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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [African Wikimedians] Invitation to episode 15 of WikiAfrica Hour

2022-08-30 Thread Festus Yemi

Thank you very much for this update. See you soon.

Regards,
Festus

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 6:44 PM Ceslause Ogbonnaya 
wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> I'm delighted to invite you to episode 15 of WikiAfrica Hour, titled 
> *Wikimedians
> In Residence*.
>
> The session is focused on shining light on the marriage between Wikimedia
> and some host organisations and its members who are interested in a
> productive relationship with the encyclopedia and its community.
>
> To make the experience a fun and memorable one, we have invited the
> following guest speakers:
>
>1. Bobby Shabangu - WiR, United Nations Development Programme,South
>Africa
>2. Florence Devouard - WiR, World Intellectual Property Organization
>(WIPO)
>3. Nicolas Vigneron - WiR, Clermont Auvergne University
>4. Alice Kibombo  -   WiR, African Library and Information
>Associations (AfLIA)
>5. Daniel Obiokeke - WiR, The Africa Narrative
>
> Date: 2nd September 2022
> Time: 4pm UTC
> Details: https://w.wiki/5dft 
>
> Regards,
> Ceslause Ogbonnaya
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[Wikimedia-l] Invitation to episode 15 of WikiAfrica Hour

2022-08-30 Thread Ceslause Ogbonnaya

Dear Wikimedians,

I'm delighted to invite you to episode 15 of WikiAfrica Hour, titled
*Wikimedians
In Residence*.

The session is focused on shining light on the marriage between Wikimedia
and some host organisations and its members who are interested in a
productive relationship with the encyclopedia and its community.

To make the experience a fun and memorable one, we have invited the
following guest speakers:

   1. Bobby Shabangu - WiR, United Nations Development Programme,South
   Africa
   2. Florence Devouard - WiR, World Intellectual Property Organization
   (WIPO)
   3. Nicolas Vigneron - WiR, Clermont Auvergne University
   4. Alice Kibombo  -   WiR, African Library and Information Associations
   (AfLIA)
   5. Daniel Obiokeke - WiR, The Africa Narrative

Date: 2nd September 2022
Time: 4pm UTC
Details: https://w.wiki/5dft 

Regards,
Ceslause Ogbonnaya
*Host,WikiAfrica Hour *
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Small Wiki Toolkit] Writing Wikidata Queries Using WDQS Tool Workshop On Tuesday, August 30th, 16:00 UTC

2022-08-30 Thread Seyram Komla Sapaty

Hello,

The workshop starts in 3 minutes!

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 10:57 AM Seyram Komla Sapaty 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> This is a friendly reminder that the workshop
> 
> starts in ~5 hours time  (UTC 16:00).
>
> Correction:
> The previous message pointed to the wrong etherpad doc.
> The correct link is here
> .
> The description should have also read:
> *"This workshop will cover aspects of using the Wikidata Query Service,
> with some discussion of ways in which Wikipedias can take advantage of its
> capabilities for their own improvement."*
>
> See you soon!
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 5:47 PM Seyram Komla Sapaty 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> The seventh workshop on the topic of "Writing Wikidata queries using the
>> WDQS tool" is coming up - it will take place on Tuesday, August 30th at
>> 16:00 UTC.
>> You can find more details on the workshop and a link to join here
>> 
>> [1].
>>
>> This session will focus on how to access and save information to
>> Wikidata, including through page generators and queries++, using pywikibot.
>> It will also cover the Wikidata conventions about bot-editing, including
>> the bot approvals process.
>>
>> To participate in this workshop, you would need basic familiarity with
>> Wikidata and Pywikibot installation.
>> You can add your discussion ideas on the etherpad doc
>> .[2]
>>
>> We look forward to your participation!
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Workshops#Writing_Wikidata_queries_using_the_WDQS_tool
>> [2]: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/swt-wikidata-pywikibot-scripts
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
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>> Developer Advocate
>> Wikimedia Cloud Services
>>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread The Cunctator

I think the official WMF stance that it is functionally powerless is the
wrong one to take. WMF should be much more aggressive, even if Google is a
major donor to WMF.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 11:16 AM Nicholas Perry  wrote:

> As others mentioned in the thread, WMF can't enforce this directly as it
> is not the copyright holder. However, in past instances, we have raised the
> issue with Google (similar to the KPN example) and will do so for this one
> as well.
>
> I am meeting with Google later today and will flag this to remind them of
> the copyright obligations that come with using this text.
>
> Thanks for surfacing this,
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:58 PM 
> wrote:
>
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>>1. Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license? (Peter Southwood)
>>2. Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license? (Ciell Wikipedia)
>>3. Re: [Small Wiki Toolkit] Writing Wikidata Queries Using WDQS Tool
>> Workshop On Tuesday, August 30th, 16:00 UTC
>>   (Seyram Komla Sapaty)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 11:18:53 +0200
>> From: "Peter Southwood" 
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?
>> To: "'F. Xavier Dengra i Grau'" ,
>> "'Wikimedia Mailing List'" 
>> Message-ID: <002201d8bc51$8963c6a0$9c2b53e0$@telkomsa.net>
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> boundary="=_NextPart_000_0023_01D8BC62.4CF06730"
>>
>> If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF
>> themselves do not own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who
>> created the text. They can take this up with Google, the WMF cannot. If you
>> are one of those contributors you can approach Google as misusing your
>> copyright.
>>
>> Cheers,  Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> From: F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l [mailto:
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org]
>> Sent: 29 August 2022 19:00
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List; le...@wikimedia.org
>> Cc: F. Xavier Dengra i Grau
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to bring a legal concern here on Google's misuse of our content.
>> It came up today <
>> https://twitter.com/epineda/status/1564143156702199813?s=20=z2xu6PMB29vvkpNB79p2iQ>
>> on Twitter that the GoogleTV app had linked a movie description text in
>> Catalan language (which in principle it should be good news regarding
>> language normalization). However, shortly after a wikipedian colleague
>> realised that the text was fully taken by the Catalan Wikipedia. Once I
>> downloaded the app by myself, I double-checked that Google does not specify
>> anywhere (or at least that I could find minimally visible) that those lines
>> belong to Wikipedia: neither the origin, the license, nor a link to the
>> full article or to the CC license.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to recall the licensing footpage on Wikipedia (Text is available
>> under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 <
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License>
>> ) and its conditions, as well as to ask others to check whether there's
>> more situations like this one. It's worth noting how wrong this is to
>> minoritised language Wikipedias: not only the legal issue itself, but also
>> the lack of legitimate clicks and views that we end up losing, the
>> confusion and misunderstandings from the readers that think this is a win
>> by Google (the example I shared, with both screenshots enclosed), and even
>> a subsequent chicken-and-egg situation that can lead to deleted articles by
>> some users thinking that the content was stolen from Google and not
>> actually the opposite.
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember that there was a previous thread here, not so long ago, about
>> the problems of Google taking over our data and therefore diminishing
>> clicks to the Wikimedia projects. Considering that I am fully against the
>> GAFAM-drift that the WMF is increasingly adopting by benefiting from Google
>> in our human, economical and digital structures, I prefer to share it here
>> as well -and not only to the legal team of the WMF (cced).
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Xavier Dengra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread Nicholas Perry

As others mentioned in the thread, WMF can't enforce this directly as it is
not the copyright holder. However, in past instances, we have raised the
issue with Google (similar to the KPN example) and will do so for this one
as well.

I am meeting with Google later today and will flag this to remind them of
the copyright obligations that come with using this text.

Thanks for surfacing this,

Nicholas


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>1. Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license? (Peter Southwood)
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>3. Re: [Small Wiki Toolkit] Writing Wikidata Queries Using WDQS Tool
> Workshop On Tuesday, August 30th, 16:00 UTC
>   (Seyram Komla Sapaty)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 11:18:53 +0200
> From: "Peter Southwood" 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?
> To: "'F. Xavier Dengra i Grau'" ,
> "'Wikimedia Mailing List'" 
> Message-ID: <002201d8bc51$8963c6a0$9c2b53e0$@telkomsa.net>
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="=_NextPart_000_0023_01D8BC62.4CF06730"
>
> If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF
> themselves do not own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who
> created the text. They can take this up with Google, the WMF cannot. If you
> are one of those contributors you can approach Google as misusing your
> copyright.
>
> Cheers,  Peter
>
>
>
> From: F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l [mailto:
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org]
> Sent: 29 August 2022 19:00
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List; le...@wikimedia.org
> Cc: F. Xavier Dengra i Grau
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I want to bring a legal concern here on Google's misuse of our content. It
> came up today <
> https://twitter.com/epineda/status/1564143156702199813?s=20=z2xu6PMB29vvkpNB79p2iQ>
> on Twitter that the GoogleTV app had linked a movie description text in
> Catalan language (which in principle it should be good news regarding
> language normalization). However, shortly after a wikipedian colleague
> realised that the text was fully taken by the Catalan Wikipedia. Once I
> downloaded the app by myself, I double-checked that Google does not specify
> anywhere (or at least that I could find minimally visible) that those lines
> belong to Wikipedia: neither the origin, the license, nor a link to the
> full article or to the CC license.
>
>
>
> I'd like to recall the licensing footpage on Wikipedia (Text is available
> under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License>
> ) and its conditions, as well as to ask others to check whether there's
> more situations like this one. It's worth noting how wrong this is to
> minoritised language Wikipedias: not only the legal issue itself, but also
> the lack of legitimate clicks and views that we end up losing, the
> confusion and misunderstandings from the readers that think this is a win
> by Google (the example I shared, with both screenshots enclosed), and even
> a subsequent chicken-and-egg situation that can lead to deleted articles by
> some users thinking that the content was stolen from Google and not
> actually the opposite.
>
>
>
> I remember that there was a previous thread here, not so long ago, about
> the problems of Google taking over our data and therefore diminishing
> clicks to the Wikimedia projects. Considering that I am fully against the
> GAFAM-drift that the WMF is increasingly adopting by benefiting from Google
> in our human, economical and digital structures, I prefer to share it here
> as well -and not only to the legal team of the WMF (cced).
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Xavier Dengra
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread David Gerard

yep. Asking nicely is always the best first option, and WMF is good at
that. Reusing our stuff is excellent, but correct licensing is important,
and a link back would be very nice.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 13:50, Gnangarra  wrote:

> Agree with Andy here, the WMF cant sue as the copyright holder, but they
> do have leverage and direct connections to Google to remind them of
> their obligations as a reuser to follow the copyright licensing and at the
> very least acknowledge the work from a Wikipedia.  You'd think this would
> attribution requirment be built into the Wikimedia Enterprise agreements
> anyway with some form of assurance or penalty for failing to acknowledge a
> location where in the movement a fact came from.
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 20:40, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 10:18, Peter Southwood
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF
>> themselves do not
>> > own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who created the
>> text. They can take
>> > this up with Google,
>>
>> All of the above is true.
>>
>> > the WMF cannot
>>
>> That is not true. The WMF cannot sue Google as a copyright holder.
>> However, there is nothing stopping WM from raising the issue with
>> Google, and gently reminding them of their obligations. Indeed, that
>> would probably be more effective than individual editors doing so.
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> https://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread Gnangarra

Agree with Andy here, the WMF cant sue as the copyright holder, but they do
have leverage and direct connections to Google to remind them of
their obligations as a reuser to follow the copyright licensing and at the
very least acknowledge the work from a Wikipedia.  You'd think this would
attribution requirment be built into the Wikimedia Enterprise agreements
anyway with some form of assurance or penalty for failing to acknowledge a
location where in the movement a fact came from.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 20:40, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 10:18, Peter Southwood
>  wrote:
>
> > If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF
> themselves do not
> > own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who created the text.
> They can take
> > this up with Google,
>
> All of the above is true.
>
> > the WMF cannot
>
> That is not true. The WMF cannot sue Google as a copyright holder.
> However, there is nothing stopping WM from raising the issue with
> Google, and gently reminding them of their obligations. Indeed, that
> would probably be more effective than individual editors doing so.
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> https://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread Andy Mabbett

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 10:18, Peter Southwood
 wrote:

> If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF themselves 
> do not
> own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who created the text. They 
> can take
> this up with Google,

All of the above is true.

> the WMF cannot

That is not true. The WMF cannot sue Google as a copyright holder.
However, there is nothing stopping WM from raising the issue with
Google, and gently reminding them of their obligations. Indeed, that
would probably be more effective than individual editors doing so.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
https://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Small Wiki Toolkit] Writing Wikidata Queries Using WDQS Tool Workshop On Tuesday, August 30th, 16:00 UTC

2022-08-30 Thread Seyram Komla Sapaty

Hello everyone,

This is a friendly reminder that the workshop

starts in ~5 hours time  (UTC 16:00).

Correction:
The previous message pointed to the wrong etherpad doc.
The correct link is here
.
The description should have also read:
*"This workshop will cover aspects of using the Wikidata Query Service,
with some discussion of ways in which Wikipedias can take advantage of its
capabilities for their own improvement."*

See you soon!




On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 5:47 PM Seyram Komla Sapaty 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> The seventh workshop on the topic of "Writing Wikidata queries using the
> WDQS tool" is coming up - it will take place on Tuesday, August 30th at
> 16:00 UTC.
> You can find more details on the workshop and a link to join here
> 
> [1].
>
> This session will focus on how to access and save information to Wikidata,
> including through page generators and queries++, using pywikibot.
> It will also cover the Wikidata conventions about bot-editing, including
> the bot approvals process.
>
> To participate in this workshop, you would need basic familiarity with
> Wikidata and Pywikibot installation.
> You can add your discussion ideas on the etherpad doc
> .[2]
>
> We look forward to your participation!
>
> [1]:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Workshops#Writing_Wikidata_queries_using_the_WDQS_tool
> [2]: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/swt-wikidata-pywikibot-scripts
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Seyram Komla Sapaty
> Developer Advocate
> Wikimedia Cloud Services
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread Ciell Wikipedia

We had a similar problem with the Dutch KPN interactive tv six years ago,
and as members of the Dutch WP community contacted the tv provider KPN, who
referred us to Metrological  for the issue.
Metrological has been very responsive and with the next update of the tv
app the copyright claim was replaced by a cc-by-sa notice for all three tv
providers (KPN, Telfort and XS4All) they served.
As I mentioned, this was in 2016, and I have no idea how the situation is
nowadays, but back then just sending an email and reaching out about the
wrong copyright claim worked for us.

Best,
Ciell


Op di 30 aug. 2022 om 00:41 schreef F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l
:

> Hi all,
>
> I want to bring a legal concern here on Google's misuse of our content. It
> came up today on Twitter
> 
> that the GoogleTV app had linked a movie description text in Catalan
> language (which in principle it should be good news regarding language
> normalization). However, shortly after a wikipedian colleague realised that
> the text was fully taken by the Catalan Wikipedia. Once I downloaded the
> app by myself, I double-checked that Google does not specify anywhere (or
> at least that I could find minimally visible) that those lines belong to
> Wikipedia: neither the origin, the license, nor a link to the full article
> or to the CC license.
>
> I'd like to recall the licensing footpage on Wikipedia (*Text is
> available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0
> *)
> and its conditions, as well as to ask others to check whether there's more
> situations like this one. It's worth noting how wrong this is to
> minoritised language Wikipedias: not only the legal issue itself, but also
> the lack of legitimate clicks and views that we end up losing, the
> confusion and misunderstandings from the readers that think this is a win
> by Google (the example I shared, with both screenshots enclosed), and even
> a subsequent chicken-and-egg situation that can lead to deleted articles by
> some users thinking that the content was stolen from Google and not
> actually the opposite.
>
> I remember that there was a previous thread here, not so long ago, about
> the problems of Google taking over our data and therefore diminishing
> clicks to the Wikimedia projects. Considering that I am fully against the
> GAFAM-drift that the WMF is increasingly adopting by benefiting from Google
> in our human, economical and digital structures, I prefer to share it here
> as well -and not only to the legal team of the WMF (cced).
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Xavier Dengra
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread Peter Southwood

If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF themselves do 
not own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who created the text. 
They can take this up with Google, the WMF cannot. If you are one of those 
contributors you can approach Google as misusing your copyright.

Cheers,  Peter

 

From: F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l 
[mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org] 
Sent: 29 August 2022 19:00
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Cc: F. Xavier Dengra i Grau
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

 

Hi all,

 

I want to bring a legal concern here on Google's misuse of our content. It came 
up today 

  on Twitter that the GoogleTV app had linked a movie description text in 
Catalan language (which in principle it should be good news regarding language 
normalization). However, shortly after a wikipedian colleague realised that the 
text was fully taken by the Catalan Wikipedia. Once I downloaded the app by 
myself, I double-checked that Google does not specify anywhere (or at least 
that I could find minimally visible) that those lines belong to Wikipedia: 
neither the origin, the license, nor a link to the full article or to the CC 
license.

 

I'd like to recall the licensing footpage on Wikipedia (Text is available under 
the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 

 ) and its conditions, as well as to ask others to check whether there's more 
situations like this one. It's worth noting how wrong this is to minoritised 
language Wikipedias: not only the legal issue itself, but also the lack of 
legitimate clicks and views that we end up losing, the confusion and 
misunderstandings from the readers that think this is a win by Google (the 
example I shared, with both screenshots enclosed), and even a subsequent 
chicken-and-egg situation that can lead to deleted articles by some users 
thinking that the content was stolen from Google and not actually the opposite.

 

I remember that there was a previous thread here, not so long ago, about the 
problems of Google taking over our data and therefore diminishing clicks to the 
Wikimedia projects. Considering that I am fully against the GAFAM-drift that 
the WMF is increasingly adopting by benefiting from Google in our human, 
economical and digital structures, I prefer to share it here as well -and not 
only to the legal team of the WMF (cced). 

 

Kind regards,

 

Xavier Dengra

 

 

 


 

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