Re: [Wikimedia-l] Preventing conflicts of interest in Wikimedia organizations' employment and financial relationships

2020-05-22 Thread effe iets anders
From what I understand, you're mostly concerned about fraud and conflicts of interest. First of all: wholly agree with Andy. I am not aware of any organization that would monitor the bank account transactions of its board members. Self-reporting interests, sure. I'm curious what kind of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for that clarification! I read that initially as capacity, tools, training etc for community functionaries to be better enforcers (maybe I read it too quickly - I'm still ambivalent about it). Glad I didn't interpret that correctly! Best, Lodewijk On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 6:50 PM Shani

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-22 Thread Gnangarra
Agree Masti Its hard to for people to understand that Commons has a foot in two places, - US Laws - because thats were its hosted - State of Origin - because that were its from. using just cc-by with or without sa option is an very clear pathway to someone off with their own images.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread Shani Evenstein
Hi Lodewijk, This ecosystem you are describing is exactly what we are hoping for. And we absolutely agree that what you called "education" is needed. We referred to it as "training" and "capacity building" in this sentence in the statement: "To that end, the Board further directs the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for this step - I wish that it wouldn't be necessary. I'm not sure of all the implications, but was mostly wondering: will this be primarily a stick, or is the foundation also going to invest more heavily in carrots and education? I get the impression that we have much progress to make in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread Nataliia Tymkiv
Hello, Dennis! Not at all. What it means is that this a not a process that goes into play *before* a decision to act is made, but *after*. It should stand as an option for those who want to ensure that actions taken are fair, as long as the case does not relate to legal risks or other severe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread Pine W
Hello, I share the Board's interest in many of these matters. However, I remind the WMF Board that it exists to serve the Wikimedia community, not the other way around. Also, I recommend that the Board take great care in approaching these matters diplomatically and with appreciation for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread Dennis During
"Work with community functionaries to create and refine a retroactive review process for cases brought by involved parties, excluding those cases which pose legal or other severe risks " What does "retroactive review process" mean? I hope it doesn't mean applying standards that were not

[Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread María Sefidari
Hello everyone, Today, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees unanimously passed a resolution and published a statement[1] regarding the urgent need to make our movement more safe and inclusive by addressing harassment and incivility on Wikimedia projects. The statement builds on prior

[Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee/Candidates/June 2020

2020-05-22 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Hi everyone, The Affiliations Committee (AffCom) – the committee responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing and sustaining Wikimedia chapters, thematic organizations, and user groups – is seeking new members! The main role of the AffCom is to guide groups of volunteers that are

[Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Hay Kranen created a proof of concept where Commons is searched for pictures that (per standard) use a "depicts" statement.. The search is limited to existing labels in Wikidata and to the search has as its result whatever is available in commons.. Use for instance "appelmoes" and you get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-22 Thread masti
commons problem is a hostile admin environment. people without understnd for non UK/US ways of handling copyright law technical issues are important, as  new users do not know how to do it. but once they overcome that heir pictures got deleted masti On 17.05.2020 05:04, Benjamin Ikuta wrote: