Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:48 PM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I am troubled with the ease doubt is raised about people contributing to
> this mailing list/ our community/ our projects. This is a mailing list that
> has the option of moderation. That is already in itself a sure way of
> driving people away. However, it is not the same as going whole hog and ban
> like it is proposed.
>

If your concern is about ensuring a wide range of voices, I would note that
most people we "lose" from this list are not those who are moderated out of
existence.  Rather, they unsubscribe because they are frustrated about the
tone or the behavior of other participants.  As for what Risker said, I
would not describe it as "ease."  She has politely raised this after many
years of James behaving in the same way.  This list has generally tolerated
sharply different viewpoints, and it should continue to do so, even though
it will discourage some people from participating.  But we should not have
to put up with this sort of "I didn't hear that" behavior (if you'll
forgive my using English Wikipedia jargon).

Emufarmers
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Black Lunch Table Wikimedians

2019-01-16 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone!

I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] the Black Lunch Table Wikimedians [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
group aims to increase the reach, connection with communities, and presence
of Wikimedia especially as it pertains to gaps in the coverage of Black
visual artists, and to increase the visibility of marginal populations on
Wikimedia through events, online meetups, and other creative approaches.

Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

Regards,
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Black_Lunch_Table_Wikimedians
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Black_Lunch_Table
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Peru User Group

2019-01-16 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone!

I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] the Wikimedians of Peru User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
group aims to serve as a connection between the various Wikimedia projects
and the people of Peru, and to support the organization of local events as
the opportunity arises.

Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

Regards,
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_Wikimedians_of_Peru_User_Group
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedistas_de_Perú
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Amir Sarabadani
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 19:48 James Salsman  wrote:

> The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.


You just disclosed results of the survey before it ends, meaning people who
fill out the survey are biased on what majority thinks and vote under peer
pressure. Scientificly speaking, It's not a blind survey anymore. Thus the
final result of this survey is unusable and worthless.

Now let's get back to the question that how someone who doesn't know much
about research methodology wastes people's time and attention...
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to Special:Blockwith partial blocks

2019-01-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
This is one of your list moderators speaking.

"80hnhtv4agou" -- I am cautioning you against hijacking this thread to
discuss your current conflict.  Your question can be construed to be
general enough for Sydney to usefully answer for your and others'
information.  But please do not pursue your personal conflict in this
thread.

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On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:22 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

>
> what about administrators that abuse these tools.
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> Uploading files
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>Emailing other
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> Changes are being made to the design of the user interface
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> All
> Wikimedia administrators are invited to try partial blocks on
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to Special:Blockwith partial blocks

2019-01-16 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l

what about administrators that abuse these tools.
 
From: Sydney 
Poore
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:04 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing 
List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to 
Special:Blockwith partial blocks
 
Hello 
all,

In 2019, Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is 
continuing to
make improvements to Special:Block with the addition of the 
ability to set
a Partial 
block
< 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_health_initiative/Per_user_page,_namespace,_category,_and_upload_blocking
 >.


While 
no functionality will change for sitewide blocks, over the next few
months 
Special:Block will change to allow for the ability to block a named
user 
account or ip address from:

   1.

   Editing 
one or more specific page(s)
   2.

   Editing all 
pages within one or more namespace(s)
   3.

   
Uploading files
   4.

   Emailing other 
users

Changes are being made to the design of the user interface 
for
Special:Block to enable admins to set partial blocks.

All 
Wikimedia administrators are invited to try partial blocks on 
testwiki.

Special:block on testwiki allows admins to block an account 
from editing on
up to 10 pages.

Administrators on Wikimedia projects 
are invited to test this new way of
doing blocks on testwiki. Admins can 
reply off list to this email to
request access to test.

Tell us if 
your Wikimedia project wiki is interested in being one of first
wikis to 
enable partial block.

Special:Block with partial block enabled went live 
on Italian Wikipedia
today (January 16.)

Our team is looking for more 
Wikimedia wikis that want to use the first
version of partial 
block.


The first version of partial blocks is simple with new 
features to be added
in the coming months.

Please spread the word by 
about these changes to Special:Block by
forwarding this emails to others who 
might be interested in learning more
about partial blocks.

You can 
reach our team on 
Meta
< 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_health_initiative/Per-user_page,_namespace,_and_upload_blocking
 >
or 
by email to give us feedback about the changes to 
Special:Block.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Pete Forsyth

+1 to what Lane says.

I will not comment here on whether or not a specific user should be 
removed from the list, but I do feel that a survey like this one should 
not be sent to this list, especially from only one person without any 
apparent peer vetting etc. I would generally support considered actions 
from list moderators to reduce the number of notifications like this one.


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On 1/16/19 11:04 AM, Lane Rasberry wrote:

Risker raises the point of moderating research requests. I do not want to
comment on this survey in particular, but in general, many researchers
target the wiki community continually. We do not have community capacity to
endlessly complete surveys, and I would like survey moderation.

Access to the wiki community is a privilege because we all pay a cost when
anyone makes a request for time, attention, and labor. Wiki community time
is not an unlimited free asset for the world to solicit.

Here is a live discussion about this centered on something I wrote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Background

here it is archived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)=878717026#Background

James, I appreciate your interest in research. I do wish you would register
your research and conform to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:New_project
but currently, we have no wiki community rules that say for people to
register research. If anyone is upset about your research, then I wish that
the response to be to set general policy and practices for the many
surveyors and researchers seeking labor from Wiki community spaces and not
only look at this one channel, and this one survey.

thanks -


On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:48 PM James Salsman  wrote:


The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.
Why are these questions so offensive to the vocal minority who have
demanded that they not be discussed? Many nonprofit organizations
depending on volunteer labor advocates for social changes in support
of those volunteers, including by lobbying.




On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM Risker  wrote:

I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for

his

own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the

WMF

or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions

are

an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.

Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
contributor to this list.

Risker/Anne

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:


On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
wrote:

I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's

clear

here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and

has

no

origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?

Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:

https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) 
... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little

to

do with the Foundation's mission.

That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman 
wrote:

Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!

What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
people to collect and develop educational content:

http://bit.ly/wikimission

The survey results are summarized after form submission.

Best regards,
Jim Salsman

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Alex Power
Presumably a large majority of people didn't bother to respond to the
survey.

If you want to continue running surveys pushing your personal agenda until
everyone except your fan-club ignores you and you get the results you want,
I can't stop you, I can merely castigate you and recommend that the
Foundation ignore you.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:48 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.
> Why are these questions so offensive to the vocal minority who have
> demanded that they not be discussed? Many nonprofit organizations
> depending on volunteer labor advocates for social changes in support
> of those volunteers, including by lobbying.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM Risker  wrote:
> >
> > I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for
> his
> > own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the
> WMF
> > or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
> > that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions
> are
> > an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
> >
> > Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
> > perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
> > step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> > occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> > contributor to this list.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's
> clear
> > > > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and
> has
> > > no
> > > > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
> > >
> > > Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
> > > encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
> > > which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
> > > given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
> > > https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana)  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little
> to
> > > > do with the Foundation's mission.
> > >
> > > That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
> > > idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
> > > proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
> > > contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> > > > >
> > > > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > > > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > > > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > > > > people to collect and develop educational content:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> > > > >
> > > > > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Jim Salsman
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Lane Rasberry
Risker raises the point of moderating research requests. I do not want to
comment on this survey in particular, but in general, many researchers
target the wiki community continually. We do not have community capacity to
endlessly complete surveys, and I would like survey moderation.

Access to the wiki community is a privilege because we all pay a cost when
anyone makes a request for time, attention, and labor. Wiki community time
is not an unlimited free asset for the world to solicit.

Here is a live discussion about this centered on something I wrote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Background

here it is archived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)=878717026#Background

James, I appreciate your interest in research. I do wish you would register
your research and conform to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:New_project
but currently, we have no wiki community rules that say for people to
register research. If anyone is upset about your research, then I wish that
the response to be to set general policy and practices for the many
surveyors and researchers seeking labor from Wiki community spaces and not
only look at this one channel, and this one survey.

thanks -


On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:48 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.
> Why are these questions so offensive to the vocal minority who have
> demanded that they not be discussed? Many nonprofit organizations
> depending on volunteer labor advocates for social changes in support
> of those volunteers, including by lobbying.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM Risker  wrote:
> >
> > I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for
> his
> > own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the
> WMF
> > or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
> > that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions
> are
> > an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
> >
> > Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
> > perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
> > step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> > occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> > contributor to this list.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's
> clear
> > > > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and
> has
> > > no
> > > > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
> > >
> > > Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
> > > encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
> > > which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
> > > given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
> > > https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana)  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little
> to
> > > > do with the Foundation's mission.
> > >
> > > That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
> > > idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
> > > proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
> > > contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> > > > >
> > > > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > > > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > > > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > > > > people to collect and develop educational content:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> > > > >
> > > > > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Jim Salsman
> > >
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[Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to Special:Block with partial blocks

2019-01-16 Thread Sydney Poore
Hello all,

In 2019, Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is continuing to
make improvements to Special:Block with the addition of the ability to set
a Partial block
.


While no functionality will change for sitewide blocks, over the next few
months Special:Block will change to allow for the ability to block a named
user account or ip address from:

   1.

   Editing one or more specific page(s)
   2.

   Editing all pages within one or more namespace(s)
   3.

   Uploading files
   4.

   Emailing other users

Changes are being made to the design of the user interface for
Special:Block to enable admins to set partial blocks.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 18:27, James Salsman  wrote:

> The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] Wednesday, January 16 at 11:30 AM PST, 19:30 UTC

2019-01-16 Thread Janna Layton
Reminder that this event is starting in about 30 minutes!

YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc51jE_KNTc

As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research.

This month's presentation:

*Understanding participation in Wikipedia: Studies on the relationship
between new editors’ motivations and activity*
By Martina Balestra, New York University

Peer production communities like Wikipedia often struggle to retain
contributors beyond their initial engagement. Theory suggests this may be
related to their levels of motivation, though prior studies either center
on contributors’ activity or use cross-sectional survey methods, and
overlook accompanied changes in motivation. In this talk, I will present a
series of studies aimed at filling this gap. We begin by looking at how
Wikipedia editors’ early motivations influence the activities that they
come to engage in, and how these motivations change over the first three
months of participation in Wikipedia. We then look at the relationship
between editing activity and intrinsic motivation specifically over time.
We find that new editors’ early motivations are predictive of their future
activity, but that these motivations tend to change with time. Moreover,
newcomers’ intrinsic motivation is reinforced by the amount of activity
they engage in over time: editors who had a high level of intrinsic
motivation entered a virtuous cycle where the more they edited the more
motivated they became, whereas those who initially had low intrinsic
motivation entered a vicious cycle. Our findings shed new light on the
importance of early experiences and reveal that the relationship between
motivation and activity is more complex than previously understood.

Geography and knowledge. Reviving an old relationship with Wiki
AtlasBy Anastasios
Noulas, New York University
Wiki Atlas  is an interactive cartography
tool. The tool renders Wikipedia content in a 3-dimensional, web-based
cartographic environment. The map acts as a medium that enables the
discovery and exploration of articles in a manner that explicitly
associates geography and information. At its current prototype form, a
Wikipedia article is represented on the map as a 3D element whose height
property is proportional to the number of views the article has on the
website. This property enables the discovery of relevant content, in a
manner that reflects the significance of the target element by means of
collective attention by the site’s audience.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:49 AM Janna Layton  wrote:

> Hello, everyone,
>
> The next Research Showcase, *Understanding participation in Wikipedia*,
> will be live-streamed next Wednesday, January 16, at 11:30 AM PST/19:30
> UTC. This presentation is about new editors.
>
> YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc51jE_KNTc
>
> As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. You
> can also watch our past research showcases here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase
>
> This month's presentation:
>
> *Understanding participation in Wikipedia: Studies on the relationship
> between new editors’ motivations and activity*
>
> By Martina Balestra, New York University
>
> Peer production communities like Wikipedia often struggle to retain
> contributors beyond their initial engagement. Theory suggests this may be
> related to their levels of motivation, though prior studies either center
> on contributors’ activity or use cross-sectional survey methods, and
> overlook accompanied changes in motivation. In this talk, I will present a
> series of studies aimed at filling this gap. We begin by looking at how
> Wikipedia editors’ early motivations influence the activities that they
> come to engage in, and how these motivations change over the first three
> months of participation in Wikipedia. We then look at the relationship
> between editing activity and intrinsic motivation specifically over time.
> We find that new editors’ early motivations are predictive of their future
> activity, but that these motivations tend to change with time. Moreover,
> newcomers’ intrinsic motivation is reinforced by the amount of activity
> they engage in over time: editors who had a high level of intrinsic
> motivation entered a virtuous cycle where the more they edited the more
> motivated they became, whereas those who initially had low intrinsic
> motivation entered a vicious cycle. Our findings shed new light on the
> importance of early experiences and reveal that the relationship between
> motivation and activity is more complex than previously understood.
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread James Salsman
The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.
Why are these questions so offensive to the vocal minority who have
demanded that they not be discussed? Many nonprofit organizations
depending on volunteer labor advocates for social changes in support
of those volunteers, including by lobbying.




On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM Risker  wrote:
>
> I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for his
> own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the WMF
> or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
> that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions are
> an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
>
> Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
> perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
> step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> contributor to this list.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's clear
> > > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has
> > no
> > > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
> >
> > Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
> > encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
> > which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
> > given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
> > https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
> > > do with the Foundation's mission.
> >
> > That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
> > idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
> > proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
> > contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  > >
> > > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> > > >
> > > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > > > people to collect and develop educational content:
> > > >
> > > > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> > > >
> > > > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Jim Salsman
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Benjamin Ikuta


I'll admit I was initially deceived by his initial message. 



> On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Risker  wrote:
> 
> I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for his
> own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the WMF
> or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
> that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions are
> an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
> 
> Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
> perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
> step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> contributor to this list.
> 
> Risker/Anne
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's clear
>>> here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has
>> no
>>> origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
>> 
>> Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
>> encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
>> which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
>> given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
>> https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
>>> do with the Foundation's mission.
>> 
>> That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
>> idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
>> proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
>> contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman >> 
 Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
 
 What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
 contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
 Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
 people to collect and develop educational content:
 
 http://bit.ly/wikimission
 
 The survey results are summarized after form submission.
 
 Best regards,
 Jim Salsman
>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I am troubled with the ease doubt is raised about people contributing to
this mailing list/ our community/ our projects. This is a mailing list that
has the option of moderation. That is already in itself a sure way of
driving people away. However, it is not the same as going whole hog and ban
like it is proposed.

Our community needs to have a plurality of points of view and for me this
is yet another moment where the view point of others is not respected, a
moment where we are way too aggressive in ostracising someone who has been
with us for a long time. I have seen on multiple occasions how people with
a long track record become lost to us. All because of  what, the greater
good?

Sad indeed.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 19:05, Risker  wrote:

> I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for his
> own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the WMF
> or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
> that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions are
> an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
>
> Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
> perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
> step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> contributor to this list.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's
> clear
> > > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has
> > no
> > > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
> >
> > Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
> > encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
> > which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
> > given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
> > https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
> > > do with the Foundation's mission.
> >
> > That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
> > idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
> > proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
> > contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  > >
> > > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> > > >
> > > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > > > people to collect and develop educational content:
> > > >
> > > > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> > > >
> > > > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Jim Salsman
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Risker
I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for his
own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the WMF
or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions are
an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.

Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
contributor to this list.

Risker/Anne

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's clear
> > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has
> no
> > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
>
> Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
> encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
> which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
> given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
>
> https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
> https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) 
> wrote:
> >
> >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
> > do with the Foundation's mission.
>
> That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
> idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
> proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
> contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
>
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  >
> > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> > >
> > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > > people to collect and develop educational content:
> > >
> > > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> > >
> > > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jim Salsman
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread James Salsman
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi  wrote:
>
> I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's clear
> here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has no
> origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?

Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:

https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana)  wrote:
>
>... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
> do with the Foundation's mission.

That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.

> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman 
> > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> >
> > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > people to collect and develop educational content:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> >
> > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jim Salsman

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[Wikimedia-l] #1Lib1Ref kicks off Tuesday...Give Wikipedia the 18th birthday gift of a citation

2019-01-16 Thread Jake Orlowitz
Dear Librarians and Library Lovers,

#1Lib1Ref begins Tuesday January 15th!  Imagine a world in which every
librarian added 1 more reference to Wikipedia...

Check out the new campaign homepage at *http://1lib1ref.org*
.  We’ve added new resources for both editing

and organizing

.

Our goal is to make this year’s campaign as inclusive and expansive as
possible. Stay in touch by using the campaign hashtag #1Lib1Ref on social
media. You can reach out to the organizers any time at
1lib1...@lists.wikimedia.org.

Happy birthday Wikipedia, and Happy #1Lib1Ref!


-Jake Orlowitz

The Wikipedia Library, WIkimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Benjamin Ikuta


I also assumed that, and was quite concerned. 



> On Jan 16, 2019, at 1:22 AM, Kevin Payravi  wrote:
> 
> I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's clear
> here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has no
> origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  
>> Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
>> 
>> What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
>> contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
>> Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
>> people to collect and develop educational content:
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/wikimission
>> 
>> The survey results are summarized after form submission.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Jim Salsman
>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
James,

As is fairly typical with your proposals, most of the proposals in the
survey (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
do with the Foundation's mission. If you're going to do a survey, I suggest
actually connecting it to the Foundation's mission, although sadly it seems
that suggestions like this fall on deaf ears.

Dan

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 02:21, James Salsman  wrote:

> Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
>
> What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> people to collect and develop educational content:
>
> http://bit.ly/wikimission
>
> The survey results are summarized after form submission.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Salsman
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Kevin Payravi
I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's clear
here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has no
origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?

Thanks,
Kevin

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
>
> What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> people to collect and develop educational content:
>
> http://bit.ly/wikimission
>
> The survey results are summarized after form submission.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Salsman
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