowledge to the world across interfaces and communities.
> We will build tools for allies and partners to organize and exchange free
knowledge beyond Wikimedia.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction

In fact, I have started some very casual conversations about these ideas
(equivalent to chats by the coffee machine, except that I'm remote and I
don't drink coffee), partially motivated by this thread.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198363 is a good umbrella task. If
someone wants to develop the idea of creating a Wikimedia instance in the
Fediverse (official or not), then that would deserve its own discussion.
Where to start this discussion? IdeaLab? Maybe it doesn't matter as long as
we have one place well advertised.

There are at least three aspects to consider:

* Technical: Creating i.e. a Mastodon instance somewhere is technically
simple, running that instance in Wikimedia production servers is another
story. While there is no need to start with a service in production, it is
useful to consider the scenario early on.

* Legal: Aiming for an official Wikimedia instance has implications of
trademarks, legal requirements, and so on. While there is no need to start
with an official instance, it is useful to consider the scenario early on.

* Social: While creating an instance would be simple, having a critical
mass of Wikimedians aware of it and using it regularly is not. There is no
lack of brilliant ideas that failed because the people didn't follow. And
here you would be fighting against resistance to change e.g. from those
believing that Wikimedians should focus on wikis only, from Wikimedians
well invested in corporate social networks (Facebook, Twitter, etc) and of
course with everyone being "too busy to join another channel". Whoever
drives this initiative must be ready to work hard explaining, promoting,
supporting...

Bottom line: this would be an initiative relatively simple to start, that
has a clear risk of complications coming if it succeeds. Considering that
the likely scenario for any new experiment is that it will close in less
than a year, I think those complications caused by success is a problem the
promoters of this initiative would want to have.

PS: In my personal time I am a Fediverse enthusiast and a Mastodon instance
admin, and for this reason I am being cautious about bias / being too
passionate.  :)

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> Cheers.
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> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-April/089977.html
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> Le 11/04/2018 à 11:17, Quim Gil a écrit :
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> (These are personal opinions based on my own personal interest in free and
> volunteer-driven social networks, not an opinion as a WMF member.)
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> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu  
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> wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>
> I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not
> abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting
> anonymity, free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many. The Diaspora*
> Project[1] is not moving forward very fast and the Mastodon[2] is more a
> microblogging service rather than a social network service.
>
>
> Can it be that the difference between "microblogging service" and "social
> network" might be too subtle and subjective to be noticed by the majority
> of their users? And for the problem you are presenting here?
>
>
> Would it make sense for Wikimedia movement to build its own social network
>
> service?
>
>
> Depends on what you mean by "build". If you mean create the software for a
> new social network service, I don't think it makes sense. Providing support
> and development of multilingual wiki 
> projects 
>  to collect and develop
> educational content to empower and engage people around the world is
> already a daunting task in terms of software development, and there is so
> much to do.
>
> If you mean to run the software developed by someone else, sure, why not
> experimenting. Thanks to free software licenses anyone can try, and thanks
> to Wikimedia trademarks licenses I am sure a decent solution could be found
> by whoever wants to run this experiment.
>
>
> In the "2017 Movement strategy” we state: “By 2030, Wikimedia