[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Civvì 
Is this small text (linking the original article) "This page may contain
content developed from Wikipedia
 or Meta
."  in the footer, enough to comply with the
CC BY-SA requirements?
shouldn't the link be in the article itself somewhere?

Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 13:01 David Gerard 
ha scritto:

> what do you expect from an encyclopedia founded by world-famous
> communist Jimmy Wales
>
>  -d.
>
> On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 08:52, Vi to  wrote:
> >
> > Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation
> = Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply
> that they actually think that.
> >>
> >> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.
> >>
> >> Galder
> >> 
> >> From: Lauren Worden 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
> >>
> >> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
> >> bias I can find on
> >> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
> >> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
> >> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
> >>
> >> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
> >>
> >> -LW
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Justapedia
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
> "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in
> determining "truth" suggests.
> >> >
> >> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
> >> >
> >> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
> regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve
> to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are
> required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
> >> >
> >> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
> >> >
> >> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
> >> >
> >> > ___
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Doug Weller 
Can anyone find any members of the boards besides Atsme?
Doug Weller
English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight
Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller



On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:15 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation =
> Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply
> that they actually think that.
>
> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.
>
> Galder
> --
> *From:* Lauren Worden 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List 
> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
>
> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
> bias I can find on
> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
>
> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
>
> -LW
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Justapedia
> >
> >
> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
> "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in
> determining "truth" suggests.
> >
> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
> >
> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
> regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve
> to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are
> required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
> >
> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
> >
> >
> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
> >
> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Gnangarra 
thinking that perhaps CC-by-sa needs to reinstate moral rights(removed with
3.0) to stop misuse of content by such sites.

On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 20:40, Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
ndahiroder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How amazing it would be , if discussions like these were hosted somewhere
> else other than this mailing list 
>
> derrick
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 at 13:01 David Gerard  wrote:
>
>> what do you expect from an encyclopedia founded by world-famous
>> communist Jimmy Wales
>>
>>  -d.
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 08:52, Vi to  wrote:
>> >
>> > Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.
>> >
>> > Vito
>> >
>> > Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
>> galder...@hotmail.com> ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information +
>> Disinformation = Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn
>> diagram is, or simply that they actually think that.
>> >>
>> >> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into
>> oblivion.
>> >>
>> >> Galder
>> >> 
>> >> From: Lauren Worden 
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
>> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>> >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
>> >>
>> >> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
>> >> bias I can find on
>> >> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
>> >> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
>> >> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
>> >>
>> >> -LW
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett <
>> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Justapedia
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
>> "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in
>> determining "truth" suggests.
>> >> >
>> >> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
>> >> >
>> >> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
>> regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve
>> to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are
>> required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
>> >> >
>> >> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
>> >> >
>> >> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
>> >> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Todd Allen 
Well, nothing is stopping you from discussing it anywhere else you like.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:39 AM Ndahiro Derrick Alter 
wrote:

> How amazing it would be , if discussions like these were hosted somewhere
> else other than this mailing list 
>
> derrick
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 at 13:01 David Gerard  wrote:
>
>> what do you expect from an encyclopedia founded by world-famous
>> communist Jimmy Wales
>>
>>  -d.
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 08:52, Vi to  wrote:
>> >
>> > Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.
>> >
>> > Vito
>> >
>> > Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
>> galder...@hotmail.com> ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information +
>> Disinformation = Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn
>> diagram is, or simply that they actually think that.
>> >>
>> >> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into
>> oblivion.
>> >>
>> >> Galder
>> >> 
>> >> From: Lauren Worden 
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
>> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>> >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
>> >>
>> >> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
>> >> bias I can find on
>> >> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
>> >> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
>> >> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
>> >>
>> >> -LW
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett <
>> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Justapedia
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
>> "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in
>> determining "truth" suggests.
>> >> >
>> >> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
>> >> >
>> >> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
>> regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve
>> to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are
>> required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
>> >> >
>> >> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
>> >> >
>> >> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
>> >> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Ndahiro Derrick Alter 
How amazing it would be , if discussions like these were hosted somewhere
else other than this mailing list 

derrick


On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 at 13:01 David Gerard  wrote:

> what do you expect from an encyclopedia founded by world-famous
> communist Jimmy Wales
>
>  -d.
>
> On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 08:52, Vi to  wrote:
> >
> > Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder...@hotmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation
> = Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply
> that they actually think that.
> >>
> >> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.
> >>
> >> Galder
> >> 
> >> From: Lauren Worden 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
> >>
> >> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
> >> bias I can find on
> >> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
> >> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
> >> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
> >>
> >> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
> >>
> >> -LW
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Justapedia
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
> "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in
> determining "truth" suggests.
> >> >
> >> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
> >> >
> >> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
> regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve
> to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are
> required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
> >> >
> >> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
> >> >
> >> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
> >> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread David Gerard 
what do you expect from an encyclopedia founded by world-famous
communist Jimmy Wales

 -d.

On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 08:52, Vi to  wrote:
>
> Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga 
>  ha scritto:
>>
>> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation = 
>> Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply 
>> that they actually think that.
>>
>> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.
>>
>> Galder
>> 
>> From: Lauren Worden 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
>>
>> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
>> bias I can find on
>> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
>> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
>> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
>>
>> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
>>
>> -LW
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Justapedia
>> >
>> >
>> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows 
>> > "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in 
>> > determining "truth" suggests.
>> >
>> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
>> >
>> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions 
>> > regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve 
>> > to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are 
>> > required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
>> >
>> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
>> >
>> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
>> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Vi to 
Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.

Vito

Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> ha scritto:

> The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation =
> Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply
> that they actually think that.
>
> Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.
>
> Galder
> --
> *From:* Lauren Worden 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List 
> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
>
> The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
> bias I can find on
> https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
> climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
> Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
>
> Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
>
> -LW
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Justapedia
> >
> >
> > It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
> "disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in
> determining "truth" suggests.
> >
> > But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
> >
> > "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
> regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve
> to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are
> required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
> >
> >> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
> >
> >
> > Oh, please. Do better than that.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
> >
> > [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga 
The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation = 
Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply that 
they actually think that.

Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.

Galder

From: Lauren Worden 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia
bias I can find on
https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are
climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think
Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.

Perhaps Atsme can clarify?

-LW

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, 
>  wrote:
>
>> Justapedia
>
>
> It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows "disinformation" 
> and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in determining "truth" 
> suggests.
>
> But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
>
> "The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions regarding 
> the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve to resolve 
> content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are required to have a 
> high level, native understanding of written English"
>
>> Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
>
>
> Oh, please. Do better than that.
>
>
> [1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
>
> [2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
>
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