Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Peter Southwood
David, Would your work be influenced by an analysis of the academic biographies which are most searched for that are not on Wikipedia yet? (assuming that such an targeted analysis was available) Cheers, Peter PS. An analysis that included a check of whether the topic was likely to be notable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread David Goodman
"with popular topics cannibalizing resources." What resources can be cannibalized? The limiting resource in WP is interested people writing, improving, and validating articles. People choose their own topics. This is different from an organization where staff can be directed to work on what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Helene Hahn and Mirjam Stegherr appointed to the WMDE board

2019-03-11 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hi Lukas, Helene and Mirjam , I join Camelia and Itzik in congratulating Wikimedia DE for finding an ingenious and clever solution for giving more gender diversity to the board, and getting those two fantastic new acquisitions to the board in the way! I wish a very warm welcome to Helene and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread John Erling Blad
We should be using a grid for what people are reading about, instead of using countries. That will give a better representation of large countries vs small countries. It will also better reflect local ethnic groups. On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 1:53 PM Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > ‫בתאריך יום א׳, 10

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Ilario valdelli
Hi Leila, I have put my own but the problem we have in Switzerland is connected to the multi-lingualism. Italian, for instance, which is one big language in WIkipedia, is at the opposite a minority in Switzerland. Any study is interesting, but if it could be country-based, it would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Peter, I am also writing about what I am (sometimes mildly) interested in, and I am sure there will be enough materials for me to edit until I die, but you would be surprised to learn how many people have no idea on what they could/should edit, and are happy to take suggestions. Cheers Yaroslav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Helene Hahn and Mirjam Stegherr appointed to the WMDE board

2019-03-11 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
That is great news, Lukas! I'm happy to see that more and more boards diverse their membership. I think it's an important thing and a valuable contribution to the ability of our organizations to see the big picture behind our current movement activities and thinking. *Itzik Edri* Chairperson

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Peter Southwood
Vito, I do not agree with you, but that may be because we edit differently. I write about what I am interested in, and know enough about to be reasonably efficient. There is enough of it to keep me busy indefinitely. I read the topics that interest me and I don't know enough about to write. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Peter Southwood
We edit what we choose to edit. Usually the is things we are interested in and know something about. 2 billion people can go search for something I have no interest in and it will not move me to edit that topic. However, if a fairly substantial number of people look for something I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Leila Zia
Hi all, This is a very interesting discussion. I'm going to fork this thread in the next 2 hours (unless one of you do this in the meantime) for us to continue the conversation around using search as a signal for improving Wikipedia in there. It would be best, for current and future readability,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Edward Saperia
We can consider this an opportunity, e.g. popular media often touches on diverse cultural and political themes, and international sports tournaments give people a reason to learn about different countries. If people find our project this way then so be it, we can just try and make sure those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Reminding is easy, it's analyzing that it's complex. I suspect that editors and readers are probably a little bit smarter than generally assumed. It's quite "obvious" that editors understand what is an encyclopedia, after years. When I make an informal survey, statistically the "smarter"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
‫בתאריך יום א׳, 10 במרץ 2019 ב-23:27 מאת ‪Gerard Meijssen‬‏ <‪ gerard.meijs...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ > Hoi, > I have been thinking about it.. There is a place for research but really > why can we not have the data that allows us to seek out what people are > actually looking for and do not find.. Why

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
‬ > The idea of a popularity-driven encyclopaedia scares  > > I agree, although I'd make it a bit more focused: an encyclopedia that is *only* popularity-driven is indeed scary. It's good to mention this, and not once, but repeatedly. However, providing Wikipedia editors with information about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
I know people in many fields with great technical expertise. people who published articles on Science and Nature basically, and in the end I think they are probably qualified to have an idea of what a good encyclopedia should be. The point is that these people open wiki for topics far away

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Vi to
That's an unstable process on a long-term, with popular topics cannibalizing resources. Top read articles are already about two or three sports, some TV series and three or four music topics. These are also the most popular topics among editors but if you'll start focusing energies on these