Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
What you prove is that we maintain a static artifact that does improve with
time. What you prove with your reply is that you do not care for the
mission, for the quality of Wikipedia but only care to maintain a status
quo that is no longer good enough.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 23:16, Todd Allen  wrote:

> There certainly is a lot to reflect on, isn't there?
>
> Maybe you can do some reflecting on the fact that those "long-time
> contributors" were, in many cases, working on Wikipedia before most people
> had ever even heard of it (when I first started working on it, "What's
> Wikipedia?" would be a question I was often asked if I'd mention it;
> haven't heard that for a while though), and have been working to build,
> maintain, and improve it ever since. So maybe there's a reason we care a
> great deal about it.
>
> And maybe there's a good reason to listen to the people who literally built
> the thing, made it into what it is, and still day to day keep it going.
> Maybe we know what we're doing. I think we rather proved it.
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:00 PM Gerard Meijssen  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > When I read something like this, it takes me aback. Yes, people may have
> an
> > opinion, they may even express it and they even may be wrong. Who cares
> > really. There is enough to dislike in branding, we are not cattle. From a
> > marketing perspective there may be a point. The point would be to bring
> all
> > that we do together, bring it together so that what it is we are and what
> > is we do better understood by an audience, an audience that we want to
> > entice to like us enough to become part of our Wikimedia movement.
> >
> > The problem is that the "long time contributors" don't like change. They
> > have invested so much in whatever it is they think makes our projects
> work
> > that they do not see the forest from the trees. They forget what our
> > primary aim, is and fail to appreciate that all conventions are there to
> > support the aim of sharing in the sum of all knowledge. This week
> Wikipedia
> > administrators killed off the ListeriaBot because it defied a
> convention. A
> > convention that they could not explain to me does harm to our public. A
> > convention that exists because it was conceded to English Wikipedia that
> > they could have non free images exclusive to its project. When challenged
> > that they do not care about Wikipedia's quality, that manually maintained
> > lists average out to be not as well maintained as Listeria list there was
> > silence. They did not care because it did not address their need that
> their
> > convention had to prevail.
> >
> > "Long time contributors", administrators are the ones expecting others to
> > share their sentiment about everything what is bad. I don't. Katherine
> > Maher brought an end to a period of stagnation. My impression is that at
> > the Wikimedia Foundation things look up. I love it that the WMF wants to
> > expand and I totally agree that English Wikipedia, its best known
> product,
> > the brand that is known by many is exactly what is not bringing us
> > together.
> >
> > I prefer people like Mackenzie Lemieux or Jess Wade any time over the
> "long
> > time contributors".. PS with a blog going back 15 years, with 2,606,298
> > edits I qualify as a long time contributor..
> >
> > So if your opinions are as good as the reflections you have on the
> quality
> > of Wikipedia, I do not care about your opinions. By my calculations there
> > is on average error rate of 4% in lists because of false friends. Magnus
> > blogged how manually maintained list are anything but well maintained
> > lists. The key point of branding in the marketing sense is that it is to
> > bring out the best of what is on offer.
> >
> > The basis of what we have on offer is in what we aim to achieve and, for
> me
> > our aim is to share in the sum of the knowledge that is available to us.
> > Everything that is in its way of achieving this needs reflection and imho
> > there is a lot to reflect.
> > Thanks,
> >   GerardM
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 18:59, MZMcBride  wrote:
> >
> > > David Gerard wrote:
> > > >
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes/2018-11-9,10,11#Branding
> > > >
> > > >So this has been dictated from above - the "community consultation" is
> > > >window dressing for a decision that's long been made.
> > > >
> > > >Hence the nonsensical claims of massive community support by fiddling
> > > >the numbers, employing literal wiki spammers to do the consulting,
> > > >etc.
> > >
> > > Wikimedia Foundation Inc. is bad. There are dozens of examples
> > > illustrating why this is true, but this forcible rebranding is a
> > > particularly good demonstration of the rot.
> > >
> > > The people most directly responsible here are Katherine Maher and
> Heather
> > > Walls. They're both subscribed to this mailing list, they both
> understand
> > > that this decision would upset long-time 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-15 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Denny, and Wikimedians,

How to maintain the diversity of contributions, edits, individual knowledge
generators / writers, et al, on the human side of Wikipedia, by many
different language communities if these were to grow, I wonder? Is this
already part of your proposal, which I haven't come across yet? Thank you
for this great development!

Cheers,
Scott



On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:49 PM Denny Vrandečić  wrote:

> Elevator pitch:
>
> Many Wikipedia language editions have large gaps in knowledge. We want to
> close these gaps by allowing to create and maintain content in one place
> and allow the Wikipedias to use this content if they choose so, instead of
> doing that in each of the Wikipedia language editions individually. This
> will allow more people to access and create more knowledge in more
> languages in the Wikipedias.
>
> In order to do this, we need to represent the content in a way that can be
> translated to many different natural languages with high fidelity. We do
> this by introducing a new project that allows to create, maintain,
> catalogue and evaluate functions as a new form of knowledge the communities
> work on. This will allow completely new use cases, and allow more people to
> share in more forms of knowledge than today.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 01:52, Denny Vrandečić 
> wrote:
> >
> > > As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual
> > > Wikipedia for a few years now.
> >
> > What's the elevator pitch for this?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-15 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Hi Denny, Markus, and Wikimedians / Wikidatans,

Thanks so much for this momentous next step in Wikipedia & Wikidata's ~300
languages, and for this great overview "Keynote by Denny Vrandečić at
SWAT4HCLS 2019" https://youtu.be/yzVA7YLwhTE  & thanks too for mentioning
the evolution of Wikipedia's medical content (at 21 mins.) & the genetics'
focus re GeneDB (at 22:30 ). Appreciating also your approach to Wikidata to
Wikipedia in ~300 languages regarding the Constructors, Content, Renderers'
approach (from 34 mins to 39 mins).

Looks like Wikipedia is developing the next big multilingual step, - and
for the 146 languages in Wikipedia with less than 10 editors in their
communities (at 42 mins) out of its 300 languages.

Thank you so much Wikidata founder (now at Google) Denny Vrandečić !

Best regards,
Scott
PS. Am staying tuned for CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch's
planned online medical schools -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/World_University_Medical_School
-
and online teaching hospitals -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital - planned in each
of all ~200 nation states' official and main languages, for the practice of
online medicine. (CC-4 WUaS donated itself to Wikidata in 2015 for
co-development, and received the WUaS Miraheze MediaWiki in 2017, but
they're not yet interoperable).




On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:14 AM Denny Vrandečić 
wrote:

> Yay! Thanks for the positive note! This is appreciated!
>
> Stay safe,
> Denny
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:44 AM Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > Based on my first read-through of the paper, I think this would be
> > something worth doing.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of Denny Vrandecic
> > Sent: 14 April 2020 02:53
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a
> new
> > Wikipedia project
> >
> > As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual
> > Wikipedia for a few years now. Two other publications on this are here, I
> > have bothered you with mails about it here previously too:
> >
> > https://research.google/pubs/pub48057/
> >
> > https://wikipedia20.pubpub.org/pub/vyf7ksah
> >
> > I've also been giving talks about the topic in several places about this
> > idea, some of them have also been recorded:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzVA7YLwhTE
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLiJ6E9sG6U=PLQVG_tuf3Q2fji-CwqEDRJpZuf23wevrq=13
> >
> > I gathered some awesome feedback in those few years (also from some
> members
> > of this list, thank you!), and I also implemented a few prototypes trying
> > out the idea, learning a lot from that.
> >
> > All of this has helped to sharpen the idea and come up with a more
> concrete
> > proposal. In short, the proposal is that we do a two-step approach:
> first,
> > allow for capturing Wikipedia content in an abstract notation, and
> second,
> > allow for creating functions that translate this abstract notation into
> > natural language (For simplicity, I gave this two steps names, Abstract
> > Wikipedia for step 1, and Wikilambda for step 2. I realize that both
> names
> > are not perfect, but that is just one of the many things that we can
> figure
> > out together on the way).
> >
> > I wrote up this proposal in a paper, which I uploaded to my Website
> almost
> > two weeks ago, and I also submitted it to Arxiv. And as soon as it was
> > published on Arxiv, I wanted to share it with you and see what you folks
> > think (I wanted to wait for it as Arxiv would allow the URLs to remains
> > table - my Website has gone down before and might so again).
> >
> > https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733
> >
> > The new proposal is much more concrete than the previous proposals (and
> > therefore there is much more to criticize). Also, obviously, nothing of
> > this is set in stone, and just like the names, I am very much looking
> > forward to hear suggestions for how to improve the whole thing, and I
> will
> > blatantly steal every good idea and proposal. I am not even sure what a
> > good venue for this discussion is, I guess, eventually it should be on
> > Meta?, but also about that I would like to hear proposals.
> >
> > Abstract Wikipedia is a proposed extension to Wikidata that would capture
> > the content next to the Wikidata items. Think of it as a new namespace,
> > where we could create, maintain, and collaborate on the abstract content.
> > Similar to the Wikidata-bridge, there should be a way to allow
> > contributions from the Wikipedias to flow back without too much friction.
> > The individual Wikipedias - and I cannot stress this enough - have the
> > choice to use some or any or all or none of the content from Abstract
> > Wikipedia, but I most definitely do not expect the content of the current
> > Wikipedias to be replaced by 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Todd Allen
There certainly is a lot to reflect on, isn't there?

Maybe you can do some reflecting on the fact that those "long-time
contributors" were, in many cases, working on Wikipedia before most people
had ever even heard of it (when I first started working on it, "What's
Wikipedia?" would be a question I was often asked if I'd mention it;
haven't heard that for a while though), and have been working to build,
maintain, and improve it ever since. So maybe there's a reason we care a
great deal about it.

And maybe there's a good reason to listen to the people who literally built
the thing, made it into what it is, and still day to day keep it going.
Maybe we know what we're doing. I think we rather proved it.

Todd

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:00 PM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> When I read something like this, it takes me aback. Yes, people may have an
> opinion, they may even express it and they even may be wrong. Who cares
> really. There is enough to dislike in branding, we are not cattle. From a
> marketing perspective there may be a point. The point would be to bring all
> that we do together, bring it together so that what it is we are and what
> is we do better understood by an audience, an audience that we want to
> entice to like us enough to become part of our Wikimedia movement.
>
> The problem is that the "long time contributors" don't like change. They
> have invested so much in whatever it is they think makes our projects work
> that they do not see the forest from the trees. They forget what our
> primary aim, is and fail to appreciate that all conventions are there to
> support the aim of sharing in the sum of all knowledge. This week Wikipedia
> administrators killed off the ListeriaBot because it defied a convention. A
> convention that they could not explain to me does harm to our public. A
> convention that exists because it was conceded to English Wikipedia that
> they could have non free images exclusive to its project. When challenged
> that they do not care about Wikipedia's quality, that manually maintained
> lists average out to be not as well maintained as Listeria list there was
> silence. They did not care because it did not address their need that their
> convention had to prevail.
>
> "Long time contributors", administrators are the ones expecting others to
> share their sentiment about everything what is bad. I don't. Katherine
> Maher brought an end to a period of stagnation. My impression is that at
> the Wikimedia Foundation things look up. I love it that the WMF wants to
> expand and I totally agree that English Wikipedia, its best known product,
> the brand that is known by many is exactly what is not bringing us
> together.
>
> I prefer people like Mackenzie Lemieux or Jess Wade any time over the "long
> time contributors".. PS with a blog going back 15 years, with 2,606,298
> edits I qualify as a long time contributor..
>
> So if your opinions are as good as the reflections you have on the quality
> of Wikipedia, I do not care about your opinions. By my calculations there
> is on average error rate of 4% in lists because of false friends. Magnus
> blogged how manually maintained list are anything but well maintained
> lists. The key point of branding in the marketing sense is that it is to
> bring out the best of what is on offer.
>
> The basis of what we have on offer is in what we aim to achieve and, for me
> our aim is to share in the sum of the knowledge that is available to us.
> Everything that is in its way of achieving this needs reflection and imho
> there is a lot to reflect.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 18:59, MZMcBride  wrote:
>
> > David Gerard wrote:
> > >https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes/2018-11-9,10,11#Branding
> > >
> > >So this has been dictated from above - the "community consultation" is
> > >window dressing for a decision that's long been made.
> > >
> > >Hence the nonsensical claims of massive community support by fiddling
> > >the numbers, employing literal wiki spammers to do the consulting,
> > >etc.
> >
> > Wikimedia Foundation Inc. is bad. There are dozens of examples
> > illustrating why this is true, but this forcible rebranding is a
> > particularly good demonstration of the rot.
> >
> > The people most directly responsible here are Katherine Maher and Heather
> > Walls. They're both subscribed to this mailing list, they both understand
> > that this decision would upset long-time contributors, and they both
> > simply decided to ignore any complaints in favor of attempting to siphon
> > more money from donors and force their "vision" on the broader movement.
> > You don't see either of them defending themselves or their actions here
> > for a reason. They didn't both forget how e-mail works or how the wikis
> > work, they've intentionally chosen to plug their ears and march forward.
> >
> > What's more offensive, in my opinion, than this forcible rebranding
> effort
> > is that they've spent and will 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
When I read something like this, it takes me aback. Yes, people may have an
opinion, they may even express it and they even may be wrong. Who cares
really. There is enough to dislike in branding, we are not cattle. From a
marketing perspective there may be a point. The point would be to bring all
that we do together, bring it together so that what it is we are and what
is we do better understood by an audience, an audience that we want to
entice to like us enough to become part of our Wikimedia movement.

The problem is that the "long time contributors" don't like change. They
have invested so much in whatever it is they think makes our projects work
that they do not see the forest from the trees. They forget what our
primary aim, is and fail to appreciate that all conventions are there to
support the aim of sharing in the sum of all knowledge. This week Wikipedia
administrators killed off the ListeriaBot because it defied a convention. A
convention that they could not explain to me does harm to our public. A
convention that exists because it was conceded to English Wikipedia that
they could have non free images exclusive to its project. When challenged
that they do not care about Wikipedia's quality, that manually maintained
lists average out to be not as well maintained as Listeria list there was
silence. They did not care because it did not address their need that their
convention had to prevail.

"Long time contributors", administrators are the ones expecting others to
share their sentiment about everything what is bad. I don't. Katherine
Maher brought an end to a period of stagnation. My impression is that at
the Wikimedia Foundation things look up. I love it that the WMF wants to
expand and I totally agree that English Wikipedia, its best known product,
the brand that is known by many is exactly what is not bringing us
together.

I prefer people like Mackenzie Lemieux or Jess Wade any time over the "long
time contributors".. PS with a blog going back 15 years, with 2,606,298
edits I qualify as a long time contributor..

So if your opinions are as good as the reflections you have on the quality
of Wikipedia, I do not care about your opinions. By my calculations there
is on average error rate of 4% in lists because of false friends. Magnus
blogged how manually maintained list are anything but well maintained
lists. The key point of branding in the marketing sense is that it is to
bring out the best of what is on offer.

The basis of what we have on offer is in what we aim to achieve and, for me
our aim is to share in the sum of the knowledge that is available to us.
Everything that is in its way of achieving this needs reflection and imho
there is a lot to reflect.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 18:59, MZMcBride  wrote:

> David Gerard wrote:
> >https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes/2018-11-9,10,11#Branding
> >
> >So this has been dictated from above - the "community consultation" is
> >window dressing for a decision that's long been made.
> >
> >Hence the nonsensical claims of massive community support by fiddling
> >the numbers, employing literal wiki spammers to do the consulting,
> >etc.
>
> Wikimedia Foundation Inc. is bad. There are dozens of examples
> illustrating why this is true, but this forcible rebranding is a
> particularly good demonstration of the rot.
>
> The people most directly responsible here are Katherine Maher and Heather
> Walls. They're both subscribed to this mailing list, they both understand
> that this decision would upset long-time contributors, and they both
> simply decided to ignore any complaints in favor of attempting to siphon
> more money from donors and force their "vision" on the broader movement.
> You don't see either of them defending themselves or their actions here
> for a reason. They didn't both forget how e-mail works or how the wikis
> work, they've intentionally chosen to plug their ears and march forward.
>
> What's more offensive, in my opinion, than this forcible rebranding effort
> is that they've spent and will continue to spend hundreds of thousands of
> dollars on it. It would be bad enough to make this unilateral decision and
> implement it with the existing bloated staff, but instead they've hired
> agencies and consultants and wasted additional hundreds of thousands of
> dollars in donor money on this sham exercise.
>
> But don't worry, highly deceptive advertising is back on the projects, in
> mid-April, to ensure continued funding of this and other charades.
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Multi-page advertising on Wikipedia

2020-04-15 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Hi MZMcBride,

You are right that it's unusual for us to display any banners on English
Wiki in the USA at this time of year.

We wanted to do a thorough evaluation of our backend systems and receive
some live data on our banners, which we have been adjusting to be sensitive
during the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

Along with other analysis, we use brief tests to collate necessary data to
inform future projections. Given the significant global changes over the
last few months we felt it vital to gather this now to help inform annual
and long term planning for the WMF, and by extension the broader movement.
These tests will only be running for 1-3 hours and the current expectation
is to run a couple of additional brief tests in the next few weeks.

Just also to note I am currently replacing Seddon as the community liaison
for the Advancement department, whilst he is working with the Product
department. This handover is ongoing. I did leave a note on the English
Wikipedia village pump before the test [1] and I will make sure the
CentralNotice calendar is updated to reflect our known planned fundraising
activities.

Thanks.
Nick

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#English_Fundraising_system_tests

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:41 AM MZMcBride  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I happened to pull up a wiki article on my phone this morning and I got
> hit with multi-page advertising begging for money from Wikimedia
> Foundation Inc. It's mid-April, what is going on? This spam is typically
> confined to late November and December.
>
> I don't see any relevant campaign listed at
> .
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Michael Peel
I think it’s important to realise that there *is* a big issue here. How we want 
to be perceived and how we are actually perceived are *not* the same.

We can argue about WMF vs. community as much as we want, but that won’t change 
reality.

Please can we focus on how we solve the problem instead of internal bickering? 
(This applies equally to the community and the brand project.)

Thanks,
Mike

> On 15 Apr 2020, at 20:05, Pine W  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. As Deskana has pointed out in the past, painting everyone at WMF
> with the same brush is problematic. It can demoralize people who do
> good work.
> 
> At the same time, it's difficult to escape the conclusion that the
> same problems occur at WMF year after year. As the saying goes, "The
> more things change, the more they stay the same." I think that the WMF
> Board is a part of the problem. In the meantime, the best that the
> rest of us can do is to continue to make our opinions known and try to
> be productive.
> 
> I'm reluctant to call for changes of individually identifiable staff
> without knowing more about the facts of this situation. I simply don't
> have enough information.
> 
> I'm not aware of any large organization which doesn't have recurring
> problems. WMF is not unique in this regard. That's not an excuse, but
> I think that it's also important to be realistic.
> 
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Pine W
Hmm. As Deskana has pointed out in the past, painting everyone at WMF
with the same brush is problematic. It can demoralize people who do
good work.

At the same time, it's difficult to escape the conclusion that the
same problems occur at WMF year after year. As the saying goes, "The
more things change, the more they stay the same." I think that the WMF
Board is a part of the problem. In the meantime, the best that the
rest of us can do is to continue to make our opinions known and try to
be productive.

I'm reluctant to call for changes of individually identifiable staff
without knowing more about the facts of this situation. I simply don't
have enough information.

I'm not aware of any large organization which doesn't have recurring
problems. WMF is not unique in this regard. That's not an excuse, but
I think that it's also important to be realistic.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote:
>https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes/2018-11-9,10,11#Branding
>
>So this has been dictated from above - the "community consultation" is
>window dressing for a decision that's long been made.
>
>Hence the nonsensical claims of massive community support by fiddling
>the numbers, employing literal wiki spammers to do the consulting,
>etc.

Wikimedia Foundation Inc. is bad. There are dozens of examples
illustrating why this is true, but this forcible rebranding is a
particularly good demonstration of the rot.

The people most directly responsible here are Katherine Maher and Heather
Walls. They're both subscribed to this mailing list, they both understand
that this decision would upset long-time contributors, and they both
simply decided to ignore any complaints in favor of attempting to siphon
more money from donors and force their "vision" on the broader movement.
You don't see either of them defending themselves or their actions here
for a reason. They didn't both forget how e-mail works or how the wikis
work, they've intentionally chosen to plug their ears and march forward.

What's more offensive, in my opinion, than this forcible rebranding effort
is that they've spent and will continue to spend hundreds of thousands of
dollars on it. It would be bad enough to make this unilateral decision and
implement it with the existing bloated staff, but instead they've hired
agencies and consultants and wasted additional hundreds of thousands of
dollars in donor money on this sham exercise.

But don't worry, highly deceptive advertising is back on the projects, in
mid-April, to ensure continued funding of this and other charades.

MZMcBride



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[Wikimedia-l] Multi-page advertising on Wikipedia

2020-04-15 Thread MZMcBride
Hi.

I happened to pull up a wiki article on my phone this morning and I got
hit with multi-page advertising begging for money from Wikimedia
Foundation Inc. It's mid-April, what is going on? This spam is typically
confined to late November and December.

I don't see any relevant campaign listed at
.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
I decided to write/translate/create a featured article every month in Basque 
Wikipedia as a 2020 new year resolution. The home-confinement is helping me 
writing two of them in a month.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Amir 
E. Aharoni 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:57 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making 
you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

Two things!

1. Each of the last three weeks were the best ever for the Content
Translation extension. The usual number is between 2000 and 4000 per week,
and before March 2020, there was only one week with more than 5000 articles
published. In each of the last three weeks more than 5000 articles were
published, and this, of course, is awesome. I'm not sure what is the reason
for the surge—the pandemic, or some article writing contest, or something
else. As far as I can tell, the rise in the number of translations does not
cause more spam, vandalism, or bad translations, but I cannot check
thousands of translated articles in dozens of languages, so if anyone can
check whether the quality of the published articles is good, too, I'll be
happy to know more. You can see more numbers here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslationStats

2. Denny's Wikilambda proposal. It will be challenging to implement, but it
makes a lot of sense. Denny has been pitching it for some time, and the
latest paper published at http://wikilambda.org/ is the most detailed yet.

--
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http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020 ב-9:38 מאת ‪Pine W‬‏ <‪wiki.p...@gmail.com
‬‏>:‬

> * Preface *
>
> Hello,
>
> I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that
> Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would
> return by now and that she would send this email.
>
> I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not
> start a thread for the week of 12 April.
>
> The main content for this email is adapted from Clovermoss, and the
> text is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0
> Unported License. [2]
>
>
> * Main content *
>
> I realize that this week has been difficult for many around the world.
> I have mentioned this in previous weeks, but I think it's vital to
> express my sympathies each and every time. A pandemic like this has
> global ramifications, and I think it's important to recognize that for
> a lot of people, this week could have been one filled with hardship.
> There are people who have been laid off from their jobs, parents who
> are doing their best to take care of their children, students who have
> had to start taking classes online, and an endless amount of other
> unique situations.
>
> This week, some important milestones have been reached across the
> Wikimedia Movement. The Ukrainian Wikipedia [3] has reached the 1
> million article milestone. That's a huge milestone to reach, so I wish
> to congratulate everyone who contributes there! I asked Ата, an active
> contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, about how this milestone
> affects the project. [4] I found her response insightful, and I am
> thankful for it.
>
> In addition, the The Wikimedia Community of the Kazakh language User
> Group has officially been recognized by the Affiliations Commitee. For
> more information, see [5] and [6].
>
> I have also discovered inspiring off-wiki initiatives, such as the
> Mozilla Open Source Support Team (abbreviated as MOSS) launching a
> COVID-19 Solutions Fund. Awards of up to $50,000 are being offered to
> open source technology projects. [7]
>
>
> * Closing comments *
>
> Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on
> Meta. [8] Thanks to User:Ата [9] for the Ukranian translation.
>
> What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to write in any
> language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.
>
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clovermoss
> [2]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License
> [3] https://uk.wikipedia.org/
> [4]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0=prev=19952931
> [5]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
> [6]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
> [7]
> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/03/31/moss-launches-covid-19-solutions-fund/
> [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine/WMYHTW_translations
> [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Peter Southwood
A very interesting proposal for a new wiki by  Denny Vrandečić  at 
https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733 (What's making me happy this week)
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Pine W
Sent: 15 April 2020 08:36
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you 
happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

* Preface *

Hello,

I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that
Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would
return by now and that she would send this email.

I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not
start a thread for the week of 12 April.

The main content for this email is adapted from Clovermoss, and the
text is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0
Unported License. [2]


* Main content *

I realize that this week has been difficult for many around the world.
I have mentioned this in previous weeks, but I think it's vital to
express my sympathies each and every time. A pandemic like this has
global ramifications, and I think it's important to recognize that for
a lot of people, this week could have been one filled with hardship.
There are people who have been laid off from their jobs, parents who
are doing their best to take care of their children, students who have
had to start taking classes online, and an endless amount of other
unique situations.

This week, some important milestones have been reached across the
Wikimedia Movement. The Ukrainian Wikipedia [3] has reached the 1
million article milestone. That's a huge milestone to reach, so I wish
to congratulate everyone who contributes there! I asked Ата, an active
contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, about how this milestone
affects the project. [4] I found her response insightful, and I am
thankful for it.

In addition, the The Wikimedia Community of the Kazakh language User
Group has officially been recognized by the Affiliations Commitee. For
more information, see [5] and [6].

I have also discovered inspiring off-wiki initiatives, such as the
Mozilla Open Source Support Team (abbreviated as MOSS) launching a
COVID-19 Solutions Fund. Awards of up to $50,000 are being offered to
open source technology projects. [7]


* Closing comments *

Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on
Meta. [8] Thanks to User:Ата [9] for the Ukranian translation.

What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to write in any
language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.


Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clovermoss
[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License
[3] https://uk.wikipedia.org/
[4] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0=prev=19952931
[5] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
[6] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
[7] 
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/03/31/moss-launches-covid-19-solutions-fund/
[8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine/WMYHTW_translations
[9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Two things!

1. Each of the last three weeks were the best ever for the Content
Translation extension. The usual number is between 2000 and 4000 per week,
and before March 2020, there was only one week with more than 5000 articles
published. In each of the last three weeks more than 5000 articles were
published, and this, of course, is awesome. I'm not sure what is the reason
for the surge—the pandemic, or some article writing contest, or something
else. As far as I can tell, the rise in the number of translations does not
cause more spam, vandalism, or bad translations, but I cannot check
thousands of translated articles in dozens of languages, so if anyone can
check whether the quality of the published articles is good, too, I'll be
happy to know more. You can see more numbers here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslationStats

2. Denny's Wikilambda proposal. It will be challenging to implement, but it
makes a lot of sense. Denny has been pitching it for some time, and the
latest paper published at http://wikilambda.org/ is the most detailed yet.

--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020 ב-9:38 מאת ‪Pine W‬‏ <‪wiki.p...@gmail.com
‬‏>:‬

> * Preface *
>
> Hello,
>
> I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that
> Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would
> return by now and that she would send this email.
>
> I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not
> start a thread for the week of 12 April.
>
> The main content for this email is adapted from Clovermoss, and the
> text is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0
> Unported License. [2]
>
>
> * Main content *
>
> I realize that this week has been difficult for many around the world.
> I have mentioned this in previous weeks, but I think it's vital to
> express my sympathies each and every time. A pandemic like this has
> global ramifications, and I think it's important to recognize that for
> a lot of people, this week could have been one filled with hardship.
> There are people who have been laid off from their jobs, parents who
> are doing their best to take care of their children, students who have
> had to start taking classes online, and an endless amount of other
> unique situations.
>
> This week, some important milestones have been reached across the
> Wikimedia Movement. The Ukrainian Wikipedia [3] has reached the 1
> million article milestone. That's a huge milestone to reach, so I wish
> to congratulate everyone who contributes there! I asked Ата, an active
> contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, about how this milestone
> affects the project. [4] I found her response insightful, and I am
> thankful for it.
>
> In addition, the The Wikimedia Community of the Kazakh language User
> Group has officially been recognized by the Affiliations Commitee. For
> more information, see [5] and [6].
>
> I have also discovered inspiring off-wiki initiatives, such as the
> Mozilla Open Source Support Team (abbreviated as MOSS) launching a
> COVID-19 Solutions Fund. Awards of up to $50,000 are being offered to
> open source technology projects. [7]
>
>
> * Closing comments *
>
> Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on
> Meta. [8] Thanks to User:Ата [9] for the Ukranian translation.
>
> What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to write in any
> language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.
>
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clovermoss
> [2]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License
> [3] https://uk.wikipedia.org/
> [4]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0=prev=19952931
> [5]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
> [6]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
> [7]
> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/03/31/moss-launches-covid-19-solutions-fund/
> [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine/WMYHTW_translations
> [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Pine W
* Preface *

Hello,

I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that
Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would
return by now and that she would send this email.

I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not
start a thread for the week of 12 April.

The main content for this email is adapted from Clovermoss, and the
text is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0
Unported License. [2]


* Main content *

I realize that this week has been difficult for many around the world.
I have mentioned this in previous weeks, but I think it's vital to
express my sympathies each and every time. A pandemic like this has
global ramifications, and I think it's important to recognize that for
a lot of people, this week could have been one filled with hardship.
There are people who have been laid off from their jobs, parents who
are doing their best to take care of their children, students who have
had to start taking classes online, and an endless amount of other
unique situations.

This week, some important milestones have been reached across the
Wikimedia Movement. The Ukrainian Wikipedia [3] has reached the 1
million article milestone. That's a huge milestone to reach, so I wish
to congratulate everyone who contributes there! I asked Ата, an active
contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, about how this milestone
affects the project. [4] I found her response insightful, and I am
thankful for it.

In addition, the The Wikimedia Community of the Kazakh language User
Group has officially been recognized by the Affiliations Commitee. For
more information, see [5] and [6].

I have also discovered inspiring off-wiki initiatives, such as the
Mozilla Open Source Support Team (abbreviated as MOSS) launching a
COVID-19 Solutions Fund. Awards of up to $50,000 are being offered to
open source technology projects. [7]


* Closing comments *

Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on
Meta. [8] Thanks to User:Ата [9] for the Ukranian translation.

What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to write in any
language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.


Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clovermoss
[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License
[3] https://uk.wikipedia.org/
[4] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0=prev=19952931
[5] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
[6] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
[7] 
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/03/31/moss-launches-covid-19-solutions-fund/
[8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine/WMYHTW_translations
[9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0

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