Re: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-05 Thread
On 5 August 2014 11:33, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi all. WMF Engineering is currently composed of individual teams as documented at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering . These teams look after the software that faces us everyday, and often work together. Could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-05 Thread
On 05/08/2014, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: ... We have a reply: https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside/status/496644233580003328 @jayvdb @guardian @Wikipedia @wikisignpost We won't know unless Wikipedia chooses to make that information public Unless I'm missing something, this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread
On 11 August 2014 03:19, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Lila, I hope you are aware of the issues being described in this thread. Would you please state your views on this situation? Pine +1 It would be great to hear from Lila on the current decisions being taken by her employees. The

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 Feedback

2014-08-11 Thread
I thought a thread on Wikimedia-l might be useful for folks to share feedback and their experiences, good or bad. I understand there is a survey which we should remember to complete, and there has been a lot of chat on Facebook, but I have a natural aversion to that space. :-) My tuppence worth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A bunch of nobodies

2014-08-14 Thread
Let's not encourage using meta like it was Facebook. However, meh, looking at the important names listing themselves, I can't get very excited about pursuing the point. I'd rather not get even more black listed than I already am. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flogging dead horses (was Re: Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-17 Thread
What is the benefit of creating yet another thread on this? Fae On 18 August 2014 04:13, Wiki Billinghurst billinghurstw...@gmail.com wrote: Are we there yet? This subject has been so done to death, that the corpse of the dead horse that has been flogged is going to rise as a zombie and eat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

2014-08-21 Thread
The page is already overly long and in places impenetrable, and I speak as a systems analyst with Agile development experience. A shift to plain English might be useful and more care to avoid dropping in fringe jargon like Wiki markup is not Turing complete. On 22 Aug 2014 01:39, svetlana

[Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-22 Thread
-- From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:49:45 +0100 Subject: Request for disclosure of all WMF records relating to Fae To: Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org Cc: legal le...@wikimedia.org, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org Dear Lila, The Wikimedia Foundation keeps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-08-22 Thread
To avoid tangents, here is my email trimmed to the 2 key points with no background: Can someone recommend if there is a WMF policy on transparency that applies? Does the law in the USA give rights of access to records or reports the WMF may keep on volunteers? Fae

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-28 Thread
On 28 August 2014 12:56, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Gerard, and would add that a good portion of the new readers and missing female editors do not own or operate a desktop and are only available on mobile and tablet, so this is not only where the new readers are, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-08-29 Thread
On 30/08/2014, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 8/28/14, 2:55 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: You can start by asking around in your own circle of aquaintance, and I'll bet that such research will make you quickly realize that hard stats will be very hard to discover, since in my circle, most of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-01 Thread
On 01/09/2014, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: ... metadata. It's not an argument against MV, it's an argument for getting rid of the horrid way we handle File: pages with ad-hoc workarounds. The *correct* solution is to fix the damn image pages, not to remove MV. ... So, can you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

2014-09-06 Thread
On 06/09/2014, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: Be like 4chan! Everyone loves 4chan. No. This is so wrong it hurts. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-06 Thread
On 6 September 2014 07:11, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, We includes anyone who wants to be involved and does not exclude him or herself by his or her own actions or choices. Thanks, GerardM Incorrect. Erik's email includes phrases like We're not pushing an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

2014-09-06 Thread
Refer to the signature Erik used. The rationale that employees when acting as employees somehow are to be wearing a hat of an unpaid volunteer was worn out when superprotect was invented. On 6 Sep 2014 14:22, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Fæ fae

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access by Wikimedia volunteers to WMF records about them

2014-09-10 Thread
is provided to their volunteers. There appears to have been no attempt to review what records and reports the WMF holds on me, the answer was generic. Should WMF Legal say they are happy for me to do so, I will be happy to publish their reply in full. Thanks, Fae On 22/08/2014, Fæ fae

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 expenses

2014-09-29 Thread
expenses were paid more promptly. Thanks, Fae -- Forwarded message -- From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com Date: 25 September 2014 09:08 Subject: Wikimania expenses To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi, Checking my bank account I can't find any payment of my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-09-29 Thread
On 29 September 2014 14:45, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I also would like to know the answer to Itzik question: Can you elaborate more on how the current jury was elected and by who? Richard Symonds Stuart Prior Claudia Garad Esteban Zarate Daniel Bryant Finne Boonen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-09-30 Thread
On 30 September 2014 14:12, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I'm seriously having doubts why this is becoming such a drama for some people. There's a clear process (the Wikimania committee selects a jury, which selects a winning bid to be confirmed by the WMF) and they asked for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-10-10 Thread
The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question how the current jury was elected and by who, is that the Wikimania jury is not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment by the WMF to change or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-10-10 Thread
October 2014 11:48, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question how the current jury was elected and by who, is that the Wikimania jury is not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and presumably undefined criteria. Sadly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-10-10 Thread
On 10 October 2014 14:58, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: If you're interested in discussing the future of Wikimania, perhaps it makes sense to do that on the dedicated list? Just a wild thought. Thanks for the thought. Itzik's general question was posted to Wikimedia-l, so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding

2014-10-10 Thread
Hi Risker, You seem to have missed the point, this is not a question of bad faith in any person. Itzik's question exposed failure in making a key procedure in how our movement manages funding properly transparent. Please do not derail the issue into one of personalities. There is no doubt that

[Wikimedia-l] Vandalism on photographs of living people

2014-10-17 Thread
Due to recent vandalism a new report on Commons for page patrollers has been started at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:F%C3%A6/BLP_overwrites. This page shows images actively used on English Wikipedia biography articles, where a new upload has overwritten the original by a newbie*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Vandalism on photographs of living people

2014-10-17 Thread
On 17 October 2014 15:02, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks very much for developing this Fae, it's a great idea. Risker/Anne On 17 October 2014 03:37, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Due to recent vandalism a new report on Commons for page patrollers has been started at https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Vandalism on photographs of living people

2014-10-18 Thread
On 18 October 2014 07:28, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se wrote: Very nice. If this bug is fixed, the problem would be solved for all images, not just BLPs: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63518 Perhaps ths indicates that the importance for that bug should be raised? These

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Vandalism on photographs of living people

2014-10-20 Thread
be sensible to include or adapt. Fae On 17 October 2014 08:37, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Due to recent vandalism a new report on Commons for page patrollers has been started at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:F%C3%A6/BLP_overwrites. This page shows images actively used on English

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC funds allocation recommendation is up

2014-11-23 Thread
Having carefully read through some of the FDC rationales I thought they were appropriately strategic and made it pretty obvious exactly what those chapters that did not get what they were hoping for, need to change in order to bid more successfully. I found them encouraging and a good

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread
employees. Could you please confirm that neither you, nor your employees, are manipulating this public list to your political advantage. Thanks, Fae -- Forwarded message -- From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com Date: 18 November 2014 at 19:24 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Welcome ro D'Arcy Myers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread
found yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of appeals for Wikimedia-related lists nor a bullhorn for your personal grievances. Austin On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Darcy, I am concerned at what appears to be deliberate suppression

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-11-30 Thread
On 30 November 2014 at 07:35, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: ... Do not be daft. The Wikimedia Foundation centralised its fundraising. It said that it would do a better job. Seen from a central periphery model, it probably does, However seen from the Netherlands it is rather

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

2014-12-05 Thread
On 5 December 2014 at 10:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, It is NOT the chapter that has to change its ways. Thanks, GerardM Actually, under Sue Gardner, the offer was that if the chapter did change its ways, it would become a payment processor again. As a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

2014-12-05 Thread
On 5 December 2014 at 14:12, mathias.dam...@laposte.net wrote: - Mail original - De: Fæ fae...@gmail.com Actually, under Sue Gardner, the offer was that if the chapter did change its ways, it would become a payment processor again. As a trustee at that time, who was sent all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner interfering with Google results

2014-12-07 Thread
On 7 December 2014 at 11:08, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: ... The devs have been aware since December 4, based on the date https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76743 was opened. Wow, 8 million returns on Google. Er, Lila, someone, how about making a decision to pause using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread
On 11 December 2014 at 16:40, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: ... The first issue here is one of demotivating contributors. I took a photo of an object I owned, and gave it away to be used in Wikipedia. The only interaction I ever get on Commons about my photos is a notification

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread
On 12 December 2014 at 11:29, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: ... I commented in two chocolate 'packaging' related deletion requests today, before this thread started, my opinion being to keep. Why don't you join me in keeping these images in time for Christmas by making positive comments

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread
2014-12-12 12:37 GMT+00:00 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: ... sensible repository to work with. The inanity with Israeli parliamentary works was the key point in a talk on the subject at Wikimania. I was in the front front row at that Wikimania presentation, and happen to be good friends with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread
I cannot see the point of raising questions about how Commons works here rather than on Commons. All of these points have been raised before and discussed on the village pump. Other threads on this list were argued to be about multiple projects, this is not. Fae On 13 Dec 2014 16:06, MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread
On 13 Dec 2014 16:41, Bruentrup claus.bruent...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because on Commons village pump, non-regulars, interacting politely and civilly, are harassed, abused and also blocked without cause. Perhaps because the discussion system at Commons is broken, and participation there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email

2014-12-23 Thread
On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Gendergap-l] Another Admin falls +1

2014-12-24 Thread
Please ignore. This is yet more malicious and disruptive Job Jobbing of Russavia, and for all I know of shlomif too. Russavia remains unsubscribed from this list for the time being. Fae On 24 December 2014 at 12:47, Russavia r...@gma.main-hosting.eu shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Fwd:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email

2014-12-29 Thread
read more about this case? Vince 2014-12-23 8:56 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread
Hi Romaine, is there a link to an on-wiki page that states this. Based on your email, it is unfortunate that rather than stating that PEG/IEGs would be prioritized to gendergap proposals for a time, the choice appears to be to reject everything else. I am not against positive discrimination

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread
Ethically, I would rather defer a proposal, such as one for Wiki Loves Pride or a more general diversity event, until the restriction is lifted. There is too much pointless political flim flam already in our Wikimedia community without masking events as GenderGap for the sake of faking metrics.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 12:47, Philip Kopetzky wrote: > > Please don't generalise frustration with your conduct on this list. You're > the only one telling people to shut up here. I have told nobody to shut up. This is a continuation of the use of character assignation to shut up points of view

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 10:24, Fæ wrote: > > I agree that the official announcement on Commons is worse than unfortunate. > > The announcement by the Diversity Working Group on a sub-page of the > VP of their recommendation to permit NC and ND license restrictions on > Co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread
ommendation might fix. Thanks, Fae > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 11:25, Fæ wrote: > > > I agree that the official announcement on Commons is worse than > > unfortunate. > > > > The announcement by the Diversity Working Group on a sub-page of the > > VP of their recomm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread
I agree that the official announcement on Commons is worse than unfortunate. The announcement by the Diversity Working Group on a sub-page of the VP of their recommendation to permit NC and ND license restrictions on Commons, comes after no attempt in advance to discuss the recommendation or its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-20 Thread
Many Wikimedians have left detailed and logical feedback on the Meta talk pages, as per the request for feedback by Nicole Ebber. No doubt there is no requirement to keep on making this same feedback in other places, especially where not part of the planned feedback process, or where the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-17 Thread
It astonishing that the WMF and affiliates are supporting a conference in Tunis. The country is not safe for LGBT+ people, including tourists, despite what promotional holiday and travel websites imply. I urge anyone who is LGBT+ and booked to go to this conference, including WMF employees,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki loves SDGs

2019-09-18 Thread
ch "Zwarte Piet" will no > longer be black because of the foreign imposition of what is the > discriminatory practice "blackface" in the USA. But I digress. We should > engage all over the world particularly when the SDG are topical because > what global effect will it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread
If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from all the demonstrable facts, perhaps the community should now respond with a completely unambiguous RFC on meta so there can be no doubt? Something along the lines of: "The WMF have employed Wolff Olins for rebranding advice, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-20 Thread
Because # of flights is not a useful metric for assessing environmental > impact. > > Seddon > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 3:23 PM Fæ wrote: > > > Those publications are where my numbers came from. There is no useful > > transparency to explain how many actual flights are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread
That's helpful. Volunteers are repeatedly shut down asking questions on this list and on wiki project noticeboards, by being told they should ask questions on these more obscure and hard to find meta talk pages. So it's good to know that when we are redirected this way, it's fair to say that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-22 Thread
A screenshot has been uploaded to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF_global_climate_strike_banner_2019.png. Unfortunately, though web.archive.org has snapshots of the website, these do not appear to render the banner as it displayed in a browser on the day. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com

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