Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-20 Thread Aron Manning
The following views are mine. I'm not affiliated with either the Foundation or those speaking in the name of the communities. This is a volunteer's opinion. On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 04:24, Pine W wrote: > Hi Leila and Todd, thanks for the constructive comments. > > I think that global consensus

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations released, join the conversation

2020-01-20 Thread Todd Allen
Katherine, These are very disappointing. It does not seem like a bit of the feedback on earlier versions was taken into consideration at all. Can we expect anything we say to matter this time around, or will we once again be talking to the wall? Todd On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, 8:24 PM Katherine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Leila and Todd, thanks for the constructive comments. I think that global consensus is possible, but it's challenging. I remain concerned about the current timeline for this strategy process. I think that after initial community discussions, a phased approach over a period of years for

[Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations released, join the conversation

2020-01-20 Thread Katherine Maher
Dear all, I wanted to share some news with you: the first version of the movement strategy recommendations document has been published on Meta [1]. On behalf of the movement strategy working groups and recommendation writers, I am honored to present them to you. We ask you to please take a moment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-20 Thread Todd Allen
That's...really not how this works. We don't say "It's hard to gain consensus, so screw it, we're going ahead anyway." If you can't gain consensus for what you're doing, then you should stop doing it. Yes, consensus for major changes is hard. That doesn't mean it is not required or should be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
I am not interested when I do no have a clue about the scope Op ma 20 jan. 2020 15:09 schreef Ilario Valdelli : > That can be an output of the conference. Is not it? > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > How do you define diversity? > > Thanks, > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-20 Thread Nathan
Just want to reinforce some other comments -- Pine... WMF employees, many of whom gave up subscribing to this list long ago, are real people and this is their livelihood. Suggestions to start firing people add no value to the discussion and, if anything, detract from the credibility of the other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-20 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Mmm... How can such a relevant topic be discussed oficially at Facebook? This is, by far, the worst way to do it. 2020 urt. 20 9:48 AM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Peter Southwood ): Thanks for the heads-up, Mike, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Ilario Valdelli
That can be an output of the conference. Is not it? On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 13:57 Gerard Meijssen, wrote: > Hoi, > How do you define diversity? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > > > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, How do you define diversity? Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 13:44, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I will be > posting it to multiple mailing lists. > > Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Community survey: Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Jon Harald Søby
Hi all, and apologies if you receive this email several times – I will be posting it to multiple mailing lists. Wikimedia Norge would like to organize a regional Wikimedia Diversity Conference in 2020 for Europe, with the hope of many other regional conferences on the same topic being held in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-20 Thread Peter Southwood
Thanks for the heads-up, Mike, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Peel Sent: 20 January 2020 00:29 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia This meta RfC might be of interest: