Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
Hi Cornelius, Thank you for the clarification. I suggest a change of wording, because "the organized part of the movement" is much broader than WMF, its committees, and the affiliates. I suggest that a suitable name for the conference would be the "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit", which would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Dear Kirill, Thank you, that was very informative indeed. I forgot to mention in my previous message, those three false statements about WMPT conduct were presented as part of the justification for the WMPT suspension in the original notification, sent 15 July. Despite receiving all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Paulo, You were provided ample details regarding these concerns, both in the original suspension letter and in response to the specific questions raised during the subsequent email discussion. If Wikimedia Portugal wants to publish the full text of the suspension letter and have a public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Kirill, Correction: The message sent to you stating we were not going to head those specific requests due to its illegality was sent in 17 July, not 15. While we are at it, can you please explain why the AffCom has, in a message dated 15 July, falsely accused WMPT of: - "*Not advising the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Kirill, I requested a clarification regarding WMPT activities, and Gonçalo asked a general clarification, also mentioning activities. In no way it implies that we have understood your request as applying only to activities - In fact, my understanding is everyone at WMPT understood it as a general

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Paulo, The request for clarification to which you refer was -- as I'm sure you recall -- in reference to carrying out planned activities, and had nothing to do with any legal matters, tax filings, or the like; the same was true of the committee's response: Olá Gonçalo, > > Yes, you can count

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hello Kirill, On the message the AffCom has sent on 20 May, addressed to the chair of the WMPT board, answering to a request for clarification, you stated: "*we would like you not to introduce themselves as WMPT board members, but as members of WMPT*". It seems quite obvious to me that, had the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Paulo, The email that the Affiliations Committee sent to you -- among various others -- on May 18 read as follows: Dear members of Wikimedia Portugal, > > The recent developments in your chapter have been brought to our attention > by a number of members of the chapter, as well as members of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
It does not surprises me in the least the AffCom had forced other affiliates to "negotiate" with reported harassers. On the message sent to the associates of WMPT in 18 May, the AffCom demanded "*all members of the chapter to cease from taking part in this conflict and to work to resolve

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Chico Venancio
While I cannot speak to the legality of these actions, Affcom's demand that we (Brazilian affiliates) meet with reported harassers was very troubling to me. The fact that despite our agreement with that baffling condition no actual mediation took place, Affcom refused to engage with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Two illegal requests, to be more precise. Last 18 May, the AffCom demanded (by mail) that the recently elected (15 April) WMPT board stopped acting as such. However, under the Portuguese law, that board, which had been elected in a validated General Assembly, was the only valid board of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Shani Evenstein
Dear Cornelius, Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from most affiliates, this is a great opportunity to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Just to make a clarification: I made a small mistake in a sentence that should actually be: Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs > (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (*~20*), the committees (~15 > from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Pine, yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates. Best regards Cornelius On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wrote: > Hello Daniela and Cornelius, > > Thank you for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
I don't want affiliates to get a free pass to create problems or neglect their responsibilities such as by failing to produce reports, misusing trademarks, misappropriating funds, etc., and I am glad to see that AffCom is taking action when it thinks that there are problems. However, I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
Hello Daniela and Cornelius, Thank you for this update. Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"? Are you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear all, As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany. The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Semantic annotation of red links on Wikipedia

2018-09-25 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l
All that red makes the page look bad, and i would like to point out the abuse factor here, all those red links start edit wars,   and should be put there if any by people, The creation of the wikidata page also creats a problem, because it does not establis a lable which should be mandatory  

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference Russia 2018

2018-09-25 Thread Jack Gleeson
Congratulations on such a successful event! On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 14:35, Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin < f...@yandex.com> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > This is just to let you know that this past weekend of 22-23 September > we've successfully had our 12th Annual Wikimedia Russia

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference Russia 2018

2018-09-25 Thread Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin
Dear colleagues, This is just to let you know that this past weekend of 22-23 September we've successfully had our 12th Annual Wikimedia Russia Conference, dedicated to Wikimedia projects in the languages of Russia, as well as overall challenges of free knowledge creation and dissemination.