Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

2020-12-06 Thread Demian
Hey Seddon, On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 16:23, Joseph Seddon wrote: > Short answer: I don't think it's a cynical lie. I think that the donations > our donors give do results in benefits to the community, even if they > aren't transactional or tangible things. We definitely don't want to give > any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-12-06 Thread Frederick Noronha
It's 0415 IST on the West Coast of India, and am just writing to say that I always read the hands-folded symbol as a "namaste": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste It's a kind of a respectful, non-contact greeting, and here we wouldn't take it as religious, more cultural if anything. For other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-12-06 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey WSC! We have used variations on this line for at the last 7 years and the counter-intuitive approach approach has been debated by marketing professionals for much of the last decade. What you describe is known as social proof and despite it being considered a core tenet in marketing it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-12-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
I agree that praying emojis look like a certain type of religious practice, a hand gesture that implies certain religions and not others. I assume the fundraising team would have the good sense not to describe their campaign as a crusade or a jihad. Even if they had carefully targeted that emoji

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Update From the Board

2020-12-06 Thread Dan Szymborski
It's my fault for not posting the link! I actually thought I had. Dan On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 9:40 AM Uwe Herzke wrote: > @Pelagic: > > As I just saw, that you were referring to an even older post, that was > about this section on the same talk page, the talk page on Meta about > the changes.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads [and a Privacy Policy question]

2020-12-06 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Yury, I want to note that my response specifically deals with the messaging you raised. I will note that the privacy of our users is of paramount importance across the organisation and is taken seriously and with care. You can view with Wikimedia Foundation's data retention guidelines on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

2020-12-06 Thread Joseph Seddon
Short answer: I don't think it's a cynical lie. I think that the donations our donors give do results in benefits to the community, even if they aren't transactional or tangible things. We definitely don't want to give any misleading impression that the benefits are tangible so we will look into

[Wikimedia-l] An Update From the Board

2020-12-06 Thread Uwe Herzke
@Pelagic: As I just saw, that you were referring to an even older post, that was about this section on the same talk page, the talk page on Meta about the changes. That's the first place to look for such stuff, as that's the most legitimate place for such discussions. Where did you expect this?

[Wikimedia-l] An Update From the Board

2020-12-06 Thread Uwe Herzke
@Pelagic: The last update I know of is this here from November 17: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/October_2020_-_Call_for_feedback_about_Bylaws_changes_and_Board_candidate_rubric#Update_after_the_Board_Governance_Committee_meeting_on_Nov_17 Greetings

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Update From the Board

2020-12-06 Thread Pelagic via Wikimedia-l
Anyone know where Dan would have gotten this update?  I've searched for it without success.  Pelagic Dan Szymborski dszymborski at gmail.com Fri Oct 30 16:53:46 UTC 2020> Surprised to not see this here yet.> ... > In response to comments from community members, the Board GovernanceCommittee >

[Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

2020-12-06 Thread Pelagic via Wikimedia-l
[ Cross-posted from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Donations_-_show_the_editors_you_care%3F ] I had the misfortune of visiting Wikipedia logged-out the other day, and was struck by the large size of the donation banner, and the odd wording of the appeal. (Something about awkward