Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Peter Southwood
I would agree with this in principle. From what I have seen so far, it looks 
like either Snøhetta have not done their homework on how we operate, or they 
have the arrogance of PR agencies, don't care, and plan to spin their way 
through with smoke and mirrors, flashy pages with lots of buzz, little content 
and all the dialogue they can't avoid. Maybe I am wrong, and they have just 
been badly briefed. Who can tell from the outside? Block evasion does not bode 
well for their understanding of the community.
Cheers, 
Peter

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Hello,

First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed personally at
you, Essie.

Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the
community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of resources
(all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project is a
good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of the
Wikiverse, and there are a some problems with WMF rebranding itself as
the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities and
affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance problems, and
occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't think that
the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve Snøhetta
given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've been
unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past few
months.

I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this program
in its current form.

Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending associated
with it pending a Meta RfC regarding the community's view on whether
this project should continue. If the community wants a branding
project to continue, I would let the community decide on the project's
parameters and budget, and what if any consultant should be involved.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Turkic Languages User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Rajeeb Dutta
Congratulations to each and everyone who made this happen.
All my best wishes.

Best Regards,
Rajeeb.
(U: Marajozkee)
(Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity) 

> On 13-Mar-2020, at 10:07 PM, Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedians of Turkic Languages User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group aims to promote and participate in the projects offered by
> the Wikimedia Foundation and to organize the Turkic community. One of its
> core missions is to aid and encourage people to collect, develop and
> disseminate knowledge and other educational, cultural and historic content
> in the public domain or other licenses that allows everyone to freely use
> the knowledge, and to distribute and modify said content for free. Also, a
> main goal is to develop Wikimedia projects in Turkic languages, as well as
> to help and encourage Turkic-speaking users and communities.
> 
> 
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_of_Turkic_Languages_User_Group
> 
> [2]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Community User Group CEE Spring

2020-03-13 Thread Rajeeb Dutta
Congratulations to each and everyone who made this happen.
All my best wishes.

Best Regards,
Rajeeb.
(U: Marajozkee)
(Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity) 

> On 13-Mar-2020, at 10:25 PM, Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedia Community User Group CEE Spring [2] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group is an annual event organised by Wikimedians and
> Wikipedians who joined the Central and Eastern Europe collaboration with an
> aim to support article creation about every country in the region on every
> Wikipedia. Wikimedia CEE Spring aims to join local forces of free knowledge
> to accumulate and distribute information about history, culture, traditions
> and people in every corner of the region to support mutual acknowledgement
> and understanding and to increase the quantity and quality of free
> knowledge available about the CEE region globally.
> 
> 
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_CEE_Spring
> 
> [2]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Dennis During
I, for one, welcome Wikipedia Dictionary, Wikipedia Source, Wikipedia
Species, Wikipedia Commons.

Why is it, though, that others go the other way? like American Airlines
subordinating to AMR, Google to Alphabet.  Citibank went in a direction the
opposite of the way that WMF is going, with Citi becoming a prefix with
multiple uses.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:48 PM Pine W  wrote:

> Although Mike and I have differences of opinion about centralizing on
> the "Wikipedia" brand, one way in which I agree with Mike is that
> there are ways to have branding discussions that are not themselves
> controversial. Even if consensus was not reached, I for one would be
> more accepting of the process.
>
> Some departments in WMF seem to be more on board with regards to
> process than others. In particular, I think that Audiences these days
> generally does a good job, and also I like Tech News.
>
> Outside of WMF, the Wikidata team at WMDE produces very informative
> newsletters each week. They seem to do good work without spending
> money on outside consultants.
>
> So, why all of these issues in WMF Communications? I don't get it.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
We just had an RfC on Meta which gave 90% opposes. I do not see how any
serious rebranding discussions could still be happening after this result
has become apparent. For me personally, the question is closed at least for
several years.

Best
Yaroslav

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 8:48 PM Pine W  wrote:

> Although Mike and I have differences of opinion about centralizing on
> the "Wikipedia" brand, one way in which I agree with Mike is that
> there are ways to have branding discussions that are not themselves
> controversial. Even if consensus was not reached, I for one would be
> more accepting of the process.
>
> Some departments in WMF seem to be more on board with regards to
> process than others. In particular, I think that Audiences these days
> generally does a good job, and also I like Tech News.
>
> Outside of WMF, the Wikidata team at WMDE produces very informative
> newsletters each week. They seem to do good work without spending
> money on outside consultants.
>
> So, why all of these issues in WMF Communications? I don't get it.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Pine W
Although Mike and I have differences of opinion about centralizing on
the "Wikipedia" brand, one way in which I agree with Mike is that
there are ways to have branding discussions that are not themselves
controversial. Even if consensus was not reached, I for one would be
more accepting of the process.

Some departments in WMF seem to be more on board with regards to
process than others. In particular, I think that Audiences these days
generally does a good job, and also I like Tech News.

Outside of WMF, the Wikidata team at WMDE produces very informative
newsletters each week. They seem to do good work without spending
money on outside consultants.

So, why all of these issues in WMF Communications? I don't get it.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all,

I’m on the other side of things - I think it would be good to simplify our 
branding, and ‘Wikipedia’ is the obvious brand to go with. I’d love to see us 
talking about ‘Wikipedia Data’, and ‘Wikipedia Media, etc. (maybe with obvious 
cross-wiki tabs at the top of the projects!), without the confusion of 
‘Wikileaks’, ‘Wikia’, etc. I don’t think that a yes/no Meta RfC on this project 
right now would help, as there would be an obvious knee-jerk reaction.

I also don’t think that the ‘brandingwikipedia’ website helps, though. If you 
want to ask the general public about Wikipedia branding, it makes sense - you 
can just click ‘like’ to the suggested tags and maybe leave a comment, and 
that’s it. However, that’s not how the Wikimedia community works, and that’s 
the population that you need to convince.

If you want this to work, then I think there’s two ways to go: start 
discussions on-wiki about the pros and cons, provide data in response to 
questions and emotional responses, and help the community reach a consensus 
with you about the way forward; or just go ahead and make the change, weather 
the reactions, and see what happens. I suspect only one of those approaches 
would work in the long-run, but either would be better than having off-wiki 
processes and then claiming that they have consensus. Of course, you can try an 
approach with one Wikimedia project at a time, and see how it goes.

Thanks,
Mike

> On 13 Mar 2020, at 18:12, Pine W  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed personally at
> you, Essie.
> 
> Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the
> community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of resources
> (all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project is a
> good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of the
> Wikiverse, and there are a some problems with WMF rebranding itself as
> the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities and
> affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance problems, and
> occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't think that
> the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve Snøhetta
> given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've been
> unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past few
> months.
> 
> I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this program
> in its current form.
> 
> Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending associated
> with it pending a Meta RfC regarding the community's view on whether
> this project should continue. If the community wants a branding
> project to continue, I would let the community decide on the project's
> parameters and budget, and what if any consultant should be involved.
> 
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikigrannies User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Rajeeb Dutta
Congratulations to each and everyone!!

Best Regards,
Rajeeb.
(U: Marajozkee)
(Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity) 

> On 13-Mar-2020, at 11:43 PM, Oby Ezeilo  wrote:
> 
> Wonderfully beautiful拾
> 
>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 7:00 pm Diane Ranville, 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This sounds awesome!
>> Congrannylations!
>> 
>> (sorry for the bad joke, I actually think this is a great project and wish
>> you all the best!!)
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 5:42 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
>> rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
>>> [1] Wikigrannies User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims
>>> to promote the social adaptation of the elderly, their involvement in
>>> Wikimedia projects. to popularize Wikiprojects among rural residents
>> with a
>>> limited circle of contacts, and their involvement in Wikiprojects.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
>>> 
>>> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikigrannies_User_Group
>>> 
>>> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikigrannies_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians for Sustainable Development

2020-03-13 Thread Rajeeb Dutta
It’s my honour and privilege to be a part of such noble initiative.  

Best Regards,
Rajeeb.
(U: Marajozkee)
(Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity) 

> On 13-Mar-2020, at 10:29 PM, Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedians for Sustainable Development [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The group aims to work on all topics related to sustainable development,
> including in particular the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.
> It aims to partner with organizations that are actively working towards a
> world with sustainable development whether they are NGOs, academic
> institutions, public bodies of different levels or even perhaps companies
> in order to create, collect and curate knowledge.
> 
> 
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_for_Sustainable_Development
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikigrannies User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Oby Ezeilo
Wonderfully beautiful拾

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 7:00 pm Diane Ranville, 
wrote:

> This sounds awesome!
> Congrannylations!
>
> (sorry for the bad joke, I actually think this is a great project and wish
> you all the best!!)
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 5:42 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
> rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> > [1] Wikigrannies User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims
> > to promote the social adaptation of the elderly, their involvement in
> > Wikimedia projects. to popularize Wikiprojects among rural residents
> with a
> > limited circle of contacts, and their involvement in Wikiprojects.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> >
> > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >
> >
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikigrannies_User_Group
> >
> > [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikigrannies_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Rajeeb Dutta
Congratulations!!

Best Regards,
Rajeeb.
(U: Marajozkee)
(Sent from my iPhone pardon the brevity) 

> On 13-Mar-2020, at 11:11 PM, Shlomi Fish  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:37:06 -0700
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
>> [1] Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
>> The group aims to promote Wikimedia projects to people living in,
>> interested in or connected to Myanmar and also its relations/connections to
>> the neighboring countries and around the world.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>> 
> 
> Congratulations!
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Shlomi
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
>> 
>> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
>> 
>> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
>> 
>> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Pine W
Hello,

First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed personally at
you, Essie.

Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the
community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of resources
(all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project is a
good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of the
Wikiverse, and there are a some problems with WMF rebranding itself as
the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities and
affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance problems, and
occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't think that
the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve Snøhetta
given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've been
unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past few
months.

I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this program
in its current form.

Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending associated
with it pending a Meta RfC regarding the community's view on whether
this project should continue. If the community wants a branding
project to continue, I would let the community decide on the project's
parameters and budget, and what if any consultant should be involved.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikigrannies User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Diane Ranville
This sounds awesome!
Congrannylations!

(sorry for the bad joke, I actually think this is a great project and wish
you all the best!!)

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 5:42 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
>
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikigrannies User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims
> to promote the social adaptation of the elderly, their involvement in
> Wikimedia projects. to popularize Wikiprojects among rural residents with a
> limited circle of contacts, and their involvement in Wikiprojects.
>
>
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
>
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikigrannies_User_Group
>
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikigrannies_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

2020-03-13 Thread Zana Strkovska
The same video translated on Macedonian language is on national television
in my country several days already.
Regards,
Zana

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 19:30 James Heilman,  wrote:

> I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
> open licenses since since Feb 2020.
>
> I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
> collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
>
> They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
> keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> >  Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> > we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> > and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> > office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> > Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> > general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some
> time.
> >
> > In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> > probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> > pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> > when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> > to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> > Iran and South Korea).
> >
> > They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> > finally reach out.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Alessandro
> >
> > Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> > a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
> >
> >  WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
> >
> >   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
> >
> > Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> > affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> > such material, as I have done, here:
> >
> >   https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
> >
> > [much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
> > https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
> >
> > --
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> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:37:06 -0700
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The group aims to promote Wikimedia projects to people living in,
> interested in or connected to Myanmar and also its relations/connections to
> the neighboring countries and around the world.
> 
> 
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations!

Regards,

Shlomi

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
> 
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

2020-03-13 Thread Damon Sicore
Not to mention a lost opportunity for the world.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM James Heilman  wrote:

> I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
> open licenses since since Feb 2020.
>
> I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
> collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
>
> They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
> keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> >  Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> > we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> > and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> > office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> > Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> > general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some
> time.
> >
> > In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> > probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> > pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> > when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> > to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> > Iran and South Korea).
> >
> > They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> > finally reach out.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Alessandro
> >
> > Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> > a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
> >
> >  WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
> >
> >   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
> >
> > Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> > affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> > such material, as I have done, here:
> >
> >   https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
> >
> > [much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
> > https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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[Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Essie Zar
Hello Everyone,

There are some new updates and opportunities to engage with the Brand
project. Thank you to Lodewijk for bringing some attention to a few of
these opportunities. We were actively drafting this update for this group
when your email went out.

As Zack indicated in September,[1] we have been regularly discussing with
the members of the brand network (which people can still join )[2] ideas
around an evolved brand system with "Wikipedia" as a center point. To
assist in this evolution of the movement brand, we chose to partner with
Snøhetta,[3] an internationally renowned design firm known for working on
complex and multi-stakeholder projects like the modern Library of
Alexandria (Bibliotheca Alexandrina) and the 9/11 Memorial in New York
City. Snøhetta has been tasked with figuring out precisely what this
improved brand system will look like. They will release a proposed naming
convention for movement-wide feedback in April, and a proposed design for
movement-wide feedback in May. [4] The result of this process will be a new
branding system that will be opt-in for affiliates.

In order to have enough knowledge and context to arrive at these proposals,
Snøhetta is reviewing feedback from the many points at which it has already
been given, and has created a process with built-in community involvement. The
process thus far has included workshops in Norway, India and online with 97
volunteers from the brand network (movement affiliates, volunteers,
foundation staff, and board members) reflecting 41 nations. At the
workshops, community participants were asked to break into small groups to
answer the question "Who are we?". Through these workshops, groups
developed rich concepts* that they think best represent who we are as a
movement.

Now, we would like to invite you to review the 23 concepts that came out of
the community workshops by “liking” and providing feedback on the one(s)
you think best represent the Wikimedia movement. You can click on any
concept to see an expanded explanation and photos of the actual concepts
built or selected by workshop participants.

Approximate time to complete this exercise is around 10-15 min.

https://brandingwikipedia.org/concepts/

Feel free to leave feedback directly on Snøhetta’s website, on the project
talk page on Meta [5], or on the Brand Network [2], which will also be
available on Meta starting next month.

Snøhetta will use the feedback from the concepts to develop one single
concept to act as a tool that will help guide the proposals around naming
(expected for April) and around design (expected around May). They are
scheduled to begin reviewing feedback on Tuesday, 17 March, but can
continue taking feedback for a few more days if there is interest.

We also invite you to share what free knowledge means to you in Snøhetta's
open exercise. Please take a moment and share your thoughts in any of the
channels mentioned.

https://brandingwikipedia.org/2020/02/17/what-does-free-knowledge-mean-to-you/

Finally, we want to acknowledge that we have feedback, from various points
in this process so far, from several communities and in several areas of
the wikis, including Meta. We understand that some people believe that we
don’t need this project. Our shared vision is for every single human being
to freely share in the sum of all knowledge -- and that means billions of
people. There are many people and cultures we still need to reach and
include. We will need a strong well known brand to achieve the goals the
movement has set for itself and we have a lot of work to do to get us there.

Want to learn more? Check out the project hub at brandingwikipedia.org and
the project page on Meta [5]. Participate in discussions on the project
talk page, or by joining the Brand Network [2]. Also feel free to drop us a
note at brandproj...@wikimedia.org if you have questions.

Thanks!

Essie Zar

(from the movement brand identity project team)



[1]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-September/093382.html

[2] https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediabrandnetwork/

[3] https://snohetta.com/

[4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#Process

[5]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project

* What is a concept?
A tool making the complex more understandable.

Concepts make complex subjects more understandable. They manage to
consolidate vast amounts of facts, data and details into a singular
definition in its context. By creating concepts we allow ourselves to
acknowledge the complexity yet dare to step away from differences and look
for similarities that binds it all together.


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Brand Manager
Wikimedia Foundation 
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians for Sustainable Development

2020-03-13 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Hi everyone!



I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] Wikimedians for Sustainable Development [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
The group aims to work on all topics related to sustainable development,
including in particular the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.
It aims to partner with organizations that are actively working towards a
world with sustainable development whether they are NGOs, academic
institutions, public bodies of different levels or even perhaps companies
in order to create, collect and curate knowledge.



Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!



Regards,

Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

Chair, Affiliations Committee



[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_for_Sustainable_Development

[2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_for_Sustainable_Development
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Community User Group CEE Spring

2020-03-13 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Hi everyone!



I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] Wikimedia Community User Group CEE Spring [2] as a Wikimedia User
Group. The group is an annual event organised by Wikimedians and
Wikipedians who joined the Central and Eastern Europe collaboration with an
aim to support article creation about every country in the region on every
Wikipedia. Wikimedia CEE Spring aims to join local forces of free knowledge
to accumulate and distribute information about history, culture, traditions
and people in every corner of the region to support mutual acknowledgement
and understanding and to increase the quantity and quality of free
knowledge available about the CEE region globally.



Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!



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[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_CEE_Spring

[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_CEE_Spring
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of United Arab Emirates User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Hi everyone!



I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] Wikimedians of United Arab Emirates User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
Group. The group aims to support people interested in various topics
related with United Arab Emirates, across all Wikimedia projects in all
languages. And also — group for all Wikimedians who live in the region.



Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!



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[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_of_United_Arab_Emirates_User_Group

[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_United_Arab_Emirates_User_Group
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikigrannies User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Hi everyone!



I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] Wikigrannies User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims
to promote the social adaptation of the elderly, their involvement in
Wikimedia projects. to popularize Wikiprojects among rural residents with a
limited circle of contacts, and their involvement in Wikiprojects.



Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!



Regards,

Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

Chair, Affiliations Committee



[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikigrannies_User_Group

[2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikigrannies_User_Group
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Turkic Languages User Group

2020-03-13 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Hi everyone!



I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] Wikimedians of Turkic Languages User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
Group. The group aims to promote and participate in the projects offered by
the Wikimedia Foundation and to organize the Turkic community. One of its
core missions is to aid and encourage people to collect, develop and
disseminate knowledge and other educational, cultural and historic content
in the public domain or other licenses that allows everyone to freely use
the knowledge, and to distribute and modify said content for free. Also, a
main goal is to develop Wikimedia projects in Turkic languages, as well as
to help and encourage Turkic-speaking users and communities.



Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!



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[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedians_of_Turkic_Languages_User_Group

[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Turkic_Languages_User_Group
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