Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

2018-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 August 2018 at 23:19, a b  wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:50 AM, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:

[Two outstanding issues with the new website]

> Please file the relevant tasks in phabricator to enable better tracking of
> issues compared to on the mailing list:

Thank you; no.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation website has soft launched!

2018-08-11 Thread a b
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Michael Peel  wrote:

> Huh? it’s already been live at https://wikimediafoundation.org/ for the
> last week or so - that’s not a “soft launch”, that’s a full launch (maybe
> without the trimmings).
>
> Should I repost the comments/bug reports I sent to wmfcc-l last week more
> publicly?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

It would probably be best to file them in phabricator for improved tracking
of the bug reports:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?tags=wikimediafoundation.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

2018-08-11 Thread a b
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:50 AM, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On 3 August 2018 at 22:12, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
>
> > On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum  wrote:
> >
> >> You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear your
> browser's cache):  https://wikimediafoundation.org/
> >
> > The home page currently says:
> >
> >" Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as Creative Commons
> material. "
> >
> > That is not true. Material includes:
> >
> > * PD content (copyright expires; US government, etc)
> > * Fair-use copyright material.
> >
> > In the latter case, suggesting otherwise could be harmful to our users.
>
> The text I cited has now been changed to "All text on Wikimedia sites
> is available as Creative Commons material".
>
> This does not resolve the issue I raised above; as my first bullet
> point applies not only to media files, but also to numerous texts on
> Wikimedia sites; not least a large part of Wikisource.
>
> > Furthermore, the "Sesame Street" image used on the site's home page
> > and the linked article, is labelled on Commons: "This work might not
> > be available under a free license in the United States because it is
> > based on an artwork or sculpture that may be protected by copyright
> > under U.S. law."
>
> This image is still on the pages I mentioned.
>

Please file the relevant tasks in phabricator to enable better tracking of
issues compared to on the mailing list:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?tags=wikimediafoundation.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

2018-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2018 at 22:12, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum  wrote:
>
>> You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear your browser's 
>> cache):  https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>
> The home page currently says:
>
>" Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as Creative Commons 
> material. "
>
> That is not true. Material includes:
>
> * PD content (copyright expires; US government, etc)
> * Fair-use copyright material.
>
> In the latter case, suggesting otherwise could be harmful to our users.

The text I cited has now been changed to "All text on Wikimedia sites
is available as Creative Commons material".

This does not resolve the issue I raised above; as my first bullet
point applies not only to media files, but also to numerous texts on
Wikimedia sites; not least a large part of Wikisource.

> Furthermore, the "Sesame Street" image used on the site's home page
> and the linked article, is labelled on Commons: "This work might not
> be available under a free license in the United States because it is
> based on an artwork or sculpture that may be protected by copyright
> under U.S. law."

This image is still on the pages I mentioned.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation website has soft launched!

2018-08-11 Thread Pine W
Greg, thank you for the update. Now would be a good time to correct the
faulty information that's on the main page of the new website in the "Key
Information" section.

I have several more pointed thoughts, but I think that those comments would
further alienate WMF people and you/they would react to my comments by
being defensive instead of improving, so I'm stopping here for the moment.

Pine
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