Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

[Chris Keating]

 I understand it represents some money to fly ~10 people to SF (though I
 guess in the end those meetings would match other global meetings such as
 Wikimedia Conference or Wikimania) every six month, but on the other hand
 the FDC is gonna be in charge of disseminating ~30million USD, some
 overseeing/steering group is clearly a need.


I agree with Christophe...

I've consistently been asking the Foundation to make sure the FDC is set up
in a transparent way, with involvement from Chapters and other
stakeholders. So it makes perfect sense to me to set up an advisory
committee to help make sure it sets out down the right path over the next
18 months, even if that entails some financial cost and some use of
volunteer time. It's vital to get this right.

Chris
(Wikimedia UK board, speaking personally...)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

[Chris Keating]

 It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San
 Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the Visual
 Editor team. James started his work as a remote contractor yesterday
 and will be joining us in San Francisco later this year as a staff
 member.


Congratulations, James!

I hope this means the Visual Editor will use the correct spellings of words
like colour, axe, and aluminium, and will offer to make people tea. :-)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Any studies on economic impact of community-produced open data?

[Chris Keating]

 One thing that came up in discussion was whether or not anyone has ever
 done any economic impact studies on Wikipedia and other community-produced
 open data and open content projects (OpenStreetMap, other Wikimedia
 projects etc.)? If civic society groups like Wikimedians,
 OpenStreetMappers, MySociety.org people etc. want to convince governments
 to put more data out, it'd be helpful to show the economic effects of this,
 or to have people who are trying to convince government to put the data out
 to have access to this kind of information so they can make better
 decisions (cue cynicism here).


There is a basic problem here in that it's difficult to account for
non-traded goods. Since no-one pays for Wikipedia, the value to the economy
appears to be zero.

An alternative methodology would be to account for the value that would be
required to replace Wikipedia if it didn't exist. As an example of this
methodology you could take the traded price of a Wikipedia substitute (e.g.
Britannica Online is £50 a year) and multiply that by the number of users,
which I'd estimate at 30 million in the UK. So the hidden value to the UK
economy of Wikipedia could be as high as £1.5 billion every year

But this might not be the most helpful answer to you. :-)

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] proposed urgent Board of Trustees resolution without a meeting

[Chris Keating]

What an odd resolution to post. But Just on this point


 whereas because of their low levels of compensation, junior foundation
 technical staff are often unable to afford housing which does not
 involve a lengthy commute from unsavory neighborhoods;[11]


[11] http://www.glassdoor.com/GD/**Job/jobs.htm?clickSource=**
 searchBtntypedKeyword=sc.**keyword=wikimedialocT=locId=http://www.glassdoor.com/GD/Job/jobs.htm?clickSource=searchBtntypedKeyword=sc.keyword=wikimedialocT=locId=


oddly enough the link here seems to be to a Wikimedia UK job, not a
foundation job, so none of the particulars apply to Foundation technical
staff at any level.

(also Wikimedia UK's staff don't have to live in unsavory neighbourhoods,
though I expect many of them do commute to work, as does virtually everyone
else working in London...)

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

[Chris Keating]

Since we don't thank each other enough in this movement.

I'd like to add my thanks, to Wikimedia Italia for the great job they did
organising their first Wikimedia conference, to everyone who spoke or
presented, to the facilitators (whose facilitation extended to trying to
find a bar with space to seat  20 Wikimedians in the pouring rain last
night*), and to everyone who took part. It was lovely to meet so many of
you.

Thanks also to the Foundation board for holding a boring meeting with no
surprises.

Chris
Wikimedia UK

* success was limited - we ended up in something called an English pub
but there was no dartboard and the beer was far too cold ;)






On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Fae faewik+g...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to give a personal thankyou to WMIT for successfully
 taking on the scary challenge of hosting the Wikimedia Conference.

 We can all see the team has put in a huge amount of effort and
 creativity into the conference. I loved visiting Milan for the first
 time, and being hosted in such a lovely venue and hotel (I can
 recommend eating out in Milan, all the food I have had here has been
 excellent). I look forward to being invited again :-D

 I'm in the feedback session right now, and I think there are excellent
 learning points to make to make life easier for our next host.

 Grazie mille!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Wikimedia Conference feedback - Grazie mille!

[Chris Keating]

(off-topic)


 And how come an English pub in Italia?! At least the grapa was good. ;)


As I mentioned to a few people at the time, the beer was mainly German,
Czech and Irish, and the spirits mainly Scottish, American, Italian and
Russian,  and the food was mainly nachos.

Might not sound very English but that's exactly like every pub in London.
:-)

I will now stop spamming the list and get on my flight.
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[Wikimedia-l] The world's most efficient charity?

[Chris Keating]

In the light of some of the discussion about overhead and fundraising cost
ratios on this list, I would like to congratulate the Arrythmia Alliance, a
UK registered charity, for two remarkable feats revealed in its annual
return to the Charity Commission:

http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1107496SubsidiaryNumber=0

* Raising £800K GBP without spending anything at all on fundraising, a
totally unbeatable fundraising ROI of infinity
* Incurring only £10,000 in overheads on their total expenditure of £1.24M
GBP

These figures are literally unbelievably good, and I hope we see nothing
similar in the Wikimedia movement in the future.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patience

[Chris Keating]

Thank you Michael for the thoughtful post!

I very much agree. I read somewhere (don't ask me for a citation!) that the
physiological effects of anger - increased levels of adrenalin and
cortisol, high heart rate, and the like - take about 30 minutes to return
to normal after something happens that makes you angry.

Back in the day if you received a letter that made you angry, you would
have several hours to write an immediate response, which would then
probably take several more hours to reach its recipient, who would probably
respond the next day... plenty of time for the physical reaction of anger
to subside.

Email, usenet, PhPBB, wikis and the like means there is a technological
method of ensuring that responses can be written and shared instantly (and
angrily) and, indeed, in heated threads you can quite happily exchange
messages which provoke an emotional response quickly enough that your
flight-or-fight reflex is being triggered repeatedly over a period of hours
with every ping of your inbox.

So basically; yes, I agree.

Regards,

Chris



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.comwrote:

 I originally wrote this message last year on a nonpublic list. It seemed
 to be well received, and some people asked me to share it publicly, but I
 didn't get around to it then. I think this would be a good time to share it
 here now. It is not specifically directed at recent issues here, but I
 think it does have some relevance. (I have some thoughts more directly
 related to those matters as well, which I hope to share when I have time to
 write them down. That might not happen until late Friday, which is probably
 not the best time for it, but based on recent history perhaps I can still
 hope some people will be reading then.)

 Internet technology is known for letting things happen much faster than
 they did before we were all so connected. This speed now seems normal to us
 and, being immersed in that culture, we have come to expect it. Wikis, as
 one aspect of that culture, have the feature of making that speed a
 personal tool - you can make something happen right away. How many of us
 got involved because we saw a mistake and figuratively couldn't wait to fix
 it? And when we discovered that we literally didn't have to wait, we were
 hooked.

 One result of this is a culture that caters to impatience, sometimes even
 rewards it. And that's why we are often tempted to think that being
 irritable is a way of getting things done. We imagine: this problem should
 be instantly solved, my idea can be implemented right away, I will be
 immediately informed about whatever I care about. But as our culture grows
 in scale, none of that remains true (and perhaps, we get more irritated as
 a result).

 I wish I could say that because it's a matter of scale, technology will
 take care of things because that's how we handle scaling. However, the
 issue is not about whether the technology will scale, but whether the
 culture will scale. On a cultural level, scaling issues are not handled by
 technology alone. They are handled by establishing shared values (be bold,
 but also wait for consensus), by agreeing upon standard procedures (which
 provide important protections when designed well, but also introduce
 delays), and by dividing up responsibilities (which requires that we trust
 others).

 That last bit is critical; people have repeatedly suggested a certain
 mistrust underlies the repeated flareups. Well, the reason that mistrust
 has grown so much is because we are often impatient, and take shortcuts in
 order to get things done (or so we believe). The impatience manifests on
 all sides--to illustrate: volunteers get impatient about the effort needed
 for any kind of policy change, chapters get impatient about requirements to
 develop internal controls and share reports on their activities, staff get
 impatient about time involved in consulting with the community. Everyone
 thinks it would be so much better if they were free to just do things and
 not have to deal with these hassles. But in every one of these scenarios,
 and I'm sure I could come up with many more, if we let impatience guide us,
 inevitably more trust will be drained out of the system.

 Patience as a virtue is in short supply on the internet. It is not native
 to our culture, but we must apply it in order to scale. Fortunately, it is
 simply a matter of maturity and self-control at appropriate moments. I
 encourage us all to practice it.

 --Michael Snow


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patience

[Chris Keating]

I just wanted to add another thought to this, which occurred to me on the
bus in to work this morning.

There is an insight from a school of psychotherapy called Transactional
Analysis* that, while all of us have a basic need to interact with one
another, that need is fulfilled as much by negative interactions as
positive ones. If positive interactions are lacking (which they often are,
because we are socially conditioned to avoid providing positive
interactions unless there is a good reason), then negative interactions
will substitute for them because they fulfill the same psychological need,
just in a much more dysfunctional way.

I wouldn't recommend this as rigorously-proven scientific analysis but I've
often been surprised by how true it can be.

Perhaps when email lists are quiet we should simply praise each other more?
;-)

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_analysis

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Chris Keating
chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you Michael for the thoughtful post!

 I very much agree. I read somewhere (don't ask me for a citation!) that
 the physiological effects of anger - increased levels of adrenalin and
 cortisol, high heart rate, and the like - take about 30 minutes to return
 to normal after something happens that makes you angry.

 Back in the day if you received a letter that made you angry, you would
 have several hours to write an immediate response, which would then
 probably take several more hours to reach its recipient, who would probably
 respond the next day... plenty of time for the physical reaction of anger
 to subside.

 Email, usenet, PhPBB, wikis and the like means there is a technological
 method of ensuring that responses can be written and shared instantly (and
 angrily) and, indeed, in heated threads you can quite happily exchange
 messages which provoke an emotional response quickly enough that your
 flight-or-fight reflex is being triggered repeatedly over a period of hours
 with every ping of your inbox.

 So basically; yes, I agree.

 Regards,

 Chris




 On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.comwrote:

 I originally wrote this message last year on a nonpublic list. It seemed
 to be well received, and some people asked me to share it publicly, but I
 didn't get around to it then. I think this would be a good time to share it
 here now. It is not specifically directed at recent issues here, but I
 think it does have some relevance. (I have some thoughts more directly
 related to those matters as well, which I hope to share when I have time to
 write them down. That might not happen until late Friday, which is probably
 not the best time for it, but based on recent history perhaps I can still
 hope some people will be reading then.)

 Internet technology is known for letting things happen much faster than
 they did before we were all so connected. This speed now seems normal to us
 and, being immersed in that culture, we have come to expect it. Wikis, as
 one aspect of that culture, have the feature of making that speed a
 personal tool - you can make something happen right away. How many of us
 got involved because we saw a mistake and figuratively couldn't wait to fix
 it? And when we discovered that we literally didn't have to wait, we were
 hooked.

 One result of this is a culture that caters to impatience, sometimes even
 rewards it. And that's why we are often tempted to think that being
 irritable is a way of getting things done. We imagine: this problem should
 be instantly solved, my idea can be implemented right away, I will be
 immediately informed about whatever I care about. But as our culture grows
 in scale, none of that remains true (and perhaps, we get more irritated as
 a result).

 I wish I could say that because it's a matter of scale, technology will
 take care of things because that's how we handle scaling. However, the
 issue is not about whether the technology will scale, but whether the
 culture will scale. On a cultural level, scaling issues are not handled by
 technology alone. They are handled by establishing shared values (be bold,
 but also wait for consensus), by agreeing upon standard procedures (which
 provide important protections when designed well, but also introduce
 delays), and by dividing up responsibilities (which requires that we trust
 others).

 That last bit is critical; people have repeatedly suggested a certain
 mistrust underlies the repeated flareups. Well, the reason that mistrust
 has grown so much is because we are often impatient, and take shortcuts in
 order to get things done (or so we believe). The impatience manifests on
 all sides--to illustrate: volunteers get impatient about the effort needed
 for any kind of policy change, chapters get impatient about requirements to
 develop internal controls and share reports on their activities, staff get
 impatient about time involved in consulting with the community. Everyone
 thinks it would be so much

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK elects four trustees to its Board

[Chris Keating]

Dear all,

Thought you might like to hear news from Wikimedia UK's AGM.

We held elections for four Trustees - we elect 3 one year and 4 the next,
for two-year terms.

Saad Choudhri and Greyham Dawes were elected for the first time, but are
not new to the Board, as they were both co-opted to fill vacant seats over
the course of last year. Michael Maggs and Alastair McCapra were elected
for the first time. Michael is a long-standing Wikimedian principally
active on Commons where he is a Bureaucrat, and has recently retired from a
career as a patent attorney. Alastair has not previousy been a Wikimedian
but has extensive experience in the not-for-profit and education sectors -
he is currently Chief Executive of the Landscape Trust.

Continuing on the Board having been elected for two-year terms last year
are myself, Mike Peel, and Ashley van Haeften (Fae). Doug Taylor
(User:Rexxs) retires from the Board but still intends to play an important
role in our education outreach work. We also have three news seats on the
Board which are currently empty and will be filled by co-option.

I would like to welcome Alastair and Michael, who I'm sure will be
subscribing to this list shortly if they haven't already.

Regards,

Chris

-- Forwarded message --
From: Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:28 PM
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK elects four trustees to its Board
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org


Hello everyone,

As you may know, Wikimedia UK held its AGM yesterday in Lincoln. This
included elections for trustees to serve on the Board of the charity.

You can find details of the elected candidates on our blog at
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/06/wikimedia-uk-announces-election-of-new-board-members/

Many thanks to all candidates, both successful and unsuccessful, for taking
part.

Thanks and regards,

Stevie

-- 

Stevie Benton
Communications Organiser
Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173
@StevieBenton

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street,
London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a
global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the
Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal
control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH is hiring two new staff

[Chris Keating]

That sounds interesting!

What does a Chapter's Chief Scientific Officer do?

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Manuel Schneider 
manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote:

  Original-Nachricht 
 Datum:  Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:05:45 +0200
 Von:Chantal Ebongué chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch

 Dear all,

 We are looking for two new staff members :
 1.   Chief Administrative Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013
 2.   Chief Scientific Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013

 Ads are also published on www.wikimedia.ch, www.jobs.ch and
 www.linkedin.com.

 Applications (or request for information) can be send to me or to
 i...@wikimedia.ch.

 Please inform you network !


 Regards


 Chantal Ebongué, CAO

 *Wikimedia CH - *www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch/
 Escaliers-du-Marché 2 - 1003 Lausanne - Switzerland
 Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 - cell phone +41 (0)78 744 21 82
 Skype : chantal.ebongue - chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

[Chris Keating]

 I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check my
 inbox that this is a Wikimedia-l thread.


I'd like someone to clarify if this thread has been approved by LaffCom?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

[Chris Keating]

Uniform portraits?

Maybe that's an idea - I am just imagining Brandon in firefighter uniform,
James Forrester in the uniform of a Beefeater guarding the Tower of London,
and the whole of Legal in Special Forces cammo led by Geoff carrying a
pearl-handled Colt and chomping on a cigar.

Make it so!
This is all a style/composition question -

Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not?


On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of
 this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a
 photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's
fingers.
 --Teles


 [1] -
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg
 Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't
expect
 that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too
 far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems
 to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L
 Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens
 camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos
 of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm
f/1.2L
 II.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

[Chris Keating]

 (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and
 loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate
 should matters escalate quickly.)


Erik - to be frank I think this would be a serious mistake.

A penguin would have no understanding of the Wikimedia culture. I mean they
spend all their time huddling on ice-floes! What's that got to do with
creating an encyclopedia? I notice that hardly ANYONE edits Wikipedia from
the South Pole, despite it being the only place that everyone can agree is
in the Global South.

Indeed, what's the whole contribution of Antarctica been to the Wikimedia
movement? Sweet fanny adams, that's what. But it doesn't even warrant a
mention in the Foundation strategic plan! There is literally a whole
continent that we don't care about. I suppose because you don't get many
icebergs in San Francisco somehow you think Antarctica does't matter.

Frankly we don't need a penguin in the HR department. We need a penguin on
the Foundation Board.

No, we need a penguin as Executive Director. While Sue has made some really
important contributions, I have never seen her hunt fish or waddle around
with an egg on her feet. That has to change and it has to change now. It's
the only way we will take the South Pole seriously.
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK's long-term goals - call for comments

[Chris Keating]

Dear all,

Wikimedia UK has for the last few months been engaged in an open strategic
planning process. We've had a number of workshops and drafts as part of
this process, and at our recent Board meeting discussed the long-term goals
that will underpin the strategy. This is on our wiki here:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Towards_a_five_year_plan_2013-18/Draft_Goals_vs_2

Comments are very welcome - from the UK or the rest of the Wikimedia
movement. Once the goals are defined, these will be fleshed out with
strategies and targets to reach them along with metrics for success.

Many thanks,

Chris Keating
Chair, Wikimedia UK
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

[Chris Keating]

 So, which other chapters are up for building out serious software
 engineering capacity?


Actually we've been having this conversation a bit as part of our strategic
planning process - how much should Wikimedia UK be doing technology and
what place should it have in our long-term goals? After some debate we
decided it was important enough to merit a top-level point of its own;

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Towards_a_five_year_plan_2013-18/Draft_Goals_vs_2


That said it's not something we are likely to make any big strides on in
2014.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chapters Association - report in the Journal

[Chris Keating]

Thank you for the update, Ziko.

I'd like to offer my thanks to you, Markus, Fae and everyone who devoted
time and effort to pushing the Chapters Association forward. The concept of
chapters sharing, reviewing and offering each other a helping hand remains
remains very important and I'm glad to hear lots of people talking about
how this can continue to develop without the formal structure of the
Chapters Association.

Regards,

Chris



On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote:

 Hello,

 Please allow me to send you a link to the Journal with my report about the
 WCA Council meeting of Thursday.

 Kind regards

 Ziko

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Journal


 --


 
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 deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council

 Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland
 Postbus 167
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[Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

[Chris Keating]

At Wikimania there was (not for the first time) discussion that not much
support and advice there is available to Chapter board members. On Sunday
afternoon a small group of us (myself, Markus Glaser, Michał Buczyński,
Claudia Garad) met to work out how we could actually provide some training
to help improve this situation.

I am pleased to say we have a definite proposal for a 2-day workshop to be
organised in the early part of 2014:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_proposal

This is open to all Chapter (or indeed Thematic Organisation) boards, but
is particularly focused on board members in those organisations that have,
or will soon have, staff. And while this is being organised by chapter
people, we hope to engage with Foundation, FDC and Affcom wherever this
will be relevant.

If you are on a Wikimedia movement Board and are interested in attending,
please sign up on the Meta page!
Also, if you are reading the page and feel you could lead a session, please
also sign up on Meta!

If there is enough interest, we will define the programme more closely and
work out exactly where and when.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

[Chris Keating]

Thanks for all the enthusiasm!


 Since you said it will be organised in the early 2014, does it mean that
 the workshop will happen in Chapter Conference 2014?


Hi Ted,

It could happen as a pre-meeting to the Wikimedia Conference, or it could
be a stand-alone workshop earlier in the year. This is to be decided.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

[Chris Keating]

Indeed! Given that a while back people were asking whether this conference
would happen *at all* it is very good to see that there are four chapters
willing to host. Many thanks to Germany, Sweden, India and Italy. :-)

I am not sure whether anyone has called for a programme committee or
similar yet - is that part of the process?

Regards,

Chris
Wikimedia UK Chair


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Cristian Consonni
kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote:

 ... and there's also Italy!

 WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our
 application:

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI

 (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this
 bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the
 chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during
 the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013)

 Four bids, exciting!

 Cristian
 [1]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Funds Dissemination Committee: Report on first year of operations

[Chris Keating]

For what it's worth, I've posted my own comments on Meta.

I'd echo Manuel's comment that it's important to have these discussions in
a professional and respectful way. As a movement we are still dealing with
the issue of how to make the most of the funds and the opportunities we
have. This will inevitably highlight differences of opinion and approach,
but where those differences happen it's even more important to articulate
those  views respectfully. There's been much less of a sense of us and
them recently and let's keep it that way.

Chris
Wikimedia UK


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Manuel Schneider 
manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote:

 Hi Itzik,

 thanks for your analysis and your thoughtful mail. I'd like to echo it!

 I also had some discussions with my peers in several countries about
 this report. Comments were made on the time of publication and the
 aggressiveness towards chapters, the volunteers who worked their as***
 off to get their FDC proposal properly done and the FDC itself which is
 described to be part of some mafia-like conspirancy.
 slap in the face of the volunteers, pure hatred against chapters
 were named.
 I don't want to go into any more details, I'd like to have this
 conversation to be constructive and polite.

 I wonder what others say about this? It was surprisingly quiet here.

 A remark I want to make, to add to Itzik's thoughts:
 There were several times when the definition of community - concerning
 the Wikimedia Movement - was discussed. If WMF and WMF staff are part
 of the movement or the community.
 WMF people - and I am sure this included Sue especially - always fought
 for an inclusive approach of the term community, including WMF people
 which are hard working for the support and advancement of our community.
 In the report it is criticised, that people from chapter take away the
 seats from the community on the FDC, making sure that the chapters
 receive more funding. Lobbying at its best!
 Apart from the fact that these people have neen elected by the
 community, did anyone ever question that comment?
 In a country with a working chapter it is an obvious fact that the
 majority of *active* volunteers will in one way or another work with the
 chapter. Because this is exactly why they exist in the first place:
 Because volunteers themselves made them to happen, in order to support
 themselves with a legal framework, some local infrastructure to help
 them to achieve more than they could as individuals. Still almost all of
 the chapters have active volunteers as their board members. Being part
 of a chapter doesn't mean that one isn't part of the community anymore
 and that is true also for most of the people holding positions in a
 chapter. They should be even more thanked, doing two jobs - their
 volunteer project work and holding a position in a chapter - at once.

 I'd also like to see comments from FDC members on that issue as well.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Chris Keating]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote:

 That would be a great idea; but nobody seems to bother. They just start
 editing articles right away.


Oh no! People editing articles! What a disaster!

/sarcasm

Chris
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[Wikimedia-l] Info: Boards training workshop programme announced

[Chris Keating]

Dear all,

I am pleased to announce that the programme is now available for the
Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop that will take place in London in March
2014.

This is a small event focused on giving Chapter/Thematic Org boards the
skills and confidence to do a great job. We are using a wide range of
expertise from within and outside the movement to help do this.

Registration will open next week. Places are limited so I wanted to give
people the heads up and a chance to think about which Board members would
most benefit from this.

More on Meta, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

Many thanks,

Chris
(on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organisers)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC R1 funding recommendations are posted

[Chris Keating]

Many thanks for the considerable hard work that has gone into this process
from the FDC and the staff assisting them.

Regards,

Chris


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote:

 Hello friends,

 The Funds Dissemination Committee meets twice annually to help make
 decisions about how to effectively allocate movement funds to achieve the
 Wikimedia movement's mission, vision, and strategy. [1]

 On behalf of the committee, I am pleased to announce that Round 1 2013-2014
 recommendations to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees have now been
 posted on Meta. [2] The WMF Board will make their decision on these
 recommendations by 1 January 2014.

 For the first round of this fiscal year, the committee received 11
 proposals.  [3] These eleven proposals came from ten chapters and one
 thematic organization, totaling requests of $5.9 million USD.  Prior to our
 face-to-face deliberations in San Francisco from 17-21 November, the FDC
 reviewed the proposals in careful detail, aided by staff assessments and
 analysis on programs, finances, grant compliance and history, as well as
 community comments on the proposals. Staff presented an overview of these
 findings to the FDC during the deliberations. The FDC and FDC staff also
 asked clarifying questions to the entities on the proposal form discussion
 pages during the four-week community review period (and prior to the
 publishing of staff assessments), and observed the discussions about the
 proposals.

 The committee thanks all entities that submitted proposals, as it required
 significant effort to both create the proposal and to respond to the
 questions and feedback from the community, FDC, and FDC staff.  We
 sincerely appreciate them all for this work.

 For formal complaints or appeals about the recommendations, there is a
 separate process that entities should follow. Note that at the request of
 many stakeholders, we are clarifying the complaints and appeals terminology
 so that complaints are made about the process to the ombudsperson and
 appeals on the recommendations are made to the WMF Board representatives.
 These are further explained below:

 Any entity that would like to submit an appeal on the FDC’s Round 1
 recommendation should submit it to the Board representatives to the FDC by
 23:59 UTC on 8 December 2013 in accordance with the appeal process outlined
 in the FDC Framework. The process is as follows:

 Appeals to the WMF Board on the recommendations of the FDC (formerly called
 complaints, terminology changed to avoid further confusion):

 * A formal appeal to challenge the FDC’s recommendation should be in the
 form of a 500-or-fewer word summary directed to the two non-voting WMF
 Board representatives to the FDC (Patricio Lorente and Bishakha Datta).

 * The appeal should be submitted on-wiki through the FDC portal page
 designated for this purpose. [4]

 * Formal appeals can be submitted only by the Board Chair of a
 funding-seeking entity.

 * Formal appeals must be filed within seven days of the deadline for
 submission of the FDC slate of recommendations to the WMF Board, even if
 the recommendations are published before the deadline for the
 recommendations i.e. end-of-day 1 December 2013. The deadline for appeals
 is the end-of-day UTC on 8 December.

 * These board representatives will present the appeal to the WMF Board at
 the same time as the Board considers the FDC recommendation. However, all
 responses to an appeal will be made seven days after the deadline for the
 appeal, i.e. by end-of-day UTC 15 December 2013.

 * Any planned or approved disbursements to the organization filing an
 appeal will be put on hold until the appeal is resolved.

 * If the WMF Board's consideration of the appeal results in an amendment of
 the FDC's recommendations (which is expected only in extraordinary
 circumstances), the WMF Board may choose to release extra funds from the
 WMF reserves to provide additional funds not allocated by the FDC's initial
 recommendation.

 * The Ombudsperson, as well as members of the WMF Board other than the
 Board representatives, may participate in the investigation if approved by
 the Chair of the WMF Board.

 Complaints to the ombudsperson about the FDC process (formerly called
 appeals):

 * A complaint about the FDC process can be filed by anyone with the
 Ombudsperson
 and can be made any time during a particular round of the FDC process (e.g.
 in this instance, from start July 2013 to end December 2013).

 * The complaint should be submitted on wiki, through the FDC portal page
 designated for this purpose [5]

 * The ombudsperson will receive and publicly document the complaint, and
 investigate the complaint, as needed.

 On behalf of the FDC,

 pundit Dariusz Jemielniak (FDC Chair)

 [1]

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC

 [2]

 

[Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Chris Keating]

***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in
London, 1-2 March 2014.***

Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation?
Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the
Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which
will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.

The programme and venue details for the workshop is here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

You can register for the event here:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483

Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members
but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of
it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost
£120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.

Some frequently asked questions:

* Are there scholarships?
Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please
fill in the Will you require a scholarship to attend? box on the form
with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of
scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration,
food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event
out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a
scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.

* What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you
leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your
place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a
visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).

* This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more
similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or
in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is
important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the
Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.

Regards,

Chris
on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Chris Keating]

Correcting link:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045

*cough*


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 ***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in
 London, 1-2 March 2014.***

 Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation?
 Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the
 Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which
 will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.

 The programme and venue details for the workshop is here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

 You can register for the event here:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483

 Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members
 but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of
 it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost
 £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.

 Some frequently asked questions:

 * Are there scholarships?
 Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please
 fill in the Will you require a scholarship to attend? box on the form
 with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of
 scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration,
 food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event
 out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a
 scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.

 * What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
 If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you
 leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your
 place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a
 visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).

 * This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
 This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more
 similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or
 in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is
 important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the
 Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.

 Regards,

 Chris
 on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Chris Keating]

Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying
registration right away. If you click Other Payment Options you can
select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)

Chris


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Correcting link:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045

 *cough*


 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating 
 chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:

 ***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in
 London, 1-2 March 2014.***

 Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation?
 Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the
 Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which
 will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.

 The programme and venue details for the workshop is here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014

 You can register for the event here:
 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483

 Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board
 members but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most
 out of it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70
 or cost £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.

 Some frequently asked questions:

 * Are there scholarships?
 Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs,
 please fill in the Will you require a scholarship to attend? box on the
 form with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a
 number of scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover
 registration, food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for
 this event out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone
 requesting a scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.

 * What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
 If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if
 you leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your
 place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a
 visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).

 * This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
 This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more
 similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or
 in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is
 important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the
 Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.

 Regards,

 Chris
 on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Chris Keating]

Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment
option in the way I said.

In response to another off list query, I should point out that
unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated 
recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
recognition.

Regards,
On 5 Dec 2013 20:27, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying
  registration right away. If you click Other Payment Options you can
  select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)
 
  Chris


 For those wanting to attend but needing scholarships to cover the event,
 how do we bypass the 50 pound registration window?  Also, WM-UK
 scholarships will cover above the per diem rate that the WMF limits people
 to correct? :/

 Sincerely,
 Laura Hale

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Chris Keating]

Hi Laura,

Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this
event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support as
much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different
stages of development.

I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a
broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as
many people as possible.

It would certainly be great if there was more support available for
organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know,
no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development needs
of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet them.
Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.

Regards,

Chris
Hi Chris,

If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie Group
has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.

What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the
per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high
registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
incurred by individuals but by their organizations.

As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears
to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked down
the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs.
 The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of
funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
you're off to charge them large amounts.

I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people to
incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for
two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in
Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.

What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
table?  What else is there?

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:

 Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment
 option in the way I said.

 In response to another off list query, I should point out that
 unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated 
 recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
 recognition.





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Chris Keating]

Thanks Balazs! All 20 spaces on the workshop are now taken. :)


On 6 Dec 2013 18:48, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

 Hi all,

 As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short
 feedback about the program.

 I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining this,
 defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.

 Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community management
 (as chapter's community) nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a word
 about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques
 and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning),
 managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best
 practices), etc. etc. The line is long.

 I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able
 to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way than
 before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what
 this event covers is about 20% of what is called management altough I had
 to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.

 Cheers,
 Balazs

 *Balazs Viczian*
 Executive Vice President
 *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*

 Tel: +36 70 633 6372
 Mail: balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu
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 2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com

  Hi Laura,
 
  Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this
  event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support
 as
  much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different
  stages of development.
 
  I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a
  broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as
  many people as possible.
 
  It would certainly be great if there was more support available for
  organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know,
  no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development
 needs
  of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet
 them.
  Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chris
  Hi Chris,
 
  If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
  organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie
 Group
  has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
  recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
 
  What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
  about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
  Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
  attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above
 the
  per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
  expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the
 high
  registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
  incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
 
  As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
  responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach
 appears
  to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than We talked down
  the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
  selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
  conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive
 costs.
   The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
  Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
  and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources
 of
  funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
  who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
  you're off to charge them large amounts.
 
  I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
  funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people
 to
  incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400
 for
  two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close
 in
  Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
  thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
 
  What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
  developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
  following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
  table?  What else is there?
 
  Sincerely,
  Laura Hale
 
  On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
 
   Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other
 payment
   option in the way I said.
  
   In response to another

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK Board update

[Chris Keating]

Dear all,

I just wanted to let you know that Michael Maggs has taken over from me as
Chair of Wikimedia UK. Michael has served as chair of the Governance
Committee since his election to the Board in June, is a long-serving
Wikimedia Commons bureaucrat, and I am sure he will do an excellent job.

Greyham Dawes continues as Treasurer and Alastair McCapra continues as
Secretary.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

[Chris Keating]

Other forms of money we do not currently accept include gold coins, Yap
money, Tesco Clubcard Points,  cowrie shells and cattle.

We could accept any of them in theory.

Though if anyone wants to donate a herd of cattle to Wikimedia UK please
could they contact the office in advance.

Chris
On 12 Dec 2013 03:31, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On 12/12/13 02:54, Nathan wrote:
  Bitcoin isn't native currency for anyone, and anyone who wishes
  to make a Bitcoin donation could certainly do so using a more standard
  currency.

 Well, this article from a year ago argues that bitcoin is safer for
 donors than donating national currency:

 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/06/29/wikipedia-accepts-enemies-of-the-internet-currencies/
 

 But just don’t try to donate safely in bitcoin — it’s not accepted.
 [...]

 Accepting anonymous bitcoin in addition to political currencies can
 be a way of declaring that freedom of speech still does matter.

 I would think that if anonymity is the main concern, a transaction
 system with a public log of all transactions would not be the best choice.

 https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity

 The obvious time-tested choice for anonymous payment is, of course,
 cash. Many charities do accept cash donations. Cash could be donated
 to the local chapter by dropping it into a donation box, then it could
 be either spent on local programs or forwarded to WMF.

 -- Tim Starling


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cochrane Wikipedian In Residence

[Chris Keating]

This is a truly awesome initiative, and many thanks to those involved in
organising it!

Chris


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey folks,

 Just a reminder that Cochrane is taking signups for a Wikipedian in
 Residence: Wikipedia:COCHRANE/WIR

 Cochrane is a fantastic organization which publishes systematic reviews
 about medical treatments and efficacy.

 Wiki Project Med Foundation is helping to coordinate the search for great
 candidates. The Wikipedian in Residence would ideally be:

 # An active Wikipedia editor, a Wikipedian in good standing, for at least 1
 year and with 1,000 edits (more is preferable)
 # A science and/or healthcare enthusiast, preferably with a background as
 either a student or professional
 # An ambassador, capable of interacting between Wikipedia's community and
 Cochrane groups
 # A teacher, helping Cochrane contributors to properly and successfully
 navigate and use Wikipedia
 # A collaborator, comfortable working in and among a distributed network of
 professionals
 # A remote facilitator, adept with email, scheduling, online meetings, and
 conference calls
 # A passionate individual, both about Wikipedia’s mission and Cochrane's
 approach and goals

 The position is open to anyone who can meet these criteria but may be
 particularly suited to students or recent graduates looking to expand their
 skills and experience, or those who work part-time in another job.
 Candidates should have an excellent level of written and spoken English,
 although those that speak more than one language are particularly welcome
 to apply.

 ;Location
 Cochrane is structured as a network of groups located throughout the world
 to which people contribute in different ways, but primarily as authors of
 Cochrane Systematic Reviews. The WiR will work remotely from their chosen
 location and will interact with a number of groups and their contributors
 via email and online. Cochrane will provide a selection of online
 collaboration tools to facilitate communication.

 ;Reporting
 The WiR will report to, and be guided by, Cochrane’s Head of Communications
  External Affairs, and a Senior Editor of The Cochrane Library. They will
 also interact regularly with other members of Cochrane’s senior management
 team and representatives of its publishing partner for ''The Cochrane
 Library''.

 ;Working hours
 The WiR will be expected to work flexibly at different times of their day
 to suit their schedule and to help support Cochrane groups throughout the
 world (some work in the evenings is likely to be required). The exact
 number of hours per week will be agreed with the successful candidate, but
 is likely to be in the region of 7-12 hours per week.

 ;Remuneration
 The WiR will receive a stipend of up to $6,500 USD/£4,000 for the initial
 six month term, which will be paid in two instalments at the beginning and
 middle of the term. In addition, the WiR will be funded to attend and
 present a session at the 22nd Cochrane Colloquium in Hyderabad, India,
 21st-25th September 2014.

 ;Applying to be WIR
 We want to learn more about you and see how we can best give you an
 opportunity to work with Cochrane. Signup! http://enwp.org/WP:Cochrane/WIR

 Cheers,

 Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi)
 Wiki Project Med Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed bylaws amendment

[Chris Keating]

Thanks Alice.

For those interested in this, you might like to note that James Hare has
started a discussion about the method used to select these Board members,
here; - it reflects the likelihood that thematic orgs will be part of the
decision not just chapters.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats/2014_resolution

Regards,

Chris



On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Alice Wiegand awieg...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Hi all,

 In 2013 the WMF Board of Trustees started to publish proposed bylaw changes
 on Meta for consultation with the community. As we want to continue with
 this new tradition you find a proposed change at

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_bylaws/January_2014_-_Amendment_for_Trustees_selected_by_Chapters_and_Thematic_Organizations

 The Board Governance Committee (BGC) was commissioned by the Board to
 prepare the resolution and the BGC present it to the Board at the same time
 we publish it on Meta. Now a 10 day discussion phase starts after which the
 Board starts voting.

 I'm happy to invite you to review and discuss the resolution draft. Please
 share your comments on the talk page.

 Regards,
 Alice.


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[Wikimedia-l] Scope of Wikimedia Conference

[Chris Keating]

Should movement organisations in planning come to the Wikimedia
Conference?

This is a question that has been asked, does not yet appear to have a
definite answer, and indeed it is not clear who should answer it.

Please provide your thoughts here;

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2014#Who_is_invited.3F
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[Chris Keating]

Chipping in my 2p very quickly -

Given it's a senior WMF staff member leaving to join another movement
organisation, it makes perfect sense that both bodies have put out a joint
statement.

It's also a good thing for the movement that it's possible to spin off
projects like this, which the Foundation has decided are no longer core
activity, to other entities.

So well done Frank for getting the role, and good luck to the Wikimedia
Education Foundation for the future.

Chris




On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:

 On 13 February 2014 06:30, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Rather than just answer your concerns

 But you haven't done. Will anyone?

 --
 Andy Mabbett
 @pigsonthewing
 http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OFFLIST] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Chris Keating]

Just to be clear, there was no only 2 representatives plus an ED rule
mentioned in the registration process.

If there had been, then Wikimedia UK would have respected it.

Given that there wasn't, we thought it was useful to send more than 2
trustees, as we have many new Board members and it is important for them to
meet colleagues from other chapters and the WMF sooner rather than later!

Chris


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Cristian,

 Yes. I sort of expected WMDE to be the ones implementing the 2+1
 'rule' and if there was to be any exceptions for this to be discussed
 before they added names to the registration page.

 Anyway, I've already posted quite a bit on this thread, so I'll step
 back a little - it's not like I'm even going myself. :-)

 Fae

 On 31 March 2014 14:45, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:
  2014-03-31 11:47 GMT+02:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com:
  This seems to not be the case
  looking at the proposed attendee list[1] with the UK sending a massive
  party of 8 people (excluding Wikimania representatives), significantly
  larger than any other Chapter or Thorg.
 
  Well, the question then is can WM-UK explain the rationale for
  sending such a large representation?
 
  C
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Purpose of WMConf ( was: Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014)

[Chris Keating]

Great! We are starting to have the conversation we need to have!

So: What is the purpose of the Wikimedia Conference?

This has never been clearly defined, in my view.

I certainly found attending last year useful as it was a chance to get to
know face-to-face people I only knew over email, to share some useful
experience of Wikimedia UK's with other chapters,  and  to get an insight
into how others were thinking, and have some meetings which needed to be
done face-to-face.

In general those are very useful things. But is that what the conference is
for?

Chris
 On 2 Apr 2014 17:17, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:

 (my 2cents here, not speaking in any capacity besides my personal free
 will)

 2014-04-02 14:32 GMT+02:00 Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de:
  Have a nice time in Berlin, maybe I will drop by on some of the evening
  events at least. :)

 May I say? Please come by also at the conference.
 I understand the point of having a rule (which we can decide if it is
 a strict rule or whatever) of 2+1 representatives because it helps to
 limit costs and it also assures that there isn't over-representation
 of an entities over some others (which are both good arguments, btw)
 but thinking of having a closed event were you can not come along if
 you are interested to do so and you happen to live nearby seems Deeply
 Wrong(TM) to me.
 For comparison all General Assemblies of Wikimedia Italia are public,
 everyone can come along and speak, of course when it comes to voting
 (e.g. board elections) only members have the right to vote. We always
 have some bystanders (this includes the occasional I am painter, why
 I don't have my Wikipedia page?)  and, to date, our assemblies have
 never being flooded by strangers :-). Moreover, for the sake of bias
 and over-representation I think that this will not be of much more
 impact than the fact of chosing to hold the event itself in Berlin.

 Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Purpose of WMConf ( was: Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014)

[Chris Keating]

 I am genuinely puzzled as to why, if nobody on the WMUK board (such as
 the CEO or the current Chairman) is sure what the purpose of the
 conference is, they should chose to invest the donor's money in
 sending 5 trustees and 3 full time employees to it (presumably the
 employees are being paid for their time rather than going as
 volunteers).


Just to be clear, I know what the benefits we will get out of it are, and I
can tell you the direction that I would like the conference to take in
future; I'm just wondering whether others have the same perception.

This is not a new question, as Nathan has pointed out, and he is probably
right to say it is best to continue it here;
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference

Chris
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[Wikimedia-l] Update: Affiliate-selected Board seats session in Berlin

[Chris Keating]

Dear All,

I just wanted to update you all on the Affiliate-Selected Board Seats
sessions at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin.

You have probably already seen that there are five nominations for these
two seats(1)

There are two sessions planned about this election:

9.45am - 10.30am Sunday: Open QA
Each candidate will be asked to make a short speech/presentation.

Candidates will then be asked to respond to questions. You are invited to
place your questions on Meta here;
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2014/Questions

Alternatively, feel free to email me (or otherwise contact me) with your
question before the session.

Not all candidates will be present in Berlin. Those candidates not present
have the option of speaking to everyone present via a videocall, if they
wish. We are also looking into recording and/or streaming the session so
that people who aren't in Berlin can see what's going on, and I very much
hope this will be possible.

10.30am - 11.30am: Discussion among Movement affiliates
This will be a closed discussion among Board members of movement
affiliates.

I will be chairing both sessions as I happen to be the only one of the
election facilitators in Berlin. I will ensure that, as far as possible,
everyone who wishes to ask a question or to contribute to the discussion
has the chance to do so.

If you have any questions about these sessions, please don't hesitate to
contact me.

Kind regards,

Chris Keating


(1)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2014/Nominations
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

[Chris Keating]

As one of the organisers of the workshop, I feel I ought to chime in here.

If I remember correctly, those remarks were made as a passing comment in a
very emotional session about the role of movement organisations. I don't
believe anyone present took them to heart.

Indeed, the vast majority of people at the workshop were Wikimedians who'd
recently been elected to Chapter boards, who have strong roots in the
community and are starting to get to grips with how to run an organisation!

I'd certainly suggest people read Steffen's blog post (even if through
google translate) or indeed the minutes of the workshop, for a bit more
context;

http://steproe.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/die-sinnfrage-was-ist-der-zweck-von-wikimedia-deutschland/

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014/Minutes

Regards,

Chris



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net
 wrote:

 This week's issue of the English Wikipedia Signpost delivers mildly
 shocking news about the opinion of a prominent female Wikimedian (...)
 about the meaning of the movement and the role of the chapters as
 expressed during the Boards training workshop that took place between March
 1-2 in London.

 The Wikimedian is quoted by the treasurer of Wikimedia Deutschland,
 Steffen Prößdorf, as saying: if we can buy free knowledge, we should do
 that [and] just forget about the communities and Fuck the community, who
 cares.

 I understand that the identity of the person will remain secret, given
 that there is no public list of attendees of the workshop, so let me just
 say that the idea that chapters can fuck the community is absolutely
 unacceptable and should by rejected by all chapters immediately.

 Read more at:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_
 Signpost/2014-04-02/News_and_notes
 * http://steproe.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/die-sinnfrage-was-
 ist-der-zweck-von-wikimedia-deutschland/

 Tomasz

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

[Chris Keating]

I'd certainly hope not. One of the ground rules for the workshop was that
individual contributions were made on a confidential and non-attributable
basis.

This was exactly because we wanted people to speak freely and not worry
about a witch-hunt on an email list if a couple of trolls got hold of some
out-of-context quotes.

Chris
On 7 Apr 2014 11:56, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steffen, the Wikimedia movement expects board members on Wikimedia
 organizations to be fulfilling their role as representatives of our
 movement. If you misquoted please explain that this is the case.

 As at a public workshop that cost the movement a significant amount of
 our donor's money to pay for, there is no reason for secrecy about
 this, everyone there is accountable for their time spent at that
 workshop. The quote has not been challenged. It would benefit us all
 to hear why this was said and to be open to questions about their
 leadership role, from the person that made this public statement.

 Personally, if an elected or appointed board level member of a chapter
 is making public statements like this, I do not want them representing
 our movement if they are going to hide away in secret when asked about
 it. You know who they are, please ask them to speak for themselves
 rather than relying on you and your colleagues to run interference or
 take this story on tangents.

 Fae

 On 7 April 2014 11:42, Steffen Prößdorf steffen.proessd...@wikimedia.de
 wrote:
  Hi Folks,
 
  please do not pick out that single point and overestimate it.
  I have not mentioned this to dupe anyone, but only to illustrate the
  conflict of alignment or the objective of the chapters. The opposing
  opinions are represented by several Wikimedians on both sides, please do
  not harp on this single quote.
 
  Thanks,
  Steffen
 
 
  2014-04-07 12:33 GMT+02:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com:
 
   If that is indeed the case, the comment to fuck the community would
 fit
   quite well in the divisions that /some/ people are alleging exist.
   Tomasz
 
  Could whoever is being quoted as saying this please come forward
  publicly and explain what they meant?
 
  If this was anything more than a bad joke, then I would expect someone
  who made views like this, while representing our community of
  volunteers to be asked by their Board to resign their elected or
  appointed position. I urge those who were at the meeting, to
  demonstrate appropriate community leadership and encourage the person
  they know to have expressed this viewpoint to come forward and explain
  themselves in their own words.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

[Chris Keating]

Just to clarify that I don't believe Tomasz, the original poster, was
trolling.

You, Ashley, have been doing so spectacularly :)
On 7 Apr 2014 16:50, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 No. You may want to look at
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Standards_in_Public_Life
 this does not include keeping things secret just because someone said
 let's keep this secret. The exact opposite is true, if you are in a
 trusted public position then you must show leadership for integrity,
 honesty and openness even if this does mean explaining your actions
 that you thought would stay in-camera under a gentleman's agreement.
 To do otherwise, as has been readily demonstrated by the history of UK
 Government political networks, corrupts the movement by turning the
 higher ranks into an Old Boys Club who are more likely to find ways
 to cover up for each other, rather than be seen to be accountable.

 It goes on to spell out that [Chapter Trustees] are accountable for
 their decisions and actions to the public and must submit themselves
 to whatever scrutiny is appropriate to their office. Calling Tomasz a
 troll as a way of dismissing a serious question about statements made
 in meetings that Wikimedia donors paid for about the volunteer
 community is not unreasonable. Had whomever said these things, came
 forward and explained their point of view, in the same way as the
 always delightful Christophe Henner has in this thread, then they
 would have my respect and be seen to comply with the Nolan principles.

 In comparison to Christophe's openness, Chris Keating's responses to
 good faith questions about this workshop before it happened,[1] in
 particular his blatantly dismissive replies to long term Wikimedian
 well known activist Effeietsanders, seem well below how we expect
 someone who has formally signed up to the Nolan principles as part of
 the UK trustee code[2] to behave. As Michael Maggs is the one with a
 duty as the UK Chairman to enforce this code, I am sure folks will be
 welcome to ask him about these matters, and his expectation for
 behaviour from his board members, both when in closed or open meetings
 or on this email list, during the open meetings at the Wikimedia
 Conference later this week. I hope such a discussion does not get
 turned around into how do we stop Tomasz from trolling us by asking
 difficult questions.

 Links:
 1.
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boards_training_workshop_March_2014#Typo.3F
 2. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Trustee_Code_of_Conduct

 Fae

 On 7 April 2014 15:44, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  *@Fae:  I  do  not  think  that  it  is  within the spirit of the Nolan
  Principles  to  break  a  promise given to participants...*
 
 
 
  I'm sorry but quote someone on a on-line journal does not break the
 promise
  of secrecy? If they speak believing they would never be quoted, put their
  words on the Wikipedia Signpost isnt breaking that?
 
  _
  *Béria Lima*
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
  livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
  construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
  On 7 April 2014 09:53, eLib Project elibproj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hey all!
 
  As  I have been helping out with wikipedias from time to time, here my
  5 cent:
 
  @Fae:  I  do  not  think  that  it  is  within the spirit of the Nolan
  Principles  to  break  a  promise given to participants... there is no
  trade-offpossiblebetween   the   principles for the principles
  (Leadership, Honesty, Integrity  Selflessness Objectivity vs Openness,
  Accountability ?!).   That  is,   after   all   the   basic   concept
  of
  principles  -  that  they  are even followed when you don't want to or
  like to.
 
  @discussion culture: To get to a decision, everyone must be allowed to
  express  her/or  himself in a discussion without fearing repercussions
  afterwards   -   otherwise  you  just  get  yes-people  who  will  not
  participate   or   worse,   tell  you what you want to hear. Why it is
  important to say something stupid like fuck the community is because
  it came right from the inside, without prior going through a filter...
  with   this   reaction  people will filter and you will not only loose
  dumb but also intelligent contributions.
 
  @future  (sarcasm  warning):   if   you   do  not  wish  this  sort of
  comments,  just  say  so in a  general   sense - YES, it's possible to
  get the message across without a  witch/wizard  hunt  and  even CHANGE
  the  rules  for  the  next time... learning without burning... how the
  world could have looked if this had been used more often...
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  gego
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

[Chris Keating]

I just wanted to drop everyone a note about the two sessions in Berlin on
Sunday morning about the Affiliate Selected Board Seats.

I regret it proved impossible to stream or properly record the QA session
- we did not have appropriate equipment to capture audio. Nevertheless we
heard speeches from Alice, Frieda and Patricio, the latter taking part
remotely from Argentina. Unfortunately some nearby church bells started
ringing during Patricio's speech, but after they fell silent Patricio was
able to continue. Anders was not able to join in by videocall, but was able
to answer questions posed to him by email.

I would also like to say a little about the closed discussion session.
About 40 people attended, including at least one person from most of the
chapters present and Amical. We also invited User Group representatives to
participate in the discussion and a number did so. Generally, it was a
thoughtful discussion about the needs of the WMF Board and the movement.

Everyone is welcome to continue to pose questions on Meta, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2014/Questions

A final list of candidates will be announced on or shortly after 15 April
(tomorrow) and organisations have until 31 May to cast votes.

Many thanks,

Chris Keating
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

[Chris Keating]

 However, I believe the questions were noted to be sent to some of the
 candidates, perhaps a good way would be to republish them and ask them
 to answer on meta ?


Good idea. I've done this for two questions aimed at all of the candidates.

Thanks,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

[Chris Keating]

This would be an interesting discussion to have in the next movement
strategy process.

I can see the attraction of doing this, but much better to think about it
alongside questions like what are our collective goals, how much money
do we want to have and the like.

Regards,

Chris
On 15 Apr 2014 20:51, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the
 extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work
 that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a
 specific goal established in a grant agreement.

 This comes up from time to time. One of the few historic precedents
 I'm aware of is the $5,000 donation that WMF made to FreeNode in 2006
 [1]. But there are of course many other organizations/communities that
 the Wikimedia movement is indebted to.

 On the software side, we have Ubuntu Linux (itself highly indebted to
 Debian) / Apache / MariaDB / PHP / Varnish / ElasticSearch / memcached
 / Puppet / OpenStack / various libraries and many other dependencies [2],
 infrastructure tools like ganglia, observium, icinga, etc. Some of
 these projects have nonprofits that accept and seek sponsorship and
 support, some don't.

 One could easily expand well beyond the software we depend on
 server-side to client-side open source applications used by our
 community to create content: stuff like Inkscape, GIMP and LibreOffice
 (used for diagrams). And there are other communities we depend on,
 like OpenStreetMap.

 So, should we steer clear of this type of sponsorship altogether
 because it's a slippery slope, or should we try to come up with
 evaluation criteria to consider it on a case-by-case basis (e.g. is
 there a trustworthy non-profit that has a track record of
 accomplishment and is in actual need of financial support)?

 I could imagine a process with a fixed giving back annual budget
 and a community nominations/review workflow. It'd be work to create
 and I don't want to commit to that yet, but I would be interested to
 hear opinions.

 MariaDB specifically invited WMF to become a sponsor, and we're
 clearly highly dependent on them. But I don't think it makes sense for
 us to just write checks if there's someone who asks for support and
 there's a justifiable need. However, if there's broad agreement that
 this is something Wikimedia should do more of, then I think it's worth
 developing more consistent sponsorship criteria.

 Thanks,
 Erik


 [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Freenode_Donation
 [2] Cf. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Upstream_projects
 --
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 VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

[Chris Keating]

I'd certainly take quite a broad view of which languages fulfill our
mission. Certainly I wouldn't be comfortable with arguments as simple as
All people who speak Y also read X, so there's no purpose putting
resources into Y.

Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh; I
wonder if Robin Owain reads this list? He's a good person to speak to about
this.

Chris


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia
 alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by the
 cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages needs
 people like [[Pompeu Fabra]] and [[Vuk Stefanović Karadžić]] and, dare I
 say, [[Eliezer Ben-Yehuda]]. That's the sine qua non. Wikimedia is just a
 tool - a very important one, but not the main one.


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 http://aharoni.wordpress.com
 ‪“We're living in pieces,
 I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


 2014-04-22 14:20 GMT+03:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:

  Hello Milos,
 
  welcome back.
 
  Basically I agree with your attitude, with one difference:
 
  I don't think that anyone can help languages survive. What we can do, is
  to help conserve them.
 
  Greetings
  Ting
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Organizational development for the Wikimedia movement

[Chris Keating]

Hi all,

I've started a page on Meta which I hope will act as a hub for
documentation and ideas around the training and development needs of
Wikimedia movement organisations:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organisational_development

I'd ask anyone who's interested in this kind of thing to have a look and
add examples and thoughts for the future.

As many people will know from my contributions to this year's and last
year's Wikimedia conference, or from the training workshop we held in
London in early March, this is an issue where I feel the movement (or, at
least, the part of the movement that is involved in movement
organisations!) can and should do better.

I was interested to read the Signpost coverage of the Wikimedia
Conference(1) which evidently comes from a similar point of view!

We are slightly hampered by the fact that there is no single body
responsible for doing this kind of training and development work, so I
would invite everyone with a stake in this (WMF, FDC, AffCom, Chapters,
Thorgs, User Groups, interested individuals) to treat this as something
where everyone can play a role in sharing experience, scoping out the way
forward, and building a better way of doing this for the future!

Regards,

Chris


(1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-04-23/Special_report
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Please welcome Lila Tretikov, the Wikimedia Foundation's new ED

[Chris Keating]

Congratulations, Lila!
On 1 May 2014 20:49, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl wrote:

 Welcome Lila, hope to meet you in person in London. And thanks to Jan-Bart
  the other members of the transition team. I will forward this great news
 to the Dutch board  community.
 Frans Grijzenhout


 2014-05-01 20:15 GMT+02:00 Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org:

  Dear fellow community members,
 
  On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees I am delighted to
  announce that the new Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation will
  be Lila Tretikov. Lila is a widely respected Bay Area technology leader,
  most recently with SugarCRM.
 
  As many of you know, about a year ago Sue Gardner announced she planned
 to
  step down as our ED. As we launched the search for her successor, we
 spent
  some time working through the most critical requirements for the role. We
  decided the new ED should be someone with a product/engineering
 background,
  ideally in an open-source or other online community context. We wanted
  someone experienced with organisations that were growing, who'd managed
  staff and budgets comparable to ours, and who had experience creating
  continuous delivery of technology improvements in an agile context. We
  wanted a person who is oriented towards collaboration, transparency and
  openness, with some experience with complex stakeholder environments, and
  with an international orientation. We knew we needed someone with courage
  and strong personal integrity, who wouldn't be intimidated by attempts to
  censor the projects.
 
  Lila is precisely what we set out to find.
 
  Lila was born in the Soviet Union and moved to the United States alone,
 as
  a teenager. She's been working for technology companies, primarily in
 open
  source, in the Bay Area for the past 15 years. In 1999 she started her
  career at Sun Microsystems. Shortly afterwards she founded GrokDigital, a
  technology and design company. She spent three years as senior director
 of
  development at Telespree, a company that provides cloud-based wireless
 data
  services for mobile carriers. For the past eight years, she was at
  SugarCRM, where she held positions of increasing responsibility as the
  organization grew, including being in charge of internal IT, marketing,
  customer support and professional services, engineering, and product
  development. She has a stellar reputation as a leader who is highly
  skilled, collaborative, open, passionate and curious.
 
  We think Lila will be a terrific fit for the ED role. The Transition Team
  (Phoebe, Alice, Kat, Sue, Erik, Geoff, Gayle and I) voted unanimously to
  recommend her to the Board, and the Board voted unanimously to accept the
  recommendation. She strikes all of us as smart, brave and unpretentious,
  and we believe she has the skills the WMF needs.
 
  Lila is going to spend the next few weeks in learning-and-listening mode,
  and will take over the ED position from Sue at the end of the month. Her
  first priority will be to immerse herself in deepening her understanding
 of
  the Wikimedia projects.
 
  I want to close this announcement by saying a heartfelt and deeply
  appreciative thanks to Sue, who has been the Executive Director of the
  Wikimedia Foundation for the past seven years. When the Board and I hired
  Sue in 2007, we were just a chaotic little non-profit in small-town
  Florida, with a tiny staff and not much money. Over the past seven years,
  Sue's leadership has built the Foundation into an effective, well-funded
  and well-managed organisation, with integrity and a clear sense of
 purpose,
  and her steady and committed presence throughout the search process was
  integral in helping us come to this excellent result. We will be forever
  grateful for her leadership and vision, and I hope we can continue to
 rely
  on her support in the months and years ahead.
 
  In June Sue will move into a new role as a special advisor to me and
 Lila.
  She'll also take a well-earned holiday, and maybe even a bit of a
  wiki-break, before beginning to think about what she's going to do next.
  Many of us will get a chance to see her in London, at Wikimania, in
 August.
 
  The Wikimedia Foundation is delighted to have reached such a successful
  outcome to the search. My thanks to Lisa Grossman of m/Oppenheim for
  helping us with it, and I ask you to please join me in extending a warm
  welcome to Lila Tretikov, our new ED.
 
  Jan-Bart de Vreede
  Chair
  Wikimedia Board of Trustees
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

[Chris Keating]

 @Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's
 decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only
 assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication of
 said photos on the internet and willing to see them diffused.


I don't think there are pictures of someone on the internet can in any
circumstances imply that person has given their consent for those pictures
to be on the internet.

Even if it is clear that the person concerned gave permission for the
picture to be taken, that is no evidence that they have given any consent
for those pictures to be circulated.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

[Chris Keating]

Though in this case it does seem that Commons has given sound advice that
any photos submitted should be accompanied by a model release.

If only more photos on Commons had model releases!


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Chris Keating
chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:


 @Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's
 decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only
 assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication
 of
 said photos on the internet and willing to see them diffused.


 I don't think there are pictures of someone on the internet can in any
 circumstances imply that person has given their consent for those pictures
 to be on the internet.

 Even if it is clear that the person concerned gave permission for the
 picture to be taken, that is no evidence that they have given any consent
 for those pictures to be circulated.

 Chris

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

[Chris Keating]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:51 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I will say, in Lila's defense, that I've been impressed with what I've
 seen of her in public. (:

 However, Wil, I agree with points others have made. I'm concerned that
 you're going to create drama with what you're doing here, and make Lila's
 and WMF's jobs more complicated. I am assuming good faith that you are
 well-intentioned, but I am worried, not so much for your sake but for the
 community's, Lila's, and WMF's.


I will just add a little to Pine's comments here.

The way the Wikimedia movement has developed, we've ended up with some
prominent fora that tend to be high-drama and low-effectiveness. Even this
list has a fairly low signal-to-noise ratio most of the time, as in many
threads the people with real insights into a situation tend not to post for
one reason or another, while people with axes to grind do so far more.

If you want to explore the Wikimedia movement then absolutely great, but
there are better ways to do it! Pine's suggestions are a good start - also,
there are various conferences and events, I think there's one in the USA
coming up, then Wikimania in London in a few months.

Also, just a word about free speech. If you or someone close to you is in a
leadership position, then you have responsibilities - either to them, or to
the organisation, or to both. I'm a bit concerned that if conversations
like this one keep going, then when Lila comes out of watch and listen
mode, the first thing she's going to hear from this list is a bunch of
questions about you.

I think one of the main learning points for the Foundation over the last
few years is that there is only a certain amount of oxygen in the
community for thought and discussion. If I were you I'd do Lila the favour
of making sure that she can use as much of that oxygen as she wants, and
limit the amount you're taking for yourself.

Kind regards, and look forward to meeting you sometime,

Chris




 I would like to show you some options for places where the style of
 conversation you are using would be a better fit, where you can ask
 questions and have discussions, and which are less politically sensitive
 than this list is. Of course you are welcome on this list if you have
 cross-wiki suggestions or can't get questions answered elsewhere, and I
 respect your right to free speech, but I would ask you to consider these
 suggestions.

 On English Wikipedia, you will find friendly and helpful people at our
 Teahouse. [1] For questions and realtime help you can also visit
 #wikipedia-en-help on Freenode IRC.

 If you want to get to know Wikipedians, I suggest that you join local
 volunteer meetups such Wiknic if there is one in your area. In those
 circumstances most people are happy to socialize. [2] If you are able to
 attend WikiConference USA in New York, I think you would enjoy it. [3]

 If you want to have electronic conversations that are more chatty and less
 formal than the discussions on this list, I suggest IRC. #wikipedia-en is a
 high profile channel and many of the questions that you asked here could be
 discussed in there. And as I said above, for realtime help you can visit
 #wikipedia-en-help. However, I ask as a personal favor that you don't have
 conversations in #wikimedia-office which is the main WMF channel. I can't
 stop you from talking there any more than I can take away your free speech
 rights, but I think any communications in there from you would create more
 complications.

 I feel it's ok for you or any Wikipedian in good standing to talk on WO if
 they want, but engaging in semi-official diplomacy is a very different
 matter, if that's what you're doing (I haven't checked your edits and I
 don't want to). There may come a time when you have the community's trust
 and can act in
  high-profile ways with the support of the community, but at the moment
 the discussion on this email list tells me that your actions are creating
 complications to the start of Lila's tenure in ways that have me worried.
 To use an analogy, imagine Michelle Obama saying in public that her
 personal opinion is that Barack Obama should have diplomatic talks with
 insert hostile country here or revoke insert executive order here, or
 that she personally has been conducting outreach to insert hostile country
 here without going through the State Department. That would create
 complications for Barack Obama and lots of other people, even though
 Michelle has a right to communicate her views.

 I am available to answer questions if you have any for me. You can ask on
 my Meta talk page, on my English Wikipedia talk page, through email, or set
 up a time to meet me on IRC or Skype. I'm sure other participants in this
 discussion would also be willing to talk with you in places other than this
 list.

 If I have misunderstood your position please correct me. I appreciate your
 interest in Wikipedia and I hope you will be a net positive to the
 community. 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

[Chris Keating]

Thanks AffComm - it is great to see this moving forward.

I have added this info to the Organisational Development page on Meta;

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organisational_development

Chris


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Greetings,

 Based on continuing changes to Wikimedia's approach to movement affiliates
 (chapters, thematic organizations, and user groups), input from the
 community, and discussions with WMF board and staff - the Affiliations
 Committee has begun work on expanding our support of affiliates once the
 recognition process itself concludes.

 An early step that we are taking is to provide each Wikimedia movement
 affiliate with at least one liaison from the Affiliations Committee to help
 with communications, finding resources, answering questions, and supporting
 successful contributions to the Wikimedia movement.

 Each member of the Affiliations Committee is assigned as a liaison to
 multiple affiliates. Each affiliate will be assigned a primary liaison, who
 will be their main contact, and a secondary liaison, who is available if
 the primary is not and able to help with more complex situations. While an
 affiliate's liaisons may change over time, they will always have at least
 one liaison assigned to them. We will soon be adding more members to the
 committee, so there are a few liaison assignments not yet filled.

 Liaisons will be making initial contact in the coming weeks - and will then
 be in contact periodically, or affiliates may contact them at any time. We
 welcome any feedback or ideas on how we can help support your chapters,
 thematic org, or user group moving forward.

 More info - including specific liaison assignments:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Liaisons

 -greg aka varnent
 Vice-Chair
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Right to be forgotten

[Chris Keating]

As I understand it, the right to be forgotten will only affect the
discoverability of content, rather than existence of content.

So if we rely on a source which says that person X did Y many years ago,
and X succeeds in invoking their right to be forgotten, then the source
will no longer appear in search engine results. The source, whether offline
or online, will continue to exist and will continue to be a valid reference.

My understanding may well be wrong, and if there is anything that
summarises this issue as it affects Wikimedians I would be really
interested to read it.

Chris


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you think that the right to be forgotten may change something in the
 Wikipedia's sources and in the work done by volunteers to write Wikipedia?

 Google announced that they will apply the right to be forgotten in Europe
 and some names may disappear in the big search engine.


 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/30/google-launches-right-to-be-forgotten-webform-for-removal-requests

 Regards

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 Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre
 Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

[Chris Keating]

  I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal
  personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when you
  set out to avoid acquiring it.

 On this point I must disagree.


I'd be interested to hear why :-)

I think also though that if editors are potentially liable, then so are
legal persons that engage in similar activity. Say for instance a European
Wikimedia chapter engaged with a national archive to update Wikidata with a
few million records, including some on living people. Arguably both of them
could be acting as data controllers on those records for the rest of the
duration of Wikidata. Hm.



   However, even if my line of thinking is correct, I think Wikipedia's
  existing policies wouldn't need much amendment. Processing of personal
 data
  is allowed so long as it complies with the various duties on data
  processors, e.g. being accurate and processed for a legitimate purpose.

 Accuracy is no defense! That's one of the chief lessons of the ECJ
 opinion. And building an encyclopedia is not named as a legitimate
 purpose by the ECJ. (If it were, all Google would have to do is
 revive its own experiment in encyclopedias, Knol, but this time give
 it a compatible Creative Commons license.)

  We have quite a clear purpose in processing data - the provision of an
  encyclopedia. We already limit ourselves to truthful and accurate
 coverage
  of data subjects (e.g. the BLP policy); and we already have something
  analogous to a public-interest test as to whether we process this data at
  all (the notability principle).

 Google has a clear purpose too, and it was no defense. Plus, there is
 a public-interest argument in favor of eschewing the erasure of true,
 accurate public data that happens to be old.


This is all the case, but the decision makes it clear that this is a
question in striking a balance between the interests of the data subject
(the right to be forgotten, i.e. the ability to enjoy a private life),
and the interests of others. This derives from Article 7(f) of the original
directive.

It also makes it clear that this balance may be struck in different places
in different situations; for instance at Paragraph 81, talking about the
balance of public interest in people who have taken a role in public
life[1] who are arguably the sort we cover in our articles.

I'd agree that there is no clarity about what would happen if someone
pursued this course of action with Wikipedia, but there are many
differences between our case and Google's...

Chris


[1]
http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=docid=152065pageIndex=0doclang=ENmode=reqdir=occ=firstpart=1cid=95716
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

[Chris Keating]

 Whatever the right to be forgotten may turn out to be, it's not
 about publication of previously unpublished information. Ergo, it's
 not about invasion of privacy, broadly speaking. The opinion makes
 clear that one can publish true, accurate, already-published
 information and nevertheless be compelled to erase it by an individual
 or entity invoking a right to be forgotten.


I think there's a philosophical issue about privacy here. As far as I can
see the ECJ interprets privacy as the right to enjoy a private life,
and sees any party holding a significant amount of data about a private
individual without good reason as a potential infringement on that right,
regardless of whether that information was previously published or not.

There is a narrower interpretation of privacy as the right of private
individuals to control what information about them is published, which I
think is implied by your post.

From my own point of view and at the philosophical rather than practical
level, I think the ECJ's approach is better suited to what privacy means
these days.

Chris



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[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on the affiliate-selected Board seats process

[Chris Keating]

I have jotted down a few notes on the recent process for the selection by
movement affiliates of Foundation board members. As you might recall, the
result of this year's process was announced last week.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats

Please join in if you have any comments! The more observations that are
made now, from whatever quarter, while the process is relatively fresh in
peoples' minds, the better :-)

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

[Chris Keating]

 I expect this would be an interesting meeting if people are interested in
 participating, and I hope that we would brainstorm some ideas about how we
 want to move forward on all of these questions and others if we have time.


Hi Pine,

I think it would be much more productive to think about these kinds of
issues (and indeed those that Jane and Anders have brought up) inside a
Wikimedia movement strategic planning process, rather than trying to set up
a separate one (even more so, a separate one with an implicit assumption of
creating a project fork, which I think is what you're proposing).

I think your suggested solution is actually at a different scale to the
problem you're having. I can certainly see there are upset people. But I
think the way to move things forward would be to have more conversation
about How quickly do technical developments from WMF need to go? and How
can we get a smoother relationship between WMF product developers and
long-term editors?. I think those are much more sensible conversations to
have, rather than either Should MediaViewer be on or off by default?
(that's been answered) or How can I replace the Wikimedia Foundation with
something I like more? (which is unlikely to achieve very much).

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMCON14 - Feedback evaluation financial overview

[Chris Keating]

Hi Wenke,

Many thanks for this, it's very useful reading!

I wonder if there is any more detail about each of the individual sessions.
Not everyone attended each session so it would be interesting to see how
each session was evaluated by the people who were present (either
numerically or with comments made)

If you have this information it would be really useful for future
conferences.

Regards,

Chris


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Wenke Storn wenke.st...@wikimedia.de
wrote:

 Dear Wikimedians,

 I am very happy to provide you with the two final information regarding the
 Wikimedia Conference 2014.

 Please find the results of the feedback survey here:


 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Feedback_evaluation

 And the financial overview can be seen here:


 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Budget_and_finances

 It was a great pleasure to organize this year’s conference.

 Thanks to all people who made it possible.

 Kindest regards from Berlin!

 Wenke

 -
 Wenke Storn
 Eventmanagerin

 Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
 Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0

 http://wikimedia.de

 Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
 Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
 der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
 Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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[Wikimedia-l] Movement Board training workshop - last spaces available!

[Chris Keating]

Hi all,

A handful of spaces are still left for the Wikimedia movement Boards
training workshop on 7 August.

This would be great for anyone on a Chapter or Thematic Organisation board
who wants to make best advantage of Wikimania to sharpen their governance
skills.

Further details
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_August_2014

Registration link is here;

http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-august-2014-tickets-11581102389

Do let me know if there are any questions!

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

[Chris Keating]

In that case how would the Foundation tell if someone made a number of
donations of under $1k that were declarable in aggregate?
Hi Lisa,

I admit I am not an expert in U.S. tax law, so I could be entirely
misinterpreting it. But my read of the IRS instructions are that donors who
donate more than $5000 in one year must be reported, *except* that any
single donation of less than $1000 may be discounted when calculating this
total. This seems to be a provision to reduce compliance costs, so small
donations don't have to be tracked when determining when a donor has
donated more than $5000 in a year.

Does that mean Wikimedia could accept donations of less than $1000 without
asking for personal information?

Best,
Mark


On 7/31/14, 12:15 AM, Lisa Gruwell wrote:

 Hi Pine-

 The threshold is an aggregate limit in a calendar year.  If we were to
 limit the donation amount to under $5000, a person could give several
 donations that totaled over $5000 in a single year (which happens) and then
 we would not be compliance.  Instead of trying to create a spike for every
 scenario like this, we find it safest just to ask for the information.

 Best,
 Lisa


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

  Heh. If this discussion gets too technical we can move it off-list. At the
 moment if Fundraising just wants to say we'll work on this for future
 improvenents to the Bitcoin donation system and posting that statement in
 the blog entry and the donation screen would be ok IMO.

 I am rarely satisfied with it's complicated as an answer to anything. (:

 Pine
   On Jul 30, 2014 2:47 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sure -- I think it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask, and

 reasonable

 discussion to have. It just appeared to me that you were expecting a
 detailed explanation from the chief revenue officer, which didn't seem

 like

 a reasonable expectation. Maybe I was wrong though. If others want to use
 this list to debate the finer points of US tax law and effective privacy
 practices for donations, I won't be the one standing in the way :)

 Pete


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

  In the crowdsourced world, I like to think that we evaluate ideas and
 programs based on their merits rather than who makes a decision. I

 grant

 that some heirarchy is good and necessary, and in this case the

 heirarchy

 made a reasoned decision to include Bitcoin in the donation options,

 and

 did so in a way that makes a lot of sense except that one of the

 primary

 attractions of Bitcoin, privacy, seems to have not been a priority. I'm
 asking about how this can be addressed. It's possible that WMF can't

 offer

 to accept anonymous bitcoin donations at all, but as an optimist I like

 to

 think that it can, and my experience with other nonprofits is that
 anonymous donations are possible.

 Pine
 On Jul 30, 2014 2:26 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:

  Pine, I think Lisa already answered your question -- it's

 complicated.

 It's

 possible (based on my limited knowledge, anyway) that what you

 suggest

 is

 possible; but she never said it was impossible. She said it was the

 safest

 approach, given a complicated scenario. This is her professional

 expertise,

 so we have to assume a basic level of competence to make those

 judgment

 calls.

 Don't we?
 Pete
 [[User:Peteforsyth]]


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Lisa,

 Hm, that is different from my understanding of the IRC. You are

 required

 to

 offer a receipt, not to actually send one if the donor declines,

 right?

 Then you could have a checkbox to disable personal info and the

 receipt.

 You could also enable anonymous donations under $5000 or whatever

 the

 threshold is for reporting the donor's info to the IRS, right?

 Pine
 On Jul 30, 2014 2:06 PM, Lisa Gruwell lgruw...@wikimedia.org

 wrote:

 As Andrew said, it is complicated.  We decided that asking for

 the

 information was the safest approach and best enables to comply

 with

 U.S.

 laws as well as laws in other countries.  For example, we are

 required

 to

 send a receipt for tax purposes to U.S. donors who give over a

 certain

 amount and we have already today received gifts through bitcoin

 over

 that

 threshold.


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com

 wrote:

 Nonprofits in the US are only required to report major donors

 AFAIK.

 Bitcoins aren't assets with more  complicated transfer rules

 like

 real

 estate or stock shares. Simple property donations like a can of

 food

 for

 a

 food bank don't require identification info.
 Pine
 On Jul 30, 2014 1:01 PM, Andrew Gray 

 andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk

 wrote:

 Hi Pine,

 The IRS link includes the note that:

 A payment made using virtual currency is subject to

 information

 reporting to the same extent as any other payment made in

 property.

 - no 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Insights of the Chapters Dialogue are online!

[Chris Keating]

All we have to do now is answer some of those questions!
On 9 Aug 2014 15:22, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info wrote:

 Thank you so much to everyone involve in work. It's awesome!


 2014-08-09 14:29 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de:

  Hi all,
 
  we have just published the Chapters Dialogue movie. 1 year condensed into
  30 minutes.
 
  https://vimeo.com/102508380
 
  Upload to Commons and subtitles will follow soon.
 
  Enjoy!
  Nicole
 
 
  On 1 August 2014 21:28, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote:
 
   Dear Wikimedia friends,
  
   I am happy to announce that we have finally released the documentation
   of the Chapters Dialogue project.
  
   You might probably remember: The Chapters Dialogue was the project
   that was initiated by Wikimedia Deutschland in spring 2013, my former
   colleague Kira Krämer interviewed representatives from Wikimedia
   Chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation as well as Funds Dissemination and
   Affiliations Committee. Kira and I presented the insights at several
   occasions already, and now the written report is at your disposal.
  
   Please find all the information on the Meta page:
   https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Dialogue
  
   For those of you who are already on their way into the weekend, to
   London, or reading via mobile, I’m copying the Executive Summary of
   the findings at the end of this email.
  
   Luckily, Wikimania is coming and I will be available to answer your
   questions and reflect on ideas or concerns with anyone interested.
   I’ll be in London from Tuesday till Monday, and will host a session on
   the Chapters Dialogue insights on Saturday from 12:15 to 13:00 in room
   Auditorium 1[1]. Attendees of this session will witness the premier of
   the Chapters Dialogue movie, which will be released to the public
   shortly after. If you cannot attend the session and don’t find me
   hanging around at the Wikimedia Deutschland booth in the Community
   Village, you can reach me via my user page[2] or via email.
  
   I would like to take this opportunity to again express my sincere
   gratitude to everyone who participated, be it as one of the 94
   interviewees or one of our mentors, critical friend or supporter in
   any other way. It’s been a blast!
  
   A very special and very warm thank you goes out to Kira. Together, we
   rocked this last year and went through most exciting times. Kira is no
   longer working for WMDE, but I promised to forward her every comment
   and email that we receive from you.
  
   Best regards,
   Nicole
  
  
   [1]
  
 
 https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_State_of_Wikimedia_-_A_movement_Dialogue
   [2]
  https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nicole_Ebber_%28WMDE%29
  
  
  
   Wikimedia Deutschland – Chapters Dialogue
   Nicole Ebber (Project Lead), Kira Krämer (Project Manager)
  
   Executive Summary
   Wikimedia is a global movement: the Wikimedia Foundation, the
   Wikimedia Chapters and the international communities work and fight
   for Free Knowledge. In spring 2013, Wikimedia Deutschland initiated a
   structured assessment of the movement organisations’ needs, goals and
   stories: the Chapters Dialogue. Nicole Ebber led the project and hired
   Kira Krämer, who adapted the Design Thinking methodology to the
   process.
  
   In the course of the project (August 2013-February 2014), 94 movement
   representatives (volunteers and staff) from Chapters, the Wikimedia
   Foundation as well as the Funds Dissemination Committee and the
   Affiliations Committee were interviewed.
  
   The interviewees spoke about their understanding of roles and
   relationships within the movement, of responsibilities that come with
   being a Chapter or being the WMF. They described their goals and
   stories, what support they need and who they think is in a position to
   offer this support.
  
   The synthesis of all the interviews resulted in an overall picture of
   the movement and a distillate of the most pressing issues. The
   findings and insights cover these main areas, which have had a great
   influence on the movement as it is today.
  
   Lack of empathy and the persistence of old narratives: All the
   conflicts described in this report are based on causes that are deep
   rooted and manifested in people’s perceptions about each other that
   still persist today. Each party in the movement has its own needs and
   tries to solve issues in its own interests, while lacking empathy for
   other views, opinions, contexts and behaviour.
  
   Measuring success when exploring new territory: The movement lacks a
   definition of what impact actually means to it, as all Wikimedia
   activities can be described as exploring entirely new territory.
   Chapters struggle with proving that they and their activities are
   worth invested in while WMF has difficulty providing a clear movement
   strategy.
  
   Organisational structures: Organisational 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

[Chris Keating]

 It is clear to me that the Foundation has agreed on this sneaky change
 behind closed doors while some of the most outspoken Wikimedia
 volunteers were (and still are) gathered in London.


It's interesting you mention Wikimania, because one of the things I took
away from the conference was the idea that if Wikimedia sites keep on
looking and acting like they did in 2004, we'll get left behind by the rest
of the internet

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

[Chris Keating]

 I think the most helpful thing would be to not attempt to start wars, and
 particularly not on behalf of anyone or against individuals. We are all on
 the same side here: trying to make the projects (and the project
 interfaces, as a part of that) better. That includes, for instance, trying
 out a new way of viewing photographs.

 I assume of course and as always that you send your message from a place of
 also wanting the projects to be better and more usable. But it is hard to
 see how anything you suggest above gets us there.


I agree with everything Phoebe's said.

In particular, I find it difficult to take people seriously when they're
suggesting solutions like disabling the German Wikipedia. I am more
than a little surprised this even needs to be said.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

[Chris Keating]

 Does either of you or anyone else see a valid reason to deny this
 seemingly reasonable and considered request? It's quite obvious that hacks
 to achieve the same ends are far from ideal. Why not simply disable
 MediaViewer by default on the German Wikipedia, as requested?


In my view, the technical configuration and user experience of WMF wikis
are areas where community discussion is advisory rather than decisive.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

[Chris Keating]

On 14 Aug 2014 14:50, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

  A pattern we see over and over is that the developers talk at length
  about what they're working on in several venues, then it's released
  and people claiming to speak for the community claim they were not
  adequately consulted. Pretty much no matter what steps were taken to
  do so, and what new steps are taken to do so. Because there's always
  someone who claims their own lack of interest is someone else's fault.
 

 Talking in several venues about what one is doing cannot be considered
 consensus building. Actually it is the opposite, because it is an
extrinsic
 change and as such it cannot be appropriated by any ad-hoc community. Even
 worse, it gives developers the wrong impression that they are working
under
 general approval, when actually they might be communicating only with the
 people that normally would accept their project, but not the ones that
 normally would reject it.

how should this be solved?

To me it's saying that no matter who is informed, the WMF can never expect
that their work won't be overruled.

That is problematic (regardless of who has the final authority)


 Cheers,
 Micru
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

[Chris Keating]

I'm approaching this thread with some trepidation, but would someone mind
telling me more about this - or pointing to where this issue is already
documented? (I have no idea how to navigate Bugzilla ;) )


 2. Specifically it appears that MV breaks CC-BY-SA-3.0.  Details on
 Bugzilla.


Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

[Chris Keating]

I was always a little surprised by the name Wikimedia Conference. After
all, that name would most logically belong to the big, open, week-long
event that draws over a thousand people together to talk about every aspect
of the movement.*

However, that event is already called Wikimania, which also doesn't make
sense to me. In James F's phrase , it's a bit of a lie, as it doesn't deal
with mania or other mental health issues, and it isn't exclusively attended
by men (except to a very broad approximation).

Therefore I propose we start by renaming Wikimania to the Wikimedia
Conference.

That leaves open what we call the slightly boring get-together where we
talk about how movement organisations can improve their governance and
programme measurement. As an interim step I suggest using the now-unused
term Wikimania until a suitable committee can determine the correct name
for the event, hopefully before the event occurs.

So I am just heading over to Meta to move all Wikimania pages to the name
Wikimedia Conference and vice versa. I trust this will clarify the matter.

*NB please ignore the rest of the post from this point forward.
On 12 Sep 2014 07:31, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 One additional nice benefit from having the affiliates conference be a
 pre-Wikimania conference is that those who don't want to or are excluded
 from the affiliate portions of the event can attend other portions like the
 education pre-conference or the pre-conference hackathon.

 Can we please move this discussion to Meta?

 Thanks,

 Pine

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Ed Saperia edsape...@gmail.com wrote:

  It would, however, significantly increase the work for the Wikimania
  organisers. They didn't sign up to programme and organise an affiliate
 org
  conference, so they shouldn't have to if they don't want to.
 
  Guestlists cause all sorts of politics, but are a necessary evil when
  dealing with limited resources. Choices must be made, and it's up to the
  hosts to decide who gets to come. A mission statement for the conference
  might help alleviate some of the bad feeling, but there will inevitably
 be
  some as long as there are fewer places than people.
 
  Ed Saperia
  Conference Coordinator Wikimania London
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On 12 Sep 2014, at 01:44, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I like the idea of having this event be a pre-conference for Wikimania.
   That may reduce total travel costs and travel time for the people who
   usually attend both events. This may also simplify planning for people
  and
   thorgs.
  
   Pine
   On Sep 11, 2014 5:25 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Richard Symonds 
   richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
  
   What I'm saying is, let's plan a conference before we argue over the
   name.
  
  
   But, most of the people on this list wouldn't have anything to do with
  this
   conference -- surely there's a better resource for
 conference-planning.
  
   The thing most of us have a stake in is the name of the conference,
 and
  --
   perhaps -- nothing more.
  
   Pete
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

[Chris Keating]

The word Conference doesn't in itself imply that an event is open or
closed.

C
On 12 Sep 2014 13:06, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:

 But Wikimania is not only a Wikimedia Conference.

 It's a conference open to all people outside the Wikimedia movement.

 If the name should be as much as possible explicative, the switch from
 Wikimania to Wikimedia Conference is inappropriate.

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:

 
  We can be both more sensible and sensitive by calling this conference
  something else. As has been suggested, Wikimedia Conference (maybe
  WikiCon for short) would be more appropriate.
 
  ,Wil
 
  On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   I would really appreciate if the discussion can move in other questions
   concerning for instance the cost saving and the participation instead
 of
   speaking of a name.
 
 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimenting on Wikimedians

[Chris Keating]

  Of course the stark reality is that A/B testing on users (typically
 readers, not editors) during the annual Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser
 has been a major component of the Wikimedia Foundation's growth.


 In part that's a myth. The income has been increased simply by making the
 banners larger, brighter, naughtier and alarming (we're in danger, bla
 bla). Sometimes they take more space than is left to the article; sometimes
 they can't be dismissed.


Hi Nemo - I can't agree with this at all. The banners from the 2013
campaign (the last I can readily find) are no bigger or scarier than those
from 2011. On the whole they are much less interruptive, as they are
displayed less consistently; and they attract far less third-party
attention than the Jimmy banners.

The increase in efficiency through the banner campaign has been truly
remarkable!

 If there was a way to get the same kind of result on (say) the number of
new editors who stick around and contribute more that would be great.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

[Chris Keating]

 However, by keeping the team's formation a secret, and not involving the
 Chapters' financial staff in the conceptualisation stage (even as advanced
 warning), does not start the concept off with good will.


While completely understanding the point you're making, I would mainly
suggest not worrying about this. Many things going on in among Wikimedia
movement organisations are imperfect steps in the right direction and it's
more important to focus on the step in the right direction bit.

In many ways it's all so new and diverse that we currently are one level of
abstraction beyond sharing learning and information. We are still in the
process of learning how to share learning and of gathering information
about what information there is.

I suspect the Finance Fellows may make a very valuable contribution even if
their results are a bit less concrete than they anticipate. Hopefully the
dialogue here will be helpful in shaping their approach.

Chris
(Wikimedia UK trustee, though speaking personally as usual)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Chris Keating]

I'd like to add my own thanks to Jon - for doing so much to transform the
scale and impact of Wikimedia UK's work over the last three years,  and for
your invaluable steadiness and tenacity in dealing with the very
significant challenges that the chapter's faced during that time.

Many best wishes for the future!

Chris
On 11 Nov 2014 09:12, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 Further to Jon's announcement that he will be leaving Wikimedia UK at the
 end of this year to pursue new challenges, I would like on behalf of the
 board to express our thanks for the exceptional levels of passion and
 commitment that Jon has brought to his role as CEO over the last three
 years.

 Jon has been instrumental in urging WMUK and our sister chapters to aim
 for higher levels of professionalism, and has demonstrated the results of
 professionalism and hard work by delivering WMUK's widely-respected
 contribution to Wikimania London.  We are proud of what was achieved at
 Wikimania, and Jon can justifiably be proud of his invaluable personal
 contribution to that success.

 The WMUK board will be taking some time to consider Jon's replacement, and
 will be consulting widely over the next few months.  To provide continuity
 we will in the meantime be appointing an interim CEO, and we are extremely
 pleased that Jon has agreed to the interim CEO starting work this month to
 allow a smooth hand-over period up to the end of the year.

 We wish Jon all the best in his new chosen role, and we look forward to
 continuing to collaborate with him as a friend and volunteer.

 Regards

 Michael

 
 Michael Maggs
 WMUK Chair


  On 11 Nov 2014, at 09:10, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 
  With some sadness I have to tell you that I will be leaving Wikimedia UK,
  as an employee, if not as a volunteer, at the end of the year. I have
  achieved what I set out to do and leave WMUK in a good state. I now need
 to
  look for new challenges.
 
  I was the first chief executive and it has been an amazing three years
  watching the chapter grow and develop. It has not always been smooth
  sailing but we have come through it together in good shape. Wikimania
  proved how professional we had become and the positive feedback from the
  participants makes all the work we put in worthwhile.
 
  My heartfelt thanks to everyone in the community, particularly the
  volunteers who are at the heart of all we do, my great colleagues at the
  Foundation and the loyal and hardworking staff at WMUK who have supported
  me so ably and with such good humour over the years.
 
  My best wishes go to my successor in all they seek to achieve.
 
  Cyhoeddiad gan Jon
 
  Gyda pheth tristwch rwy'n eich hysbysu y byddaf yn gadael Wikimedia UK,
 fel
  cyflogai, os nad
 
  fel gwirfoddolwr, ar ddiwedd y flwyddyn. Dw i wedi cyflawni'r hyn roeddwn
  wedi'i obeithio a dw
 
  i'n gadael WMUK ar delerau da. Edrychaf ymlaen rwan am sialensau newydd.
 Fi
  oedd y Prif Weithredwr cyntaf ac mae'r dair blynedd diwethaf wedi bod yn
  hollol anhygoel,
 
  wrth i mi weld y siaptr yn tyfu a datblygu. Doedd y daith bob amser ddim
 yn
  llyfn, ond daethom drwyddi'n y diwedd yn ddianaf! Profodd Wikimania inni
  aeddfedu mewn modd proffesiynol a chafwyd adborth adeiladol gan y
 cyfranwyr
  oedd yn gwneud yr holl waith yn bleser.
 
  Carwn ddiolch o waelod fy ngalon i bawb o fewn ein cymuned, yn enwedig y
  gwirfoddolwyr sy'n sylfaen i'n gwaith, fy nghydweithwyr bendigedig yn
  Sylfaen Wikimedia a'r staff sydd wedi bod mor driw i mi, wedi fy
 nghefnogi
  mor effeithiol ac wedi gweithio mor arbennig o galed dros y blynyddoedd
 ­ a
  hynny gyda hiwmor iach. Dymunaf pob llwyddiant i f'olynydd ym mhopeth y
  ceisiant ei gyflawni.
 
  Jon.
 
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  tweet @jonatreesdavies
 
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  Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
  Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
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  United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
  movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
  operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
  Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990.
 
  Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

[Chris Keating]

Interestingly I've just received a fundraising email localised to the UK
which doesn't offer any opportunity to give by direct debit. This is the
main form of regular giving in the UK, and the alternative that is offered
(regular gifts via credit card) is generally deprecated as it gives the
donor far less control over their money.

I know the  WMF used to have a solution to handle more payment methods - I
wonder if that's been discontinued for reasons of cost/simplicity?

(The email also doesn't appear to include any of the learning about the
right ask amounts to ask for monthly gifts in the UK from the 2011 campaign
but that might be my fault for not publishing those results ;) )
On 22 Nov 2014 07:42, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not 100%
 sure that the US based people running the fundraiser fully comprehend - I
 am assuming this is the case), but there seems to be some reason why the
 WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they choose
 not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this, and as
 Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer being
 allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all
 speculation.

 I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there was a
 few years back. It feels very much that we are, as a community, being fed
 canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that and
 there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank
 transfer that cannot be disclosed...

 Best,
 Lodewijk

 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl
 wrote:

 
  To amplify:
 
  Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires
  electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the standard,
  default, baseline way to make payments at all.
 
  After registering a business, the very next action is to open an (IBAN)
  account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been converted
  to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN.
 
  If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support IBAN.
 
  Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or paypal
  accounts.
 
  Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone.
 
  iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline
  requirement.
 
  sincerely,
  Kim
 
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote:
   Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk:
  
you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer
  (using
an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page
  
   Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very different
   from country to country. And making transfers from one bank account to
   an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where complex
 and
   expensive.
  
   There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has
   never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now.
  
   The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in a
   fair chunk of the globe.
  
  
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption
  
   Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans , people
   can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without
   additional expenses.
  
   Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international payments to
   an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly not
   free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation.
  
  
   The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards.
   Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit card.
  
   But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used to
   total other payment systems.
  
   A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people using
   cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember my
   dad using cheques 30 years ago. I never came in to contact with a
 cheque
   since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History. Extinct.
  
   But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF - when
   you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer made
   for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so
 good
   to be willing to make an donation.
  
   Walter
  
  
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 Evaluation Survey Results Posted!

[Chris Keating]

Thanks Maria - really interesting to see such a thorough evaluation - as
well as good to see very positive feedback for the event.

I wondered out of curiousity if there was any discernable difference in
responses between long-term Wikimedians and people with less previous
exposure to the Wikimedia movement?

Thanks,

Chris



On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Maria Cruz mc...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 *tl;dr: *You can find the results of the Wikimania 2014 Evaluation Survey
 on Wikimedia Commons *[1]*

 Greetings,


 Today we posted a slide deck summarizing data from the Wikimania evaluation
 survey from this year’s event in London. The survey was a collaborative
 effort of the Wikimania Conference and Hackathon organizers and the WMF
 Learning and Evaluation team. Conferences and hackathons had been
 identified as key programs to develop evaluation insight.   Given the
 opportunity to collaborate on an evaluation survey,  WMF team members
 partnered with conference and hackathon organizers to provide the technical
 support to complete the survey project.

 This first survey offers a look into the processes and outcomes of the
 conference. It is intended as a means for  participants to share what they
 got out of the conference and a platform to collect information on how we
 can improve future conferences and their evaluation. We have released  a
 basic data summary and meta page with brief highlights of the survey and
 link to a pdf slide deck published to Commons *[1]*.


 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Case_studies/Wikimania_London_Survey_Results

 == Methodology ==

 * Online survey via Qualtrics *[2]*

 * Data collection:

 ** August 10th – September 15th, 2014

 ** Conference participants: 1520

 ** Survey Respondents: n=792 (52% of conference participants)

 === The Conference Overall ===

 * Participants were highly satisfied with the conference overall.

 * 91% of respondents rated the conference as Good (48%) or Excellent
 (43%)

 * 87% indicated their expectations had been met (48%) or exceeded (39%)

 * The most named benefits of attending Wikimania were meeting people and
 finding out about projects.

 Favorite talks:

1.

Creative Ways to Alienate Women Online: A How To Guide for Wikipedians
(by Steven Walling and Maryana Pinchuk)
2.

Which Law Applies to Wikipedia (by Tobias Lutzi)
3.

Raph Koster: A Theory of Fun
4.

Jack Andraka
5.

Education (by members of the Wiki Ed Foundation and Education
Collaborative)


 Please visit the page *[3]* for basic details or follow the links to the
 slide deck *[1]*. The complete survey data are available upon request and
 will be used by both the conference and the hackathon planning groups for
 their use in planning for future events and their evaluation. In addition,
  the Learning and Evaluation team will also work to review and incorporate
 these results, along with evaluation data from other conferences, in the
 second round of Program Evaluation reports currently in progress. The
 conference financial report is also underway, however, it will also be
 available sometime in the new year. Keep an eye out for these additional
 points of reporting to become available in early 2015!


 On  behalf of all who have collaborated in this evaluation survey, those
 who helped with its development, the 792 participants who completed it, and
 those involved in the its analysis, and now, interpretation: thank you for
 your time, attention, and support! We are happy to be part in this
 collective learning about Wikimedia conferences and hackathons. Your
 questions are welcome, and encouraged, on the talk page.




 *María Cruz * \\  Community Coordinator, PED Team \\ Wikimedia Foundation,
 Inc.
 mc...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @marianarra_ https://twitter.com/marianarra_

 *[1] Summary Slide Deck*


 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2014_Participant_Survey_-_Data_Summary.pdf



 *[2] Survey Items*

 https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheets/d/1b3Qp-l8HU4WYFX2lyACLsXAcd1hlEX3q1PTmQ5zxp2c/edit?usp=sharing

 *[3] Overview Page*


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

[Chris Keating]

British cheese is better than its reputation suggests, if you know where to
look. However British cheeses are difficult to distinguish from British
breeds of pig. Gloucester Old Spot, Lincolnshire Poacher, Oxford Sandy and
Black, Balcombe Brown Ring, Yarg, Mangalitsa - can you tell which is a pig
and which is a cheese without looking it up in a popular online
encyclopedia? I think not. :)

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This is the best OT in wikimedia-l ever.

 Aubrey

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Pierre-Selim ps.hu...@gmail.com wrote:

  I recommend Trappist Rochefort 10, and gulden draak ;)
 
  Pierre-Selim
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  Let's photograph 'em all
 
  PS: I can recommend the beers: Kriek, Framboise, Peche, and some more.
 But
  it is recommend to drink these in Brussels to experience the region where
  it belongs to.
 
  In London I can recommend a Honey Dew!
 
 
 
 
  2014-11-29 11:44 GMT+01:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:
 
   I vote for Brussels  beer, I tasted them the past weeks and it asks
 for
   more.
  
   The day before yesterday I heard that some beers from Brussels are
  typical
   Brussels as the region has a special local micro climate.
  
   But I must say, I think it is good to document cheese, as well as other
   food/drinks, we should have more photos with better quality. I really
  hope
   this contributes to this.
  
   Romaine
  
   2014-11-28 10:32 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:
  
   Me too me too!
   But before, Brussels on beer.
  
   Aubrey
  
   On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Craig Franklin 
   cfrank...@halonetwork.net
   wrote:
  
Forget that, I'd like WMUK to fly me to Scotland so that I can, uh,
research and write about various types of whisky.
   
Cheers,
Craig
   
On 25 November 2014 at 18:59, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  
wrote:
   
 And next the wine project? Count me in.

 On 24 November 2014 at 18:22, Christophe Henner 
 christophe.hen...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Good news everyone,
 
  Cheese articles are gonna get improved!
 
  As french, it was dreadful for us to see so few illustrations of
   cheese
 on
  Wikipedia. This is about to change.
 
  A group of french Wikimedians, lead by Pierre-Yves Beaudouin,
   designed
a
  project to photograph many cheeses, up to 200 for the moment.
 
  This project is perticular as we aim to have it found through a
   french
  crowdfunding platform, KissKissBankBank.
 
  Of course Wikimedia France could have funded it itself, but we
   wanted
to
  use the project as a way to get the larger audience aware of
 their
 ability
  to contribute and to give a fun image of contributing.
 
  The project in few words iss follow :
  * 10 cheeses per session
  * During the session the cheeses are photographed and their
  articles
  improved
  * During the sessions experimented wikimedian would train new
   editors
  * At every session every participant would enjoy eating good
  cheese
   too
 
  If you want to read more, or even contribute, about the project
  you
   can
 go
  on KissKissBankBank :
  http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/fr/projects/wikicheese
 
 
  If you have any questions, please feel free to shoot them on or
  off
list.
 
  All the best,
 
  --
  Christophe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

[Chris Keating]

CNIEL, are they the equivalent of the British Cheese Board?  ;)
On 1 Dec 2014 18:44, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 A quick update 7 days after launch (pun intended).

 We have reached 92% of our first goal. We're receiving huge supports and an
 amazing coverage from medias. This is just awesome.

 In the latest news, we just received a 1 200€ pledge from the CNIEL

 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_national_interprofessionnel_de_l%27%C3%A9conomie_laiti%C3%A8re
 the organisation promoting dairy products in France. Just so you know, we
 did not asked them to.

 We're really happy from this unexpected support :)

 Thanks also to everyone here who helped spread the word and allowed us to
 go this far. Now, we have to reach the 9 000€ goal so we can produce a
 documentary about how cheese is made.

 Thanks again, I tried to remain brie-f



 --
 Christophe

 On 1 December 2014 at 11:58, Richard Symonds 
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

  Lincolnshire Poacher isn't just a cheese OR a pig...
 
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station)
 
  Richard Symonds
  Wikimedia UK
  0207 065 0992
 
  Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
  Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
  Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
 4LT.
  United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
  movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
  operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 
  *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
  over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
 
  On 29 November 2014 at 17:35, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   British cheese is better than its reputation suggests, if you know
 where
  to
   look. However British cheeses are difficult to distinguish from British
   breeds of pig. Gloucester Old Spot, Lincolnshire Poacher, Oxford Sandy
  and
   Black, Balcombe Brown Ring, Yarg, Mangalitsa - can you tell which is a
  pig
   and which is a cheese without looking it up in a popular online
   encyclopedia? I think not. :)
  
   On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Andrea Zanni 
 zanni.andre...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
This is the best OT in wikimedia-l ever.
   
Aubrey
   
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Pierre-Selim ps.hu...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 I recommend Trappist Rochefort 10, and gulden draak ;)

 Pierre-Selim
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 crowdfunding -
 Let's photograph 'em all

 PS: I can recommend the beers: Kriek, Framboise, Peche, and some
  more.
But
 it is recommend to drink these in Brussels to experience the region
   where
 it belongs to.

 In London I can recommend a Honey Dew!




 2014-11-29 11:44 GMT+01:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

  I vote for Brussels  beer, I tasted them the past weeks and it
  asks
for
  more.
 
  The day before yesterday I heard that some beers from Brussels
 are
 typical
  Brussels as the region has a special local micro climate.
 
  But I must say, I think it is good to document cheese, as well as
   other
  food/drinks, we should have more photos with better quality. I
  really
 hope
  this contributes to this.
 
  Romaine
 
  2014-11-28 10:32 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni 
 zanni.andre...@gmail.com
  :
 
  Me too me too!
  But before, Brussels on beer.
 
  Aubrey
 
  On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Craig Franklin 
  cfrank...@halonetwork.net
  wrote:
 
   Forget that, I'd like WMUK to fly me to Scotland so that I
 can,
   uh,
   research and write about various types of whisky.
  
   Cheers,
   Craig
  
   On 25 November 2014 at 18:59, Jon Davies 
jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
 
   wrote:
  
And next the wine project? Count me in.
   
On 24 November 2014 at 18:22, Christophe Henner 
christophe.hen...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
 Good news everyone,

 Cheese articles are gonna get improved!

 As french, it was dreadful for us to see so few
  illustrations
   of
  cheese
on
 Wikipedia. This is about to change.

 A group of french Wikimedians, lead by Pierre-Yves
  Beaudouin,
  designed
   a
 project to photograph many cheeses, up to 200 for the
  moment.

 This project is perticular as we aim to have it found
  through
   a
  french
 crowdfunding platform, KissKissBankBank.

 Of course Wikimedia France

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

[Chris Keating]

Which cheese do you use to coax a bear up a mountain?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin 
pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr wrote:



 Le 2014-12-04 14:57, Martijn Hoekstra a écrit :

  On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks again, I tried to remain brie-f 2014-12-03 18:06 GMT+00:00
 Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com: 110% !!! We bleu our
 first goal. Christophe, whether you are posting out of love for this
 awesome project

 or

  just for the sake of making puns, I cantal.

 A little humor on this thread may annoy some, but it's really a Brie of
 fresh air to me.

 Let's be serious. Sweet dreams are made of cheese. Who am I to diss a
 brie. I cheddar the world  the feta cheese. Everybody's looking for
 Stilton...

 Pyb

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

[Chris Keating]

Also, if anyone's interested in the latest news on Wikimedia UK's
governance, do have a look at our most recent governance audit - further
info here:

https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/11/final-report-on-wikimedia-uk-governance-released/

Some quotes include;

*“The charity has very largely addressed the 50 recommendations found
within the original review. WMUK has developed very quickly, and the
charity has clearly put a lot of effort into ensuring that its governance
now meets best practice expectations. It has a cohesive, skilled and
experienced board in place. They have a clear understanding of the
charity’s vision and mission”.*

*“For the stage that Wikimedia is in its life cycle it compares well with
similar UK charities. Its transparency about its procedures is a beacon of
best practice, and its conflicts of interest procedures are robust and
well-tested”.*

Regards,

Chris


On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 Hi Nick

 Over the last few years the Foundation has decisively moved away from
 allowing local chapters to take part in the on-screen fundraiser,
 preferring to centralise the work in spite of the loss of the available
 local tax reliefs (such as Gift Aid in the UK).  Many chapters, including
 the UK, would have liked to have been part of the fundraiser, but the
 previous ED, Sue Gardner, determined that that would not be permitted.
 WMUK regretted that decision, and we responded to it here:
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Open_letter_to_Sue_Gardner.

 We accept that decisions such as these are entirely within the WMF's
 remit, and we are now actively working on improving our ability - as
 recommended by the Foundation and the FDC -  to seek charitable funds
 directly from local sources, on which we can reclaim Gift Aid.

 Best regards

 Michael

 
 Michael Maggs
 Chair, Wikimedia UK

  Nick Birse mailto:w...@nbir.se
 5 December 2014 17:28

 I don't want to be seen to be taking sides and don't intend to become
 embroiled in WMUK internal politics (which is why I've never joined the
 chapter).

 I've never received an explanation as to why around $500,000 of Gift Aid
 is
 out of reach and unavailable to either WMUK or WMF, despite asking this be
 dealt with at Wikimania 2014.

 Are there easily explainable circumstances, legislation changes or new
 rules which prevent donations to WMF to be processed in such a way as to
 be
 eligible to collect Gift Aid ?

 If not, why hasn't WMF set up a British office to collect this money in
 the
 UK and/or why isn't WMUK processing payments and collecting Gift Aid this
 year ? This is a significant portion of what WMF will spend in the UK (via
 WMUK's request from the FDC) and would have made up to $500,000 available
 to spend elsewhere, either UK and/or globally.

 The Institute of Fundraising suggests overseas charities fundraising in
 the
 UK should find a British charity that can act as a strategic partner, or
 have a local office (see
 http://www.institute-of-fundraising.org.uk/guidance/
 about-fundraising/raising-money-for-charities-abroad/
 ). I understand the structure is quite different, but Greenpeace does this
 through the UK based Greenpeace Environmental Trust which is a
 registered
 charity and which can collect Gift Aid. The donations + Gift Aid are then
 passed to Greenpeace International in Amsterdam, and that funds things
 like the Rainbow Warrior.

 I would also appreciate analysis being conducted to see if the loss of
 Gift
 Aid has deterred people in the UK from donating, because not collecting
 Gift Aid is bad enough, but also losing donations would be entirely
 unforgivable.

 Kind Regards,
 Nick
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

[Chris Keating]

Hi Nathan,

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wasn't there also an issue with WMUK processing payments, in that they
 couldn't pass 100% of the donations on to the WMF but had to retain some or
 most of the funds in order to remain independent under British law?


We looked at this in some detail in 2011 when the original big discussion
about fundraising happened.

The short answer is no; Wikimedia UK would be able to send 99%+ of its
revenue to the Wikimedia Foundation as an unrestricted grant with no
regulatory problems.

The answer to this question does of course differ for different chapters.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

[Chris Keating]

I have to say, I don't see anything remotely objectionable in that email.
Bold italicised text on a yellow background might not win any design awards
but effective fundraising often doesn't win design awards.*

I am not 100% sure how much donors care how soon our fundraiser ends (these
days at least, a few years ago they did get fed up with the perpetual Jimmy
banners). However talking about that does give a sense of urgency to the
copy, which again is a key part of fundraising that actually raises money.

It is of course a reasonable point of view that the WMF and Wikimedia
movement have too much money and shouldn't really try to raise any more. If
you hold that view then I suppose it's reasonable to ask the fundraising
team to make their emails more inept. However, I don't think that is a
sensible view to take at the moment (or, probably, ever).

Chris

*(Actually, the only fundraising industry award I've ever been involved in
winning were for things that looked very nice, but that doesn't disprove
the general principle)





On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 This email was sent by WMF fundraising today.
 I'm embarrassed. Read the email first, then I'll tell you why, below.

 *Da:* Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia don...@wikimedia.org
 *Data:* 17 December 2014 10:15:56 pm GMT+1
 *A: [email address removed]*
 *Oggetto:* *Our final email*
 *Rispondi a:* don...@wikimedia.org

 *If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry
 about fundraising for the rest of the year.*

 Dear [name removed],

 This is the last email reminder you'll receive. We hope the response to
 today's email will let us end the fundraiser. Please take one minute to
 keep Wikipedia online and ad-free another year
 
 http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=NzU3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
 
 .

 To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We receive no government
 funds. We survive on donations from our readers. If all our past donors
 simply gave again today, we could end the fundraiser. Please help us forget
 fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia.

 We are deeply grateful for your past support. This year, please consider
 making another donation to protect and sustain Wikipedia
 
 http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=NzU3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
 
 .

 https://donate.wikimedia.org
 
 http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=NzU3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
 

 Thank you,
 Jimmy Wales
 Wikipedia Founder

 PS: Less than 1% of our readers donate enough to keep Wikipedia running.
 Your contribution counts!
 *DONATE NOW »*
 
 http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=NzU3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
 
 --


 our final email?
 This is the last email reminder you'll receive?
 Surely that should be qualified with ... this year.??
 If that weren't embarrassing, what about...

- Using *bold* AND *italics *AND yellow backgroud colouring all at the
same time in the heading.
- Sending an email on the 18th of December saying that if ALL past
donors simply gave AGAIN today [my emphasis] then you wouldn't need to
 do
any more fundraising for the rest of the year, i.e. for 2 weeks!!
- On the one had it says we'll never run ads but in the sentence
immediately beforehand pleads help to us stay ad-free another year.
- Does the phrase Less than 1% of our readers donate enough to keep
Wikipedia running mean a) that less than 1% of readers donate, which is
enough to keep us running, or b) that less than 1% of readers who have
donated, donated enough to keep us running (implying that the other 99%
 of
donors didn't donate enough)?
- Finally, this email is addressed from Jimmy, but when you receive a
thank you for donating email, it's addressed from Lila. [I should note
that the thank you for donating email IS very positive and
mission-oriented].


 *Effectiveness != Efficiency*
 One of the official WMF Fundraising principles
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_principles is *minimal
 disruption*...aim to raise money from donors *effectively* [emphasis is
 original].
 I believe that this wording has been interpreted by the fundraising team to
 mean **do the fundraising as quickly as possible. However, I contest that
 less disruption and more effective is not the same as shorter
 fundraiser. i.e.: Effectiveness != Efficiency.

 I am sure that these desperate fundraising emails/banners are *efficient
 *at
 getting the most amount of money as fast as possible (they have been honed
 with excellent A/B testing), but, they achieve this by sacrificing the core
 WMF fundraising principle of being *minimally disruptive. *In fact, they
 actually appear to be following a principle of being as *maximally
 *disruptive
 as they can get away with, for 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

[Chris Keating]

 Are you by any chance American?
 Cheers,
 peter


No, I'm English. :)

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

[Chris Keating]

Are you American?
On 19 Dec 2014 12:35, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net
wrote:

 I can only assume this is intended as some form of humour, but I don’t get
 it.
 Cheers,
 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
 wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gerard
 Sent: 19 December 2014 02:25 PM
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

 Everyone who speaks English is American, particularly the English.

 On 19 December 2014 at 12:21, Peter Southwood 
 peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote:
  Are you by any chance American?
  Cheers,
  peter
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
  [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
  Keating
  Sent: 19 December 2014 01:47 PM
  To: Wikimedia Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email
 
  I have to say, I don't see anything remotely objectionable in that email.
  Bold italicised text on a yellow background might not win any design
  awards but effective fundraising often doesn't win design awards.*
 
  I am not 100% sure how much donors care how soon our fundraiser ends
 (these days at least, a few years ago they did get fed up with the
 perpetual Jimmy banners). However talking about that does give a sense of
 urgency to the copy, which again is a key part of fundraising that actually
 raises money.
 
  It is of course a reasonable point of view that the WMF and Wikimedia
 movement have too much money and shouldn't really try to raise any more. If
 you hold that view then I suppose it's reasonable to ask the fundraising
 team to make their emails more inept. However, I don't think that is a
 sensible view to take at the moment (or, probably, ever).
 
  Chris
 
  *(Actually, the only fundraising industry award I've ever been
  involved in winning were for things that looked very nice, but that
  doesn't disprove the general principle)
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  This email was sent by WMF fundraising today.
  I'm embarrassed. Read the email first, then I'll tell you why, below.
 
  *Da:* Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia don...@wikimedia.org
  *Data:* 17 December 2014 10:15:56 pm GMT+1
  *A: [email address removed]*
  *Oggetto:* *Our final email*
  *Rispondi a:* don...@wikimedia.org
 
  *If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to
  worry about fundraising for the rest of the year.*
 
  Dear [name removed],
 
  This is the last email reminder you'll receive. We hope the response
  to today's email will let us end the fundraiser. Please take one
  minute to keep Wikipedia online and ad-free another year 
  http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=N
  z
  U3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
  
  .
 
  To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We receive no
  government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. If all
  our past donors simply gave again today, we could end the fundraiser.
  Please help us forget fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia.
 
  We are deeply grateful for your past support. This year, please
  consider making another donation to protect and sustain Wikipedia 
  http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=N
  z
  U3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
  
  .
 
  https://donate.wikimedia.org
  
  http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=N
  z
  U3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
  
 
  Thank you,
  Jimmy Wales
  Wikipedia Founder
 
  PS: Less than 1% of our readers donate enough to keep Wikipedia running.
  Your contribution counts!
  *DONATE NOW »*
  
  http://links.email.donate.wikimedia.org/ctt?kn=3ms=NDc2NDYzOTUS1r=N
  z
  U3Mzc1MDY0NjcS1b=0j=NTgzMzA0NDgwS0mt=1rt=0
  
  --
 
 
  our final email?
  This is the last email reminder you'll receive?
  Surely that should be qualified with ... this year.??
  If that weren't embarrassing, what about...
 
 - Using *bold* AND *italics *AND yellow backgroud colouring all at
 the
 same time in the heading.
 - Sending an email on the 18th of December saying that if ALL past
 donors simply gave AGAIN today [my emphasis] then you wouldn't
  need to do
 any more fundraising for the rest of the year, i.e. for 2 weeks!!
 - On the one had it says we'll never run ads but in the sentence
 immediately beforehand pleads help to us stay ad-free another year.
 - Does the phrase Less than 1% of our readers donate enough to keep
 Wikipedia running mean a) that less than 1% of readers donate,
 which is
 enough to keep us running, or b) that less than 1% of readers who
 have
 donated, donated enough to keep us running (implying that the
  other 99% of
 donors didn't donate enough)?
 - Finally, this email is addressed from Jimmy, but when you receive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

[Chris Keating]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Peter Southwood 
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote:

 OK, I was just wondering if acceptance of this form of marketing was an
 American thing or  more generally an English language thing. Obviously not
 universally acceptable to English speakers, even in USA and England, but
 possibly more offensive to people with other cultural backgrounds.
 Cheers,
 Peter.


Ah, I wondered if that might have been your underlying point!

I'm pretty sure the differences of views on this list on this subject
reflect different individual perspectives, not a bigger point about
cultural norms. This email could have originated from a British, Australian
or Dutch non-profit just as easily - and probably would still be effective
for the same reasons in a much wider range of cultures - I highlight those
3 because approaches to fundraising and philanthropy are pretty similar in
them.

There is a bigger difference in expected/preferred payment methods (which,
obviously, is also a subject of debate here, and one I have quite strong
views on) but that is a different question.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

[Chris Keating]

Like Bence, I would be interested to see how this kind of experiment in WMF
grantmaking works out. And also like him I would be a little surprised if
something like this is implemented with no notice period.

A couple of responses to Lodewijk's post;


 with people
 confirming my fear that this will likely undermine the community support
 (or at least support by the 'organizing community') for gendergap-related
 projects in general - be it out of frustration, compensation or jealousy.


Out of interest, were any of these people doing anything at all to support
the reduction of the gender gap in the first place? ;)



 I
 called it a 'negative campaign' in my emails because the focus is not about
 actively boosting one type of requests (which is the claim), but rather
 about making it harder to do something unrelated to it in the hope that
 people instead will choose for the easy way, and organize a gendergap
 related event.


Equally, if you have limited resources, prioritising one thing means
reducing attention to something else. So saying we shouldn't work on the
gender gap if anything else gets less atention as a result is logically
equivalent to saying We shouldn't work on the gender gap.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

[Chris Keating]

It's worth pointing out that the Board *are* responsible, even if they
aren't involved in the actual decision-making - as they are ultimately
responsible for everything WMF does.

Personally I think the present solution is better than no solution, as
cross-project disruption is not something the community is particularly
well-equipped to deal with. However, Dariusz's idea of creating a volunteer
group of some description to review these actions is definitely worth
thinking about.
Chris

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
wrote:

 2015-01-20 14:03 GMT+01:00 Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl:
  transparency does not always have to mean full public access to
 information
  (in the cases described by Philippe clearly TMI may be e.g. involving the
  community and the foundation in lengthy legal disputes, or endanger a
  discussed individual). However, I definitely understand that we, as a
  community, may have a need to externally confirm the solidity of
 reasoning
  behind bans. I think we already have functionaries of high trust (such as
  the Board and/or the stewards) who could oversee the process.

 Strong +1.

 2015-01-20 13:11 GMT+01:00 Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org:
  As has been explained multiple times in multiple places, the WMF have
 been
  advised, for very good legal reasons, not to give details.
 
  Believe it or not, there's a sensible reason behind our refusal to
 comment:
  we can execute global bans for a wide variety of things (see the Terms of
  Use for some examples - and no, provoking Jimbo is not on the list),
 some
  of which - including child protection issues - could be quite dangerous
 to
  openly divulge. Let's say we execute five global bans, and tell you the
  reason behind four of them. Well, the remaining one is pretty clearly for
  something really bad, and open knowledge of that could endanger the
 user,
  their family, any potential law enforcement case, and could result in a
  quite real miscarriage of justice and/or someone being placed in real
  physical danger. So no, we - as with most internet companies - have a
 very
  strict policy that we do not comment publicly on the reason for global
 bans.
  It's a common sense policy and one that's followed by - and insisted
 upon -
  by almost every reasonable, responsible company that executes this type
 of
  action. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 04:40, 18 January
  2015 (UTC)

 Fair enough, then we should ask the board to oversight the process
 i.e., in the end, being able to take responsability for the global ban
 infliction. I would not take this as far as require a deliberation
 from the BoT for global bans but it my well be a possibility.

 If this is too demanding in terms of time to create a commission to do
 such a task. These people can be bound by any confidentiality terms
 that the legal department consider adeguate.

 Don't want to go through community election? Create an appointed board
 of external, indipendent experts for this.
 (say ask somebody from EFF or similar orgs).

 C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

[Chris Keating]

 My point is that reducing the number of anti WMF people in senior
 positions on commons by one they might have converted some pro WMF people
 in senior positions on commons to anti WMF people, producing more damage
 for themselves than they hoped to create good.


I think if you're looking at this mainly as a way of getting rid of someone
the WMF didn't like, then you have the wrong approach to the issue.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

[Chris Keating]

  My point is that reducing the number of anti WMF people in senior

 positions on commons by one they might have converted some pro WMF people
 in senior positions on commons to anti WMF people, producing more damage
 for themselves than they hoped to create good.


 I think if you're looking at this mainly as a way of getting rid of
 someone
 the WMF didn't like, then you have the wrong approach to the issue.
 ___


 This is the framework suggested by geni, not by me.


Ah - I see it was - thanks.

It is however a view that I've seen expressed in other discussions on this
topic, so it's probably still a point worth making.

Personally I think this step will be quite good for the health of the
community on Commons.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

[Chris Keating]

Thanks for the details Siko!

Going back to the original message in this thread - I would indeed be
concerned if the WMF was shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3
months for no good reason.

However that's not really what's happening. It's more that non-urgent
grantmaking is being postponed; and there is a good rationale for it (one
more about wanting to experiment with grantmaking styles, than about the
gender gap being a special case).

Makes sense to me.

Chris


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
wrote:

 Actually, the experiment is whether such a campaign would drive more
 successful grants, as I understand it. It works from the assumption that
 such grants would have a positive impact. I'm happy to go with that
 assumption though.

 I still strongly disagree with this initiative, but especially the way it
 is executed. I'm glad to hear that all time-sensitive requests can still
 apply during this period - that would probably be quite a few requests.

 I'm still in the dark as to why this has to be a three month program (that
 is a very long period of time to put everything on hold for an experiment)
 and not just 2-4 weeks. Then you could actually commit to quicker
 run-through times in the program, etc. Reducing the time frame would reduce
 the damaging side effect significantly.

 Lodewijk

 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Peter Southwood 
 peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote:

  Did you not see the bit about experimental?
  Cheers,
  Peter
 
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  From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
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  projects for 3 months for no reason
 
  * Siko Bouterse wrote:
  Why the gender gap? Although we’ve committed to supporting and
  increasing gender diversity, so far these kinds of projects haven’t
  emerged organically at any meaningful scale. In the first half of this
  year, IEG and PEG have spent only 9% of funds on projects aiming to
  directly impact this gap and less than ? of our grantee project leaders
  have been women.
  Without taking time to focus on increasing gender diversity in our
  content and contributors, this trend is likely to continue.
 
  What evidence is there that spending more on gender gap will have any
  measurable impact on gender gap? I also note that you say projects
  have not emerged. That sounds like people do not actually have ideas
 how
  to impact gender gap with money. Could you identify a couple of
  projects that would have considerable impact on gender gap but that
  have been refused funding in the past due to a lack of focus on gen-
 der
  gap?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row

[Chris Keating]

As people have said - repeatedly - a bunch of trolls have set up a google
group mailing list that appears to be Wikimedia-l and subscribed lots of
people to it.

If you're subscribed then unsubscribe yourself and report it to Google.
There are instructions in other messages.

However, please *don't* respond to messages from that fake mailing list on
the real one, that just adds confusion and helps the trolls achieve their
aims.


On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Date of the article says 02 Aug 2012.
 Why is this relevant now on this list?

 Aubrey


 On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Toby Dollmann toby.dollm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Why ?
 
  Have you forgotten Section 230 of Communications Decency Act ?
 
  Toby
 
  On 1/11/15, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
   can someone shut this guy up?
   Thanks,
GerardM
  
   On 11 January 2015 at 07:37, Toby Dollmann toby.dollm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
  
 
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9447161/Wikipedia-charity-chairman-resigns-after-pornography-row.html
  
   Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row
  
   The chairman of the charity responsible for promoting Wikipedia in
   Britain has resigned after he was banned from editing the online
   encyclopaedia, following rows about the inclusion of pornography.
  
   By Christopher Williams, Technology Correspondent
   3:55PM BST 02 Aug 2012
  
Ashley van Haeften resigned as chairman of Wikimedia UK today, citing
   concerns the controversy over his ban could cause divisions among
   Wikipedia supporters.
  
   “I have discussed this matter with [Mr van Haeften] this morning,”
   said Jon Davies, the chief executive of the charity, which distributes
   £1m of donations from Wikipedia supporters annually.
  
   “He is keen that there should be no division in the Wikimedia UK
   community over his role as Chair, especially at a time when so many
   great things are being achieved.
  
   “He has therefore resigned as Chair.”
  
   The Telegraph reported this week how Mr van Haeften had been banned
   indefinitely from contributing to the English version of Wikipedia by
   ArbCom, an elected committee of senior editors.
  
  
  
   ArbCom applied the sanction after finding he mounted personal attacks
   on people with concerns about explicit material on Wikipedia,
   including about material he had posted. He was criticised for
   including a “highly inappropriate” link to pornography in the
   biography of a living person.
  
   Wikipedia carries a large quantity of explicit material, despite
   promoting itself as an educational website suitable for
   schoolchildren. Critics such as Larry Sanger, a co-founder of the
   website, and people attacked by Mr van Haeften, have argued for
   filters or age controls to be introduced.
  
   Mr van Haeften, who works as an IT project manager, was also found by
   ArbCom to have violated a series of editing rules, including by using
   multiple accounts to change pages after he had asked for a “clean
   start”.
  
   His resignation follows a call by members of Wikimedia UK for an
   Extraordinary General Meeting to discuss the controversy. They said
   the decision of the charity’s board to keep Mr van Haeften on as
   chairman despite his ban from contributing to Wikipedia “not a
   sufficient response to this situation”.
  
   An EGM could still go ahead, however, as the call was for a vote on a
   resolution “to remove Ashley Van Haeften from the Board of Trustees of
   Wikimedia UK”, not only to strip him of the chairmanship.
  
   “By not resigning as chair immediately after the ArbCom decision was
   announced I am afraid that [Mr van Haeften] made an error which can
   now only be corrected by his resignation from the board altogether,”
   said one Wikimedia UK member.
  
   Mr van Haeften remains on the Wikimedia UK board. A new chairman will
   be elected at a meeting this evening.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

[Chris Keating]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, FRED BAUDER fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

 On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:29:57 +0100
  Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 As this thread demonstrates, what discussions about the massive
 gender imbalance in Wikimedia editorship need is more men discussing why
 it
 might or might not be important.

 /sarcasm


 Radical feminist notions that men should reduce editing or participation
 are counter-productive. The solution is OR not NOT; anyone should be able
 to edit without struggle.


I'm not quite sure what you're aiming at here, but Liam's point was that it
was somewhere between unhelpful and downright harmful to have discussions
about the Wikimedia gender gap conducted entirely between men. (It's a bit
like having a discussion about Wikipedia conducted entirely by people
who've never used the internet.)

I would describe this as common sense rather than radical feminism.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

[Chris Keating]

Hi there,


 That said, it doesn't matter who writes the content on Wikipedia so long
 as it's relevant and factual.



Who is to decide what is relevant and factual (or indeed, the other
editorial judgements we make in writing aricles)? If the only people doing
that are white North American and European men with (or working towards)
masters' degrees*, then their judgements will inevitably reflect their own
backgrounds and perspectives - and other backgrounds and perspectives will
be missing from those judgements.

That does not and will not result in us fulfilling our mission to build and
share the sum of human knowledge.

In my view our consensus-based decision-making model can only work well
when there is enough diversity of contributions in the first place. It is
easy for a small group of similar people to reach a consensus. However,
they are likely to miss important things in doing so.
Regards,

Chris

* This isn't (quite) a description of the status quo but is pretty close
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

[Chris Keating]

 Curious question, by the way: how controversial would you expect this move
 to be domestically? From e.g. a Swedish perspective, the NSA is an
 intelligence agency of a foreign power and the other mentioned
 organizations are either largely uncontroversial and seen in a positive
 light (Amnesty, PEN, HRW) or unknown, but will it affect how the WMF is
 seen in the US?


I'm not American, but the other co-plaintiffs seem to be civil rights /
human rights organisations who are firmly at the left-wing/progressive end
of US politics, some of them probably take the US government to court
fairly often. So being seen in this company might identify the WMF a little
with that part of the US political spectrum.

Equally, the fact that WMF isn't a political organisation and isn't in the
habit of suing the US Government probably adds a lot of weight to the
campaign!

Chris






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

[Chris Keating]

 I find the term Advancement Department has a somewhat Orwellian ring.


It's quite a normal term in the USA. For instance, the Council for
Advancement and Support of Education is the (global, but US-dominated)
professional body for university fundraisers.

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Not all pixels are created equals: introducing brand new Wikimedia France's metrics

[Chris Keating]

I give this project FF out of a possible FF.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Christophe Henner 
christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote:

 They are not free pixels.

 Only real free pixels deserve to be counted.
 Le 1 avr. 2015 23:00, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit :

  As always, every tool is developed thinking about Wikipedia and Commons,
  never all the other sister projects!
  What about those poor pixels?
  Are they different from Commons pixels??!?!!1!
 
  Luckily, today the WMF said otherwise:
  see the Sister projects news here
 
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-04-01/News_and_notes
 
  Aubrey
 
 
  On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info
  wrote:
 
   2015-04-01 22:09 GMT+02:00 Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org:
  
On 15-04-01 03:58 PM, Pierre-Selim wrote:
 This is only the beginning: next step is the measurement of cute
   pixels,
 encyclopedic pixels and amazing pixels.
   
That metric is all wrong, because it presumes that all pixels are
equally valuable.  Surely, you should be also assigning weights to
pixels depending on how much information they carry - background
 pixels
out of the FOV aren't worth as much!
   
Also, some historic pixels may be worth several newer ones.  Pixel
valuation is an art as much as it is a science.
   
  
   Thank you for your valuable input, we will think about it for next
   iterations.
  
  
   
-- Marc
   
Ouais bon, poisson d'avril?  :-)
   
  
   :-)
  
  
  
   
   
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

[Chris Keating]

Congratulations to the new Board members - I am sure you will do a great
job. And commiserations to those who will be leaving the Board - thank you
for all your hard work over many years.

Also it is good to see a much higher turnout in this year's elections than
in 2013 - well done to those involved :)

On the subject of voting systems, though...

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
wrote:


 David Cuenca Tudela skrev den 2015-06-06 09:01:

 However I must say that the results of this election are hilarious. The
 person with the most support votes doesn't win because of oppose votes :D

  Why hilarious? We had a full consensus in the election Committee to go
 for S/N/O voting, it is a kind of standard procedure in the Wikimedia world.


Many people looked at voting systems before the Wikimedia movement existed
and virtually none of them settled on the system we ended up with. Perhaps
this should tell us something!

To my mind the key problems with the present system are:
1) Oppose votes have greater weight than support votes. In this case, Maria
would have needed 136 additional support votes to win, or 46 fewer oppose
votes. In effect an Oppose vote was worth 2.96 times as much as a support
vote for her. As a result, being non-opposed is much more important than
being supported. The penalty for doing anything controversial is
significant.

2) There is nothing in the process to produce any diversity in the result.
Say that there was a 2/3 to 1/3 split in the electorate on some important
issue. The right answer would surely be that you elect 2 people with one
view and 1 with the other. However, in this voting system you would likely
end up electing 3 people from the majority point of view. Because the
Wikimedia movement is much more complex than this it is difficult to
conclude that there was any particular issue like this that would have
affected the result, but still, the point applies. The voting system builds
in homogeneity not diversity.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

[Chris Keating]

I basically agree with the whole of Risker's post but want to expand in
this bit:

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

   There are not very many systems, though,
 that are specifically designed to give multiple winners when one of the
 conditions is that they *not* be running on a shared ticket.


One of them that is well-adapted to our circumstances is the Single
Transferable Vote system.

As in Schulze, voters put candidates in order of preference. However, the
STV system is designed to produce diversity of opinion among an election
for several people (it was originally designed as a proportional system for
public elections in circumstances where there weren't party lists).

There are also a couple of systems which try to combine the theoretical
advantages of Schulze with the practical advantages of STV and they should
be looked at as well, but STV has the advantage that it is computationally
simple (you can run an election with pen and paper, unlike Schulze or
anything related to it; there are a number of software packages that
perform counts for you; and it must be pretty easy to code as well...)

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Chris Keating]

I can definitely understand your frustration, Romaine.

However, if there is a strong operational reason why the Fundraising team
can't move the activity they have planned for Italy in September, then I
can't really see what resolution there can be except for sharing the banner
space.

Normally though one would expect repeated banner impressions to have
diminishing returns, rather than increasing returns - so I would expect the
impact on Wiki Loves Monuments to be a fair bit less than what you make out.

One thing I don't understand though - I thought fundraising banners were
set to display ~once per person these days, rather than actually site-wide
as they used to - is it not possible to have the (less intrusive) WLM
banner displaying for the people who aren't getting the fundraising
messages?

Thanks,

Chris








On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi all,

 Sad news.
 The title of this thread seems a bit hard, but that is practically the
 situation as it looks now.

 *Background*
 Wiki Loves Monuments is the yearly photo contest since 2010, organised by
 many local Wikipedia communities and local chapters. For this contest a
 banner is shown on top of Wikipedia pages in the specific countries to
 attract attention from the public to participate in enriching Wikipedia
 with photos of the local cultural heritage.

 Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner. When there is
 no banner, the uploads and results drop dramatically, as possible
 participants are not informed and can't easily find the contest site. Also
 participants need time to go on location to take photos and see the banner
 above Wikipedia afterwards to find their way back.



 *What is the situation?*
 * The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner in Italy during
 the month September.
 * The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is organising the contest
 in Italy and needs a banner as well.

 As there can be shown only one banner at the time, there have been talks
 about these conflicting banners. Result: Wiki Loves Monuments get only
 37,5% of the time, the fundraising banner 62,5% of the time.

 Now you maybe think that 37,5% of the time is still large, but the
 appearances are deceptive because of the different ways the banner is used,
 and because the differences in numbers of upload throughout the month
 September. Also the banner is not shown at all during two full weeks,
 important weeks to attract participants. In the end I estimate, based on
 the usage and issues of previous years, etc, that only 10-15% of the
 uploads are made in comparison what normally would have been expected.

 This is what I would call a devastating effect.

 And this is purely because of bad planning at WMF:
 * They haven't checked which countries participated continuously the past
 years.
 * They haven't informed which countries are likely to participate.
 * And they say they can't move the fundraising banner to another month, but
 it is still a mystery why that isn't possible.

 This same issue was originally the case in two countries, but somehow it
 was possible to move it for the second country.

 This is really sad for Italy. Extra sad because of the difficult copyright
 situation in Italy, what requires the local team already to do much much
 much more work than in most other countries, just to have a normal contest.
 The Italian team does a great job this year.


 *My conclusion*
 The community is working very hard on improving and expanding the content
 of Wikipedia by organising Wiki Loves Monuments. I always thought that this
 was the number one priority of the whole Wikimedia movement. Did I made a
 wrong assumption somehow?

 But when it actually matters, the community project bears the bunt. This is
 sad, very sad.


 Please all, support the Italian team, they do a great job and deserve a
 successful contest.

 Greetings,

 Romaine



 PS: I am one of the international organisers of Wiki Loves Monuments this
 year, but this e-mail is written on my personal account only.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Chris Keating]

Hi Romaine,

 And the outcome is ridiculous. This is not a compromise. The Italian WLM
 team has been crashed under the weight and preponderance of the Wikimedia
 Foundation.

Well - it *is* a compromise. It isn't what you want and I think I
understand your reasons for thinking it will have a very big impact. I know
from plenty of past experience of being a volunteer disagreeing with WMF
staff  how frustrating this is (though actually I think the impact on WLM
will be less than you expect in this case).

But it is plainly not the case that the WMF has just blundered ahead with
what it was going to do anyway. And even if WMF were not involved at all
and there were some other method of allocating banner space, if Autumn has
the peak fundraising potential and is when WLM happens, there will always
be some kind of clash somewhere, and someone or other will not get what
they want. No number of emotive emails will change that.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

[Chris Keating]

Really interesting - thanks for sharing!

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Denny Vrandečić 
wrote:

> Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris):
>
>
> http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/
>
> "the vast majority of negative behavior ... did not originate from the
> persistently negative online citizens; in fact, 87 percent of online
> toxicity came from the neutral and positive citizens just having a bad day
> here or there."
>
> "... incidences of homophobia, sexism and racism ... have fallen to a
> combined 2 percent of all games. Verbal abuse has dropped by more than 40
> percent, and 91.6 percent of negative players change their act and never
> commit another offense after just one reported penalty."
>
> I have plenty of ideas how to apply this to Wikipedia, but I am sure Dario
> and his team as well :) - and some opportunity for the communities to use
> such results.
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

[Chris Keating]

Since October 27th there have been 3 threads, all started by the same
person, with a total of 5 posts .

None of which said anything at all confidential. :)

Chris

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Laurentius 
wrote:

> At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
> If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
> to contact you?
>
> Laurentius
>
> Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
> > launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
> > place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
> > groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to
> > other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide
> > events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across
> > our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide
> > activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts,
> > or other communications from affiliates.
> >
> > Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
> > mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to
> > request additional spots if needed.
> >
> > Please find a bit more information on Meta:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
> > and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carlos
>
>
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