Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-28 Thread Devouard (gmail)
Le 27/09/2018 à 10:00, Asaf Bartov a écrit : On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) wrote: I think it is a very good move. Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread effe iets anders
Perhaps stating the obvious, but please remember there were some significant flaws with the consultation by the WMF that you refer to (especially with regards to the way questions were phrased and options were limited beforehand, if I recall correctly). Wikimania's purpose is mostly pluriform and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-28 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Hi Lodewijk, quick sanity check answer: * I do mention WMF staff members. Of the 200 participants, we see at least 20 staff members of the Wikimedia Foundation participating that are not present in other roles (like the ones you have mentioned). It is also mentioned on the Eligibility Criteria

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy Process: Community update August 2018

2018-09-28 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hello Nicole, Just to make sure I've correctly understood the scope of the Strategy Working Groups: "*After that, the groups will start to develop concrete recommendations for change on the structural level of our movement in key thematic areas, and how we might implement this change in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Keating
> > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > > consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:10 PM Andrew Lih wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating > wrote: > > > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > > accountability. Which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:46 PM James Heilman wrote: > The Wikimedia Conference is "closed" in that only those who are invited are > allowed to attend. Wikimania is an open conference meaning basically anyone > can attend, including those currently outside the movement. This is a great point

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating wrote: > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > consultation, but I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-28 Thread Peter Southwood
Could you reformat to make this more legible? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michal Buczynski Sent: 27 September 2018 14:07 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference