Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread James Heilman
The offline apps have also been downloaded 100 of thousands of times mostly from people in LMIC. Wikipedia Zero faced the controversial about net neutrality. And thus we were legally banned from continuing in India. Douglas Scott and I discussed the effects of the program in South Africa. Have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread James Salsman
Kul, Would you please send a few or more paragraph description of the accomplishments and costs of the Wikipedia Zero program to the wikimedia-l list? I also would love to see it back. The concerns about zero rating service abuse are real, but they did not apply to WZ no matter how many people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Coming up: A Knowlege Equity Calendar

2019-12-01 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
And for those who didn't see it on Social Media: The first story is about Bojan, who uses Wikimedia as a tool to promote LGBT rights in the homophobic, conservative context of Serbia. On Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_Equity_Calendar/1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising needs your help

2019-12-01 Thread James Salsman
As is my custom, I have answered the call for fundraising message; this time with 14 alternatives to the $3 cup of coffee: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising%2F2019-20_Fundraising_ideas#Story_suggestion_3 I am confident this approach will leave all future fundraisers in the dust. I hope

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France new Board members

2019-12-01 Thread Nadine Le Lirzin via Wikimedia-l
Hi all, On November 16th, Wikimédia France held its annual General Assembly and partialy renewed its Board. We are particularly glad and proud of announcing that for the first time our chapter has reserved a seat for a candidate appointed by the community. Here is a brief presentation of the

[Wikimedia-l] World AIDS Day current events page

2019-12-01 Thread Pharos
I'd like to share our current events page collaboration, covering Word AIDS Day, which is today, December 1,with a compendium of events worldwide : https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Event:World_AIDS_Day_2019 I encourage anyone interested to edit and expand and update this page, and to make it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread Gabriel Thullen
Top-down and Bottom-up: Wikipedia relies on volunteers and can really be considered to be a "bottom-up" encyclopedia project, where the readers can also add content and become part of the project. I consider that the Kiwix offline Wikipedia is also very democratic in that anyone can copy and share

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Peter we were celebrated when we received the Erasmus prize. It was a joyous occasion and a clip was shown with children from Soweto explaining what Wikipedia Zero meant for them. At the time we DID have statistics on growth from Africa. We did know what growth was attributable to Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread Peter Southwood
Gerhard, I am also interested in what the impact of Wikipedia Zero was, but it is not obvious to me how it would be measured. The board members are unlikely to have personally researched this, but might know if there is or was a project and if so what they are or were trying to measure.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread
On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 11:09, Gerard Meijssen wrote: ... > What I have noticed is that once consensus has been reached, we do not want > to be confronted with the consequences of our actions. Wikipedia Zero has > damaged our outreach and what the BBC info reminds us of is that Internet, > the cost

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Remember Wikipedia Zero.. Where is the research about the effects of its demise?

2019-12-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Lodewijk, What I asked for is: do we understand what the impact was of the Wikipedia Zero project. In the answer of James, a board member of the WMF someone who could know, there is nothing that answers that question. All the answer does is deflect the question to something else. A notion that it