Any discussion presumes two parts, so if WGs are nor expected to
participate there, there is not any expectation of discussion with the
community from the start.
The message that is passing there is that the WGs have not the elast
interest in whatever is taking place there. They placed the stuff there
because it's part of a strategy roadmap or something like that.

I wonder when those WGs will interact with the Wikimedian online
communities, or if they will interact at all.

Best,
Paulo

Jennifer Pryor-Summers <jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia
sábado, 20/04/2019 à(s) 18:29:

> Paulo,
>
> Given that the ages you refer to are for the community to feed back to the
> various working groups, any lack of activity there can best be described as
> the discussions being abandoned by the community.  That's not too
> surprising, since very few members of the community have the time, energy,
> experience or expertise to take part in this sort of discussion at this
> level of granularity.  It might have been better to formulate a few "grand
> challenge" type questions but at this level of detail it seems both
> necessary and desirable for the community to leave the decision-making to
> the Foundation -- they have a full-time, paid, expert staff to do this sort
> of thing, as we're hearing in the message that started this very thread.
>
> JPS
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 4:45 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why all these discussions on meta seem to be completely abandoned by the
> > Strategy Work Groups? -
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Roles_%26_Responsibilities
> > Wasn't it supposed to exist some interaction over there?
> > Who is the community talking to?
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> > Kelsi Stine-Rowe <kstiner...@wikimedia.org> escreveu no dia sexta,
> > 19/04/2019 à(s) 17:04:
> >
> > > Hello Wikimedians!
> > >
> > > As part of the roll out for community conversations [1] in our movement
> > > strategy [2], I am pleased to share with you that a team of Community
> > > Strategy Liaisons have been hired and begun their new role.
> > >
> > > Community Strategy Liaisons [3] are part-time contractors who lead
> > outreach
> > > and discussion about movement strategy among some of our largest
> language
> > > groups. Their time is spent connecting with Wikimedians on-wiki, in
> > social
> > > media channels, over conference calls, and at in-person meetups to help
> > > explain the movement strategy process and to facilitate discussion on
> the
> > > content.
> > >
> > > This role is in parallel to the volunteer Organizational Strategy
> > Liaisons,
> > > which lead discussions within their organized groups and affiliates
> about
> > > movement strategy. You can find out more about these two groups on our
> > meta
> > > page [4].
> > >
> > > Each of the Community Strategy Liaisons dedicates the bulk of their
> > > contracted time to their dedicated language group. They have formal
> > > responsibilities related to reporting and discussion summaries, as well
> > as
> > > communicating back to their language communities the results of their
> > work.
> > >
> > > Given the importance of having broad reach and support across the
> > > community, they will also provide some support to other language
> > > communities from their geographic region. We will also soon be inviting
> > > volunteers from language communities not represented by the team below
> to
> > > sign up as Strategy Liaisons for their projects.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, here is the team!
> > >
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    Anass Sedrati [5] is our Strategy Liaison for Arabic. His primary
> > >    responsibilities are to engage the Arabic speaking language
> community
> > >    across Wikimedia projects in discussions around movement strategy.
> He
> > > will
> > >    also support outreach to the Swedish, Berber, and Kurdish language
> > >    communities, as well as with the French community until an official
> > >    Strategy Liaison is hired for this role.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    Rupika Sharma [6] is our Strategy Liaison for Hindi. Her primary
> > >    responsibilities are to engage the Hindi speaking language community
> > > across
> > >    Wikimedia projects in discussions around movement strategy. She will
> > > also
> > >    support outreach to other Indic language communities active on
> > > Wikimedia.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    Gereon Kalkuhl [7] is our Strategy Liaison for German. His primary
> > >    responsibilities are to engage the German speaking language
> community
> > >    across Wikimedia projects in discussions around movement strategy.
> He
> > > will
> > >    also support outreach to the Dutch language community.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    Liang-chih Shang-Kuan [8] is our Strategy Liaison for Mandarin. His
> > >    primary responsibilities are to engage the Mandarin speaking
> language
> > >    community across Wikimedia projects in discussions around movement
> > >    strategy. He will also support outreach to other language
> communities
> > >    active in east Asia, southeast Asia, and the broader pacific region.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    Lucas Teles [9] is our Strategy Liaison for Portuguese. His primary
> > >    responsibilities are to engage the Portuguese language community
> > across
> > >    Wikimedia projects in discussions around movement strategy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    Francesc Fort [10] is our Strategy Liaison for Spanish. His primary
> > >    responsibilities are to engage the Spanish language community across
> > >    Wikimedia projects in discussions around movement strategy. He will
> > also
> > >    support outreach to other language communities that predominate
> within
> > >    Spain as well as to the Italian community.
> > >
> > >
> > > As a final note, we are still looking to hire candidates in French,
> > Farsi,
> > > and Russian, though other candidates may join the team for additional
> > > languages. You can find out about the latest composition of the team on
> > > meta and connect with the contractor for your language at any time on
> > their
> > > talk pages.
> > >
> > > Community conversations are your chance to make your voice heard on
> > > movement strategy. Thank you for joining us!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Kelsi
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Participate
> > >
> > > [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
> > >
> > > [3]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/People/Community_Strategy_Liaisons
> > >
> > > [4]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/People
> > >
> > > [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ASedrati_(WMF)
> > >
> > > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:RSharma_(WMF)
> > >
> > > [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gereon_Kalkuhl_(WMF)
> > >
> > > [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LShangkuan_(WMF)
> > >
> > > [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LTeles_(WMF)
> > >
> > > [10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FFort_(WMF)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Kelsi Stine-Rowe
> > >
> > > Community Relations Specialist, Movement Strategy
> > >
> > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
> > >
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> > the
> > > sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment."
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