[Wikimedia-l] Presenting about transparency in Wikimedia's technical spaces - July 23, 17:00 UTC

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

Tomorrow at the HOPE 2022 conference, I'm giving a talk titled, "How to 
Run a Top-10 Website, Publicly and Transparently", discussing the impact 
of transparency in Wikimedia's technical spaces. A number of people have 
expressed interest in watching, including non-technical users, so I'm 
advertising it a bit more broadly.


I apologize for the short notice, I didn't realize the stream would be 
free to watch until yesterday (thanks Ori!).


Time: 2022-07-23 17:00 UTC (1pm ET) - 
https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1658595637


Stream: https://hope.net/416dac.html

If you can't watch it live, a recording will be uploaded later on.

I've documented all of this on-wiki, including the full abstract: 
.


I am of course happy to answer any questions people might have after the 
talk!


Thanks,
-- Kunal / Legoktm
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election

[Gnangarra]

>
> I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need
> to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members,


This is not some functionary volunteer role, nor is it a scholarship to
attend some event. The affiliate and the members of the Board of Trustees
are both very public facing aspects, when a person is on the Board of
Trustees their identity is public
https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/board/ .  It is obvious that a
truly  vulnerable person would not even put themselves into a BOT
position.  It's important for members of the community to know who their
affiliate chose to represent them because it's a reflection of that
community.  I know some affiliates actually didnt consult their communities
for input into the decision process before the fact so knowing after the
fact is at least pretending to be transparent in the voting.



On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 06:01, Benjamin Lees  wrote:

> I don't think there's anything blithe in pointing out that an
> after-the-fact promise of secrecy serves no one.  Affiliates had to decide
> whether to vote without knowing whether the list would be published (but
> hopefully realizing that the username of their voter would be published,
> although I'm not sure if this was made clear).  The main effect of post-hoc
> secrecy here would be to sow confusion and set up unrealistic expectations
> about future votes; in the last affiliate-selected board seat process, not
> only was the list of voting affiliates published, but *their individual
> votes were as well*: <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbs_presentation_matches_with_stv_py_results.pdf>,
> and for the reasons Lodewijk describes, we might well wish to return to
> such full transparency in the future.
>
> If a decision either way had been made and communicated beforehand,
> affiliate voters could have made an informed decision, but as with most of
> the rules for this election, it was announced in the middle of the
> election, rather than in the many months before it.  In any event, I agree
> with SJ that this is a decision to be made by the elections committee, not
> WMF staff.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:45 PM Robert Fernandez 
> wrote:
>
>> I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need
>> to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members,
>> especially in a community that usually prides itself on the ability to
>> participate anonymously.
>>
>> That said, perhaps we could publish the names of participating affiliates
>> who affirm the wish to be named publicly.
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GN.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election

[Benjamin Lees]

I don't think there's anything blithe in pointing out that an
after-the-fact promise of secrecy serves no one.  Affiliates had to decide
whether to vote without knowing whether the list would be published (but
hopefully realizing that the username of their voter would be published,
although I'm not sure if this was made clear).  The main effect of post-hoc
secrecy here would be to sow confusion and set up unrealistic expectations
about future votes; in the last affiliate-selected board seat process, not
only was the list of voting affiliates published, but *their individual
votes were as well*: <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbs_presentation_matches_with_stv_py_results.pdf>,
and for the reasons Lodewijk describes, we might well wish to return to
such full transparency in the future.

If a decision either way had been made and communicated beforehand,
affiliate voters could have made an informed decision, but as with most of
the rules for this election, it was announced in the middle of the
election, rather than in the many months before it.  In any event, I agree
with SJ that this is a decision to be made by the elections committee, not
WMF staff.


On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:45 PM Robert Fernandez 
wrote:

> I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need
> to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members,
> especially in a community that usually prides itself on the ability to
> participate anonymously.
>
> That said, perhaps we could publish the names of participating affiliates
> who affirm the wish to be named publicly.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election

[Robert Fernandez]

I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need
to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members,
especially in a community that usually prides itself on the ability to
participate anonymously.

That said, perhaps we could publish the names of participating affiliates
who affirm the wish to be named publicly.
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[Wikimedia-l] Seven Wikimedia chapters rejected as permanent observers to the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)

[Andreas Kolbe]

Dear all,

A week ago, the WMF issued a press release, "Seven Wikimedia chapters
rejected as permanent observers to the World Intellectual Property
Organization (WIPO)":

https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2022/07/15/seven-wikimedia-chapters-rejected-as-permanent-observers-to-wipo/

This stated, in part, "China was the only country to oppose the Wikimedia
chapters’ request for observer status, again, claiming that chapters were
complicit in spreading disinformation and are subsidiaries of the Wikimedia
Foundation. These statements are unfounded and misrepresent Wikipedia’s
model which prioritizes accuracy, neutrality, as well as the fact that the
chapters are completely autonomous."

About a week ago, I had seen and retweeted a Twitter thread[1] by James
Love[2], the Director of Knowledge Ecology International, listing a whole
litany of countries that had supported China's position.

I checked the webcast of the July 15 WIPO proceedings today,[3] and there
were over a dozen countries – Russia, Belarus, Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan,
Tajikistan, Iran, Syria, Algeria, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Cuba, Bolivia,
Venezuela, North Korea – that took the floor to support and endorse China's
position – more, in fact, than took the floor to support the chapters'
approval.

Would it be possible to amend the press release accordingly?

Best,
Andreas

[1] https://twitter.com/jamie_love/status/1550520525180518400
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Love_(NGO_director)
[3] Available here: https://webcast.wipo.int/ (afternoon session of July
15, part 6. Admission of Observers)
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedians of North American Indigenous Languages User Group 2021 Annual Report

[Jean-Philippe Béland]

Good day,

I would like to share with you that the Wikimedians of North American
Indigenous Languages User Group has published its 2021 Annual Report here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_North_American_Indigenous_Languages_User_Group/Reports/2021

Thank you,

Jean-Philippe Béland aka Amqui
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