Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia-blog] [Wikimedia Announcements] Joint statement from Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK

2012-09-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 September 2012 23:00, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Please note that I have been requesting an urgent correction to this 
 statement since 21:17 today (it is now 23:00), without receiving any response 
 from the WMF.

Correcting what, exactly?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Serbia office

2012-11-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 November 2012 22:09, Filip Maljkovic dungod...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm writing to inform you that Wikimedia Serbia has opened an office in
 Belgrade

Congratulations!

 Our employee is Mile Kiš, our General Secretary

You're in safe hands, then.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser causing confusion

2012-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 November 2012 14:27, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I'm pretty sure we have an OTRS template about it.  :)

I haven't been able to find one in English, that responds to the question above.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser causing confusion

2012-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 November 2012 15:58, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Ps Andy, you are in it :)

... briefly.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recent Research report: collaboration between editors of different political affiliations, predicting box office revenue, the Essjay controversy, and more

2012-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 November 2012 19:50, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Based on an analysis of a sample of 1390 editors with known political
 affiliation – either US Democrat or Republican...

I detect a systematic bias...

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year?

2012-12-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
I would suggest piggy-backing this on OSM's annual State of the Map' event.

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On Nov 28, 2012 2:49 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM
 Subject: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year?
 To: map...@lists.wikimedia.org


 Hi folks,

 it's been a long time coming, but we're finally gearing up for putting
 some development effort into an OSM tileservice running in production
 to serve Wikimedia sites. This is being driven by the mobile team but
 obviously has lots of non-mobile use cases as well, including the
 recent Wikivoyage addition to the Wikimedia familiy. This work will
 probably not kick off before January/February 2013; before then, the
 mobile team is working to finish up the GeoData extension (
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Geodata ).

 To get broader community involvement and sync up with existing
 volunteer efforts in this area, it'd IMO be useful to plan a
 face-to-face meetup/hackfest just focused on geodata/mapping related
 development work sometime around Feb/March 2013.

 WMF is not going to organize this, but we can help sponsor travel and
 bring the key developers from our side who will work on this. Are
 there any takers for supporting a 20-30 people development event in
 Europe focused on mapping/geodata? I'm suggesting Europe because I
 know quite a few of the relevant folks are there, but am open to other
 options as well.

 Cheers,
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[Wikimedia-l] Guidance for article tranlators

2012-12-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
I wrote a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translate_us
to offer guidance to translators wishing to translate Wikipedia
articles /from/ English to other languages.

You may wish to have that translated for your own languages; or to
interwiki link pages which already exist for that purpose.

The English guidance for people translating from other language
Wikipedias /into/ English is at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] And you thought the Amazon Wikipedia books were bad

2012-12-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
Here's a good one:

http://www.amazon.com/Data-Governance-High-impact-Strategies-Definitions/dp/1743048122/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8qid=1355548609sr=8-14keywords=data+governance#_

the review says When I got the Data Governance book, I was surprised
to find that the first 80 pages were the score for Vivaldi's Gloria

On 13 December 2012 18:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://singularityhub.com/2012/12/13/patented-book-writing-system-lets-one-professor-create-hundreds-of-thousands-of-amazon-books-and-counting/

 He's patented the method, too. Hopefully he will enforce the patent.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2013-01-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jan 5, 2013 7:51 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone in IT knows that there's such a thing as charity scale, where
 you get paid less because you're working for a nonprofit in exchange
 for less stress and/or doing actual good in the world.`

Less stress? Wikipedia?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
I started something on [[WP:RIP]].
On Jan 13, 2013 12:45 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:

   Official statement from the family:
  
   http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-**
   statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of
 
 http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of
  
  
   I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog
  about
   his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be
 a
   community project.
  
   https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog
  
   -Sarah
  
 
  I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians
  (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet,
  respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the
  Foundation.
 
  I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons
  or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to
  supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep
 folks
  posted.
 
 
 Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard
 to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was
 everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that
 Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy.

 Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia
 blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community
 memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be
 recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the
 memorial referenced by his family.

 Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to
 propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many
 voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be
 great to share that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
Splendidly done. I'm mobile all day; could someone add a link to that, from
the relevant section of [[WP: RIP]], please?
On Jan 13, 2013 6:45 AM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 The blog post it out now:

 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/12/remembering-aaron-swartz-1986-2013/

 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:
   Official statement from the family:
  
   http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-**
   statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of
 
 http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of
  
  
   I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog
  about
   his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could
 be a
   community project.
  
   https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog
  
   -Sarah
  
 
  I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians
  (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet,
  respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the
  Foundation.
 
  I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative
 Commons
  or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to
  supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep
 folks
  posted.
 
 
  Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's
 hard
  to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was
  everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that
  Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy.
 
  Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia
  blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community
  memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be
  recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the
  memorial referenced by his family.
 
  Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to
  propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many
  voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would
 be
  great to share that.
 
  jay
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot has now started to generate 1-1, 5 M articles of species on sv:wp

2013-01-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
 Inspired by the botgenerated articles of species made on nl:wp in late
 2010 a colleague of mine, User:Lsj, started a similar project on sv:wp
 early 2012. By October 2012 his bot had generated some 65 000 articles,
 with essentially complete coverage of all fungi and birds.

For bird species, you may wish to replicate and deploy this
en.Wikipedia template:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Xeno-canto_species


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage launch: why no blog post or press release?

2013-01-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 January 2013 21:15, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a timezone other than UTC?

Only in summer. HTH.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] WMIT bulletin no. 44: January 23, 2013

2013-01-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 January 2013 14:58, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 So, now that Wikimedia Italiano is over 1,000,000 articles, who's going to
 update the page at http://www.wikipedia.org/ to match?

Likewise on the en.Wikipedia main page:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_languages#Million_plus

(needs an admin *hint*) and other-language Wikipedias.

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[Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project

2013-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
I'd like to ask your support the project I started:

   
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/open-licensed-format-recordings-voices-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons/

asking the subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second sample
of their speaking voice, for use on those articles.

An example script is Hello, my name is [name]. I was born in [place]
and I have been [job or position] since [year].

So far, the participants:

   http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Voice_intro_project

include Sue Black, Cory Doctorow, Bill Thompson and Dave Winer; and
we've just had our first recording in French - but we need many more.

Do you know anyone who has an article about them? Do you know of tools
that would simplify the process of making ogg files, open licensing
them, and uploading them to Commons? How can we include more speakers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project

2013-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 February 2013 15:06, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and
 then make their file an ogg, or record it to ogg in a super fast way.

 it's a small, but time consuming thing to record yourself, upload it (or
 whatever) to your computer, and then figure out how to make it into an open
 license.

People could use AudioBoo, for example, if it had a Flickr-like way
for uploaders to open-license a recoding. I'ive reached out to them
suggesting that, with no luck yet.

I'm also looking at http://croak.it/.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project

2013-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 February 2013 15:27, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:
 This sounds interesting, but what is the purpose? I happen to be a subject
 of a Wikipedia article, is the idea that anybody would get a chance to hear
 what accent do I have? I am not sure I would like this.

The reasons are explained in the blog post to which I linked

If you don't want to do it, then of course, don't.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voice Intro Project

2013-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 February 2013 14:57, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Andy - have you thought about putting a project page on Wikipedia and not
 just hosting it on your blog ?

Yes; I have a rewrite for that purpose, on my to-do list.

 I saw your Tweet about doing this, I just..well..haven't sat down and done
 it yet. And I hate my recorded voice. O_o

Who doesn't ;-) I'm sure your recording will be worth waiting for.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interesting research?

2013-02-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
A friend of mine wrote a thesis based on the genres used to describe
bands and albums by \Wikipedia and other networks. I'll introduce to
you Twitter.

On 18 February 2013 15:10, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 A speculative question: what's the most novel, thought-provoking, or
 otherwise interesting piece of research you've seen, either

 a) using information from Wikipedia (ie extracted text), or
 b) looking at Wikipedia itself as a subject?

 I'm giving a talk next month which will cover research about/with WP
 and other WM projects, and I'm curious to know what people think would
 be most interesting as examples. I've a few, but the things I find
 interesting are often unusual :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Longest living hoax?

2013-03-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 5 March 2013 17:21, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't see the deleted article, but I bet it was basically orphaned

What were its page view stats? (I'm mobile. So can't easily check)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2013 18:18, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can see the proposal at:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_Association

That and its talk page do not seem very current (last updated 12
January and, apart form a single post, 17 December last year,
respectively).


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tweet this page from some or all sites???

2013-04-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 April 2013 13:46, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
 I really don't understand what's the supposed barriers, you can save the
 whole page to send it, copy/paste the whole page, send the direct URL. What
 the use case where current possibilities would prevent one to share this
 knowledge?

Yes, people can do those things, but they are more likely to do so if
we make it /easier/ for them; by enabling sharing with a single click.
We need to remember that not everyone has our skills and experience
with digital tools.

There's a reason why many high profile sites include social media
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 May 2013 14:46, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote:

 Given the foundation's recent tsunami of centralisation I'm not surprised
 by this at all.

Sad to say, this chimes with the Foundation's recent decision to
consult on changes to en.Wikipedia's method of notifying users that
they have a talk page message, and then to reject the overwhelming
consensus (to return the familiar orange bar, at least while other
options are discussed) of that consultation.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 May 2013 15:36, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 Yeah, I think you're right. It seems to be part of a larger pattern.

+ Withdrawal of the ability to use WMF logos/ wordmarks in community
projects, such as QRpedia.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 13 May 2013 18:01, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:

.You bring
 up Echo; yes, we didn't bring the Orange Bar back. But we spent a lot of
 cycles coming up with alternatives, running them past people, with many
 editors and many staffers actively engaged in the process. We had
 designers, developers, product managers participating in the discussion,

And still you miss (if not ignore) the point; you removed something
which was useful; consensus - supported by justifications and
experience - was that it should be restored, and you ignored that
consensus.

You consulted on options including that restoration; and when it it
was supported, you disregarded it out-of-hand.

You (collectively) made unsupportable assertions and accusations, and
resorted to snide comments when called on them.

 and in the end we came up with something that everyone, well, begrudgingly
 tolerates.

And that's just downright false.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] All the lakes in Sweden

2013-05-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 May 2013 18:36, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
 All lakes (3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now
 produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake
 environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to
 register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.

 The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care
 of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the
 same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)

Are these all on OpenStreetMap, too?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] making tech journalism easier to read

2013-05-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
Yes, use the ABBR tag in HTML.

(Apologies for top-posting, on mobile at airport)
On May 22, 2013 8:07 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 I think what is even more helpful to people, is to avoid abbreviations as
 much as possible, or explain them. For example:
 * Up-Goer 5 (but there was a link next to it - which allows you to guess
 what it means)
 * SMOG (the stuff that is in the air, right?)
 * FKT

 Usually this kind of abbreviations (without in-text explanation) makes
 texts much harder to read. Even a link to an explanation is usually less
 helpful than a few words of what it actually is (especially when reading
 offline - yes, that world still exists).

 Anyway, aside from that, I think Quim has a point that jargon is much more
 dangerous than complicated words. However, don't underestimate the amount
 of non-native volunteers. I have all too often heard at meetings that
 people felt insecure to participate in a discussion because they felt it
 was above their level. Some native speakers have the habit of going all
 wild with complicated words (this is not too common, gladly) and then you
 realize that texts with long sentences with lots of long complicated words
 are much harder to understand, even if you understand each word by itself.

 So this score thing Sumana linked to might indeed be helpful, but probably
 only at longer texts. At short texts there is not enough critical mass to
 be precise.

 Lodewijk


 2013/5/22 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

  Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
  When you're trying to write a blog.wikimedia.org entry or
  wikitech-ambassadors email about a technical topic, but you want to make
  sure nontechnical Wikimedians can read it, is there an automated check
  you can run through?
 
  I'd recommend doing what we do on the wiki to make topics easier or more
  accessible: include a lot of links. The blog is worryingly low on links
 in
  each post, given that it's the blog of Wikimedia, king of [[links]].
  Perhaps linking needs to be made easier in WordPress?
 
  I'm not sure there's much else to be said other than avoid the use of
  (unexplained) jargon and write clearly and concisely.
 
  The Wikimedia blog is made up of several sub-blogs. The tech blog seems
  like it would inherently be more... technical than the community blog or
  the fundraising blog. Unless the larger issue is the audience question.
  That's a bit of a rabbit hole, though.
 
  MZMcBride
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
We'd should ask the NSA if they'd like a Wikipedian-in-Residence.

Think of the citations we could add to BLPs!
On Jun 10, 2013 2:17 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is a simple question with a potentially very complicated answer.

 What, if any, are the implications of the PRISM scandal for Wikimedia?
 Does the fact that our servers are based in the US now compromise our
 mission either in a technical, privacy or an ethical sense?


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013-06-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
 PRISM

From @ShammaBoyarin on Twitter: Its not as if the NSA were mass
downloading articles from JSTOR.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Research:Anatomy of English Wikipedia Did You Know traffic

2013-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2013 12:31, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 One point to remember when comparing views of DYKs with other processes
 such as GAs is that DYKs get a slot on the mainpage. In that sense they are
 best compared to in the news items and the Featured Article of the Day.
 Though I'm pretty sure they don't individually get as many hits as the
 latter.

Another factor to bear in mind is mobile views: TFA appears on the
mobile home page, but DYK does not.

One recent anniversary related TFA appeared on the same day as a
Google Doodle for the subject.

[I'm not in the research mailing list]

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The failure of Google, looking for open source alternatives

2013-08-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 August 2013 21:45, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote:

 this is one point where WMF _may_ be able to help,

We already have Special:Nearby
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby It shouldn't be a
great leap to make (the back end of) that page emit a KML file (it's a
list of geocoded articles, after all) and pass them to Google., or
indeed another KML-compatible service.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] State of the Map 2013 - OSM conference in Birmingham, England.

2013-08-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 August 2013 11:07, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I *may* be coming - I haven't decided yet... although I know I have to make
 up my mind quite soon!

It would be lovely to see you; would you like to bring (or otherwise
post me) 200 WMUK flyers? (Most attendees will know about Wikipedia 
WMF, but probably not the chapter).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] State of the Map 2013 - OSM conference in Birmingham, England.

2013-08-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
300, please, if not too late - just seen the latest booking stats ;-)

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On Aug 28, 2013 12:29 PM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 I will get some in the post to you today Andy.

 Richard Symonds
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0992

 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

 *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
 over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


 On 28 August 2013 12:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

  On 28 August 2013 11:07, Richard Symonds
  richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
   I *may* be coming - I haven't decided yet... although I know I have to
  make
   up my mind quite soon!
 
  It would be lovely to see you; would you like to bring (or otherwise
  post me) 200 WMUK flyers? (Most attendees will know about Wikipedia 
  WMF, but probably not the chapter).
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] State of the Map 2013 - OSM conference in Birmingham, England.

2013-08-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 August 2013 12:48, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Andy, about 230 flyers are in the post and on their way to you.

Thank you. The organisers have kindly agreed to include them in the
delegate packs (which I'll be stuffing on Thursday).


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] access to journals

2013-09-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 24 September 2013 14:06, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm now working for the National Library of Australia and we offer free, at
 home, access to JSTOR and MANY other restricted access databases to any
 Australian, if they get a free library card.

 Is this unique to Australia?

My free library subscription in Birmingham, England, gets me access -
from home or indeed anywhere else - to a number of otherwise-paywalled
online databases and services http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/libsubs.
These include:

  * Credo Reference
  * Naxos Music Library - streaming classicall  other music
  * Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
  * Oxford English Dictionary
  * Oxford Reference Online
  * Times Digital Archive - complete from 1785 - 1985

and more besides. But not JSTOR.

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[Wikimedia-l] A five-minute task new volunteers can do

2013-12-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've just blogged about a five-minute task new volunteers can do:

   http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/help-wikipedia-wikimedia-commons-transcribe-text/

transcribing small pieces of text in images such as foundation stones
or signposts.

Please feel free to circulate that through your networks, especially
outside the existing Wikimedia community

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 December 2013 19:40, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 With a nod to Andy's comment, as a
 community I think we may want to review our progress in the last few
 years on the BLP issue, and have a broad community consultation about
 where we are still falling short and ideas for going forward, given
 our constraints and changing environment of readers and editors.

I didn't make a comment; I requested information:

Please also provide a link to the consultation you carried out
 with the community, before making this change. I seem to have
 missed it.

Oddly, I seem to have missed the response, also.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 14 December 2013 00:30, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't make a comment; I requested information:

 Please also provide a link to the consultation you carried out
  with the community, before making this change. I seem to have
  missed it.

 Oddly, I seem to have missed the response, also.

 Well, with such a pointed comment, I assumed you were trying to make a
 point about the value of community consultations, so that's what I
 responded to.

To reiterate, I didn't make a comment; I requested information.

[...]

 So no, we didn't have a broad community consultation on
 this particular amendment

Thank you for making that clear.

 there have been many related discussions on Commons and
 Wikipedia over the years.

Indeed there have. But until a widely-advertised consultation is held
(advertised in the manner of the recent discussion on logos and
branding), we wont know the views of the community at large, rather
than those who have an axe to grind. We won't know, for instance,
whether the amendment goes too far, or not far enough, in reflecting
the communities wishes.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 14 December 2013 15:55, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 Andy Mabbett wrote:

until a widely-advertised consultation is held
(advertised in the manner of the recent discussion on logos and
branding), we wont know the views of the community at large, rather
than those who have an axe to grind.

 Your logic here is broken.

Charmed, I'm sure.

[Snip opinion which in no way demonstrates broken logic]

 We won't know, for instance, whether the amendment goes too far,  or not 
 far enough, in reflecting the communities wishes.

 I think what you're saying here is neither fair nor accurate.

In that I should have written community's, or arguably,
communities', perhaps. But not otherwise.

[Snip more opinion]

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The British Library releases 1 million images

2013-12-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 December 2013 16:08, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada emi...@gmail.com quoted:

 We have released over a million
 imageshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/britishlibraryonto Flickr Commons

Please note that we have a project page, for discussion of importing
these images to Commons in a sensible manner:

   
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:British_Library/Mechanical_Curator_collection

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The British Library releases 1 million images

2013-12-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 December 2013 17:39, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

 The images release contained no image-level metadata == One million
 uncategorised images == Commons community raise up in arms

The images contain metadata, which could be used for categorisation,at
the book level.

The whole point of the wiki model is that we make incremental steps
towards completion.

An analogy could be drawn with Wikipedia's stub articles.

It's not good for us to lobby institutions to release media, and then
decline to accept it.

I would have liked the release to have been direct to Commons; at
least, I would have liked the opportunity to debate whether to accept
it. I hope that the next tome such an release is being considered, we
will be in a better position to facilitate the former.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 December 2013 18:45, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 2) Who are the officers / trustees of Cultural Outreach Ltd and how are
 they chosen?

See https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Cultural_Outreach_Limited

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[Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2013-12-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
Here's an interesting article:

   Rapunzel and the Ivory Tower: How Open Access Will
   Save the Humanities (from Themselves)

   http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1302.2013.865977

in which Wikipedia is discussed.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
Thanks for clarifying.

On 21 December 2013 15:29, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 Crossed wires I think.

 Jon was probably referring to the internal agreement between WMUK and its 
 subsidiary Cultural Outreach whereby WMUK will pay the domain name renewal 
 fees. That simply allows us to maintain a non trading status for Cultural 
 Outreach which keeps legal fees to a minimum.

 QRpedia is and will remain free for use by anyone, without any need for an 
 agreement or approval from WMUK.

 Michael

 On 21 Dec 2013, at 14:25, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 21 December 2013 09:02, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 3) Are there already or will there need to be
 cross agreements between WMF and other
 Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?

 Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.

 This seems to imply that QRpedia will no longer be freely and openly
 available for anyone to use, as it has been from inception. I hope
 that's not the case, but would be grateful for assurances.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Porn blocking in the UK: en:wp blocks on O2

2013-12-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit.

Isn't the plan to make this opt-out in the near future?

Even if not, if were being blocked under misleading or inapplicable
categories, we have a right (and a duty) to protest.

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[Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

2014-01-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
[Cross-posted ]

The Speakerthon event is in progress at New Broadcasting House in London:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project

We've already added sound files to the (English) Wikipedia articles on
Tim Berners-Lee, Agnetha Fältskog, Stanley Johnson and Adrian Lester,
with many more uploaded and awaiting templating:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BBC_voice_samples

Volunteers are beavering away, finding more sound clips to upload.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

2014-01-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 January 2014 11:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 The Speakerthon event is in progress at New Broadcasting House in London

Everything is gong well. If people want to help from home (or the
pub), then the files in:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BBC_voice_samples

need to be categorised, and inserted into articles, as described at

  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project

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[Wikimedia-l] Audio and video help for mobile users

2014-01-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
[cross-posted]

Following discussion at:

 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#FLAC_on_Apple_devices,

about the difficulty of playing Wikimedia audio and video on mobile
devices, we've added red links to:

  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Media_help

for iOS and Android.

I'm sure some of the readers of these lists have the requisite
knowledge, to populate those pages; so please do!

The issue arose during a project I've been running with the BBC:

  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project

in which they've released clips of broadcast material under open
licence, for the first time.

Assisting mobile users to play our media more easily will lend weight
to future requests to them and other archive holders, to release
audio-visual resources under open licences.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 January 2014 08:35, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are many ways to skin a cat. The most obvious
 one is to add a {{Reasonator}} template as a place
 holder in a Wikipedia. Another is to capture a not
 found or a red link and insert Reasonator info. What
 I am trying to do is to give a sense of direction. I am
 not indicating how it will be done for sure.

[I'm not on the devs list, so trimmed from the CC]

I would like people to be able to subst that template (or have a big
button that does the same thing), and have some code draft a stub
article based on the statements in Wikidata, say:

 X was a German painter born in [[Munich]] on
 27 May 1801. He died in [[Berlin]] on 3
 March 1899

with formatted references, a reflist template, and a pre-populated
infobox. It would be delivered in preview state, allowing further
editing before publication.

A suitably prominent warning would alert editors that they still bear
responsibility for ensuring that the subject is notable, and the
article fit for publication, according to local standards. A hidden
category and/or an edit tag would allow tracking.

Because of the complexity of this task, we could pilot it for one type
of subject (say, buildings, or people, or even a subset of one of
those) in one or two languages.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box would be
 the main attraction; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata
 information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to do
 is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the
 wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an infobox
 with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech ;-)

Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.

Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
Your link has gone very wrong. I would wait the suggested half hour
before telling you this, but by then I hope to be asleep.

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On Feb 7, 2014 4:42 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hoi,

 We have often had discussions about generating texts to be used in
 Wikipedia articles. The drawback of articles that are generated in this way
 is that they do not get updated as more information becomes available.

 The data in Wikidata is comparable with the kind of data often used in such
 processes.

 The first kind texts that are generated bu the Reasonator are based on the
 biographic information of a person. As Johann Sebastian Bach is a great
 example of the power of both Wikidata and Reasonator, I invite you to have
 a look [1].

 The text is completely generated based on the information in Wikidata and
 Magnus is very much in the process of iterating this functionality. What I
 hope you will see as a challenge is writing similar functionality for other
 languages.

 What I hope for is that the Wikidata development team will appreciate this
 for what its potential and support it when it is found that additional
 technology is needed.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

2014-02-12 Thread Andy Mabbett

On 12 February 2014 21:16, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:

[...]

Congratulations to Frank, but...

 The Wiki Education
 Foundation, a new nonprofit organization that supports the Wikipedia
 Education Program in the United States and Canada

...why isn't this called The Wiki Education North America
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

2014-02-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 13 February 2014 06:30, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Rather than just answer your concerns

But you haven't done. Will anyone?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back

2014-04-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 April 2014 21:47, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those who care, I'm back.

This is obviously connected to the fact that tonight I drank the
bottle of Jelen Pivo that I brought back from Belgrade!

 My absence wasn't related to Wikimedia. It was about first world
 problems, which hit me quite hard.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back

2014-04-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 April 2014 14:20, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it
 in Pristina? Or not? :P

Unfortunately, I remember both drinking the lovely Rakija, and the
morning after...

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities

2014-05-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
Jimmy Wales was recently asked, on Twitter:

   How do you collaborate with Universities?
   https://mobile.twitter.com/AarhusUni/status/460706953795502080

to which he replied:

   Right now mostly through our GLAM programs (galleries,
   libraries, museums).
   https://mobile.twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/460711968698281984

While it's nice go see GLAM recognised (the A stands for Archives,
BTW), that's a bit of a slap to our colleagues who work on education
projects.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to Criticize with Kindness

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 14 May 2014 14:26, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote:

 How to compose a successful critical commentary [...]

That strikes me as very long winded, and so not conducive to a
succinct email exchange.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to Criticize with Kindness

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2014 12:22, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
  How to compose a successful critical commentary [...]

 That strikes me as very long winded, and so not conducive to a
 succinct email exchange.


 This style of communication is indeed quite longwinded and can be rather
 cumbersome. It also creates somewhat of a mess in mailinglist archives, and
 makes it far more difficult to find the exact point. It can also come
 across as condescending, which can make it counterproductive, and not only
 not worth the trouble, but actively harmful. There are definitely cases
 where this style isn't a good idea. I should try to keep that in mind more
 often.

Thanks for the demonstration.

 That said

Sorry, tl;dr

;-)


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect

2014-05-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 May 2014 13:38, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote:
 The wording regarding the quorum to hold an exceptional general assembly has
 been changed from “members” to “active members”.

How is active members defined?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost is (sort of) published

2014-06-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 June 2014 11:17, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 We need a password for the automated publishing process that we don't have, 
 and we're trying to get it. I have been working through some of the 
 (complicated and poorly documented) Signpost templates and LivingBot for 
 manual publication but there are still parts that I can't work out.

Why does such as an important service have a critical single point of
failure? What changes will be made, as a result of the lessons
learned from this?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost is (sort of) published

2014-06-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 June 2014 23:15, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, I don't think we're learning anything new here -- the signpost has
 always been produced by volunteers, and has often had a somewhat irregular
 publication schedule.

I wasn't querying any irregualr publication schedule; I was asking why
its seems Signpost relies on a single person, whose unavailability
causes the issues described.

 I think Pine is trying to do his/her best to get through an immediate
 challenge

I'm sure so too; that's why I didn't say anything to suggest otherwise.

 and I'm not sure it's fair to him/her to use this as an excuse
 to bring up a topic that could be broached at any time.

An excuse? We're told something has gone wrong; I asked what steps
are being taken to prevent a recurrence.

 At minimum, it
 seems best to wait until this issue had shipped, and Ed has returned to an
 Internet enabled location, before giving into the broader questions.

I didn't set a deadline for a reply to my question.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor on English Wikipedia

2014-06-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 June 2014 08:02, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I have started to draft an RfC about re-enabling VE on English Wikipedia

URL?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stop the New Privacy Policy until Lila is Thoroughly Briefed on It, Countdown 14 Hours

2014-06-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 5 June 2014 17:21, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote:
 I am writing to ask that the new privacy policy be stopped, pending briefings 
 of and thorough consideration by the incoming executive director Lila 
 Tretikov.

Regardless of the merits of the policy, which others have addressed,
and with all due respect to Lila, her arrival has no bearing on this.
She's the CEO, and a change of CEO does not invalidate the WMF or
community processes used, nor decisions reached, under her
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedian in Residence at ORCID

2014-06-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
As of today, I am Wikipedian in Residence [1] at ORCID [2].
The role is described in [3]. Please let me know if I can assist you,
in that capacity.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ORCID

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID

[3] 
http://orcid.org/blog/2014/06/04/announcing-orcid%E2%80%99s-wikipedian-residence

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedian in Residence at ORCID

2014-06-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
Before I migrate them manually (adding to Wikidata *and* removing from
Wikipedia), how easily could a script (something like AWB?) or a bot
do so?

On 12 June 2014 08:48, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
 And then, we discover tools long present:

 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php?language=enproject=wikipediacategory=Wikipedia%20articles%20with%20ORCID%20identifiersdepth=0wdq=claim%5B496%5Dmode=cat_no_wdqstatementlist=run=Runlabel_contains=label_contains_not=chunk_size=1

 All en.wp pages with ORCID IDs that are not yet in Wikidata.

 Cheers,
 Magnus


 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hoi,
 With some regularity the {{authority control}} usage is mined for data
 missing in Wikidata. Once it is, references can be taken away in
 Wikipedia... and as far as I know this happens as well.

 For Victor Anatolyevich Vassiliev for instance there is nothing in
 en.Wikipedia about ORCID.
 Thanks,
  GerardM


 On 12 June 2014 00:40, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Gerard! However, I meant getting a list article subjects who have
 an
  ORCID that we haven't already put in Wikidata, so we can update Wikidata!
  :)
 
  best,
  Phoebe
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
  gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   Hoi,
   Actually it is not that hard [1] to find who has an ORCID.
   Thanks,
Gerard
  
   [1]
  
  
 
 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php?language=enproject=wikipediacategory=depth=12wdq=claim%5B31%3A5%5D%20and%20claim%5B496%5Dmode=cat_and_wdqstatementlist=run=Runlabel_contains=label_contains_not=chunk_size=1
  
  
  
  
  
   On 11 June 2014 03:39, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Andy Mabbett 
   a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
   
 As of today, I am Wikipedian in Residence [1] at ORCID [2].
 The role is described in [3]. Please let me know if I can assist
 you,
 in that capacity.

 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ORCID

 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID

 [3]

   
  
 
 http://orcid.org/blog/2014/06/04/announcing-orcid%E2%80%99s-wikipedian-residence

 --
 Andy Mabbett
 @pigsonthewing
 http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
   
   
   
Congrats, Andy!
   
Coincidentally, as part of my day job, I was just looking into how we
   treat
ORCIDs and other author ID schemes in Wikidata. One thing I
 discovered
poking around by hand is that it is quite difficult to match up who
 has
ORCIDs (not every researcher) with who has a Wikipedia article (also
  not
every researcher). I think it would be great to use ORCID's API to
  search
for article subjects who might have ORCIDs (though I think that list
   would
have to be confirmed/matched by hand, because of lots of ambiguity
  around
similar names in ORCID if there's no other information -- maybe a
 task
   for
another Wikidata game :) )
   
Anyway, I'd be happy to chat offlist or somewhere else about it, but
 I
  am
glad to see they're reaching out to Wikipedia and that you're
 involved!
   
cheers,
Phoebe
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedian in Residence at ORCID

2014-06-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
So, who can do that? Or how can I (a non-coder)?

We don't seem to have a Wikidata equivalent of en.WP:BOTREQ, unless
I've missed it.


On 12 June 2014 13:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hoi
 Dead easy
 GerardM
 Op 12 jun. 2014 13:17 schreef Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:

 Before I migrate them manually (adding to Wikidata *and* removing from
 Wikipedia), how easily could a script (something like AWB?) or a bot
 do so?

 On 12 June 2014 08:48, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
  And then, we discover tools long present:
 
 
 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php?language=enproject=wikipediacategory=Wikipedia%20articles%20with%20ORCID%20identifiersdepth=0wdq=claim%5B496%5Dmode=cat_no_wdqstatementlist=run=Runlabel_contains=label_contains_not=chunk_size=1
 
  All en.wp pages with ORCID IDs that are not yet in Wikidata.
 
  Cheers,
  Magnus
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Gerard Meijssen 
 gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hoi,
  With some regularity the {{authority control}} usage is mined for data
  missing in Wikidata. Once it is, references can be taken away in
  Wikipedia... and as far as I know this happens as well.
 
  For Victor Anatolyevich Vassiliev for instance there is nothing in
  en.Wikipedia about ORCID.
  Thanks,
   GerardM
 
 
  On 12 June 2014 00:40, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks Gerard! However, I meant getting a list article subjects who
 have
  an
   ORCID that we haven't already put in Wikidata, so we can update
 Wikidata!
   :)
  
   best,
   Phoebe
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
   gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:
  
Hoi,
Actually it is not that hard [1] to find who has an ORCID.
Thanks,
 Gerard
   
[1]
   
   
  
 
 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php?language=enproject=wikipediacategory=depth=12wdq=claim%5B31%3A5%5D%20and%20claim%5B496%5Dmode=cat_and_wdqstatementlist=run=Runlabel_contains=label_contains_not=chunk_size=1
   
   
   
   
   
On 11 June 2014 03:39, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Andy Mabbett 
a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:

  As of today, I am Wikipedian in Residence [1] at ORCID [2].
  The role is described in [3]. Please let me know if I can assist
  you,
  in that capacity.
 
  [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ORCID
 
  [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID
 
  [3]
 

   
  
 
 http://orcid.org/blog/2014/06/04/announcing-orcid%E2%80%99s-wikipedian-residence
 
  --
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  @pigsonthewing
  http://pigsonthewing.org.uk



 Congrats, Andy!

 Coincidentally, as part of my day job, I was just looking into
 how we
treat
 ORCIDs and other author ID schemes in Wikidata. One thing I
  discovered
 poking around by hand is that it is quite difficult to match up
 who
  has
 ORCIDs (not every researcher) with who has a Wikipedia article
 (also
   not
 every researcher). I think it would be great to use ORCID's API to
   search
 for article subjects who might have ORCIDs (though I think that
 list
would
 have to be confirmed/matched by hand, because of lots of ambiguity
   around
 similar names in ORCID if there's no other information -- maybe a
  task
for
 another Wikidata game :) )

 Anyway, I'd be happy to chat offlist or somewhere else about it,
 but
  I
   am
 glad to see they're reaching out to Wikipedia and that you're
  involved!

 cheers,
 Phoebe

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedian in Residence at ORCID

2014-06-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 June 2014 18:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 ORCID

I've just found - and fixed - en.WP articles ([1], [2]) with ISNI's
enetred as ORCIDs (or twice, as each). Can we test for and fix this?
We should also apply that test in Wikidata.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Segal

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeana_Douglas

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es wrote:
 I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
 articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?

I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
The distinction is false. I have not (and more to the point, the many users
who know nothing about our internal workings will not have) installed a
new app; I have upgraded an existing app.

There was no mention in the list of changes, and no warning elsewhere, that
this extremely useful functionality would disappear from my device when I
did so.
On Jun 26, 2014 12:11 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi Andy,

 The new app was built in native code from the ground up. So the nearby
 feature wasn't removed as much as it was never implemented.

 I apologise if I sound pedantic, but this distinction is important; for the
 initial release of the new app, we focussed on the barebones features that
 we needed to have included as much as we possibly could while still getting
 this out of the door. The nearby feature didn't bubble up in importance as
 much as the others.

 Right now, the most requested item in our feedback channels by far is a
 dark mode for night time reading. The number of requests for that are at
 least an order of magnitude larger than requests for any other feature, so
 we're focussing our efforts on that. But nearby is definitely on our
 roadmap.

 Thanks!

 Dan




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  On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es
  wrote:
   I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
   articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?
 
  I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
  removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
to enter an edit summary.

This is troubling in itself, but it is also at odds with the WMF's new
terms of use, which require disclosure of paid edits, and suggest that that
can be made in edit summaries (among other options, equally unavailable in
the app).
On Jun 25, 2014 11:29 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is looking great.  Editing on the new app has been working very
 well for me.

 Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
 to create accounts on en:wp ...

  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?

 Sam.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 25, 2014 7:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!

Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder to
reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with a
mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
easier.

I don't doubt that astronomers and the like would prefer red-on-black.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
Apologies; my can this be configurable question was in reply to the point
on browsing history.
On Jun 26, 2014 2:19 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:


 On Jun 25, 2014 7:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!

 Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder
 to reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with
 a mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

 Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?

 - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
 feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
 inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
 easier.

 I don't doubt that astronomers and the like would prefer red-on-black.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2014 9:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no
way
  to enter an edit summary.

 You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined options
 for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
 summary.

Where?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 June 2014 03:18, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:

 On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined
 options
  for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
  summary.

 Where?

 Since phone screens are small, you may have noticed that the editing
 process is broken up over a couple of separate steps.

Of course.

 The preview stage
 gives you a chance to select some 'canned' brief edit summaries, or select
 'other' and input your own.

 Here's a screen recording I just made of the process:

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Adding_an_edit_summary_in_Wikipedia_Android_app_version_2.ogv

Thank you. I didn't see the options (buttons) for pre-selected
summaries, nor the Other option.

On further experimentation, they are hidden above the top of the
screen, and I need to scroll up to see them.

I'm using the native browser on an Android 2.3.5 device.

[As a matter of interest, what software did you use to capture the video?]

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 June 2014 12:02, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se wrote:

 I'm using the native browser on an Android 2.3.5 device.

 Then you are not using the app that this thread is talking about?

Doh! Sorry, I'm using *the app* under Android 2.3.5.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross

2014-07-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jul 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote:

 Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use
 the pictures in a way we're not happy with

That question qualifies as frequently asked; my usual answer is to the
effect that You cannot - but anyone who is going to use them maliciously
is not going to worry about niceties like copyright. The people whose
activities you limit by applying a restrictive license are the good guys -
and yourselves.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross

2014-07-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
Thank you for confirming what I  said.
On Jul 6, 2014 10:17 PM, Lilburne lilbu...@tygers-of-wrath.net wrote:

 On 04/07/2014 09:37, Andy Mabbett wrote:

 On Jul 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote:

  Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use
 the pictures in a way we're not happy with

 That question qualifies as frequently asked; my usual answer is to the
 effect that You cannot - but anyone who is going to use them maliciously
 is not going to worry about niceties like copyright. The people whose
 activities you limit by applying a restrictive license are the good guys -
 and yourselves.


 Not so Andy. Over on Commons last year someone had taken a photo of a
 woman and a horse from flickr cropped it and tagged it as Bestiality. As
 per usual the Commons porn patrol fought like cornered rats to keep it. Why
 should people have to go through that? Yeah the bad guys won't give a fig
 about the license, but the web host most certainly will. When they were
 taking photos of little kids from flickr accounts to post on Orkut and play
 age related sex games, it wasn't the complaints of the parents to the
 uploaders that got it stopped (haha luser you can't do nothing), nor
 complaints to Google (send us your 6 yo kid's drivers license), it was the
 DMCA takedowns that brought an end to it.

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/02/google_orkut_dmca/



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

2014-07-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 July 2014 00:40, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 change-aversion tends to correlate pretty strongly with impact
 on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience
 and behavior.

It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my aversion to
the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the
Android app [1].

 It's normal and expected that the first reaction to noticeable user
 experience changes will often be negative.

I've yet to hear of any positive aspects of that removal.


[1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely
reported in the press.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)

2014-07-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
 a complete re-write in native code

This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated.

 In determining the feature set, the team
 looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
 first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
 beta.

I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF
colleagues.) I did, though, spend some time testing the nearby
feature in v1's beta - and demonstrating it when promoting the app to
audiences outside the Wikipedia community.


In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've
overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)

2014-07-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
 a complete re-write in native code

This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated.

 In determining the feature set, the team
 looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
 first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
 beta.

I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF
colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the nearby feature
in v1's beta

 And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
 https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements

I can't find the string near on that page.

 The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third
 party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
 privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
 OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
 further developing such geo-functionality.

Is this a blocker for the return of the nearby feature to the app?


In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've
overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
user experience and behaviour.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

2014-07-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 July 2014 12:34, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would suggest that it doesn't become not a vote merely by not
 calling it a vote. I note all the closes that count !votes and how
 the not-voting pattern on a given AFD is frequently brought up at DRV.

Vote-counting is increasingly prevalent in template deletion
discussions (TfDs) on en.WP, too.

I raised my concerns there, in May:

   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Templates_for_discussion#Closure_decisions

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Volunteer Support Workshop - correction

2014-07-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 July 2014 16:20, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:

 For those interested in such things, the building is Wiki Loves
 Monuments-eligible, and has an article at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley's_Chapel.

But no article in German, nor any other language than Chinese.

*HINT*.

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[Wikimedia-l] Commonwealth Games

2014-07-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
Do we have anyone at the Commonwealth Games?

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[Wikimedia-l] Getting Wikipedia whitelisted for Twitter DMs

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
For some months, Twitter have been blocking most URLs in their direct
messages (DMs), supposedly as an anti-spam measure.

Do we have someone who has a contact there, who could ask them to
whitelist Wikimedia project URLs in DMs?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Getting Wikipedia whitelisted for Twitter DMs

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
Thank you.

Some URLs go though, others do not. I doubt it's random ;-)

On 3 August 2014 17:06, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 I can ask around, but I've not heard of them even having a whitelist for
 this situation - do we know for a fact that's the case?

 Luis


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 For some months, Twitter have been blocking most URLs in their direct
 messages (DMs), supposedly as an anti-spam measure.

 Do we have someone who has a contact there, who could ask them to
 whitelist Wikimedia project URLs in DMs?

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[Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
Google Scholar search results each have a cite link, which generates
citation text to copy-and-paste in three formats (MLA, APA, Chicago).

Is there someone at Google we can talk to, to get Wikipedia's citation
format included?

For English-language users (or results), the {{Cite journal}} template
is probably most appropriate.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2014 19:01, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I suspect that Google would be reluctant to add
 a Wikimedia citation format

Trove, the Australian National Library's newspaper archive, are happy to do so.

 because there is no one Wikimedia citation format.
 (Happy to be corrected on that if I'm wrong, though.)

There isn't, hence I suggested the most suitable for scholarly
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2014 20:44, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
   because there is no one Wikimedia citation format.
  (Happy to be corrected on that if I'm wrong, though.)

 There isn't, hence I suggested the most suitable for scholarly
 citations in English.


 Both Google and Wikimedia claim to be global, multi-lingual solutions. So
 both we and Google should be aiming higher.

I didn't say I didn't aim higher - but it's also pragmatic to start
with quick wins, which will help a majority of people, most of the
time.

Despite being a monoglot, I spend a good deal of time supporting
non-English projects, and multi-lingual editors; and cross-project
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the
 issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine.

Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers, and not the
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:22, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/08/2014, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the
 issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine.

 Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers,
 and not the community at large?

 The Streisand effect and just plain old oh, be nice which is much
 easier to manage in a non-public discussion (albeit on the record).

Which discussion would that be, and with whom?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4 August 2014 11:03, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the
 issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine.

 Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers, and not the
 community at large?



 Same way we deal with aggrieved emails from BLP subjects, rather than
 just posting them to BLPN - if there *is* a serious concern, it's much
 more likely to get the right answer without further damage.

That's because there's direct, private correspondence with the
individual concerned (or their agent). I see no suggestion that that
would apply in the case in question.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 08:18, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 the problem is all projects use a different format :)

 Maybe it is worth the effort to investigate if we can come to a single
 format... at least on the input side.

I believe such is being discussed, as part of the wider conversation
around using Wikidata as a repository for citations.

But that is months if not years away, and we could in the meantime
have, if we can secure Google's cooperation as proposed, a quick
solution for the majority of cases in a few days or weeks.

A hack-y work-around, if one is needed, would be for non-english sites
to aheva template called {{cite journal}}, and have that always
subst: into a ,coal template, as en.WP currently does with for
example, various de.WP infobox templates .

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:15, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if this is something that Wikidata could (eventually) handle?

I have a brain-dump about how this might work, in my user pace at:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Citations_-_the_future

For me, one of the exciting things about this is being able to quickly
and confidently see every article in which an author is cited (see
mockup, linked form that page), or in which a specific work is cited.

 Thanks for pointing out the way Trove provides a
 citation tool for easy use on (English) Wikipedia articles.

 I asked them to incorporate this into the Trove system in 2009

I supposed you might have had a hand in it. Nice work!

I imagine you would have had less success had you asked for a
different template for each language; the same would apply with
Google.

 Over the years this has proved to be hugely beneficial to Trove
 (a service of the National Library of Australia), and has generated
 thousands of deep-links to their catalogue

That's a great selling point!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:43, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 The current editing interface on the English Wikipedia has the
 cite tool which effectively does the same thing if you put in the
 ISBN

I find that often rimes out, sadly. (It works well with Google books
URLs, though.)

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[Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
This is a good read in its own right:

   
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_sell_at_any_price_reviewed_by_sarah_o_holla.html

but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving
example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive
somewhere, sent chills up my spine.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 19:24, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've wanted one of these for years: http://www.elpj.com/

How much? Maybe we should put in a grant application.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)

2014-08-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
An answer would be appreciated...
On Jul 12, 2014 1:38 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's
  a complete re-write in native code

 This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was
 updated.

  In determining the feature set, the team
  looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the
  first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the
  beta.

 I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no
 suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly
 useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal
 wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF
 colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the nearby feature
 in v1's beta

  And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello:
 
 https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements

 I can't find the string near on that page.

  The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third
  party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user
  privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own
  OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in
  further developing such geo-functionality.

 Is this a blocker for the return of the nearby feature to the app?


 In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've
 overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response
 to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty
 strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to
 user experience and behaviour.

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[Wikimedia-l] @WikipediaZero Twitter account

2014-08-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
Who owns the @WikipediaZero Twitter account? It's only ever had one
post, and that seems a missed opportunity.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 August 2014 20:12, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Thank your for your lengthy and considered post. It's clear that you
and the WMF are seeking an amicable resolution, which is to be
applauded.

Nonetheless, I'm having difficulty understanding how these two statements:

 the Wikimedia Foundation reserves the right to determine the final
 configuration of the MediaViewer feature,

 We’re absolutely not saying that WMF simply wants to be able to
 enforce its decisions

can be reconciled.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 21 August 2014 10:31, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote:
 the mobile
 website arbitrarily skips some elements visible on desktop, such as
 navboxes

I've noticed this; and other deficiencies (such as no did you know
on main page, not even as a link to a subpage).

 and significantly alter some infoboxes because it doesn't
 look good.

I'd not noticed this; can you give examples, please?



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