Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-10 Thread David Goodman 
The idea of an encyclopedia is to provide the information people need or
want  that's appropriate to the format. It would be useful to see what they
want that is appropriate but we do not have -- and also useful to see what
they look for that isn't appropriate for us. Within what's appropriate, I
see no reason why selection of topics should not be driven by reader
interests as much as by editor interests. Our purpose is not to practice
our writing skills for our own benefit.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 6:58 PM Vi to  wrote:

> The idea of a popularity-driven encyclopaedia scares 😱
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno dom 10 mar 2019 alle ore 22:26 Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > Hoi,
> > I have been thinking about it.. There is a place for research but really
> > why can we not have the data that allows us to seek out what people are
> > actually looking for and do not find.. Why can we not promote what proves
> > to be of interest [1] ?
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-marketing-approach-to-what-it-is-that.html
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:13, Leila Zia  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in an earlier thread [1], we will be running reader
> > > surveys across a number of Wikipedia languages to learn about the
> > > reader needs and motivations in these languages as well as some of
> > > their demographic information (and perhaps the correlations between
> > > demographics and user motivations and characteristics).
> > >
> > > If your language community is interested to have statistics on the
> > > distribution of reader gender, age, education, native language, and
> > > geographic region (rural/urban) in your language (and depending on how
> > > much data we collect in your language, perhaps more insights), this is
> > > your chance to indicate interest at:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Characterizing_Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Demographics_and_Wikipedia_use_cases#Interested_languages
> > >
> > > I initially communicated 2019-02-15 as the deadline to sign up. Since
> > > then, we have run a pilot test on enwiki and we are investigating some
> > > of the results to see if any changes in the survey questions are
> > > needed. You have now time until 2019-03-15 to indicate interest.
> > >
> > > As always: this call is primarily a service to your language
> > > community. If you like it, take action on it. If you don't, no action
> > > is needed. :)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Leila
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-February/091762.html
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-10 Thread Vi to 
The idea of a popularity-driven encyclopaedia scares 😱

Vito

Il giorno dom 10 mar 2019 alle ore 22:26 Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hoi,
> I have been thinking about it.. There is a place for research but really
> why can we not have the data that allows us to seek out what people are
> actually looking for and do not find.. Why can we not promote what proves
> to be of interest [1] ?
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> [1]
>
> https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-marketing-approach-to-what-it-is-that.html
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:13, Leila Zia  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As I mentioned in an earlier thread [1], we will be running reader
> > surveys across a number of Wikipedia languages to learn about the
> > reader needs and motivations in these languages as well as some of
> > their demographic information (and perhaps the correlations between
> > demographics and user motivations and characteristics).
> >
> > If your language community is interested to have statistics on the
> > distribution of reader gender, age, education, native language, and
> > geographic region (rural/urban) in your language (and depending on how
> > much data we collect in your language, perhaps more insights), this is
> > your chance to indicate interest at:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Characterizing_Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Demographics_and_Wikipedia_use_cases#Interested_languages
> >
> > I initially communicated 2019-02-15 as the deadline to sign up. Since
> > then, we have run a pilot test on enwiki and we are investigating some
> > of the results to see if any changes in the survey questions are
> > needed. You have now time until 2019-03-15 to indicate interest.
> >
> > As always: this call is primarily a service to your language
> > community. If you like it, take action on it. If you don't, no action
> > is needed. :)
> >
> > Best,
> > Leila
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-February/091762.html
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
Hoi,
I have been thinking about it.. There is a place for research but really
why can we not have the data that allows us to seek out what people are
actually looking for and do not find.. Why can we not promote what proves
to be of interest [1] ?
Thanks,
 GerardM

[1]
https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-marketing-approach-to-what-it-is-that.html

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:13, Leila Zia  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier thread [1], we will be running reader
> surveys across a number of Wikipedia languages to learn about the
> reader needs and motivations in these languages as well as some of
> their demographic information (and perhaps the correlations between
> demographics and user motivations and characteristics).
>
> If your language community is interested to have statistics on the
> distribution of reader gender, age, education, native language, and
> geographic region (rural/urban) in your language (and depending on how
> much data we collect in your language, perhaps more insights), this is
> your chance to indicate interest at:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Characterizing_Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Demographics_and_Wikipedia_use_cases#Interested_languages
>
> I initially communicated 2019-02-15 as the deadline to sign up. Since
> then, we have run a pilot test on enwiki and we are investigating some
> of the results to see if any changes in the survey questions are
> needed. You have now time until 2019-03-15 to indicate interest.
>
> As always: this call is primarily a service to your language
> community. If you like it, take action on it. If you don't, no action
> is needed. :)
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
> [1]
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-February/091762.html
>
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