Hello, I'm trying to respond to this calmly here.
I request we think about the issues from some more angles. I feel somewhat defensive, but not combative. I hope that this makes sense. English Wikipedia took an enormous amount of volunteer effort to build, and volunteers are people too. Some of us, like WMF staff, are aware of risks to ourselves from our participation. When people cause problems on wiki, such as with undisclosed paid editing, we have a range of ways that we respond to that, including blocking people. English Wikipedia is like a country, and as with any county we need to deal with people who create problems, ranging from minor issues to major issues. Maggie discussed some of the major issues in her office hour, and I appreciate her and WMF trying to address them. We don't accept citizens and government employees doing whatever they want. For example, if an administrator on English Wikipedia uses their administrative permissions to lock a page from being edited when they are involved in the content dispute, that lock will probably be overruled. Depending on the administrator's past conduct, they may be given anything from a reminder to a removal of their administrative permissions. One of the important concerns regarding the activities in the wiki is that people aren't getting the support that they need when they are feeling attacked. I don't have answers to many problems in our world and on wiki, and I think that none of us are claiming to. However, I'm certain that in some circumstances, removing people is the right thing to do. If this comes across as "Pine thinks that he has all the answers" or something like that, please, please contact me off list, and let's find a time to have a voice conversation. Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
