On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 16:23, Joseph Seddon wrote:
> Short answer: I don't think it's a cynical lie. I think that the donations
> our donors give do results in benefits to the community, even if they
> aren't transactional or tangible things. We definitely don't want to give
It's 0415 IST on the West Coast of India, and am just writing to say that I
always read the hands-folded symbol as a "namaste":
It's a kind of a respectful, non-contact greeting, and here we wouldn't
take it as religious, more cultural if anything.
We have used variations on this line for at the last 7 years and the
counter-intuitive approach approach has been debated by marketing
professionals for much of the last decade.
What you describe is known as social proof and despite it being considered
a core tenet in marketing it
I agree that praying emojis look like a certain type of religious practice,
a hand gesture that implies certain religions and not others.
I assume the fundraising team would have the good sense not to describe
their campaign as a crusade or a jihad. Even if they had carefully targeted
It's my fault for not posting the link! I actually thought I had.
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 9:40 AM Uwe Herzke wrote:
> As I just saw, that you were referring to an even older post, that was
> about this section on the same talk page, the talk page on Meta about
> the changes.
I want to note that my response specifically deals with the messaging you
raised. I will note that the privacy of our users is of paramount
importance across the organisation and is taken seriously and with care.
You can view with Wikimedia Foundation's data retention guidelines on
Short answer: I don't think it's a cynical lie. I think that the donations
our donors give do results in benefits to the community, even if they
aren't transactional or tangible things. We definitely don't want to give
any misleading impression that the benefits are tangible so we will look
As I just saw, that you were referring to an even older post, that was
about this section on the same talk page, the talk page on Meta about
the changes. That's the first place to look for such stuff, as that's
the most legitimate place for such discussions. Where did you expect this?
The last update I know of is this here from November 17:
Anyone know where Dan would have gotten this update? I've searched for it
Dan Szymborski dszymborski at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 16:53:46 UTC 2020> Surprised to not see this here yet.> ...
> In response to comments from community members, the Board GovernanceCommittee
[ Cross-posted from
I had the misfortune of visiting Wikipedia logged-out the other day, and was
struck by the large size of the donation banner, and the odd wording of the
appeal. (Something about awkward
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