Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi everyone, Options to mitigate any risks are numerous, especially when it comes to content distribution (private/semi-private/public/delegated/federated/a mix of everything) but given the current context I would restrain from having this as a public / community discussion. We, community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution to pause Movement Brand Project through March 2021

2020-09-30 Thread Zack McCune
Thank you María! Following this Board resolution, the Brand Project team will be updating the project hub. [1] We will also release the Naming Survey results as both a report and as the anonymized data by October 6. The publication of those materials will be shared on the project hub and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution to pause Movement Brand Project through March 2021

2020-09-30 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks for hearing the voices, María and members of the board. Defining common goals is the best practice for reaching to the best solution. Sincerely, Galder From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of María Sefidari Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:47 PM To:

[Wikimedia-l] Resolution to pause Movement Brand Project through March 2021

2020-09-30 Thread María Sefidari
Hi everyone, The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, following the recommendation of staff, has resolved to pause the Movement Brand Project until the next calendar year.[1] We recognize that much of the Wikimedia movement’s activities, events, and key collaborations have been put on hold or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:22 PM Nathan wrote: > Well, to Steven's point that you might need a jurisdiction where corporate > officers and employees aren't subject to extradition... I believe Germany > does in fact have an extradition treaty with the United States. > The chapters do seem like

[Wikimedia-l] Office hour: Community Resilience & Sustainability/ T

2020-09-30 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hello, all. I am Maggie Dennis, Vice President of Community Resilience & Sustainability, working directly under the General Counsel of the Wikimedia Foundation.[1] I've served in various roles at the Foundation over the past 9 years, always in and about the Trust & Safety team. I'm also a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Nathan
Well, to Steven's point that you might need a jurisdiction where corporate officers and employees aren't subject to extradition... I believe Germany does in fact have an extradition treaty with the United States. So far the criteria I'm hearing from the comments here: 1) Politically stable 2)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Michael Peel
… hence the existence of Wikimedia chapters? I suspect at least WMDE could take this on if it becomes necessary, although other chapters aren’t as technologically developed as I’d have liked to have seen. Thanks, Mike > On 30 Sep 2020, at 19:35, Steven Walling wrote: > > SJ hinted at a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Steven Walling
SJ hinted at a related problem which is that we'd also need a backup organizational structure to run things operationally and legally. If the US becomes so politically unstable that hosting Wikimedia data is under threat there, just moving the data would not be enough. You'd also have to include a

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost – Volume 16, Issue 9 – 27 September 2020

2020-09-30 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Special report: Paid editing with political connections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-09-27/Special_report News and notes: More large-scale errors at a "small" wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Samuel Klein
We should have technical partners in multiple other jurisdictions that could help in a crisis, and load bearing infrastructure in at least one of them, and a plan for how and when to switch. (The walkthrough of what would be needed for a smooth transfer send most important, and useful for general

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Pascal Martin
Hi all, Maybe one way in France : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renater I could contact them if it s possible, and more particularly the criann he would only charge for electricity. At the same time this allows to be able to save energy for users who consult wikipedia in Europe.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Gereon Kalkuhl
Hi all, as Dimi said, there had been some discussions about this topic over the years. Unfortunately they were not taken for serious, for example https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Move_the_WMF_and_Servers_to_Iceland . And there is not only the political issue, there are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Gnangarra
I agree there does a appear to be a need for the WMF and Board to consider a contingency plan, does it need to be public? I'm not as convinced. Privacy is just one of many questions that would have to be addressed, with that being said it's important. There are other equally important needs from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Hi all, We have had discussions on this with many Wikimedians over the years, but frankly, the issue never seemed pressing enough to pursue more seriously. Some points made that I remember where: - Perhaps it is enough to just have back-up servers in another jurisdictions that could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:49, Erik Moeller wrote: > I hope that some preliminary contingency plans exist or are being > developed, and I'm sure that the movement-wide debate will widen if > the US continues its downward slide into authoritarianism. > I agree with Erik. Even under the Obama

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder - Review of the draft for a Universal Code of Conduct

2020-09-30 Thread Christel Steigenberger
Hello everyone, We want to remind everyone that only your ideas and thoughts on the improvement of the draft for the Universal Code of Conduct are welcome.[1] The feedback will be collected until October 6th, when the drafting committee[2] will begin final preparations for sharing with the Board.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

2020-09-30 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:36 PM Joseph Seddon wrote: > I believe options are going to be explored for sustainability but right now > legally speaking the US is the best jurisdiction for hosting us now Certainly. > and the foreseeable future. I can't foresee the future. But Trump's first term