Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution to pause Movement Brand Project through March 2021

2020-09-30 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks for hearing the voices, María and members of the board.

Defining common goals is the best practice for reaching to the best solution.

Sincerely,

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of María 
Sefidari 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:47 PM
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution to pause Movement Brand Project through March 
2021

Hi everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, following the recommendation of
staff, has resolved to pause the Movement Brand Project until the next
calendar year.[1] We recognize that much of the Wikimedia movement’s
activities, events, and key collaborations have been put on hold or
restructured due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and we have received formal
requests to pause Movement Brand Project activities to reflect this
need.[2]

The Board remains persuaded that there is potential value in making change
to our branding system in service of our goals of engaging more people in
our mission. However, we also know that change moves at the speed of trust.
We have asked staff to meaningfully engage with community concerns and
address the request for equitable decision-making within the process. We
also ask members of the community to use this pause to consider how equity
may ask us to let go of some aspects of our past, in order to create space
for what could be. Making these decisions together, with so many passionate
perspectives, will be challenging, but building this capacity is essential
for how we grow together as a thriving global movement.

In the meantime, we will establish a small ad-hoc Board committee to liaise
with staff, and develop a process of collaboration and decision-making
appropriate for the Movement’s brand. This committee will constitute
Trustees James Heilman, Raju Narisetti, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov. We
hope and intend for this committee to include a small number of community
representatives from affiliates, open letter signatories, and emerging
communities, and Foundation staff to be designated by the Executive
Director. We’ll update you with more details on the committee soon.

In 2021, using insights and recommendations gleaned through the ad-hoc
committee, the Brand Project team will restart collaboration and
communicate next steps accordingly. This resolution was ratified on
September 24, 2020.

Kind regards,

María Sefidari

[1]
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Pause_of_Brand_Development_Work

[2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements coming to Vector

2020-08-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Indeed! The FINAL stage of the changes is deeply conservative and not a change 
at all. It's a small lifting, but not a real change. We are now 10 years old, 
and with the new changes we will be 8 years old in a year, instead of being 11 
years old.

From: Olga Vasileva 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 1:53 PM
To: Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga 
Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements 
coming to Vector

Hi Vira, Ala'a, and Galder,

Thanks for your feedback - we’re really glad you’re enjoying the changes we’ve 
made so far.  I wanted to point out that this is not all! The deployed changes 
are a part of a larger series of improvements that we will be rolling out 
progressively over the next 1+ years. To see a list of the other features we 
are planning on working on, please check out our project page[1]. In addition, 
we believe that even after the project is complete, there will still be work to 
do. We’d like to view this project as a new baseline on which we can build new 
functionality that can improve both reading and editing in the future.

Thanks again!

- Olga

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:06 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga 
mailto:galder...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for bringing this topic!
At euwiki it has been some weeks we have experienced the new vector style, and 
it has some great things: you can be sure about how width images will take for 
any reader, you can create better galleries or even decide where to insert an 
image to avoid sandwiching.

BUT...

I think that the changes (even when finishing) will be too short on what we 
need (a real face change!) but it will annoy in the same amount to those who 
don't want any change at all. So, we are losing an opportunity to go on with 
big changes.

Best

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l 
mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>>
 on behalf of Ala'a Najjar mailto:ala201...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:06 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
Cc: ovasil...@wikimedia.org<mailto:ovasil...@wikimedia.org> 
mailto:ovasil...@wikimedia.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements 
coming to Vector

Thanks for bring our attention to this Desktop Improvements.
I opened section about this on Arabic Wikipedia village pump 
https://w.wiki/a9S, so users can try it, and maybe there feedback can help 
Readers Web team.

Best,
Alaa
https://w.wiki/JNQ

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l 
mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>>
 On Behalf Of Vira Motorko
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:01 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List‏ 
mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements 
coming to Vector

Hi all,

I don't see any messages about the Desktop Improvements to wikimedia-l, so I've 
decided to forward one from wikitech-l.

If I understand correctly, Desktop Improvements are changes to the desktop 
version of the Vector skin, which are to be built throughout the next year, 
features being added one by one. Several wikis already enjoy them by default, 
and users of other wikis can find a respective tick in their preferences to 
make new Vector visible.

Current features are said to not be permanent anyway but wouldn't it be good 
for more people to see them while they are still work in progress?

See email text and links below.
*--*
*Vira Motorko // Віра Моторко*
mobile: +380667740499 | facebook: vira.motorko 
<https://www.facebook.com/vira.motorko> | wikipedia: Ата 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ата>

-- Forwarded message -
Від: Olga Vasileva mailto:ovasil...@wikimedia.org>>
Date: ср, 5 серп. 2020 о 15:33
Subject: [Wikitech-l] First desktop improvements features now available on 
early adopter wikis


Hi all,

We’re happy to announce that the first two of many changes focused on improving 
the desktop experience of the Vector skin [1] have been released as a user 
preference to all projects and as default on a set of early adopter wikis: 
Basque, Farsi, French, and Hebrew Wikipedias, French Wiktionary, and Portuguese 
Wikiversity.

Since its introduction in 2009, the Vector skin has changed little, while the 
needs of our readers and editors have shifted significantly, as have their 
expectations for a quality reading experience that focuses on the content 
itself. Over the next year, the readers web team [2] will be researching and 
building out improvements to the desktop experience based on research and 
existing tools built by our communities.

Our goal is to create a more welcoming reading and editing experience - 
something that feels familiar yet makes it easier and quicker to read, edit, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements coming to Vector

2020-08-23 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks for bringing this topic!
At euwiki it has been some weeks we have experienced the new vector style, and 
it has some great things: you can be sure about how width images will take for 
any reader, you can create better galleries or even decide where to insert an 
image to avoid sandwiching.

BUT...

I think that the changes (even when finishing) will be too short on what we 
need (a real face change!) but it will annoy in the same amount to those who 
don't want any change at all. So, we are losing an opportunity to go on with 
big changes.

Best

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Ala'a 
Najjar 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:06 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Cc: ovasil...@wikimedia.org 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements 
coming to Vector

Thanks for bring our attention to this Desktop Improvements.
I opened section about this on Arabic Wikipedia village pump 
https://w.wiki/a9S, so users can try it, and maybe there feedback can help 
Readers Web team.

Best,
Alaa
https://w.wiki/JNQ

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l  On Behalf Of Vira 
Motorko
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:01 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List‏ 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop Improvements 
coming to Vector

Hi all,

I don't see any messages about the Desktop Improvements to wikimedia-l, so I've 
decided to forward one from wikitech-l.

If I understand correctly, Desktop Improvements are changes to the desktop 
version of the Vector skin, which are to be built throughout the next year, 
features being added one by one. Several wikis already enjoy them by default, 
and users of other wikis can find a respective tick in their preferences to 
make new Vector visible.

Current features are said to not be permanent anyway but wouldn't it be good 
for more people to see them while they are still work in progress?

See email text and links below.
*--*
*Vira Motorko // Віра Моторко*
mobile: +380667740499 | facebook: vira.motorko 
 | wikipedia: Ата 


-- Forwarded message -
Від: Olga Vasileva 
Date: ср, 5 серп. 2020 о 15:33
Subject: [Wikitech-l] First desktop improvements features now available on 
early adopter wikis


Hi all,

We’re happy to announce that the first two of many changes focused on improving 
the desktop experience of the Vector skin [1] have been released as a user 
preference to all projects and as default on a set of early adopter wikis: 
Basque, Farsi, French, and Hebrew Wikipedias, French Wiktionary, and Portuguese 
Wikiversity.

Since its introduction in 2009, the Vector skin has changed little, while the 
needs of our readers and editors have shifted significantly, as have their 
expectations for a quality reading experience that focuses on the content 
itself. Over the next year, the readers web team [2] will be researching and 
building out improvements to the desktop experience based on research and 
existing tools built by our communities.

Our goal is to create a more welcoming reading and editing experience - 
something that feels familiar yet makes it easier and quicker to read, edit, 
and perform common functionality.

Our first change, a collapsible sidebar, allows users to collapse the lengthy 
menu on the left side of the page. We believe this change improves usability by 
allowing people to focus on the content itself - on reading, editing, or 
moderating.

Our second change introduces a maximum line width to our content on pages such 
as article pages and discussion pages. Studies have shown that limiting the 
width can lead to better retention of content, as well as a decrease in eye 
strain

You can opt into these features by unchecking “legacy vector” from the 
appearance tab of your user preferences.

We’d also like to note that these are the first of a series of changes and, as 
such, their visual characteristics are not permanent. Also - there might be 
bugs. If you notice an issue or would like to learn more about the project 
itself - please head to our project page [3].

Thank you!

Olga

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Web/Team
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements
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[Wikimedia-l] The Government of Navarre will fund BWUG

2020-07-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear all,
It is a real pleasure to announce the agreement reached between Basque 
Wikimedians User Group and the Government of Navarre to finance projects for 
the knowledge of Wikimedia platforms in that region.

The agreement, of an initial duration of 6 months and endowed with 25,000€, 
will serve to initiate work related to local knowledge, GLAM and to multiply 
the educational program that we have already been carrying out.

You can read more about this agreement in our blog: 
http://wikimedia.eus/2020/07/wikipedian-euskarazko-eduki-digitalak-sortu-zabaldu-eta-kontsumitzea-sustatuko-du-nafarroako-gobernuak/

And you can learn more about it in Spanish in the Governments website: 
https://www.navarra.es/es/noticias/2020/07/23/el-gobierno-de-navarra-fomentara-la-creacion-difusion-y-consumo-de-contenidos-digitales-en-euskera-en-wikipedia

Sincerely

Galder
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[Wikimedia-l] Announcing Txikipedia APP

2020-07-22 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear all,
Today we are glad to announce the launching of the Txikipedia APP for Android 
and iOS. This tool will allow children to read content created for them at 
Txikipedia, the Basque language encyclopedia for children, and will make easier 
to discover content.

You can download it at Play Store 
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ewke.txikipedia=ES) and 
at App Store.

Thanks

Galder


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Excited to see even how this mind-blowing idea comes to live!

Congratulations

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Isaac 
Olatunde 
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:01 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia 
project: Abstract Wikipedia

Wow! This is a great news.

Thanks for sharing Katherine.

With best wishes

Isaac.

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, 17:39 Denny Vrandečić,  wrote:

> Katherine, thank you for the warm welcome and your kind words!
>
> I am very happy to be given the opportunity to start this new project, and
> deeply honored by the trust and confidence of the Board and the Foundation.
>
> Thanks to the many who have listened to me talking about this project in
> the last few years, read my papers and plans, commented on them,
> scrutinized them, and offered encouragement, criticism, and advice. Thanks
> to everyone who expressed their support and raised their concerns on the
> proposal page on Meta [1]. It is thanks to you that the Board was confident
> enough to make this decision.
>
> There is a lot of work in front of us, and I will continue to rely on your
> guidance and collective wisdom. We will need to foster a new community.
> Just as with Wikidata, I hope that some of you will become active in the
> new community, and I also want to make sure that we will be welcoming to
> new contributors. We want to extend and grow the Wikimedia movement not
> only with new functionalities, but also with new people.
>
> Settling in this new position will take quite a bit of my attention in the
> next few weeks, so please forgive me if I may be slow with answering your
> questions between now and then. One of the first things we’ll do is to set
> up new communication channels. We will continue discussing the project and
> planning on Meta [2] for now and also welcome you to the new, dedicated
> mailing list [3].
>
> One of our first tasks together will be to find a name for the project. A
> first set of proposals have already been made [4], and I invite you all to
> come up with more ideas. We will start that off in July or August. Did I
> mention that you can join us on Meta [2] to discuss proposals for names,
> the project itself, and much more?
>
> Again, thank you all! I am super excited about figuring this thing out with
> you, and am looking forward to coming back to Wikimedia full-time.
>
> Stay safe,
> Denny
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abstract_Wikipedia
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Abstract_Wikipedia
> [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Name
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:24 AM Brion Vibber  wrote:
>
> > I'm extremely excited about this project!
> >
> > Not only will this be directly useful on its own (and a fascinating
> project
> > in its own right!), but it will help our volunteer editors to ramp up
> good
> > base material to work with on the "prose" Wikipedias we already know and
> > love.
> >
> > The idea is really to make the structured data we've all been putting
> into
> > Wikidata available in a human-readable form at a big scale, that's still
> > able to be shaped and made into something real and readable by human
> > editors. By moving around where in the chain the data gets expressed as
> > human language, we hope to make something that's just as editable but
> much
> > more maintainable in the future and across multiple languages.
> >
> > -- brion
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:04 AM Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > (A translatable version of this announcement can be found on Meta [1])
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia [1], a new project that
> > has
> > > been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees.
> > > Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic
> > > content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more
> > > readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach
> that
> > > aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase
> > the
> > > sustainability of our movement through expanding access to
> participation,
> > > improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate
> in
> > > free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to
> > > create something new.
> > >
> > > This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia
> was
> > > submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May of 2020 [2]
> > after
> > > years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and
> lively
> > > discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and
> the
> > > creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers,
> and
> > > information that is available in one language may not make it to 

[Wikimedia-l] Announcing WikiBizi Basque Country, a summer proposal for COVID-19 times

2020-06-18 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Basque Wikimedians User Group (BWUG) is proud to announce the creation of 
WikiBizi1, a project created as a summer proposal for COVID-19 times. It will 
gather an open travel guide of the Basque Country, three photo-contests 
superseding our current WikiLoves__ contests and GLAM collaborations. 
The main project page is here: https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBizi.

1Bizi means both life and live: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bizi#Basque

== An open travel guide ==
This will be a very special summer: without mass-tourism, without long 
travelling and without festivals, many people is engaging in short excursions. 
BWUG thought that this could be a great opportunity to start working in an open 
travel guide, but creating an instance of Wikivoyage would be out of scope. So 
we have created an open travel guide at Wikibooks: 
https://eu.wikibooks.org/wiki/Euskal_Herriko_bidaia-gida. Every municipality 
has been linked to Wikipedia 
(https://eu.wikibooks.org/wiki/Euskal_Herriko_bidaia-gida/Herriz_herri), and we 
have agreed with Berria newspaper (the only newspaper in Basque, which is 
published under cc-by-sa license) to take all their travel routes and upload 
them to Wikibooks 
(https://eu.wikibooks.org/wiki/Euskal_Herriko_bidaia-gida/Ibilbideak), so 
people can collaborate with images, corrections or even link to other routes. 
There's a button in every route so you can easily upload images from your 
experience directly into Commons: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Euskal_Herriko_Bidaia_Gida.

== Three-in-one photo contests ==
WikiLovesMonuments, Earth and Folk are dead! Long live to WikiBizi! We will run 
this three contests from July 1st to September 30th, so people have more time 
to take and upload photos. We will have three categories: Monuments 
(https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBizi/Ondarea), Nature (open 
concept: https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBizi/Natura) and Culture 
(so people can upload old photos from their home fiestas: 
https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBizi/Kultura). Each photo contest 
will have prizes and its own campaign.

== GLAM collaboration ==
Summer is for museums. Most museums here have started opening in the last week, 
and we want to help them and collaborate with them. We have written to all the 
museums in the Basque Country and some of them are answering. From the simplest 
collaboration (adding a line and a link to the travel guide) to a full day 
visit and collaboration to free some of their collection with wikimedians, we 
hope to have some GLAM activity during this summer. And who knows, may this be 
the beginning of a beatiful friendship. We have created a page for them: 
https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBizi/Museoak.

== WikiTakes ==
When wikimedians visit a place like a swarm, they tend to document everything. 
This is WikiTakes, a proposal we learnt from Wikimedia Spain 
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wiki_Takes_by_Wikimedia_Espa%C3%B1a).
 We will try to adopt this kind of events this summer, and take villages or 
routes together. Of course, is about living a place showing that our towns are 
alive. That's why they won't be called WikiTakes but WikiBizi.

_

Best,

Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
It has been deleted. They TL has some RTs done in the previous days.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Gereon 
Kalkuhl 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:47 PM
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

The Twitter link does not work.

Am 24.04.2020 um 15:16 schrieb Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga:
> Mmm... again?
> https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/1253670025426202624
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
> Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:26 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism
>
> The concept "apolitical" does not exist if there is a goal.
>
> Nevertheless, for the future, a link to the article about "Earth" in all the 
> languages Wikimedia has would be the best solution.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Galder
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Yair 
> Rand 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:27 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism
>
> This would not have happened had there been any oversight (community or
> otherwise), and it could have been pulled down quickly enough had there
> been any community members with the ability to edit the site. Perhaps it's
> time to reconsider how the WMF corporate site operates.
>
> I appreciate that the WMF is committed doing more thorough due diligence in
> the future. It's very important to do so. There's a very good reason why
> community consultation is required when dealing with any Collaborative
> Advocacy, but given that even existing requirements weren't followed, I'm
> not very optimistic that this new commitment holds weight.
>
> Also importantly, the Foundation's Policy and Political Association
> Guideline, which was written by WMF Legal in the aftermath of SOPA to iron
> out clear boundaries on activism, explicitly rules out any political
> activism relating to environmental issues, stating:
>> Policy and political associations should protect and advance Wikimedia’s
> mission “to empower and engage people around the world to collect and
> develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain,
> and to disseminate it effectively and globally.” Accordingly, we will not
> support causes unrelated to or inconsistent with that mission. For example,
> no support should be given to: environmental issues; [...]"
>
> The WMF just inadvertently threw its weight behind dozens of controversial
> causes that have nothing to do with our mission. I hope that the WMF will
> manage to operate more appropriately in the future.
>
> --Yair Rand
>
> ‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 24 באפר׳ 2020 ב-1:18 מאת ‪Gregory Varnum‬‏ <‪
> gvar...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am responding on behalf of the Foundation in my capacity handling
>> movement communications, including managing any campaigns on
>> wikimediafoundation.org.
>>
>> As others from the Foundation have stated on this mailing list in the
>> past, from time to time the Wikimedia Foundation engages in public policy
>> matters which are aligned with the advancement of the Wikimedia mission or
>> our values as an organization.
>>
>> Having said that, we agree with some of the criticisms you have raised. We
>> had understood the Earth Day Live campaign to be both global and
>> apolitical. However, we agree that the final campaign was both more
>> US-centric and more political than we had understood in advance. The banner
>> is no longer running, and in the future we will do more thorough due
>> diligence.
>>
>> We remain strongly committed to climate sustainability as a value of the
>> Wikimedia Foundation. We will continue to advocate on behalf of it and
>> other values that uplift and advance free knowledge globally.
>>
>> I hope you all had a productive and safe Earth Day, and wish you all
>> continued health and safety.
>>
>> Yours,
>> -greg
>>
>> ---
>> Gregory Varnum
>> Communications Strategist
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>> gvar...@wikimedia.org
>> Pronouns: He/Him/His
>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:07 AM, RhinosF1 -  wrote:
>>>
>>> Should this be posted on wiki for others to sign?
>>>
>>> Samuel
>>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 07:51, Fæ  wrote:
>>>
>>>> OPEN LETTER
>>>>
>>>> Dear Katherine Maher,
>>>>
>>>> The WMF home website landing page (https://wikimediafoundation.org)
>>>> yester

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Mmm... again?
https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/1253670025426202624

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Galder 
Gonzalez Larrañaga 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:26 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

The concept "apolitical" does not exist if there is a goal.

Nevertheless, for the future, a link to the article about "Earth" in all the 
languages Wikimedia has would be the best solution.

Cheers,

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Yair 
Rand 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:27 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

This would not have happened had there been any oversight (community or
otherwise), and it could have been pulled down quickly enough had there
been any community members with the ability to edit the site. Perhaps it's
time to reconsider how the WMF corporate site operates.

I appreciate that the WMF is committed doing more thorough due diligence in
the future. It's very important to do so. There's a very good reason why
community consultation is required when dealing with any Collaborative
Advocacy, but given that even existing requirements weren't followed, I'm
not very optimistic that this new commitment holds weight.

Also importantly, the Foundation's Policy and Political Association
Guideline, which was written by WMF Legal in the aftermath of SOPA to iron
out clear boundaries on activism, explicitly rules out any political
activism relating to environmental issues, stating:
> Policy and political associations should protect and advance Wikimedia’s
mission “to empower and engage people around the world to collect and
develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain,
and to disseminate it effectively and globally.” Accordingly, we will not
support causes unrelated to or inconsistent with that mission. For example,
no support should be given to: environmental issues; [...]"

The WMF just inadvertently threw its weight behind dozens of controversial
causes that have nothing to do with our mission. I hope that the WMF will
manage to operate more appropriately in the future.

--Yair Rand

‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 24 באפר׳ 2020 ב-1:18 מאת ‪Gregory Varnum‬‏ <‪
gvar...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬

> Hi all,
>
> I am responding on behalf of the Foundation in my capacity handling
> movement communications, including managing any campaigns on
> wikimediafoundation.org.
>
> As others from the Foundation have stated on this mailing list in the
> past, from time to time the Wikimedia Foundation engages in public policy
> matters which are aligned with the advancement of the Wikimedia mission or
> our values as an organization.
>
> Having said that, we agree with some of the criticisms you have raised. We
> had understood the Earth Day Live campaign to be both global and
> apolitical. However, we agree that the final campaign was both more
> US-centric and more political than we had understood in advance. The banner
> is no longer running, and in the future we will do more thorough due
> diligence.
>
> We remain strongly committed to climate sustainability as a value of the
> Wikimedia Foundation. We will continue to advocate on behalf of it and
> other values that uplift and advance free knowledge globally.
>
> I hope you all had a productive and safe Earth Day, and wish you all
> continued health and safety.
>
> Yours,
> -greg
>
> ---
> Gregory Varnum
> Communications Strategist
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
> gvar...@wikimedia.org
> Pronouns: He/Him/His
>
> > On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:07 AM, RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> >
> > Should this be posted on wiki for others to sign?
> >
> > Samuel
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 07:51, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> >> OPEN LETTER
> >>
> >> Dear Katherine Maher,
> >>
> >> The WMF home website landing page (https://wikimediafoundation.org)
> >> yesterday featured a full-page banner directing all visitors globally
> >> to https://www.earthdaylive2020.org. This is a site used for Americal
> >> political lobbying, refer to the email discussion attached.
> >>
> >> Could you, or the responsible member of your management team, please
> >> explain exactly how this happened?
> >>
> >> There is zero doubt that this was a serious operational error, misuse
> >> of WMF development time and a misuse of the Wikimedia brand. It is
> >> certain that you will agree that the buck stops with the CEO. The
> >> decision to use the Foundation's website for American lobbying is in
> >> conflict with your not for profit status and is in conflict with the
> &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
The concept "apolitical" does not exist if there is a goal.

Nevertheless, for the future, a link to the article about "Earth" in all the 
languages Wikimedia has would be the best solution.

Cheers,

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Yair 
Rand 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:27 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

This would not have happened had there been any oversight (community or
otherwise), and it could have been pulled down quickly enough had there
been any community members with the ability to edit the site. Perhaps it's
time to reconsider how the WMF corporate site operates.

I appreciate that the WMF is committed doing more thorough due diligence in
the future. It's very important to do so. There's a very good reason why
community consultation is required when dealing with any Collaborative
Advocacy, but given that even existing requirements weren't followed, I'm
not very optimistic that this new commitment holds weight.

Also importantly, the Foundation's Policy and Political Association
Guideline, which was written by WMF Legal in the aftermath of SOPA to iron
out clear boundaries on activism, explicitly rules out any political
activism relating to environmental issues, stating:
> Policy and political associations should protect and advance Wikimedia’s
mission “to empower and engage people around the world to collect and
develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain,
and to disseminate it effectively and globally.” Accordingly, we will not
support causes unrelated to or inconsistent with that mission. For example,
no support should be given to: environmental issues; [...]"

The WMF just inadvertently threw its weight behind dozens of controversial
causes that have nothing to do with our mission. I hope that the WMF will
manage to operate more appropriately in the future.

--Yair Rand

‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 24 באפר׳ 2020 ב-1:18 מאת ‪Gregory Varnum‬‏ <‪
gvar...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬

> Hi all,
>
> I am responding on behalf of the Foundation in my capacity handling
> movement communications, including managing any campaigns on
> wikimediafoundation.org.
>
> As others from the Foundation have stated on this mailing list in the
> past, from time to time the Wikimedia Foundation engages in public policy
> matters which are aligned with the advancement of the Wikimedia mission or
> our values as an organization.
>
> Having said that, we agree with some of the criticisms you have raised. We
> had understood the Earth Day Live campaign to be both global and
> apolitical. However, we agree that the final campaign was both more
> US-centric and more political than we had understood in advance. The banner
> is no longer running, and in the future we will do more thorough due
> diligence.
>
> We remain strongly committed to climate sustainability as a value of the
> Wikimedia Foundation. We will continue to advocate on behalf of it and
> other values that uplift and advance free knowledge globally.
>
> I hope you all had a productive and safe Earth Day, and wish you all
> continued health and safety.
>
> Yours,
> -greg
>
> ---
> Gregory Varnum
> Communications Strategist
> Wikimedia Foundation 
> gvar...@wikimedia.org
> Pronouns: He/Him/His
>
> > On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:07 AM, RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> >
> > Should this be posted on wiki for others to sign?
> >
> > Samuel
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 07:51, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> >> OPEN LETTER
> >>
> >> Dear Katherine Maher,
> >>
> >> The WMF home website landing page (https://wikimediafoundation.org)
> >> yesterday featured a full-page banner directing all visitors globally
> >> to https://www.earthdaylive2020.org. This is a site used for Americal
> >> political lobbying, refer to the email discussion attached.
> >>
> >> Could you, or the responsible member of your management team, please
> >> explain exactly how this happened?
> >>
> >> There is zero doubt that this was a serious operational error, misuse
> >> of WMF development time and a misuse of the Wikimedia brand. It is
> >> certain that you will agree that the buck stops with the CEO. The
> >> decision to use the Foundation's website for American lobbying is in
> >> conflict with your not for profit status and is in conflict with the
> >> charitable status promoted to donors worldwide.
> >>
> >> If the management team and yourself are going to continuing political
> >> lobbying and using WMF resources to raise funds for Americal political
> >> organizations which have no agreed relevance to the mission of the
> >> Foundation, there must be a published transparent governance review by
> >> the WMF board of trustees to examine and agree on this significant
> >> operational change to the public Foundation strategy and the terms for
> >> the CEO.
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance.
> >>
> >> Link to Phabricator task to implement the banner:
> >> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
I decided to write/translate/create a featured article every month in Basque 
Wikipedia as a 2020 new year resolution. The home-confinement is helping me 
writing two of them in a month.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Amir 
E. Aharoni 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:57 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making 
you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

Two things!

1. Each of the last three weeks were the best ever for the Content
Translation extension. The usual number is between 2000 and 4000 per week,
and before March 2020, there was only one week with more than 5000 articles
published. In each of the last three weeks more than 5000 articles were
published, and this, of course, is awesome. I'm not sure what is the reason
for the surge—the pandemic, or some article writing contest, or something
else. As far as I can tell, the rise in the number of translations does not
cause more spam, vandalism, or bad translations, but I cannot check
thousands of translated articles in dozens of languages, so if anyone can
check whether the quality of the published articles is good, too, I'll be
happy to know more. You can see more numbers here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslationStats

2. Denny's Wikilambda proposal. It will be challenging to implement, but it
makes a lot of sense. Denny has been pitching it for some time, and the
latest paper published at http://wikilambda.org/ is the most detailed yet.

--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020 ב-9:38 מאת ‪Pine W‬‏ <‪wiki.p...@gmail.com
‬‏>:‬

> * Preface *
>
> Hello,
>
> I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that
> Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would
> return by now and that she would send this email.
>
> I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not
> start a thread for the week of 12 April.
>
> The main content for this email is adapted from Clovermoss, and the
> text is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0
> Unported License. [2]
>
>
> * Main content *
>
> I realize that this week has been difficult for many around the world.
> I have mentioned this in previous weeks, but I think it's vital to
> express my sympathies each and every time. A pandemic like this has
> global ramifications, and I think it's important to recognize that for
> a lot of people, this week could have been one filled with hardship.
> There are people who have been laid off from their jobs, parents who
> are doing their best to take care of their children, students who have
> had to start taking classes online, and an endless amount of other
> unique situations.
>
> This week, some important milestones have been reached across the
> Wikimedia Movement. The Ukrainian Wikipedia [3] has reached the 1
> million article milestone. That's a huge milestone to reach, so I wish
> to congratulate everyone who contributes there! I asked Ата, an active
> contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, about how this milestone
> affects the project. [4] I found her response insightful, and I am
> thankful for it.
>
> In addition, the The Wikimedia Community of the Kazakh language User
> Group has officially been recognized by the Affiliations Commitee. For
> more information, see [5] and [6].
>
> I have also discovered inspiring off-wiki initiatives, such as the
> Mozilla Open Source Support Team (abbreviated as MOSS) launching a
> COVID-19 Solutions Fund. Awards of up to $50,000 are being offered to
> open source technology projects. [7]
>
>
> * Closing comments *
>
> Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on
> Meta. [8] Thanks to User:Ата [9] for the Ukranian translation.
>
> What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to write in any
> language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.
>
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clovermoss
> [2]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License
> [3] https://uk.wikipedia.org/
> [4]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0=prev=19952931
> [5]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
> [6]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Kazakh_language_User_Group
> [7]
> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/03/31/moss-launches-covid-19-solutions-fund/
> [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine/WMYHTW_translations
> [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B0
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia during a quarantine

2020-03-16 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Hello!
Millions of students are in forced quarantine these days, so in the Basque 
Wikipedia we are doing an effort to offer teachers activities they can do with 
their students online. It's being a hard work, but this crisis is a good 
opportunity to spread the relationship between Wikimedia

You can see our main education page here: 
https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari:Hezkuntza

Are you doing similar efforts in your countries?

Thanks

Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Save the date: WikiGap Challenge

2020-03-05 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
FYI: You can use UKBot to make the count automatically: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UKBot.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Eric 
Luth 
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:48 AM
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Save the date: WikiGap Challenge

Dear all,

A quick save the date:

On *Sunday 8 March*, the International Women's Day, we are launching
the WikiGap
Challenge  [1] for the
second year in a row.

The aim of the challenge, which will run until 8 April, is to create and
improve articles to strengthen Wikipedia's coverage of women and related
topics in as many languages as possible.

This year, we are teaming up with UN Human Rights Office. A set of articles
 [2] on women
active in human rights will give bonus points, and the winner of the
challenge will get an opportunity to participate for a couple of days in
some events organised by UN Human Rights on the margins of the June session
of the Human Rights Council in Geneva.

The challenge is a part of the *WikiGap campaign
*, [3] co-organized by the Swedish
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Wikimedia Sverige, Swedish embassies and
Wikimedia affiliates and volunteers across the world.

Sign up  as
a participant already now! We look forward to seeing you in the competition
:-)

Best,
*Eric Luth*
Projektledare engagemang och påverkan | Project Manager, Involvement and
Advocacy
Wikimedia Sverige
eric.l...@wikimedia.se
+46 (0) 765 55 50 95

Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige.
Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap_Challenge
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap_Challenge/List
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap_Challenge/Participants
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-20 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Mmm... How can such a relevant topic be discussed oficially at Facebook?

This is, by far, the worst way to do it.

2020 urt. 20 9:48 AM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Peter Southwood 
):

Thanks for the heads-up, Mike,
P

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Mike Peel
Sent: 20 January 2020 00:29
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

This meta RfC might be of interest:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Should_the_Foundation_call_itself_Wikipedia

Gracias,
Mike

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 08:54:12, geni  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 00:50, Pine W  wrote:
>>
>> There are ways that Wikimedia rebranding consultations could be done
>> collaboratively, politely, and with careful stewardship of donor's money.
>> This is not one of them.
>
> Eh questionable. The community is difficult to engage at the best of
> times and tends to be reflexively conservative about such things. It
> may well be that it is impossible to get any meaningful agreement on
> rebranding.
>
>> I think that it's time for some people in WMF to move on.
>
> This kind of thing has happened from time to time despite significant
> staff turnover over the years. Probably just a natural function of
> certain organisations. All we can really do is try and limit the
> damage.
>
>> but I've had enough of poor coordination,
>
> Unavoidable from time to time since there is too much going on for any
> one person to keep track of.
>
>> questionable financial decisions,
>
> Again a function of size. It would frankly be concerning if every
> editor agreed with every financial decisions. There is also the long
> standing problem of balancing the risk of wasting money with the risk
> of paralysis.
>
>
>
>
> --
> geni
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

2019-10-05 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks for the clarification and the insights. This could be a really 
interesting organizative model for huge countries, even for countries with more 
than one chapter but not a country level one, as happens in the USA.

2019 urr. 5 4:38 PM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad 
Fatkullin ):

Hi folks,

I can probably comment this, as a member of both Wikimedia Russia and a Tatar 
language-specific UG.
On top of participation in Wikimedia Language Diversity initiative on meta, I 
am also contemplating and working towards starting a territory-specific UG for 
my region + an incubator UG for more language-specific UG in the languages of 
Russia.

Wikimedians of Russia seem to see the matreshkas of (1) "global conference - 
regional conference - topic-specific conferences"  & (2) WMF & affiliates 
general meeting - national chapters - UGs" as natural structures, each 
addressing different tasks, having different priorities, whilst cooperating in 
various projects.

* Wikimedia Russia legal requirements (in-person quorum for decision-making, 
etc.) doesn't allow us to accept into membership all members of all our 
regional, language or topic specific UGs. So our chapter is evolving towards a 
mixed confederation status, selectively welcoming some members from various 
groupings around Russia (which themselves can't be neither cells nor branches 
of WMRU).

* SPB is not purely a city, but a one of 85 provinces (read states) of the 
Russian Federation (like my home Republic of Tatarstan, neighbouring Republic 
of Bashkortostan with its Bashkir Wiki-grandmas, or a city of Moscow).

* Once we will spin out UG MSK, we will complete transforming Wikimedia Russia 
into a collective entity for join tasks, working on national-level advocacy & 
other projects.

* We currently have 5 existing UGs, have two more filed & at least one more at 
the preparation stage - as this is a good way to engage locally or topically 
interested public into Wikimedia universe.

regards,
farhad

--
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Wikipedia:frhdkazan / Wikidata:Q34036417

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[Wikimedia-l] Announcing the extension of funding by the Basque Government

2019-09-18 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear wikimedians,
Three years have gone since we started with the Basque Wikimedians User Group 
Education Program, funded by the Basque Government. After two years and a half 
of great enhancing of Basque Wikipedia (more than 2.500 students adding more 
than 1.5 million words on fundamental topics) the Basque Government has 
announce us today the extension of the funding for four more years.

In this four years we will try to strengthen our Educaton Program but also open 
to new areas in order to make our knowledge equity vision possible. By 2024 we 
will have taken sure steps towards creating a free knowledge ecosystem centered 
at Wikimedia.

Sincerely,

Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
By the way, the solution is really easy: The Wiki Foundation.

2019 ira. 7 1:39 PM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Lucas Werkmeister 
):

On 06.09.19 05:49, Zack McCune wrote:
>3.
>
>Supporting sister projects

I am extremely wary of this phrasing. Instead of a family of projects
working together towards a shared goal, to me this invokes the image of
a big, central Wikipedia who graciously supports the other,
insignificant projects out of the goodness of her heart. As a Wikidata
editor, that is not how I want my relation to this movement characterized.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
I think a rebranding to Wikipedia is the best branding option but, at the same 
time, I aknowledge that this can cause a wide variety of problems to so many 
people inside our community that doing it without a plan to give safety (not 
only legal, as their lives could be compromised) is a bigger danger than the 
benefits it causes.



2019 ira. 6 10:41 PM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Isaac Olatunde 
):

We sometimes spend several minutes trying to explain to potentials partners
the difference between Wikipedia and Wikimedia and the relationship between
them.

In most cases we just use "Wikipedia" so as to not confuse them.

Of course some people would share an opposing view for many reasons but I
do think this rebranding is important.

Regards

Isaac

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 9:29 PM Strainu  Pe vineri, 6 septembrie 2019, Adrian Raddatz  a
> scris:
>
> > Yet another potentially good idea from the Foundation killed by the usual
> > atrocious style of stakeholder management. No benefits framed for the
> > community,
>
>
>
> >
> > no indication that this change is coming from the bottom up,
>
>
> Huh? Have you seriously never seen people asking the difference between
> Wikipedia and Wikimedia or wiki(m|p) edians complaining about how hard it
> is to explain that difference?
>
> This change is very much a bottom up one, even if it is pushed by the WMF
> using corporate procedures rather than by the community using an RfC.
>
>
>
> > no
> > assurance that this change happens or not based on the results of the
> > consultation.
>
>
> I would say that it was pretty clear the change will happen :)
>
> Strainu
>
> >
> > You can't figure out the benefits to the community - your key stakeholder
> > group - entirely as part of the consultation. You need to frame the
> > consultation as figuring out how to achieve pre-identified benefits to
> your
> > stakeholders in the optimal way. You should also try to get buy-in from
> key
> > community groups *before* you start consulting, and use them as part of
> the
> > consultation, so it stops being Foundation vs. the community and turns
> into
> > the Foundation collaboratively supporting community-led ideas.
> >
> > It pains me to see this being done poorly, time and time again.
> >
> > Adrian Raddatz
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 3:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > paulospern...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > After the last disastrous WMF intervention in Wikipedia - Framgate - I
> > > believe the timing is just perfect for the WMF to go forward with this
> > fit
> > > of creativity of branding themselves as the "Wikipedia Foundation".
> > >
> > > It's one after another, and never stops.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Paulo
> > >
> > > Yaroslav Blanter  escreveu no dia sexta, 6/09/2019
> > à(s)
> > > 18:25:
> > >
> > > > I agree with Fae. I strongly oppose the proposal, and I somehow used
> to
> > > > assume that our opinion would be asked in a structured way.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Yaroslav
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:03 PM Fæ  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from
> all
> > > > > the demonstrable facts, perhaps the community should now respond
> with
> > > > > a completely unambiguous RFC on meta so there can be no doubt?
> > > > >
> > > > > Something along the lines of:
> > > > > "The WMF have employed Wolff Olins for rebranding advice, and they
> > > > > recommend that Wikimedia rebrands itself around the word
> "Wikipedia"
> > > > > and projects like Wikimedia Commons are renamed to "Wikicommons" to
> > > > > ensure marketing of the projects can easily be delivered by the
> WMF.
> > > > > Do you support or oppose this rebranding programme?"
> > > > >
> > > > > With a straightforward RFC to keep on linking to in every
> discussion
> > > > > on every venue, we might then have tangible evidence of whether
> > "There
> > > > > is considerable support for the branding proposal" or "There is
> > > > > considerable opposition for the branding proposal" is factual.
> Rather
> > > > > than drifting along for months with the debate and unhappiness that
> > > > > comes from arguing both sides of a mostly political case without
> > > > > firmly verifiable evidence available or relying on complex and less
> > > > > credible stats from surveys that are likely to suffer from embedded
> > > > > bias, especially considering the already banked investment in
> > > > > consultancy that drives the need to change something, to prove the
> > > > > spent money had impact and "value".
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Zack and others, it's best to avoid the word "collaboration"
> > when
> > > > > communicating with an international group. It has unfortunate
> history
> > > > > and gives the impression that you are quoting views from
> > collaborators
> > > > > rather than holding open collegial discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Fae
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 17:19, Diane Ranville <
> > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which script oral language will use anyway?

2019-09-02 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
This is a really interesting topic. Those who are used to the latin script 
normally don't get the difficulties to answer this question, but it can be a 
real challenge. An alphanumeric random code could be an answer, but we are 
still in the same point!

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
Subhashish Panigrahi 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:25 PM
To: langua...@lists.wikimedia.org 
Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Which script oral language will use anyway?

Dear Wikimedians,

Some of you might be recovering from the Wikimania fatigue. Those of you
who have already recovered, I wanted to pick your brain about something
that came up multiple times during discussions but none really seem to have
a clear answer.

Which script (writing system) an oral language speaker would use for
creating an entry on (gateway [1]) projects like Wiktionary or Wikibooks or
even uploading a list of words on Commons using a tool like Lingua Libre?
Will it be the script used for the official language of the region where
the former language is from?[2] This is a bit controversial as native
speakers of many indigenous languages would see this as a form of
colonization. Will it be the w:International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)? This
is probably the least controversial but a common and average user might not
be able to read IPA as the latter was created by linguists and was created
for linguistic and scholarly studies rather than for everyday use.

Wikimedians who are native speakers of languages with less written/recorded
documentation and individuals who work on such languages are more
encouraged to share their inputs based on past experience.

1. Gateway project: This is a made-up term to define the Wikimedia projects
that are more welcoming to newbies and do not require stringent citation as
almost all oral languages would lack that. It was fascinating to see Amir
challenging that it only takes about 30 seconds to add an entry to
Wiktionary (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amir_Aharoni_demonstrating_how_to_add_an_entry_to_Wiktionary_in_any_language_to_Ingrid_Cumming,_Wikimania_2019,_Stockholm,_Sweden.jpg
)

Subhashish
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks Lane for the clarification. I disagree on some points, but it is useful 
to read the points.

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Lane 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:34 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

wiki norms which seem to have been transgressed -

   - recognition that the program and submitted content was unusual and
   extraordinary
   - lack of on-wiki documentation of program
   - lack of links between submitted content and on-wiki documentation
   - lack of small pilot before collecting the attention of many new
   Wikimedia contributors doing something unusual
   - failure to tag participants in the program as being connected to the
   program and its documentation

It is not the fault of your program and organization that you did not do
these things. The documentation for all this should have been in place from
~2013, because this situation happens repeatedly. Unfortunately we as a
movement are losing tremendous value in institutional engagement and
donations for lack of documentation. I would guess that in the United
States we identify hot leads for about 10 organizations to pay their staff
to do wiki programs which have a salary cost of US$50,000 in addition to
the value of their media contributions. Globally the amount of content lost
for lack of documentation could be 1 million / year, when conceivably we
could stop a lot of this loss with a one-time investment in training
material development.

Programs have to follow rules. The rules are not published but lots of
people know them. It seems like as a movement we prefer the damage of
opportunity costs in favor of risky or more expensive administrative
development. I feel like if somehow you had connected to a guide for what
to do, then with preparation none of these problems would have happened.

I do not blame the moderators. If these moderators had not reached this
decision, then almost any other moderator would have reached the same
decision. The moderators are well trained and precise in the sense that
they tend to uniformly make the same evaluations in situations. Besides the
reviewers that you saw issue judgement, at least 5 times as many people
reviewed the case and declined to comment or make their presence known.
Those quiet people agreed with the discussion.

You and everyone else deserve clear documentation and guidance. For our
inability to create this and deliver it to you, I apologize and have
regret.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:13 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry Lane... which " wiki publishing norm" did we fail?
>
> Thanks
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> Lane Rasberry 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:01 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
>
> I see the problem as lack of access to basic training information.
>
> It appears that the team doing the uploads failed to comply to wiki
> publishing norms. I do not see this as a problem between editors and
> moderators, but rather as being between who editors versus our rules.
>
> Wikimedia projects already have an low quality standard. The two most
> common complaints that Wikipedia gets are #2 Wikipedia publishes low
> quality content and #1 Wikipedia's quality standards are too high. I see
> this issue as a complaint for us to lower quality.
>
> The answer is not to lower the quality of our content, but rather to
> communicate more effectively the standard of quality that we require. With
> our standards already being so low, requiring things like proof of legal
> compliance, minimal verifiability, and having brief civil conversations in
> case of difficulty, it is challenging for me to imagine us reducing any of
> these already reasonable expectations.
>
> If anyone wants to meet professional Wikimedia colleagues for institutional
> partnerships then here is a Wikimedia community organization which supports
> Wikimedians in Residence with a monthly online meetup and some conversation
> space.
> WREN - Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_in_Residence_Exchange_Network
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:46 AM Yann Forget  wrote:
>
> > Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 15:32, Andy Mabbett  a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 04:50, Yann Forget  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was
> > previously
> > > > published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
> > >
> > > Really? can you provide a link to a policy age proving that assertion?
> > >
> > > Your claim rather makes a mockery of the suggestion that pe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Sorry Lane... which " wiki publishing norm" did we fail?

Thanks

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Lane 
Rasberry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:01 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

I see the problem as lack of access to basic training information.

It appears that the team doing the uploads failed to comply to wiki
publishing norms. I do not see this as a problem between editors and
moderators, but rather as being between who editors versus our rules.

Wikimedia projects already have an low quality standard. The two most
common complaints that Wikipedia gets are #2 Wikipedia publishes low
quality content and #1 Wikipedia's quality standards are too high. I see
this issue as a complaint for us to lower quality.

The answer is not to lower the quality of our content, but rather to
communicate more effectively the standard of quality that we require. With
our standards already being so low, requiring things like proof of legal
compliance, minimal verifiability, and having brief civil conversations in
case of difficulty, it is challenging for me to imagine us reducing any of
these already reasonable expectations.

If anyone wants to meet professional Wikimedia colleagues for institutional
partnerships then here is a Wikimedia community organization which supports
Wikimedians in Residence with a monthly online meetup and some conversation
space.
WREN - Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_in_Residence_Exchange_Network



On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:46 AM Yann Forget  wrote:

> Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 15:32, Andy Mabbett  a
> écrit :
>
> > On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 04:50, Yann Forget  wrote:
> >
> > > Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was
> previously
> > > published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
> >
> > Really? can you provide a link to a policy age proving that assertion?
> >
> > Your claim rather makes a mockery of the suggestion that people should
> > publish to, for example, Flickr before importing to commons
> >
>
> Unless the external publication is done with a free license, of course.
> AFAIK, there is no "official" suggestion that people should publish to
> Flickr before importing to Commons.
> This is the primary evidence when images are deleted as copyright
> violation.
> Others may be watermarks, copyright mentions in EXIF data, etc.
>
> > I think professional photographers should have their account confirmed by
> > > OTRS.
> >
> > Feel free to raise an RfC to make that policy if you think it would
> > gather support.
>
>
> This is simply a consequence of the above.
> If images of professional quality are imported to Commons after being
> published elsewhere, their copyright status will be questioned,
> and rightly so. Now if these images are only published on Commons, fine,
> but the objective of a professional is to sell his images, not to give them
> away for free.
> In addition, many professionals use stock image agencies (Getty, etc.),
> which often requires exclusivity, and therefore prevent publication under a
> free license.
>
> Regards, Yann
> PS: I am probably one of the most inclusive admins on Commons (or less
> strict regarding copyright issues), so if you think yelling at me would
> solve the issue, you are mistaken. I really want Commons to improve, and I
> am open to critics, that's why I come here to discuss, but do not shoot the
> messenger.
>
> --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
In this case none of the images and videos were published outside Commons. But 
there were claims that this were Derivative Works. We are again in the same 
point: we are asking for uploaders to fulfill something beyond the usual 
uploading duties.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Yann 
Forget 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:43 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

The issue is not in that way.
If you published an image exclusively on Commons, then no problem.
If you first publish an image outside Commons, how do we know that you are
the author?
OK, there may be some factors to prove that (consistency of EXIF data,
etc.), but in the absence of EXIF data, we the issue remain.

Regards,
Yann
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Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 10:00, John Erling Blad  a écrit :

> Again; what is different between me as a photographer taking pictures for a
> newspaper and me as a photograper taking pictures for Commons? Is it the
> name written om the lens? The shoes I'm wearing?
>
> There are no difference, this is a fallacy.
>
> John Erling Blad
> /jeblad
>
>
> tir. 14. mai 2019, 05.50 skrev Yann Forget :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was previously
> > published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
> > I think professional photographers should have their account confirmed by
> > OTRS.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yann Forget
> > Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator
> > https://www.jaijagat2020.org/
> > +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp)
> >
> >
> >
> > Le lun. 13 mai 2019 à 16:56, John Erling Blad  a
> écrit :
> >
> > > I can imagine a bot comparing photos found by Google (ie. comparing
> > > hashes) but not a system extracting some kind of unique feature that
> > > says an image is a copyright violation. So how do you imagine ORES
> > > being used for copyright violations? I can't see how a copyright
> > > violation would have any kind of feature that is exclusive? The
> > > argument is quite simple; I as a photographer for a newspaper could
> > > take the exact same pictures as I as an amateur photographer. (I have
> > > photographed a lot for various newspapers.) Using the same equipment,
> > > and me being me, what is different?
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:21 PM Amir Sarabadani 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support
> > for
> > > > images that might be copyright violation, or both.
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the
> > > amount of
> > > > > material it has to deal with.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Yaroslav
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
> > > benjaminik...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or
> > capable
> > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several
> > > > > GLAM-related
> > > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing
> > > what it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can
> > > create a
> > > > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with
> > > Common's
> > > > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote
> you
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do
> > something
> > > > > > similar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds  of copyright
> violating
> > > > > files a
> > > > > > > day:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See the list from just one day:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to
> cope
> > > with
> > > > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and after
> some
> > > time -
> > > > > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the
> > other
> > > > > issue
> > > > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents.
> > > > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
cherry-picking one random file, with no consistent approach. 
So how many times for example I found files from the USA where there is no FOP 
for statues deleted maybe if uploaded by the European users but not by the 
American ones. Because of course if you did delete them all (as you should),  
enwikipedia community will notice and it will be a bigger deal.. it's a problem 
when all images of a monument disappear, right? So let's delete some random 
files, and vanish when somebody point out the other ones, just to repeat the 
same pattern somewhere else after a while. That's why it's so easy to find en-N 
users from the USA who have limited clue with rule of FOP. Now, the users who 
perform this type of deletion pattern will dislike any tools or preference who 
simply encourage to do it in a consistent way... they are expert and they know 
how categories work, if they don't complete the job is probably because they 
don't want to. If we get close to the issue, we manage to get around some "the 
newbes will misuse it" or "its a delicate matter", I guess the "good faith " 
clause will appear.

So, we keep a random patrolling and retropatrolling on this issue, which means 
poor overall copyright literacy, angry users because of the procedural 
incoherence and in the end a huge backlog (since the bulk of the files remain 
there). Take this dynamics, in other fields, with different nuances, multiplied 
by a dozens of different legal and workload scenarios and voilà. You have one 
of the reason of our current situation.

I guess there is no tool which can fix that, it's just the way a community 
really wants to be. Tools can help to encourage people to think differently of 
course, but I fear that would be a strong resistance.

A. M:


Il lunedì 13 maggio 2019, 16:56:49 CEST, Samuel Klein  
ha scritto:

 Ditto.  But did not have the impression that this was {a, the} pressing
need.
Perhaps we also need better ways to highlight workload overloads (and
continue conversations about them through time, rather than sporadic
proposals of specific implementations that can easily fail) to stimulate
cross-project brainstorming to solve the most pressing problems of scale

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 6:02 AM James Heilman  wrote:

> I have a fairly good understanding of copyright. Deal with a fair bit of
> copyright issues occurring via paid editing and flicker washing of images
> and would be happy to do admin work around that if the Commons community
> was interested.
>
> James
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 4:00 AM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wikimedia project communities in general seem to be quite stagnant, if
> not
> > declining, apart from Wikidata, which is and always will be a whole
> > different case. In the case of Commons it was already very much as it is
> > now when I joined in 2009. I always found it a very pleasant place, but
> > overtime I understood I was the exception there, and most people had bad
> > experiences. And it is as Yann has shown there, it's a few sysops running
> > the entire show almost alone, not because they want that, but because
> > nobody else helps with that.
> >
> > IMO the problem is not with the existing sysops, but because people in
> > general do not feel attracted to copyright and other similar minucious
> > stuff which marks everyday life in Commons. And, without that knowledge
> it
> > is pointless, if not counterproductive, to place a candidacy to sysop. No
> > idea what the solution could be, but it certainly is not blaming Commons
> > and the existing sysops. If more people was interested in copyright, less
> > mistakes would be happening in Commons as well. Whatever the solution is,
> > it probably passes by that.
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> > Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga  escreveu no dia
> segunda,
> > 13/05/2019 à(s) 07:09:
> >
> > > A good question to ask would be why the admin group is not growing. And
> > > maybe (maybe) we can find a common answer to both problems pointed
> here.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
But the problem here is not about having a good coverage on copyright issues! 
Is about deleting things claiming that are DW without specifying what is the 
original work this files are derived from!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
In which sense weren't those instructions followed correctly?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
A good question to ask would be why the admin group is not growing. And maybe 
(maybe) we can find a common answer to both problems pointed here.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Well.. there where instructions. All the videos were supervised before 
uploading, all the songs were perfectly cited at the descriptions and all the 
own work was marked as own work. This are the instructiones to follow when 
uploading to Commons.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Peter 
Southwood 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:59 PM
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It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so people 
did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a bad idea. No 
communications, now the blame is being spread without analysing the problem and 
proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation really.
Cheers,
Peter

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Hello all,

There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons components
of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly
hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education
Newsletter

https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions

As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project
uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons
deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects and
so concluded they were copyright violations.  But some rather odd remarks
were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded copyrighted
content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't care." and
 "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for
images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".

Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?

Thrapostibongles
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
As I am the author of the post, some remarks:

  *   Commons is, indeed, the only [cloud] storage for file in most of the 
Wikipedias. Making an accusation of using Commons as a storage place is unfair 
and nonsense.
  *   Communication could be better, of course, but we don't have to think on 
experienced editors and wikimedians, but on people we are trying to convince to 
upload to the Commons and find this burden. They don't know how to communicate 
and why they must do it.
  *   The upload system allow you to upload something if you are the author. 
Period.
  *   Claiming that something is a derivative work without saying which is the 
original work is not a good practice.
  *   Of course, commons volunteers are few, and they have a great job-queue. 
But outreach volunteers are less, and a project like this can take a whole year 
of volunteer work.
  *   After all the victim-blaming seen on this discussion no one was able to 
point to a page where the procedure was clear for everyone.

Let's hope we can follow with this project next year and we will have less 
problems.

Cheers

Galder

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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 3:35 PM
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I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete images on
commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads come from
cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work.

Vito

Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman 
ha scritto:

> It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons interested in
> having more admins?
>
> James
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay for
> > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a
> > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not be
> > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment to see
> > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be
> > reduced.[1]
> >
> > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily housekeeping
> > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would make mass
> > housekeeping very easy.
> >
> > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic image
> > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a Commons hat
> > on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use than
> > mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem to suck
> > up all the oxygen and volunteer time available.
> >
> > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so long, that
> > several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were
> > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive short
> > term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the useful
> > experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away.
> >
> > Links
> > 1.
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Google_has_opened_an_API_for_image_recognition
> > 2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support
> for
> > > images that might be copyright violation, or both.
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the
> > amount of
> > > > material it has to deal with.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Yaroslav
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
> > benjaminik...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or
> capable
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several
> > > > GLAM-related
> > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing
> > what it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can
> > create a
> > > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with
> > Common's
> > > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote you
> > > > project
> > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do
> something
> > > > > similar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but on
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-13 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Well, that Wikidata problem happens on English Wikipedia. Some Wikipedias 
(Basque, Catalan, even French) are embracing Wikidata extensively.

And there's the branding issue. Maybe Wikipedia is not THE future.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-10 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
OpenWiki would be an even stranger and less known brand!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-10 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks Andrew for the insights. I agree with most of what you have proposed.

Actually there's a way to make everything easier: The Wiki Foundation. But it 
would create new problems with non-WMF-wikis.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-10 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
I also think that there are some branding issues, but let me focus just in the 
opposite way: Wikimedia is not a bug, is a feature. When you say you represent 
WikiMedia, then someone asks about why an M ad not a P and gives you the 
opportunity to talk about our free knowledge ecosystem, that is not about an 
Encyclopedia, is much more. So deleting the M from the equation would vanish 
even more our sister projects.

On the other hand, think that maybe in 2022 (for example) we could create a new 
project based entirely on videos with free content from Wikipedia and Commons, 
that could be the best project by 2030... and we call it Wikivideo. Would still 
be a good idea to be called Wikivideo, a project by the Wikipedia Foundation, 
or would we start thinking on calling ourselves The Wikivideo Foundation? I 
think that being Wikimedia gives us better opportunities to make better 
decisions on our products than identifying totally with one of the products.

And I think there are branding issues, yes, but this are not on the name, but 
on the product and the logo families.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
Strainu 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:56 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
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Pe marți, 9 aprilie 2019, Chris Keating  a
scris:

> > At the occasion, we should also reconsider the expressions "chapter"
> > and "user group".
> > "Chapter" is more suitable for local divisions of a national
> > association. And "user group" sounds just like some group. We also
> > already have "user group" as a technical term in MediaWiki.
> >
>
> You may be aware that the movement strategy process is thinking about this
> issue, albeit at a broader level :)
>
> For instance one of the questions the Roles and Responsibilities group is
> looking at is "What governance and organizational structures do we need to
> support the delivery of the strategic direction?"(1)


One would hope that both that group as well as others will be informed and
will take into account the results of the study, which confirm anecdotic
data that almost anyone doing outreach knows.

This is not a matter to be left at  the foundation's sole discretion
(although I personally approve the proposals to various degrees).

Strainu

>
> You will notice that there is no mention of chapters, user groups or indeed
> the WMF in this question. That's because there is no presumption that any
> of those bodies (or types of bodies) will continue to exist in their
> current form - the changes from the strategy process may well be much more
> profound than finessing the names of categories of entity that currently
> exist.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> (1)
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_
> Community_Conversations/Roles_%26_Responsibilities#Scoping_questions
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

2019-04-09 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks!
I prefer students to work directly on Wiki and not on the Dashboard, as they 
don't understand why they are in a completely different page that doesn't seem 
to be related to Wikipedia. But this is useful for some courses.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Sage 
Ross 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:28 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm interested in the IP limit issue.. could you explain how it works,
> please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Galder
>

If you are one of the facilitators for a program or course on Programs &
Events Dashboard, there will be a button to "Enable account requests" on
the home tab. Once you enable account requests, there are two ways to use
the feature.

A user who follows the enrollment link and is not logged in will have the
option to request an account by entering their email address and desired
username. (The Dashboard will verify that the username is available before
they can submit the request.) Then, the facilitator will be able to see a
message when they view the program page, saying that there is a requested
account waiting to be created. They can click to approve it — at which
point, the Dashboard will create the account (and MediaWiki will email them
the temporary password), and also add that user as an editor for that
program.

A facilitator can also create a new account (and add it to the program)
directly, by entering an email and desired username on the Editors tab.
This is useful especially for in-person events like editathons, so that
those without accounts can get set up immediately upon arriving (rather
than needing to follow a link on their own computer).

How it works behind the scenes is that the facilitator or Dashboard admin
who clicks to create the account will attempt to do the account creation
action through OAuth with their own account (eg,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Meredithdrum ), but if they
cannot do so because of the IP limit, the account will be created by
User:OutreachDashboardBot instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/OutreachDashboardBot

The feature can also be enabled by default for an entire campaign.

We built the initial account creation feature for Art+Feminism 2018, but
this year, we added the OutreachDashboardBot fallback so event organizers
to request Account Creator rights (which is what most people running an Art
+ Feminism event did in 2018).

-Sage
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

2019-04-09 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
I'm interested in the IP limit issue.. could you explain how it works, please?

Thanks

Galder

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Sage 
Ross 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:18 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Programs & Events Dashboard

The Wikimedia Community Tech team is in the final stretch of their
Community Wishlist 2017 work and recently announced the beta launch of
the 'Event Metrics' project they worked on for the #3 wish. Since the
initial proposal [1] was to improve Wiki Education's program
organizing and metrics tool Programs & Events Dashboard [2], we've
heard from a lot of people worried that Event Metrics [3] is supposed
to be a replacement for the Dashboard or that the Dashboard is going
away.

To clear up any potential confusion: Wiki Education will keep
supporting Programs & Events Dashboard as part of our commitment to
making our technology work as useful as possible to the rest of the
Wikimedia movement. Our newly-expanded Technology department, along
with many awesome volunteers and interns, is more committed than ever
to improving the Dashboard as tool for global programs, because it's
been so essential for many of you.

Programs & Events Dashboard recently passed the milestone of 4,000
programs, from more than 100 different wikis, and more than 28,000
editors have logged in [4].

For those who haven't used it before, or haven't done so in a while,
some of the useful features include:

* Account registration for in-person edit-a-thons  — to avoid getting
stopped by the IP limit for new accounts
* Automatically updated metrics for articles edited, number of edits,
Commons uploads, etc. [5]
* Additional downloadable metrics, including 7-day retention of new
editors, the complete list of edits made
* For English and Portuguese Wikipedia, tools for monitoring which
articles are involved in deletion processes [6]
* Translatable, wiki-editable training modules for newcomers [7]
* For all the languages with ORES "article quality" models, extra data
and visualizations based on ORES estimates

We have some additional features planned for the near future as well:

* Metrics for number of citations added
* Wikidata metrics for claims created and references added

If you have feature requests or complaints, please do let us know
either on the Meta talk page [8] or by opening an issue on GitHub [9].
Our team is small, so we rely heavily on the feedback we get from
Programs & Events Dashboard users to identify problems and make
improvements.

-Sage Ross
Wiki Education



[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2017/Programs_and_events/Development_of_the_programs_and_events_dashboard
[2] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/
[3] https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/
[4] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/usage
[5] 
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Wikimedia_ZA/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019_South_Africa/home
[6] https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/campaigns/artfeminism_2019/alerts
[7] 
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/training/editing-wikipedia/editing-basics/welcome-new-editor
[8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard
[9] 
https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard/issues/new/choose

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-09 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
From the first text:

" Explore new naming conventions for the Foundation and affiliate groups that 
use Wikipedia rather than Wikimedia."

I also think that Wikipedia is a much stronger brand than Wikimedia is, but I 
have been talking about this issue the last weeks in different places with way 
very different people and they all say that they will have real problems if 
they change the name from Wikimedia to Wikipedia. Legal issues will be more 
common if the name convention is changed from Wikimedia to Wikipedia, as you 
can be responsible (country law's depending) of what it is written on Wikipedia.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Chris 
Keating 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:39 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

> At the occasion, we should also reconsider the expressions "chapter"
> and "user group".
> "Chapter" is more suitable for local divisions of a national
> association. And "user group" sounds just like some group. We also
> already have "user group" as a technical term in MediaWiki.
>

You may be aware that the movement strategy process is thinking about this
issue, albeit at a broader level :)

For instance one of the questions the Roles and Responsibilities group is
looking at is "What governance and organizational structures do we need to
support the delivery of the strategic direction?"(1)

You will notice that there is no mention of chapters, user groups or indeed
the WMF in this question. That's because there is no presumption that any
of those bodies (or types of bodies) will continue to exist in their
current form - the changes from the strategy process may well be much more
profound than finessing the names of categories of entity that currently
exist.

Thanks,

Chris



(1)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Roles_%26_Responsibilities#Scoping_questions
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-09 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that they are not 
really Wikipedia Russia.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
Benjamin Ikuta 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals



What real life problems would there be?



On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga  
wrote:

> The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more problems 
> than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves with 
> Wikipedia could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think on 
> making our product better, because is not a brand problem, is an obsolescence 
> problem what we have.
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
> Gerard Meijssen 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals
>
> Hoi,
> The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is to
> share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition to
> this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
> template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder, even
> prevent other possible approaches.
>
> Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
> hinders our mission.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:
>
>> Hi Elena,
>>
>> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
>> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jim
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
>>> community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
>> via
>>> email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
>>> individual contributors.
>>>
>>> I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
>> wanted
>>> to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
>> session
>>> to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
>> provide
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
>>> closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
>>>
>>> If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
>>> problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
>>> the talk page afterwards.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Elena
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
>>>
>>>
>>> [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Elena Lappen
>>> Community Relations Specialist
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
>> ensure
>>>> we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
>> possible. ::
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
>> on
>>>> Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
>>>>
>>>> Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
>>>> world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
>> get
>>>> a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
>> evaluate
>>>> public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
>> of
>>>> our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
>> commissioned
>>>> by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
>>>> directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
>>>> perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
>>>> Nig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-09 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
The idea of rebranding Wikimedia to Wikipedia will create FAR more problems 
than it solves, specially in places where identifying ourselves with Wikipedia 
could create real life problems to affiliates. Let's think on making our 
product better, because is not a brand problem, is an obsolescence problem what 
we have.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Gerard 
Meijssen 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:36 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

Hoi,
The problem is that Wikipedia has an article bound interest. Our aim is to
share in the sum of all knowledge and it is about subjects. In addition to
this the approach and `the lessons learned` in effect are used as a
template on how `other` Wikipedias are to function. This bias hinder, even
prevent other possible approaches.

Using Wikipedia to define what Wikimedia does, enforces existing bias and
hinders our mission.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:25, James Salsman  wrote:

> Hi Elena,
>
> If by "branding project" you mean replacing references to Wikimedia
> with Wikipedia, that is fine with me.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elena Lappen  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks to those of you who have participated in the branding project
> > community consultation so far. We’ve received a lot of helpful feedback
> via
> > email, on-wiki, and in small meetings with affiliate group members and
> > individual contributors.
> >
> > I posted this invitation to the project talk page last week [1], but
> wanted
> > to send a reminder here that we will be hosting a video conference
> session
> > to give people a chance to see the presentation, ask questions and
> provide
> > feedback.
> >
> > When? This Thursday, April 11th from 16:00-17:00 UTC.
> >
> > Where? https://bluejeans.com/540134391/browser, or call in using your
> > closest local number [2] and enter meeting ID 540 134 391#.
> >
> > If you’d like to see the presentation but cannot attend, that is no
> > problem—we will be posting a recording to Commons and putting the link on
> > the talk page afterwards.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Elena
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review#Invitation_to_join_a_video_conference_presentation
> >
> >
> > [2] https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elena Lappen
> > Community Relations Specialist
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> wrote:
> >
> > > :: Apologies for cross-posting to multiple mailing lists. We want to
> ensure
> > > we spread the word about this opportunity to as many people as
> possible. ::
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We are writing today to invite you to be a part of a community review
> on
> > > Wikimedia brand research and strategy.
> > >
> > > Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation set out to better understand how the
> > > world sees Wikimedia and Wikimedia projects as brands.[1] We wanted to
> get
> > > a sense of the general visibility of our different projects, and
> evaluate
> > > public support of our mission to spread free knowledge.
> > >
> > > We launched a global brand study to research these questions, as part
> of
> > > our planning toward our 2030 strategic goals.[2] The study was
> commissioned
> > > by the Board, carried out by the brand consultancy Wolff Olins, and
> > > directed by the Foundation’s Communications team.[3][4] It collected
> > > perspectives from the internet users of seven countries (India, China,
> > > Nigeria, Egypt, Germany, Mexico and the US) on Wikimedia projects and
> > > values.
> > >
> > > The study revealed some interesting trends:
> > >
> > > - Awareness of Wikipedia is above 80% in Western Europe and North
> America.
> > >
> > > - Awareness of Wikipedia averages above 40% in emerging markets,[5]
> and is
> > > fast growing.
> > >
> > > - There is awareness of other projects, but was significantly lower.
> For
> > > example, awareness of Wikisource was at 30%, Wiktionary at 25%,
> Wikidata at
> > > 20%, and Wikivoyage at 8%.
> > >
> > > - There was significant confusion around the name Wikimedia.
> Respondents
> > > reported they had either not heard of it, or extrapolated its
> relationship
> > > to Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > - In spite of lack of awareness about Wikimedia, respondents showed a
> high
> > > level of support for our mission.
> > >
> > > Following from these research insights, the Wolff Olins team also made
> a
> > > strategic suggestion to refine the Wikimedia brand system.[6] The
> > > suggestions include:
> > >
> > > - Use Wikipedia as the central movement brand rather than Wikimedia.
> > >
> > > - Provide clearer connections to the Movement projects from Wikipedia
> to
> > > drive increased awareness, usage and contributions to smaller projects.
> > >
> > > - Retain Wikimedia project names, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Sverige receives a total of USD 500, 000+ in funding for three new projects, and a cost reduction of USD 30, 000/year

2019-03-28 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Great news!
We can't wait to have the WikiSpeech application deployed, as the Basque 
language part is finished yet!

Cheers
Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Search strings in "cite"

2019-03-14 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Sorry, I misunderstood you... yes, this is GREAT!

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Galder 
Gonzalez Larrañaga 
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:16 PM
To: John Erling Blad; Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Search strings in "cite"

This has been working for a while, AFAIK I have been using it for more than two 
years now.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of John 
Erling Blad 
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:14 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Search strings in "cite"

Anyone noticed the terse tech notice in november?

"When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic"
citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able
to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a
book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases
and add the top result." [1]

This is absolutely great and should have been posted in big friendly
letters as a site notice!

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198567

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Search strings in "cite"

2019-03-14 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
This has been working for a while, AFAIK I have been using it for more than two 
years now.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of John 
Erling Blad 
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:14 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Search strings in "cite"

Anyone noticed the terse tech notice in november?

"When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic"
citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able
to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a
book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases
and add the top result." [1]

This is absolutely great and should have been posted in big friendly
letters as a site notice!

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198567

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki

2019-02-27 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Is it possible to add other languages if we have a free TTS system?

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of Samuel 
Klein 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:10 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki

Brilliant.  Long in the making, much needed.

And for branding, the website devoted to this should be called Wikipedia
Media...

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:55 AM James Heilman  wrote:

> Hey All
>
> We have a new project called Video Wiki
>  which
> allows:
>
>1. The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images /
>short video segments from Commons
>2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with
>references end up in the captions of the video with references. These
>captions can be turned on and off
>3. At the end of the video it automatically adds
>   1.  the license for the text (CC BY SA license)
>   2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts
>   3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts
>4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is
>derived from
>5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of
>each image
>
>
> Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples
> thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos
> eventually.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki

2019-02-27 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
WOW!

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of James 
Heilman 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:55 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki

Hey All

We have a new project called Video Wiki
 which
allows:

   1. The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images /
   short video segments from Commons
   2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with
   references end up in the captions of the video with references. These
   captions can be turned on and off
   3. At the end of the video it automatically adds
  1.  the license for the text (CC BY SA license)
  2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts
  3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts
   4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is
   derived from
   5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of
   each image


Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples
thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos
eventually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor

2019-02-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
We have also some videotutorials in Basque: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_tutorial_videos_in_Basque

From: Education  on behalf of Lennart 
Guldbrandsson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:53 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]; Wikimedia 
Education
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia 
references with VisualEditor

Hello,

This is really good. I've been thinking about doing tutorials too, but so far I 
haven't started. Sara Mörtsell did a few videos in Swedish some time ago (for 
instance 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ALektion_3_-_l%C3%A4gg_till_k%C3%A4lla_och_referenslista.webm)
 but they need to be updated.

When you do these, please try to document the process as well, to make it 
easier for others to replicate it. Thanks.


Best wishes,


Lennart Guldbrandsson



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Skickat: den 26 februari 2019 04:48
Till: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wikimedia Education; Wikimedia & GLAM 
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Ämne: [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia 
references with VisualEditor

Hello colleagues,

*Overview*

A video tutorial for creating references on Wikipedia with VisualEditor is
in development for English Wikipedia and possibly also for Spanish
Wikipedia. Publication is likely to happen in March 2019. If this tutorial
is well received then additional tutorials may follow.

If you would like to receive notifications regarding the availability of
draft or finished tutorial products, or to learn additional information,
then please continue reading below.

*How can I request notifications for when drafts or finished products are
ready for review?*

If you would like to receive a notice when a draft or finished product is
ready for public review then I invite you to go to the the project talk
page and follow the link to the newsletter subscription page [1]. During
the development of this single tutorial the newsletters are likely to be
short. I am likely to send approximately 3 to 6 notifications to
subscribers between now and the end of this mini-project.

(The reason that I am not including a link to the newsletter's subscription
page directly in this email is that I may change the name of the newsletter
in the future, and I prefer to minimize any potential confusion and the
number of redirect pages, so I think that including a link from this email
to the talk page is preferable because the location of the talk page is
likely to remain stable.)

*Background information*

Some of you may remember the project that was originally named LearnWiki
[2]. For various painful reasons that project was not completed within the
original schedule and budget. However, I continue to believe that video
tutorials Wikimedia projects could be very useful for new contributors, and
also for helpers who could use the videos to demonstrate concepts to new
contributors. I think of this project as being a pilot iteration for
"LearnWiki version 2.0", or maybe "LearnWiki 2.0 beta 1",  with a major
change between this effort and the original LearnWiki project being how the
project is executed. The goal for this tutorial remains aligned with the
original vision for LearnWiki. I believe that I know more about project
management than I did when I attempted LearnWiki version 1.0.

WMF approved a rapid grant for me to develop a single tutorial module [3]
regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor. This tutorial is
in development, I and I plan to publish the finalized script and video in
March 2019. Depending on the amount of remaining funds after development of
the English version of this tutorial and on whether WMF agrees, in addition
to an English version of the tutorial I may also produce a Spanish version
within the budget of the current rapid grant. Additional translations or
derivative versions would be welcome from anyone who would like to create
them.

If this first tutorial is well received then I may request funding for
additional tutorials.

Within the next few days I plan to publish the first complete draft of the
script for the referencing tutorial. I will place a link to that draft on
the project talk page [1], and I am likely to create links from the same
talk page to further drafts and additional tutorial products. If you would
like to receive project updates then please watch the talk page and/or
subscribe to the newsletter.

I welcome any comments or questions that you have, either on a mailing list
or on the project talk page [1].

Yours in service,

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )


[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series

[2]

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia+Education Conference programme announced

2019-02-25 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear all,
The Wikimedia+Education Conference 2019 will happen soon in Donostia, Basque 
Country. The programme has been announced: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia%2BEducation_Conference_2019/Programme

We will host more than 50 events about the relationship between education and 
our movement.

Thank you very much

Galder
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-25 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
In the Basque wikipedia we are doing monthly contests on different topics, and 
some of them are focused on quality (i.e. adding references and images). There 
are some prices every month, usually books or thing related to technology. And 
people usually like to participate for the fun, and for the prize.

From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of 
Benjamin Lees 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 5:14 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

It's interesting that you chose spellchecking as your example.  On the
English Wikipedia, I tend to see that as an activity that some people
actually do find fun (or relaxing).  Plus, spelling errors (or perceived
spelling errors[1]) are something that unregistered users really like
fixing.  But maybe that varies significantly across language editions.

In any event, spelling errors are probably the case where eventualism is
most appropriate.  It is rare that someone will be misinformed because of
spelling mistakes, and they serve a useful signaling function in making it
clear that a given piece of content has probably not undergone peer
review.  And rather than driving people away, they tend to draw them
in—Cunningham's law[2] never fails.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law


On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:55 PM John Erling Blad  wrote:

> Both in Wikipedia and other parts of the Wikimedia-universe there are
> a lot of jobs that should be done, but are not so popular. Because
> they are not done, people get tired and backs away from whatever they
> are doing.
>
> I could give several examples, but lets say spellchecking. It is not
> fun doing spellchecking, even if you are spellchecking something
> written by a professor. Instead of doing spellchecking you do
> something else, like poking around in some code, or write about
> Pokemon. While you do so the professor gets a bit annoyed over the not
> so perfect article, and starts to wonder what happen to the crowd in
> crowdsourcing.
>
> Somewhere along the way the it became so bad to talk about anything
> except the pure wikipedian sitting on top of his pillar with a book
> and a computer, writing articles in solitude, that we completely
> missed the opportunities to get a much larger momentum.
>
> The Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia has over a half a million articles.
> About 10 % lack sources. Nearly all of them has spelling errors. It is
> nothing unusual about this.
>
> Could we use bounties to get some momentum?
>
> John Erling Blad
> /jeblad
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia+Education Conference registration is now open

2019-01-07 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear Wikimedians,
The very fist Wikimedia+Education Conference will be organized this April in 
Donostia, Basque Country. We have received more than 50 programme proposals so 
far, and registration is now open. You can register or send your programme 
proposals here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia%2BEducation_Conference_2019

Thanks you very much and hope to see you soon.

Galder
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia+Education Conference. April 2019 Donostia-San Sebastián

2018-12-11 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear all,
Basque Wikimedians User Group is happy to announce the celebration of the first 
Wikimedia+Education Conference, next April 2019 in Donostia. It will be a 
full-weekend Conference to talk about the relation between Wikimedia and our 
education projects, and the way Education is being shaped by Wikimedia.

Call for programme submissions and scholarships is now open, so we hope to have 
your input in this exciting event. All the information can be found here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia%2BEducation_Conference_2019


Thanks for your interest

Galder
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