[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Mike, On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:42 PM Mike Godwin wrote: > While it is generally true that what happens in Croatian Wikipedia > normally affects the whole world instantaneously (constrained only by the > speed of light!), this may have been one of the rare instances in which > Croatian

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:09 AM Chris Keating wrote: > And when you were working for the Wikimedia Foundation those years, or >> serving on the WMF board, how did your own exercise of moral courage >> persuade people to adopt your point of view? I'm certain, given your >> convictions, that you

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Chris Keating
> > > >> The costs of doing this now will hardly have been prohibitive. >> Commissioning a report like this would have been well within the WMF's >> means in 2013 as well. (The WMF reported a budget surplus of $13 million in >> 2013.) So I stand by my assertion: the WMF could have done then what

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Mike Godwin
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:22 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Mike, > > The corruption of the Croatian Wikipedia began in 2009 and became front > page news in Croatia in September 2013. The term "fake news" hadn't been > invented yet, but the Croatian Education Minister issued a public warning > to the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Mike Godwin
This question reflects a common misunderstanding of the legal framework that protects the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation has broad rights to intervene in Wikipedia content (or other project content) above and beyond what may be strictly required by law. Exercise of these rights

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Mike, The corruption of the Croatian Wikipedia began in 2009 and became front page news in Croatia in September 2013. The term "fake news" hadn't been invented yet, but the Croatian Education Minister issued a public warning to the country's youth in 2013 that they should avoid the Croatian

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Lionel
Hi, Isn't the legal status of the foundation a web host? If it intervenes on projects within the framework of what the law expects from hosting companies, everything is fine. If it does more at the level of project governance and publishing, then it runs the risk of being recognized one day as