Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Hay (Husky)
Hey everyone, first of all, thanks for all the compliments on my tool! I'm really glad that people think it is of use. First of all, i made a couple of updates to the tool, including adding i18n support, category search and links to Petscan. I've posted an update on Twitter:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been a professional developer for much of my working life. From what I know of what Hay has done, I know you are wrong depending on the approach taken. Building this functionality can be an iterative process, it does not need to be all singing all dancing from the start. At one time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Gerard, I mostly agree with you. However, I disagree with this: > This proof of concept is largely based on existing WMF functionality so it > takes very little for the Wikimedia Foundation to adopt the code, do it > properly particularly for the Internationalisation. Turning prototype code

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Indeed, we have all known what things are possible and, indeed we have all been calling for a change in the "Commons experience". Now the great thing of this "proof of concept" is that at this time it stands alone. It demonstrates that multilingual search can be harnessed in what is only a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
First of all, good job. I appreciate that. To be honest, however, some of us did not need a "proof of concept" to know that this was possible, we would have helped to build it years ago if the situation allowed it. it did not, the "social" environment was against it. We could not de facto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Mike you are absolutely right but you are missing the point that I am trying to make. Yes, what is exposed by Hay's SDSEARCH tool is based on all the work that was done before and as such it relies absolutely on the work that has been done before. Without it, this tool would not be possible.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, It’s worth remembering that this functionality is built in to Commons, it’s just not as user-friendly. From the example below, if you put "haswbstatement:P180=Q191931” into the Commons searchbox, you will get the same results. Thanks to the structured data on commons project+team!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

2020-05-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Two more localisations became available, one for German and one for Swedish. I have asked Alolita if she would help us with a localisation in an Indian language. Anthere, would you be so kind and reach out so that we have a localisation in an African language as well.. (French would also be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-24 Thread effe iets anders
How is a one-off ban comparable in any way with a structured effort to develop a policy in consultation with the community, and then implement it together? Lodewijk On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 10:02 PM Todd Allen wrote: > Worked out great the last time WMF tried to pull something like this, >