Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Hong, Yongmin]

Sitenotice depends on the project, not country of users. So, users in Italy
who is browsing ko.wikipedia.org will not see the banner if it is displayed
in sitenotice, which is not the case for CentralNotice.

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2015. 8. 25. 오전 2:29에 "Strainu" 님이 작성:

> 2015-08-18 21:42 GMT+03:00 Romaine Wiki :
> > Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner.
>
> It's more like 85-90% in my experience, but still a lot.
>
> > *What is the situation?*
> > * The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner in Italy during
> > the month September.
> > * The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is organising the
> contest
> > in Italy and needs a banner as well.
>
> Why not use the sitenotice?
>
> Strainu
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

[Hong, Yongmin]

(snip)
>
> A use of superprotect could be to protect certain pages or settings
against
> actions stemming from the hypothetical but possible scenario that an admin
> account is compromised.
>

If the setting is so dangerous that it will cause SERIOUS problem if
misconfigured, why is it editable by admins at all? it should be in
operations/mediawiki-config.git and should be touched by developers only
via gerrit.

(snip)

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[Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

[Hong, Yongmin]

It has been a year (and a day) since the gerrit 153302 [1] has been merged
and deployed to the dewiki.

Just a friendly reminder that you don't forget WMF's inappropriate action.

[1]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/153302
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

[Hong, Yongmin]

I would be interested to see the example of "Flickr2Commons-uploaded images
which marked license as CCLv3". AFAIK, all images I had to review had
proper CCLv2 template, or it was... (one of the below)
- Copyvio
- Human error (mistake of user)
- It was licensed under NC or ND in fact.

I haven't been much active as I used to be in Commons this year, so bot
code may have been changed. Yet bot shouldn't do that stupid thing (marking
v2 stuff as v3).

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2015. 7. 30. 오전 2:33에 "Lilburne" 님이 작성:

> On 29/07/2015 09:01, Petr Kadlec wrote:
>
>> Really? Neither the word "instititution" nor "third party [website]"
>> appear
>> in the text of the CC license, so on what exactly do you base this very
>> specific distinction just so narrowly fitting our behavior (no image
>> attribution within articles, only on the image description page reachable
>> upon clicking on the image), while not fitting anyone else doing exactly
>> the same? The license requires only that the credit "be implemented in any
>> reasonable manner". [Also note that the _text_ of our projects, while also
>> licensed under CC-BY-SA, is licensed in way that explicitly states that a
>> sufficient attribution is "[t]hrough hyperlink (where possible) or URL to
>> the page or pages that you are re-using (since each page has a history
>> page
>> that lists all authors and editors)".]
>>
>
>
> Many of the images on Commons are from flickr which is CC 2.0 licenses.
> Not 2.5, 3.0,
> or 4.0 and there is no automatic upgrade from an older to newer version.
>
> The CC 2.0 licenses do not say that a hyperlink is sufficient that is a
> v4.0 license. Many
> photographers are not making CC content available under 4.0 licenses as a
> result. So
> you have a problem in that much of your image content is licensed 2.0.
> Those running
> flickr2Commons upload bots are violating the license by upgrading it to
> v3.0 unless they
> are creating derivatives. None of the pre 4.0 licenses say that a
> hyperelink is sufficient for
> attribution. They all say that:
>
>You must keep intact all copyright notices for
> the Work and
>give the Original Author credit reasonable to
> the medium or
>means You are utilizing by conveying the name
> (or pseudonym
>if applicable) of the Original Author if
> supplied; the title of the
>Work if supplied; to the extent reasonably
> practicable, the
>Uniform Resource Identifier, if any, that
> Licensor specifies to be
>associated with the Work, unless such URI does
> not refer to the
>copyright notice or licensing information for
> the Work
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Korea as a Wikimedia User Group

[Hong, Yongmin]

It's "축하합니다". xD

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2015. 7. 22. 오전 8:01에 "Lila Tretikov" 님이 작성:

> Congratulations! (how do I say this in Korean?)
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Carlos M. Colina 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We have another group of wikimedians being recognised [1], the
> Wikimedians
> > of Korea User Group. They have been around for some time and among their
> > main interests is the development of educational content in South Korea
> > available for all, along with supporting the development of other
> Wikimedia
> > projects.
> >
> > Welcome!!
> >
> > 1:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Wikimedians_of_Korea_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
> > --
> > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
> > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
> > Carlos M. Colina
> > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 |
> www.wikimedia.org.ve
> > 
> > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> > Phone: +972-52-4869915
> > Twitter: @maor_x
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Korea as a Wikimedia User Group

[Hong, Yongmin]

Finally!!!

There was a meeting for creation fo legal entity in Oct. 2014 and I see the
approval by WMF AffCom today.

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2015. 7. 18. 오전 12:50에 "Carlos M. Colina" 님이 작성:

> Dear all,
>
> We have another group of wikimedians being recognised [1], the Wikimedians
> of Korea User Group. They have been around for some time and among their
> main interests is the development of educational content in South Korea
> available for all, along with supporting the development of other Wikimedia
> projects.
>
> Welcome!!
>
> 1:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Wikimedians_of_Korea_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
> --
> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
> Carlos M. Colina
> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve
> 
> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> Phone: +972-52-4869915
> Twitter: @maor_x
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FindArticles.com died in 2012

[Hong, Yongmin]

Try to find links from https://archive.org/web/ , http://webcitation.org ,
or https://archive.is (note: this last one is blacklisted on enwp, iirc). I
revived few deadlinks (not this host though) from these archives.

And try to make habit of archiving websites when you cite something. I
think I once saw a project to automatically archive citation source links
but not sure about current status.

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2015. 6. 30. 오후 8:40에 "Richard Symonds" 님이
작성:

> There's a point to be made there: Libraries in some countries are still
> being destroyed (see
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/28/mali-timbuktu-library-ancient-manuscripts
> and http://elaph.com/Web/Culture/2015/2/985403.html or
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-burns-8000-rare-books-030900856.html),
> and although there's an effort to save them, it's not an effort we're
> really involved with. That's before we even start on how to reflect a
> reference to a non-existent book on Wikipedia!
>
> But to get back to the original point, a semi-automated effort might be the
> best way (if the slowest) to get these web pages linked properly again.
>
>
>
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>
> On 30 June 2015 at 11:06, Lilburne  wrote:
>
> > On 30/06/2015 10:58, Ricordisamoa wrote:
> >
> >> Il 30/06/2015 11:41, Lilburne ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> The average lifespan of a webpage is about 77 days. It matters not
> >>> whether the site is still running or dead. Webmasters shuffle stuff
> about
> >>> and delete things at will. Click on the random article button and see
> a)
> >>> how many of the first 10 have external links, and b) how many of those
> >>> links are still live, or don't redirect to the sites homepage. I
> reckon at
> >>> least 50% of all external links on en.wp are dead. Lesson: the
> internet is
> >>> ephemeral and the only permanent record is on physical material.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes, if you forget
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria.
> >>
> >
> > Well of course that was some 1700 years ago. You are equating a event of
> > millennial proportion with something that happens every day? Get a grip
> on
> > reality.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

[Hong, Yongmin]

ThrottleOverride extension is not deployed on WMF cluster[1] so your best
bet is to create a new bug which is already deployed on WMF cluster.

[1] this means even if this is fixed, you will not see the fixed code on
wikimedia wikis.

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2015. 6. 19. 오후 11:31에 "Andy Mabbett" 님이 작성:

> On 19 June 2015 at 14:58, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> > On 19 June 2015 at 13:54, WereSpielChequers 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Earlier this year as a result of the glam organisers event in Paris I
> made a proposal at bugzilla for an event organisers useright. This would
> have allowed us to circumvent this problem at those editathons that are
> targeted at newbies, and it got widely endorsed by GLAM editors from
> several languages. Sadly it got marked as resolved because there was
> something that looked similar to developers, though not of course to
> potential users. If anyone here knows how to bypass phabricator or how to
> mark a phabricator request as unresolved and still much wanted, then the
> link is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91928
> >
> > I've reopened it - please comment there.
>
> It's been closed again. Nonetheless, please do comment.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

[Hong, Yongmin]

Cluebot only exists on English Wikipedia, and remember that English
Wikipedia is not a standard, just another wmf wiki with the largest
userbase.

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2015. 6. 19. 오전 6:06에 "James Heilman" 님이 작성:

> Yes CAPTCHA is a pain. Yes it prevents bots from spamming us.
>
> The question is does cluebot provide us sufficient defence such that
> CAPTCHA is not needed?
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