Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dear Wikimedia, With Thanks, Donors.

2019-12-12 Thread Peter Southwood
I have also been told that Wikipedia is closing down because it is out of money. Again. Happens every year about this time. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Seddon Sent: 12 December 2019 20:39 To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Multiple responses: On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:07 AM Juergen Fenn wrote: > Am 12.12.19 um 02:25 Uhr schrieb Strainu: > > There is also a > > question of opportunity: with less and less desktop users, it just > > makes more sense to invest in the mobile experience > > Most authors still use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Todd Allen
I'm not using my cell phone. I'm using an actual computer with a 28" monitor. There's really no excuse, in web design, for something aside from the content to absolutely overwhelm the whole monitor on a first view. That robot image should be about a third of its size. Todd On Thu, Dec 12, 2019

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
Try holding your cellphone vertically. tor. 12. des. 2019, 22.38 skrev Todd Allen : > Erm, I remember what websites looked like in 1996. I even made some then. > It looks nothing like that. > > On the other hand, on the site you linked to? The first thing I see is an > absolutely huge photo of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Todd Allen
Erm, I remember what websites looked like in 1996. I even made some then. It looks nothing like that. On the other hand, on the site you linked to? The first thing I see is an absolutely huge photo of a robot looking at me. I have to scroll down past that to get to the actual meat, the text

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Pine W
I'm thinking out loud here. Are there any estimates of would be required in terms of time (both staff time and community time) and money to make templates and other tools be much easier to globalize across wikis and across skins? I'm looking for an answer that is more specific than "a lot", but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 12 בדצמ׳ 2019 ב-16:54 מאת ‪Samuel Klein‬‏ <‪ meta...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ > Nice find, thanks for sharing! > > Amir: yes, we need global templates -- a framework for them and incremental > way editors and tools can migrate to that. What's the latest overview of > where that work sits?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 12 בדצמ׳ 2019 ב-16:54 מאת ‪Samuel Klein‬‏ <‪ meta...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ > Nice find, thanks for sharing! > > Amir: yes, we need global templates -- a framework for them and incremental > way editors and tools can migrate to that. What's the latest overview of > where that work sits?

[Wikimedia-l] Dear Wikimedia, With Thanks, Donors.

2019-12-12 Thread Joseph Seddon
Millions of people donate to our projects because we have in some way bettered their life. They don't just give money, they take the time to say thank you as well. In their tens of thousands. . To brighten your day a little, just read a handful of some of these notes of thanks:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread James Salsman
We are constantly fighting to keep aesthetics from interfering with usability, for example by people using lower-contrast, more subjectively appealing typography, such as quoting text in green on white, or using lower contrast backgrounds of any color. Both are hard even for people with normal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 12.12.19 um 02:25 Uhr schrieb Strainu: > There is also a > question of opportunity: with less and less desktop users, it just > makes more sense to invest in the mobile experience Most authors still use desktop computers for writing articles or doing maintenance work. Mobile is for readers.

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] December 18, 2019 at 9:30 AM PST, 17:30 UTC

2019-12-12 Thread Janna Layton
Hello everyone, The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed on Wednesday, December 18, at 9:30 AM PST/17:30 UTC. We’ll have a presentation from Fabian Suchanek on incomplete knowledge bases and one from Brian Keegan about Wikipedia and the 2016 US Presidential election. YouTube stream:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Samuel Klein
Nice find, thanks for sharing! Amir: yes, we need global templates -- a framework for them and incremental way editors and tools can migrate to that. What's the latest overview of where that work sits? What can we all do to help?  On Thu., Dec. 12, 2019, 8:37 a.m. John Erling Blad,

[Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations synthesis, movement conversations starting in January, and more

2019-12-12 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hi everyone, I wanted to share an overview of what’s been happening in movement strategy and where things are at with the recommendations. == Synthesizing the recommendations, writing group meeting == The work to refine the recommendations is advancing well. Members of the writing group [1] came

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
Seems like Marius Hauken delivered the thesis in 2012.[1] A short video is available on YouTube.[2] He got several awards, at most three in one week. [3] A few of them are listed here.[4][5] [1] Hauken, Marius Aa., and Kunst- Og Designhøgskolen I Bergen. Same Shit, Different Wrapping (2012): Ca

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
I wrote 1996 in the subject field because that was the year I made a wikisite with tabbed interface, and experimented with a paper-like design in Xt. More or less what designers today would call a material design. The present design is what I would call Monobook 2.0, and that imply a 15 year old

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
Thank you, but discussing how your site or any other specific site looked like in some year is an distraction. On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:30 PM Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi John! > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:47:21 +0100 > John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Could we please update them with a slightly more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
I know about the work on changing the interactions, but this is about the design issue. All of the skins are horribly outdated, sorry to those that made them, but I guess they already know. What I would really like is a new fully responsive skin, using the concepts defined by w3, that also look

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi John! On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:47:21 +0100 John Erling Blad wrote: > Could we please update them with a slightly more up-to-date skin? > > Take a look at our Norwegian competitor in the lexicon field. > https://snl.no/kunstig_intelligens > I took a look at