Re: [Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

2019-01-07 Thread Peter Southwood
Is this a general observation or is there some specific point I am missing here?
Cheers,
Peter

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I do not see what community this is being 
controlled by;
 
1. there are no notice boards, or request for 
administrators, like they have in other wiki’s etc..
 
2. there is no 
arbitration committee, or problems resolution section to go to, 
etc..
 
3. there are no open rules on blocking.
 
4. there 
is no unblocking feature, and yet there is a review page.
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Category:Requests_for_unblock

5. there is nothing in place to review an 
administrators abuse of there blocking powers etc..  
 
6. for 
newbies there is no active user talk page to request an unblock and if you 
try,
to that gets blocked 
to.

7. there is no OTRS.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy Process

2019-01-07 Thread Pine W
Fae, I have a number of points of contention with WMF, but at least as far
as the strategy process is concerned WMF has done a few things that no one
was forcing it to do such as being willing to discuss how money is
collected and distributed, and Kaarel has been diplomatic in my
communications with him. I'm fine with asking difficult questions about the
strategy process, but I'm willing to extend an assumption of good faith to
the process. If I could make changes happen magically then I would like for
the strategy groups to be far more weighted to volunteers than staff, but I
also recognize that it's difficult to get volunteers for the large time
commitment that WMF is asking of the strategy groups, and I'm not sure that
I could do a much better job than Kaarel and Nicole are doing at the
moment. I suggest that a slightly more diplomatic tone would be good if you
want people to respond to your questions. I can't force you to take this
suggestion, and I've certainly been unhappy with other WMF actions, so I
can only explain here why I'm willing to extend an assumption of good faith
to this particular process and would encourage you to think about doing the
same. If the strategy process starts to go in ways that I dislike later,
I'll think about what to do then, but for now I think that AGF and civility
are the way to go with regards to this process.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Structured data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

2019-01-07 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the news, Keegan. I'm cross-posting the info to other lists with
the date boldly corrected.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

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Hi all, following up on last month's announcement... [0]

Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday,
9 January or Thursday, 10 January 2019. Captions are a feature to add
short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want
to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:

* Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on
mediawiki.org because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel
free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons. [1]
* Test out using captions on Beta Commons. [2]
* Leave feedback about the test on the captions test talk page, if you have
anything you'd like to say prior to release. [3]

Additionally, there will be an IRC office hour on Thursday, 10 January with
the Structured Data team to talk about file captions, as well as anything
else the community may be interested in. Date/time conversion, as well as a
link to join, are on Meta. [4]

Thanks for your time, I look forward to seeing those who can make it to the
IRC office hour on Thursday. I'll reply to this post once I confirm exactly
what day file captions will be released to Commons.

0.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump=331569911#Structured_data_-_Multilingual_captions_beta_testing
1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:File_captions
2. https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/
3.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data/Beta_captions_testing
4. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

2019-01-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 17:53, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l
 wrote:

> 1. there are no notice boards, or request for
> administrators, like they have in other wiki’s etc..

That is not so. There is:

   https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub

which serves the purpose of a general noticeboard; it also lists
several other more specific venues.

It is not necessary for smaller projects to have the number of
noticeboards - let alone the overall bureaucracy - that are used by
larger projects.

If the OP has a /specific/ issue they should raise it on the above
page. If blocked, they should use their own talk page, pinging the
blocking admin.

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@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

2019-01-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This person sent this mail today to multiple mailing lists, to some of them
twice.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:53 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

>
> I do not see what community this is being
> controlled by;
>
> 1. there are no notice boards, or request for
> administrators, like they have in other wiki’s etc..
>
> 2. there is no
> arbitration committee, or problems resolution section to go to,
> etc..
>
> 3. there are no open rules on blocking.
>
> 4. there
> is no unblocking feature, and yet there is a review page.
> https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Category:Requests_for_unblock
>
> 5. there is nothing in place to review an
> administrators abuse of there blocking powers etc..
>
> 6. for
> newbies there is no active user talk page to request an unblock and if you
> try,
> to that gets blocked
> to.
>
> 7. there is no OTRS.
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[Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

2019-01-07 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l

I do not see what community this is being 
controlled by;
 
1. there are no notice boards, or request for 
administrators, like they have in other wiki’s etc..
 
2. there is no 
arbitration committee, or problems resolution section to go to, 
etc..
 
3. there are no open rules on blocking.
 
4. there 
is no unblocking feature, and yet there is a review page.
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Category:Requests_for_unblock

5. there is nothing in place to review an 
administrators abuse of there blocking powers etc..  
 
6. for 
newbies there is no active user talk page to request an unblock and if you 
try,
to that gets blocked 
to.

7. there is no OTRS.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Vi to
By the way, please do not intervene en masse. They (the user involved) have
a strong tendency towards using "colonialism" as a general purpose excuse
for their action, as I experienced myself a bunch of months ago, along with
a series of references to Italian invasion of Ethiopia.
This kind of excuse is easily is fed by this kind of intervention. Talkpage
contents is a trivial matter compared to insults and abuse of
administrative privileges. While the latter one is solved the first one is
yet to be handled.

Vito

Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 15:56 James Heilman  ha
scritto:

> While we give individual languages / projects a great deal of autonomy,
> they are not completely autonomous and remain accountable to our global
> norms. We have a shared brand to uphold. Glad to see a strong position has
> been taken by the community against discrimination based on sexual
> orientation.
>
> My 2 cents
> James
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:39 AM Ariel Glenn WMF 
> wrote:
>
> > A note that the user's talk page
> >
> >
> https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D_%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AD%E1%8B%AD%E1%89%B5:Codex_Sinaiticus
> > may or may not reflect all of the comments made at any given moment,
> since
> > the user has been engaged in deleting large parts of the discussion.
> You'll
> > want to double-check the history to see what's been written.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy Process

2019-01-07 Thread
"Liaisons will ensure that the voices and perspectives of these
communities are heard and considered in the Movement Strategy Process"

Question 1: Was there not feedback last year from volunteer
coordinators (or whatever the title was) that their voices were lost,
and that their time felt wasted; how was that fixed?

Question 2: Exactly how are paid liaisons empowered or authorised to
"ensure" that community feedback is heard, or will be able to measure
their impact on the huge, expensive and politically sensitive WMF
strategy process?

By the way, I know that the pitch is that this is a "movement"
strategy, but clearly when the top level goals are express in language
like:
"To serve our users, we will become a platform that serves open
knowledge to the world across interfaces and communities. We will
build tools for allies and partners to organize and exchange free
knowledge beyond Wikimedia. Our infrastructure will enable us and
others to collect and use different forms of free, trusted knowledge."
This has nothing to do with unpaid volunteers like me, as my real
experience over several years is that I have no voice whatsoever to
actually influence any of this WMF employee controlled
'infrastructure', 'platforms' or who the WMF chooses as 'partners',
even though I have invested months of my time in the development of
GLAM related tools, none was ever recognised or later maintained by
the WMF. I recall personal discussions and phone conferences where WMF
management were positively rude about any prospect of WMF dev time
being involved in non-WMF employee originating projects, and though
tone may be nicer, the outcomes are the same.

For these reasons I have positively avoided using up my valuable
volunteer time over the last couple of years in any of these WMF
strategy discussions, it would be jolly nice to be provided with
evidence that things are different in 2019, and it would be worth me
reconsidering my views and try to engage with whoever becomes a paid
WMF liaison when they appear on Commons, rather than ignoring them,
their surveys, or their email offers for interviews.

Thanks in advance,
Fae (Commons volunteer)

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 15:01, Kaarel Vaidla  wrote:
>
> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>
> We are happy to announce our plans to engage Wikimedia communities in the
> strategic and structural reform discussions of our global movement. The
> Movement Strategy Process requires input and participation from all of our
> communities and we are looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy
> Process to engage with some language communities and facilitate their
> participation in global strategic discussions. Liaisons will ensure that
> the voices and perspectives of these communities are heard and considered
> in the Movement Strategy Process and that members of these communities
> actively engage and participate in the discussions in their own language.
>
> Based on criteria of reach of the language, projects, as well as existing
> editor base, the Core Team has identified the following language
> communities for further engagement and will be hiring a Strategy Liaisons
> for each:[1]: Arabic, French, German, Hindi, Japanese, Mandarin Chinese,
> Portuguese, Russian and Spanish.
>
> The Liaisons are expected to: engage with the communities in their native
> language; coordinate and facilitate discussions; support healthy
> communication; provide details and context when needed, and monitor
> different communication channels of the communities to surface ideas
> related to the Strategy Process. Liaisons will be expected to identify
> opportunities where the ongoing Movement Strategy Process discussions can
> benefit and solicit ideas from interested community members. Liaisons will
> also be expected to summarize the most important discussion points,
> coordinate translations of these summaries to share them with Liaisons
> Coordinator, Working Groups and wider global community.
>
> Ideal candidates will have  a good connection with the local communities,
> strong communication skills, fluency in English and one of the nine
> identified community languages as well as organizational and collaborative
> skills.
>
> The Liaisons positions will be part time (up to 20 h/week) and will be in
> place from February to December 2019. If you are interested in the role or
> would like to have more information, you can find the full description of
> the role on respective application page
>  [2].
>
> Please note that we are also  recruiting for a full-time Liaisons
> Coordinator to ensure  engagement of the communities in the Movemement
> Strategy Process and manage the worknd fuddy-duddy of the  Strategy Liaisons. 
> You can
> find the full description of this role on respective application page
>  [3].
>nd fuddy-duddy
> We look forward to collaborating with many of you 

[Wikimedia-l] Looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy Process

2019-01-07 Thread Kaarel Vaidla
Dear fellow Wikimedians,

We are happy to announce our plans to engage Wikimedia communities in the
strategic and structural reform discussions of our global movement. The
Movement Strategy Process requires input and participation from all of our
communities and we are looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy
Process to engage with some language communities and facilitate their
participation in global strategic discussions. Liaisons will ensure that
the voices and perspectives of these communities are heard and considered
in the Movement Strategy Process and that members of these communities
actively engage and participate in the discussions in their own language.

Based on criteria of reach of the language, projects, as well as existing
editor base, the Core Team has identified the following language
communities for further engagement and will be hiring a Strategy Liaisons
for each:[1]: Arabic, French, German, Hindi, Japanese, Mandarin Chinese,
Portuguese, Russian and Spanish.

The Liaisons are expected to: engage with the communities in their native
language; coordinate and facilitate discussions; support healthy
communication; provide details and context when needed, and monitor
different communication channels of the communities to surface ideas
related to the Strategy Process. Liaisons will be expected to identify
opportunities where the ongoing Movement Strategy Process discussions can
benefit and solicit ideas from interested community members. Liaisons will
also be expected to summarize the most important discussion points,
coordinate translations of these summaries to share them with Liaisons
Coordinator, Working Groups and wider global community.

Ideal candidates will have  a good connection with the local communities,
strong communication skills, fluency in English and one of the nine
identified community languages as well as organizational and collaborative
skills.

The Liaisons positions will be part time (up to 20 h/week) and will be in
place from February to December 2019. If you are interested in the role or
would like to have more information, you can find the full description of
the role on respective application page
 [2].

Please note that we are also  recruiting for a full-time Liaisons
Coordinator to ensure  engagement of the communities in the Movemement
Strategy Process and manage the work of the  Strategy Liaisons. You can
find the full description of this role on respective application page
 [3].

We look forward to collaborating with many of you in the upcoming year and
working with the Strategy Liaisons to engage  our communities in the
Movement Strategy Process. If you have any questions or specifications
regarding the role, please do not hesitate to reach out to our Project
Manager Jodi McMurray ( jmcmurray{{at}}wikimedia.org ).

With all the best wishes,

Kaarel and the Core Team

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Participate/Translation

[2] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/1478679?gh_src=2a6a8b121

[3] https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/1460548?gh_src=abf396081
-- 
*Kaarel Vaidla*
Process Architect for
Wikimedia Movement Strategy
2030.wikimedia.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread James Heilman
While we give individual languages / projects a great deal of autonomy,
they are not completely autonomous and remain accountable to our global
norms. We have a shared brand to uphold. Glad to see a strong position has
been taken by the community against discrimination based on sexual
orientation.

My 2 cents
James

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:39 AM Ariel Glenn WMF  wrote:

> A note that the user's talk page
>
> https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D_%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AD%E1%8B%AD%E1%89%B5:Codex_Sinaiticus
> may or may not reflect all of the comments made at any given moment, since
> the user has been engaged in deleting large parts of the discussion. You'll
> want to double-check the history to see what's been written.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
A note that the user's talk page
https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D_%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AD%E1%8B%AD%E1%89%B5:Codex_Sinaiticus
may or may not reflect all of the comments made at any given moment, since
the user has been engaged in deleting large parts of the discussion. You'll
want to double-check the history to see what's been written.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread
Thanks TS for making an initial statement. Hopefully this case
sets a useful precedent to ensure everyone is a bit clearer on
processes to follow and what is the best advice to offer complainants
who suffer discriminatory sysop actions on Wikimedia projects.
Certainly it has reinforced my view that Wikimedians need affiliates
like the WM-LGBT+ user group to maintain off-wiki channels where
members of minority groups can be confident of a safe space to ask
questions, or just vent their frustration, and not feel alone when
they encounter problems on our projects.[1]

In addition to investigating this case, I recommend that TS
review the WMF terms of use which fail to align with the 2006 WMF
board resolution against discrimination.[2][3] Though the ToU do
include "Harassing and Abusing Others", it does not explicitly spell
out that using the projects in to create a hostile environment which
actively promotes discrimination against minority groups is not
allowed.

The Amharic Wikipedia (am.wp) case is one where sysop tools have been
used to promote homophobic views, the evidence is unarguable, and
those of us within the WM-LGBT+ community have no doubt that the (ex)
sysop should be banned. On investigation it is clear that am.wp lacks
any LGBT+ related articles, even simple neutral articles about
homosexuality or the history of anti-LGBT+ law in Ethiopia are
missing. It seems likely that the project has been dominated by the
promotion of homophobic views, to the extent that this is such a
expressly hostile environment, that nobody would attempt to improve
LGBT+ related content, let alone expect to be treated as a colleague
there if they are openly LGBT+ themselves.

Everyone should be aware that expressing views such these by the
previously trusted administrator Codex_Sinaiticus (aka Til
Eulenspiegel) below which are used to attack and dehumanise other
contributors, are so extreme and blatantly against our shared values
to provide a non-hostile collegiate environment for Wikimedia
volunteers, that they should fully expect blocks and site bans to be
supported by the wider community, no matter what language project they
are contributing to:
* "Don't force your sick values on Ethiopia - you will regret it! Til
Eulenspiegel (talk) 01:31, 7 ጃንዩዌሪ 2019 (UTC)"
* "No, actually homosexuals are considered subhuman by the vast
majority of Ethiopians. Removing my management with no warning or
appeal is typical hamfistedness, like Ethiopia dealt with in 1936.! .
Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 01:45, 7 ጃንዩዌሪ 2019 (UTC)"

Summary of events:
# QueerEcofeminist is a long term contributor on other projects who
discovers they are blocked by Codex_Sinaiticus on am.wp without
warning, a Wikipedia project they have never edited. The block
rationale is that their account name is unacceptable against policy,
no policy is ever provided in later discussion.[5]
# QueerEcofeminist asks the administrator about the block on their
am.wp user talk page, in reply their user talk page is deleted
(@16:16, 6 January 2019), making it clear that the block cannot be
discussed. 4 minutes later their block is amended to deny user talk
page access.[5]
# QueerEcofeminist asks for views on the WM-LGBT+ Telegram group, as a
result with QueerEcofeminist's permission this public thread
requesting more views is raised on Wikipedia-l and WMF T & S is
emailed asking to examine the case as one of using the projects for
discrimination.
# Meta steward Teles is part of the Telegram group, and offers to
engage with the blocking administrator. After a brief discussion their
am.wp account is locally blocked by Codex_Sinaiticus.[7]
# Codex_Sinaiticus continues part of the discussion on their talk page
as Til_Eulenspiegel, an alternate account. Later the accounts are
cross linked which makes this clearer.
# Meta steward MarcoAurelio intervenes and removes sysop and
bureaucrat rights from Codex_Sinaiticus's account due to misuse while
engaged in a dispute and removes the block of Teles.
# Codex_Sinaiticus starts to remove discussion from their talk page,
apparently attempting to censor views by calling it harassment.[8]

Links:
1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT
2. https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
3. https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
(2006) "The Wikimedia Foundation prohibits discrimination against
current or prospective users and employees on the basis of race,
color, gender, religion, national origin, age, disability, sexual
orientation, or any other legally protected characteristics."
4. 
https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D_%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AD%E1%8B%AD%E1%89%B5:Codex_Sinaiticus
5. Block log: 
https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Logpage=User%3AQueerEcofeministtype=block
6. Attempted civil discussion:
https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D_%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AD%E1%8B%AD%E1%89%B5:Codex_Sinaiticus#QueerEcofeminist_block
7. Block log: 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Kalliope Tsouroupidou
Hello from the Trust and Safety Team at the Wikimedia Foundation,

First of all, we want to thank the community members alerting us of the
situation through several private notes on the matter that have reached us
over the past few days. Special thanks also go out to Pine and Risker for
their efforts in analysing the situation in this thread.

The situation outlined here appears to be both complex with several years
of history and concerning, and is certainly one that Trust & Safety is
looking at in exploring appropriate actions on our side. As always, please
do keep in mind that we are not a team mandated for fast reaction (except
for situations involving threats of harm, which are handled under a
different protocol, as many of you probably know already). For that reason,
we are inclined to review this thoroughly and act correctly, rather than
quickly. Please understand that while our team is already working on
understanding the intricacies of the situation itself while supporting the
affected individual, we will not be able to publicly share information
about the progress or outcome of our review for privacy reasons. Meanwhile,
our review and any potential outcome deriving from it, should not prevent
the community from continuing to take actions as they see fit and in
accordance to project policies, of course.

Also, bear in mind that we do not systematically monitor the Wikimedia
mailing lists, and may miss information shared about this on such moving
forward. If anyone feels they are in possession of pertinent information
that is worth considering in our review of this case, they are encouraged
to reach out to us directly at our established team inbox: c...@wikimedia.org.

Once again, thank you all for being vigilant.

Warm regards and best wishes for 2019,

K.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:04 PM Vi to  wrote:

> The lobby of high voltage warning signs disagrees.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:37 Yaroslav Blanter  >
> ha scritto:
>
> > Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking
> > locally an acting steward is not really a good idea.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Yaroslav
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to  wrote:
> >
> > > Because of a truly great idea
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Log/block=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D%3ATeles
> > > >
> > > the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights==Codex+Sinaiticus%40amwiki===
> > > >
> > > by Marco Aurelio.
> > >
> > > Vito
> > >
> > > Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani <
> > > ladsgr...@gmail.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation
> of
> > > > nondiscrimination policy [2]
> > > >
> > > > [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will
> it
> > be
> > > > forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political
> agenda
> > > if
> > > > you expect Ethiopians to take part."
> > > > [2]
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on
> one
> > > > > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over
> > > > about a
> > > > > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia
> projects.
> > > The
> > > > > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor
> > > > > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the
> > > automatic
> > > > > account creation algorithm.  The account was created 8 years ago,
> and
> > > has
> > > > > actively edited a wide variety of  projects, including several
> > > > wikipedias,
> > > > > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the
> account's
> > > > > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made
> > on
> > > > > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to
> > > have
> > > > > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the
> > > editor
> > > > > was "looking at" the project on 9  February 2018.  The block for
> > > account
> > > > > name was made on 22 October 2018.  I note that accounts were
> created
> > on
> > > > > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February
> > 2018.
> > > > >
> > > > > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this
> editor
> > > was
> > > > > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account,
> > > explicitly
> > > > > because of the perception that their username calls attention to
> the
> > > > sexual
> > > > > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is
> > in
> > > > fact
> > > > > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if
> it
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would 

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2019-01-07 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear Wikimedians,
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far, and registration is now open. You can register or send your programme 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Vi to
The lobby of high voltage warning signs disagrees.

Vito

Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:37 Yaroslav Blanter 
ha scritto:

> Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking
> locally an acting steward is not really a good idea.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to  wrote:
>
> > Because of a truly great idea
> > <
> >
> https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Log/block=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D%3ATeles
> > >
> > the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights==Codex+Sinaiticus%40amwiki===
> > >
> > by Marco Aurelio.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani <
> > ladsgr...@gmail.com>
> > ha scritto:
> >
> > > Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of
> > > nondiscrimination policy [2]
> > >
> > > [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it
> be
> > > forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda
> > if
> > > you expect Ethiopians to take part."
> > > [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
> > >
> > > Best
> > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker  wrote:
> > >
> > > >  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one
> > > > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over
> > > about a
> > > > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects.
> > The
> > > > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor
> > > > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the
> > automatic
> > > > account creation algorithm.  The account was created 8 years ago, and
> > has
> > > > actively edited a wide variety of  projects, including several
> > > wikipedias,
> > > > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's
> > > > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made
> on
> > > > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to
> > have
> > > > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the
> > editor
> > > > was "looking at" the project on 9  February 2018.  The block for
> > account
> > > > name was made on 22 October 2018.  I note that accounts were created
> on
> > > > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February
> 2018.
> > > >
> > > > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor
> > was
> > > > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account,
> > explicitly
> > > > because of the perception that their username calls attention to the
> > > sexual
> > > > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is
> in
> > > fact
> > > > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it
> > is
> > > a
> > > > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block
> > > > reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the
> > > account
> > > > was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia,
> > nor
> > > do
> > > > we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username
> > like
> > > > "StraightGuy101" would be blocked.  We do know that there are only 4
> > > > administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50
> > > > active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason
> > for
> > > > the delay between automatic account creation and the account block.
> > > >
> > > > We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all
> > > > Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames
> that
> > > are
> > > > acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've
> known
> > > that
> > > > for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies
> when
> > it
> > > > comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that
> is
> > > > acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language,
> even
> > in
> > > > cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username
> would
> > > be a
> > > > problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of
> > > cases
> > > > where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on
> > all
> > > > kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on
> other
> > > > projects.
> > > >
> > > > I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the
> > editor
> > > > themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always
> wary
> > > of
> > > > turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct
> > > > agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the
> > first
> > > > step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor
> > > > whether or not they want their "case" to be examined.
> > > >
> > > > Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest 

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2019-01-07 Thread Romaine Wiki
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking
locally an acting steward is not really a good idea.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to  wrote:

> Because of a truly great idea
> <
> https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Log/block=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D%3ATeles
> >
> the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights==Codex+Sinaiticus%40amwiki===
> >
> by Marco Aurelio.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani <
> ladsgr...@gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
> > Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of
> > nondiscrimination policy [2]
> >
> > [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it be
> > forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda
> if
> > you expect Ethiopians to take part."
> > [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
> >
> > Best
> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker  wrote:
> >
> > >  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one
> > > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over
> > about a
> > > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects.
> The
> > > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor
> > > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the
> automatic
> > > account creation algorithm.  The account was created 8 years ago, and
> has
> > > actively edited a wide variety of  projects, including several
> > wikipedias,
> > > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's
> > > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made on
> > > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to
> have
> > > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the
> editor
> > > was "looking at" the project on 9  February 2018.  The block for
> account
> > > name was made on 22 October 2018.  I note that accounts were created on
> > > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February 2018.
> > >
> > > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor
> was
> > > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account,
> explicitly
> > > because of the perception that their username calls attention to the
> > sexual
> > > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is in
> > fact
> > > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it
> is
> > a
> > > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block
> > > reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the
> > account
> > > was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia,
> nor
> > do
> > > we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username
> like
> > > "StraightGuy101" would be blocked.  We do know that there are only 4
> > > administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50
> > > active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason
> for
> > > the delay between automatic account creation and the account block.
> > >
> > > We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all
> > > Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames that
> > are
> > > acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've known
> > that
> > > for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies when
> it
> > > comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that is
> > > acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language, even
> in
> > > cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username would
> > be a
> > > problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of
> > cases
> > > where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on
> all
> > > kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on other
> > > projects.
> > >
> > > I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the
> editor
> > > themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always wary
> > of
> > > turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct
> > > agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the
> first
> > > step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor
> > > whether or not they want their "case" to be examined.
> > >
> > > Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest that the next step is for
> > someone
> > > who has the ability to converse in Amharic to contact the Amharic
> > Wikipedia
> > > and find out why the block has been issued, how it is consistent with
> the
> > > username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, whether that policy is driven in
> > part
> > > by external considerations (e.g., does the project risk heavy
> > governmental
> > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Vi to
Because of a truly great idea

the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked

by Marco Aurelio.

Vito

Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani 
ha scritto:

> Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of
> nondiscrimination policy [2]
>
> [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it be
> forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda if
> you expect Ethiopians to take part."
> [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination
>
> Best
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker  wrote:
>
> >  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one
> > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over
> about a
> > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects.  The
> > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor
> > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the automatic
> > account creation algorithm.  The account was created 8 years ago, and has
> > actively edited a wide variety of  projects, including several
> wikipedias,
> > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's
> > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made on
> > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to have
> > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the editor
> > was "looking at" the project on 9  February 2018.  The block for account
> > name was made on 22 October 2018.  I note that accounts were created on
> > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February 2018.
> >
> > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor was
> > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account, explicitly
> > because of the perception that their username calls attention to the
> sexual
> > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is in
> fact
> > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it is
> a
> > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block
> > reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the
> account
> > was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, nor
> do
> > we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username like
> > "StraightGuy101" would be blocked.  We do know that there are only 4
> > administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50
> > active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason for
> > the delay between automatic account creation and the account block.
> >
> > We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all
> > Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames that
> are
> > acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've known
> that
> > for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies when it
> > comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that is
> > acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language, even in
> > cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username would
> be a
> > problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of
> cases
> > where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on all
> > kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on other
> > projects.
> >
> > I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the editor
> > themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always wary
> of
> > turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct
> > agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the first
> > step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor
> > whether or not they want their "case" to be examined.
> >
> > Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest that the next step is for
> someone
> > who has the ability to converse in Amharic to contact the Amharic
> Wikipedia
> > and find out why the block has been issued, how it is consistent with the
> > username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, whether that policy is driven in
> part
> > by external considerations (e.g., does the project risk heavy
> governmental
> > scrutiny if it appears to "promote" locally unacceptable activities). I
> am
> > personally curious as to why it took over six months to identify that
> this
> > account did not meet the local username policy, and whether there was
> > internal or external discussion about the username.
> >
> > It is not clear to me what the desired outcome is in this case - at least
> > in part because we have no idea of the opinion of the editor involved.  

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of
nondiscrimination policy [2]

[1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it be
forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda if
you expect Ethiopians to take part."
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination

Best
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker  wrote:

>  I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one
> single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over about a
> dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects.  The
> majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor
> "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the automatic
> account creation algorithm.  The account was created 8 years ago, and has
> actively edited a wide variety of  projects, including several wikipedias,
> Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's
> "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made on
> Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to have
> edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the editor
> was "looking at" the project on 9  February 2018.  The block for account
> name was made on 22 October 2018.  I note that accounts were created on
> over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February 2018.
>
> The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor was
> blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account, explicitly
> because of the perception that their username calls attention to the sexual
> behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is in fact
> a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it is a
> legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block
> reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the account
> was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, nor do
> we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username like
> "StraightGuy101" would be blocked.  We do know that there are only 4
> administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50
> active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason for
> the delay between automatic account creation and the account block.
>
> We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all
> Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames that are
> acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've known that
> for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies when it
> comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that is
> acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language, even in
> cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username would be a
> problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of cases
> where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on all
> kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on other
> projects.
>
> I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the editor
> themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always wary of
> turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct
> agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the first
> step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor
> whether or not they want their "case" to be examined.
>
> Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest that the next step is for someone
> who has the ability to converse in Amharic to contact the Amharic Wikipedia
> and find out why the block has been issued, how it is consistent with the
> username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, whether that policy is driven in part
> by external considerations (e.g., does the project risk heavy governmental
> scrutiny if it appears to "promote" locally unacceptable activities). I am
> personally curious as to why it took over six months to identify that this
> account did not meet the local username policy, and whether there was
> internal or external discussion about the username.
>
> It is not clear to me what the desired outcome is in this case - at least
> in part because we have no idea of the opinion of the editor involved.  I
> am hard-pressed to say that a project should be required to allow usernames
> that it has a long history of considering unacceptable, especially if it is
> applied evenly to all accounts; in this case, if it disallows usernames
> that imply sexual preference regardless of what that preference is.
>
> It seems to me that the WMF Trust & Safety group would probably be the
> right group to examine this.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 09:42, Ariel Glenn WMF  wrote:
>
> > Additional notes:
> > The user's regular page can be viewed on en