[Wikimedia-l] http://wikiacademykosovo.org/
Take a look at the new project for kosovo, thanks to ipko and arianit http://wikiacademykosovo.org/ Photo contest and article improvement, nice job! mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Local Event in Kosovo
Hi there, there is an upcoming local event in kosovo that I would ilke to tell you about. if anyone is interested in taking part in this , please tell me and or arianit. Also we are interested in getting swag from wikimedia as well for this. Arianit is organizing this. (website is coming) : Wikipedia Academy Kosovo will encourage the creation of high-quality content - both photos and articles - on Wikipedia English by students and others in Kosovo. The Academy will be a 3-day event organized in Prishtina, Kosovo on 22-24 February. Participants will be recruited from high schools and universities around Kosovo. They will be encouraged to form teams from their schools with a faculty mentor to sponsor them. To help prepare for the Academy, the organizers will conduct presentations introducing students to the wiki editing process, appropriate content creation and help students form teams at their schools. Best articles and photos will be awarded prizes. Participants will hear from local, regional and international experts to improve their understanding of and purpose Wikipedia, the foundation of open source knowledge and how to prepare high quality articles. On day two, the participants will organize into teams to generate new content that will be edited and posted during the event. On day three participants will post their content to Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo for new travel guide
Here is my new suggestion with the colors, and the backpack has a wikipedia patch on it : [image: Inline image 1] here is the version without the patch in case someone thinks it might be a problem to include it : [image: Inline image 2] On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: thanks for the feeback I can color the backpack in those colors, and also can change the text at any time On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Hello, It is not absolutely necessary to wait until we know the name because it will be later added simply to the logo. I like those compass needle versions, by the way. The logo should be not too complicated, and include the colours of Wikimedia. Kind regards Ziko 2012/10/6 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: please consider my latest logo : [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I don't object to look at it - please do :) I just suggest to delay the voting (and submission deadline) until a few days after the formal decision has been made by the Legal Counsel. Lodewijk 2012/10/6 James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com Okay I guess it would be nice but not necessary to have a new logo for launch. It is fairly clear at this point what name the new project will be going with. Thus I see no reason why we cannot begin looking at logos now. James Heilman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo for new travel guide
please consider my latest logo : [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: I don't object to look at it - please do :) I just suggest to delay the voting (and submission deadline) until a few days after the formal decision has been made by the Legal Counsel. Lodewijk 2012/10/6 James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com Okay I guess it would be nice but not necessary to have a new logo for launch. It is fairly clear at this point what name the new project will be going with. Thus I see no reason why we cannot begin looking at logos now. James Heilman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo for new travel guide
thanks for the feeback I can color the backpack in those colors, and also can change the text at any time On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Hello, It is not absolutely necessary to wait until we know the name because it will be later added simply to the logo. I like those compass needle versions, by the way. The logo should be not too complicated, and include the colours of Wikimedia. Kind regards Ziko 2012/10/6 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: please consider my latest logo : [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I don't object to look at it - please do :) I just suggest to delay the voting (and submission deadline) until a few days after the formal decision has been made by the Legal Counsel. Lodewijk 2012/10/6 James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com Okay I guess it would be nice but not necessary to have a new logo for launch. It is fairly clear at this point what name the new project will be going with. Thus I see no reason why we cannot begin looking at logos now. James Heilman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] In the News
I love it! great stuff! wikipedia edit heatmaps is what we need! On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Folks, if this has already been brought to the List, please excuse the repetition. If not, enjoy; http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/romneys-running-mate-some-say- wikipedia-holds-the-answer/?nl=usemc=edit_cn_20120810 Marc Riddell They probably got that out of Wikipedia, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012#Use_of_Wikipedia_for_divination Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Trent Franks quotes Wikipedia in the house of representatives
Hi there, It looks like Trent Franks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Franks) is a fan of wikipedia, but needs some information about how it works. He quotes Wikipedia, ``One year after the Fort Hood shooting, the motivations of the perpetrator were not yet established.'', maybe he needs to learn how to update the article if he has more information about it. Why would quoting wikipedia here be something that is a good idea? As if the article is always the most up to date. I think that quoting the sources are more import. He could add tags as well. Maybe someone should sit down with him and give him some tutoring. mike See : http://origin.www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2012-08-03/html/CREC-2012-08-03-pt1-PgE1416-4.htm https://scout.sunlightfoundation.com/item/speech/CREC-2012-08-03-pt1-PgE1416-4.chunk0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/07/30/newt-gingrich-wikipedia-michele-bachmann-muslim-brotherhood/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Scout (Sunlight Foundation) sc...@sunlightfoundation.com Date: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:20 PM Subject: wikipedia - 1 speech To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Aug 3, 2012 - Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) said: ...o avoid confronting his acts as inspired by his support for radical Islamism. An American of Palestinian descent, Hasan had been in touch with a radical American cleric in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki. He declared Hasan a hero. Al-Awlaki was himself declared a ``specially designated global terrorist'' and, with presidential approval, was killed by a predator missile. Yet, despite the evidence, Wikipedia reports, ``One year after the Fort Hood shooting, the motivations of the perpetrator were not yet es... http://scout.sunlightfoundation.com/item/speech/CREC-2012-08-03-pt1-PgE1416-4.chunk0 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?
on the copyright page they say that the content is mostly cc-by-sa http://en.goldenmap.com/stylesheets/terms.php On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some internal links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one of the (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of their content. The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance -Mark On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote: Dear All I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission is. Is there an agreement in place for this? Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest Best regards, Rui ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.orgwrote: And we may want to consider if it is really _everyone_ we want to edit our articles. I don't believe you actually said this. I would say this is a theme that I have seen on the wikipedia. People dont have time to take new editors by the hand, for example 12 year old kids who write articles about themselves are deleted instead of being nicely told to turn the page into their user page for example, the list goes on and on. mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org http://flossk.orgSaving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
Well I am listening, am open to criticism and willing to put work into helping, but as l long as I can continue legally and morally I will. But I will have to spend more time to review the known copyright violations and I am going to make some program to watch and flag articles that are known problems. The for me, getting deleted articles on my favorite topics make this worthwhile. The main issue is not notable, and as long as wikipedia as the policy of deleting basically everyone from parts of the world, I will have a basis to continue. mike On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:32 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Please reconsider your project. There is so much that can be done on Wikipedia to rescue articles worth rescuing that it would be a great waste to see time and energy diverted to unsalvageable articles. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org http://flossk.orgSaving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
Hi, I created the wika because the archive.org is so hard to use and slow. I want to be able to share articles with people, and I have been contacting all the twitter users to tell them about the articles (after checking and updating them). I want to host them, at least the good ones to give bands and things a place to find themselves, or to give the non-notables a home. In fact, a few people have already found themselves via google or some means and have updated thier articles. I bet that this should be good enough to prevent them from recreating the articles on wp. The technical details are here, https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/wiki/SpeedyDeletion https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/wiki/SpeedyDeletionI created monthly buckets, the most recent one is here: http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-v3-2012-07 If it turns out that too many articles that are copyvio are slipping through, i could turn off the feed to wikia, yet keep the archive.org feed, they are two separate processes. Ideally we would agree on some tag to mark articles that would be worthy of hosting, but not ready for wikipedia. We are pulling only some categories directly. mike On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: The articles are hosted on archive.org, and then transfered to wikia, I could make some review tools, but where to host them? mike Well, why do you want to host them? Or, more specifically, why do you want to host them somewhere other than archive.org? I definitely understand wanting to save the content of these articles just in case someone wants to work on fixing them. Wikipedia's temporary undeletion process for people who wish to do this, is simply not convenient. But archive.org seems to take care of that purpose just fine. If the *topic* is deemed notable, just the article itself is of very poor quality, then once these have undergone manual review and intervention, the right place to host them would be back in Wikipedia. It would also be nice to have a wiki for topics deemed by Wikipedia to be not notable. But this is a much different problem, and I don't believe it is served well by the autopopulation of mostly very low quality articles. Also, sorry if this was already answered, but where are they on archive.org? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org http://flossk.orgSaving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
John, and others. I have finally figured out a big problem with my plan. The articles for deletion are not tagged peoperly at all. There are authors who know for a fact that articles are mistagged and have no proper copyvio tagging, and now they are accusing me of hosting copyvio articles. I see this a problem in the wikipedia deletion system, if an editor knows for a fact that an articles is in violation of copyright then they should tag it as Such. I have written scripts to strip out artilces that are properly tagged. Lets sit down and work out a plan for a proper system of sorting out what is not notable, and waht is copyrightvio. I want to host the non notable artilces. My argument is that giving non-notable bands and actors etc an outlet to be hosted will reduce repeated reposting of articles. I have been sorting through all these articles, contacting people and many of them are thankful, I would be suprized if any of them would repost the deleted article, like the Jack Psyco from .au, someone reposted his article many many times. Please support me in cleaning up the deletion and tagging process, I am willing to put some work into this. I can write code as well. Some people have asked me not to use the mailing list, but I wanted to bring up this up in response to your mail. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mdupont/SpeedyDeletionWikia and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdupont#Speedy_backup_-_copyvios_and_attack_pages.3F thanks mike On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:00 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: I think we need to ensure that BLP deletions are tagged appropriately. and this wikia needs to err on the side of caution in order to avoid causing subjects further grief in their pursuit to remove problematic content from Wikipedia. i.e. if someone jumps through all the hoops to *help* us remove problematic content from Wikipedia, they are not going to be happy to learn that the same content has appeared on Wikia - its confusing, and they will blame Wikipedia, and IMO they are right to do so as this Wikia is run by people in the Wikimedia community, and due to the overlap in the WMF board and Wikia board, now and historically. e.g. this AFD mentioned WP:BLP1E and was categorised into AfD debates (Biographical) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alexander_Kinyua http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Alexander_Kinyua Until we are confident that BLP problems are not being imported into the wikia, the content shouldnt be indexed. I assume __NOINDEX__ works on Wikia? On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: Although I can understand the appeal of this concept, I am concerned that a deleted-articles wiki or site will perpetuate the publicity given to pages that are properly deleted from Wikipedia because they contain offensive personal attacks, harassment, cyberbullying, defamation, and BLP violations. These are not always flagged in the deletion grounds, especially in speedy situations (e.g. if a harassing or defamatory article does not assert the subject's notability, it will often be deleted on that ground without its being tagged as an attack page, etc.). This issue strikes me as extremely serious. How do you plan to address it? Newyorkbrad On 6/10/12, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). it is running on the en.wikipedia.org. the sources for the script are all on git hub and are a merger of pywikipediabot and the wikiteam codebases. hope you enjoy it, thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
The articles are hosted on archive.org, and then transfered to wikia, I could make some review tools, but where to host them? mike On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: While I think you have a good idea (similar to one that I myself did several years ago, and eventually abandoned for the very problems you're dealing with now), I don't think putting these pages directly into Wikia is going to work. If you decide to store the articles somewhere more private, at least until they are manually reviewed, let me know. By more private I mean, at a minimum, not listed in search engines. Have you looked into hosting the articles at Internet Archive? This seems like a better place than Wikia, at least before the articles are manually reviewed. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: John, and others. I have finally figured out a big problem with my plan. The articles for deletion are not tagged peoperly at all. There are authors who know for a fact that articles are mistagged and have no proper copyvio tagging, and now they are accusing me of hosting copyvio articles. I see this a problem in the wikipedia deletion system, if an editor knows for a fact that an articles is in violation of copyright then they should tag it as Such. I have written scripts to strip out artilces that are properly tagged. Lets sit down and work out a plan for a proper system of sorting out what is not notable, and waht is copyrightvio. I want to host the non notable artilces. My argument is that giving non-notable bands and actors etc an outlet to be hosted will reduce repeated reposting of articles. I have been sorting through all these articles, contacting people and many of them are thankful, I would be suprized if any of them would repost the deleted article, like the Jack Psyco from .au, someone reposted his article many many times. Please support me in cleaning up the deletion and tagging process, I am willing to put some work into this. I can write code as well. Some people have asked me not to use the mailing list, but I wanted to bring up this up in response to your mail. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mdupont/SpeedyDeletionWikia and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdupont#Speedy_backup_-_copyvios_and_attack_pages.3F thanks mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org http://flossk.orgSaving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 July 2012 22:33, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: John, and others. I have finally figured out a big problem with my plan. The articles for deletion are not tagged peoperly at all. There are authors who know for a fact that articles are mistagged and have no proper copyvio tagging, and now they are accusing me of hosting copyvio articles. I see this a problem in the wikipedia deletion system, if an editor knows for a fact that an articles is in violation of copyright then they should tag it as Such. I have written scripts to strip out artilces that are properly tagged. Lets sit down and work out a plan for a proper system of sorting out what is not notable, and waht is copyrightvio. Not going to happen. The reality is that people deleting articles are going to opt for the option that takes the least effort on their part. And A7 beats out G12 in that case. Ok, well i understand that people dont want extra work, but I think we can work on some process and software. It might happend. The other issue is that OTRS, who's opinions we care about a lot more, complain when people go the other way (deleting things as copyvios rather than going through AFD). Is there any way to tag them like that? can we mark them? -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org http://flossk.orgSaving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 7/4/12 1:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources? It would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly arguments would never arise. Thousands of apposite criticisms of Wikipedia would never arise. These are good things. Unfortunately, such a Wikipedia would also have vastly impoverished coverage of popular culture and current affairs. The articles on Lady Gaga and Barack Obama would be years behind events; the articles on the Japan earthquakes, which I believe Wikipedia was widely praised for, would only now begin to be written, articles on many towns and villages would lack colour and detail. It's an intriguing idea, and I agree with the general principle of reducing reliance on sources with less gestation time, of which newspapers are the biggest offender. I do tend to apply it in an as-alternatives-are-available The problem with articles from india, kosovo and other minor places for example is that many will be deleted because there are not many press sources online for people to check refs. mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!
Would it be possible to get copies of the older non-notable articles? I would like to add them all to speedydeletion.wikia.com thanks, mike James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with Rape in title under advertising pressure.
well i can give you copies of the scripts, the articles are still on archive org, I dont want to host them, mike On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Better would be to keep those articles, and also (at some point) to preserve TVTropes. sincerely, Kim Bruning On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 06:17:57PM +, Mike Dupont wrote: well i decided to delete them, and other articles dealing with peoples personal lives. I dont want to deal with stuff like that, mike On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well you think i should delete them from the speedydeletion wikia? http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=rapefulltext=Search mike On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Wow, thank goodness we never had advertising. The TV-Tropes wiki has been forced to censor a number of pages due to advertiser pressure. ? ? ? ?http://www.themarysue.com/tv-tropes-rape-articles/ In the mean time, the discussed tropes *do* exist in our culture and in our movies. It somehow feels soviet. :-/ sincerely, ? ? ? ?Kim Bruning -- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment] gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with Rape in title under advertising pressure.
well i decided to delete them, and other articles dealing with peoples personal lives. I dont want to deal with stuff like that, mike On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well you think i should delete them from the speedydeletion wikia? http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=rapefulltext=Search mike On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Wow, thank goodness we never had advertising. The TV-Tropes wiki has been forced to censor a number of pages due to advertiser pressure. http://www.themarysue.com/tv-tropes-rape-articles/ In the mean time, the discussed tropes *do* exist in our culture and in our movies. It somehow feels soviet. :-/ sincerely, Kim Bruning -- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Defense_League I wonder why it was not deleted yet. considering that established artists and doctors are speedily deleted, why not them? mike On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: Internet Defense League -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
Well I am not a deletionist, I am just pointing out that there is a
very strange criteria for deletion on the wikipedia, that is why i
started the speedydeletion.wikia.com
mike
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Uhm, {{sofixit}}?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Defense_League I wonder why
it was not deleted yet. considering that established artists and
doctors are speedily deleted, why not them?
mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Site
the address is http://www.wikivoyage.org/ what is the difference to wikitravel.org? well it is in german and italian, and missing information on places that are in the wikitravel. For the würzburg article it seems pretty good at first glance it seems better http://www.wikivoyage.org/de/W%C3%BCrzburg compared to http://wikitravel.org/de/W%C3%BCrzburg mike On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: The proposal for the Wikimedia Movement to take on a travel site continues to develop. The site WikiVoyage www.wikivoyage.com at their last board meeting has agreed in principle to join a WMF run site. This will mean that the WM movement has the potential ability to bring two communities of editors back together, those of WikiVoyage and those of Wikitravel. The full proposal is here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide which we hope to present to the WMF board the day before Wikimania in Washington. The outcome of the boards decision will than be announced at Wikimania. We are also planning on having an informal get together of all those interested in travel content during lunch on July 12th at Wikimania (13:00 to 14:00). -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
Well, lets see the speedy deletion wiki was just launched, 15 December 2010 it was deleted. I will have to make a plan for getting older articles, they would be possible to get, but it is outside of our time window right now. mike On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm actually really shocked that the speedy deletion wiki doesn't have a copy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Juclandia - there's an excellent version of the article on http://microwiki.org.uk/index.php?title=Juclandia , though, so all is not lost. [it seems to be a monstrously elaborate page about some kid's bedroom kingdom, by the way.] But seriously, my point is that you don't need to pick up the crumbs that are swept off Wikipedia's table to allow people the space to indulge their creative spirits. There are other wikis that will open their doors. David -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
ok kim, thanks again for your constructive feedback, and thanks to everyone who has given input. It is great to have a supportive group of people like you to talk to. now i have upgraded the code, including templates and full history. It gets all new articles not seen before every 10 minutes. Also the uploading to the wikia is working but without the history. I think this is a good deal. for the articles that we dont have the history for, people can ask an admin for restoring the history if they really want it, I dont have it for the old articles. Here is an example new dump : http://archive.org/download/wikipedia-delete-2012-06/wtarchive130612111041.zip code is here github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot and github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/wikiteam mike On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: yes, good point, and while checking this I found a problem. it turns out that up to now I dont have the full history, I have modified the extractor to pull the full version. For the other articles, I dont have the full history. mike On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nlwrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote: Hi, Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no one is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as being from wikipedia. ps. It occurs to me that if the full history is available on archive.org, that linking to the relevant archive.org data might be adequate. sincerely, Kim Bruning ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
yes, good point, and while checking this I found a problem. it turns out that up to now I dont have the full history, I have modified the extractor to pull the full version. For the other articles, I dont have the full history. mike On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 05:44:40AM +, Mike Dupont wrote: Hi, Again the full history is available on archive.org and i think that no one is going to think that this data is from me, it is clearly marked as being from wikipedia. ps. It occurs to me that if the full history is available on archive.org, that linking to the relevant archive.org data might be adequate. sincerely, Kim Bruning ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
Hi, I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). it is running on the en.wikipedia.org. the sources for the script are all on git hub and are a merger of pywikipediabot and the wikiteam codebases. hope you enjoy it, thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
well originally i wanted just not notable, but i was interested in hoaxes personally. let me see, http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=hoaxfulltext=Search http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=hoaxfulltext=Searchthey are clearly marked and might contain something interesting some day thanks, mike On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Not quite - Mike says that it is updated...with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, *not others*). Non-notable articles are arguably important to keep - they serve as a basis for recreating the articles in future, and for easy review by non-admins. Hoaxes are also important to keep publicy viewable - so that we can stop similar ones happening again, surely? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 10 June 2012 18:29, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/6/10 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). Speedydeleted articles are either no articles at all, thus not worth discussing, or they are copyright infrigements. I am sorry to say that I do not happen to understand why you collect those pages in a separate wiki. Regards, Jürgen. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright
What I really find upsetting is that PBS produces videos that cannot be watched out side of the states, it really upsets me. Also in germany, it is just unbearable, these copyright trolls called GEMA take away all the fun of youtube. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: FWIW, I'd like to see things being released more freely internationally, irrespective of copyright. At present, I can either pirate the Colbert Report, or watch it through a proxy using a US netflix account which I pay for using a US bank account. It isn't shown anywhere in the UK. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 21 May 2012 16:35, Mike Linksvayer m...@gondwanaland.com wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:31 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2012 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: So, is the time ripe yet for us to start pushing for a 14-year term, or do we wait a bit? I suggest we start contemplating it, however. The most pirated bit of content at the moment appears to be game of thrones so I'm not sure what 14 years has to do with anything. 0 years best, but I think some unauthorized sharing data could support a merely shorter term -- recent, popular titles are the most shared titles, but older titles constitute bulk of sharing, and presumably most in need of distributed curation. That was my takeway from http://ijoc.org/ojs/index.php/ijoc/article/view/1261/712 which admittedly only looks at some Hungarian filesharing networks. I'd be mildly surprised if similar didn't hold true worldwide. Mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )
Hello People, I have completed my first set in uploading the osm/fosm dataset (350gb unpacked) to archive.org http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.de/2012/05/upload-finished.html We can do something similar with wikipedia, the bucket size of archive.org is 10gb, we need to split up the data in a way that it is useful. I have done this by putting each object on one line and each file contains the full data records and the parts that belong to the previous block and next block, so you are able to process the blocks almost stand alone. mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:06 AM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: If your willing to foot the bill for the new hardware Ill gladly prove my point given the millions of dollars that wikipedia has, it should not be a problem to provide such resources for a good cause like that. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )
Well to be honest, I am still upset about how much data is deleted from wikipedia because it is not notable, there are so many articles that I might be interested in that are lost in the same garbage as spam and other things. We should make non notable articles and non harmful ones available in the backups as well. mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:11:04PM -0400, John wrote: I know from experience that a wiki can be re-built from any one of the dumps that are provided, (pages-meta-current) for example contains everything needed to reboot a site except its user database (names/passwords ect). see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki Sure. Does this include all images, including commons images, eventually converted to operate locally? I'm thinking about full snapshot-and-later-restore, say 25 or 50 years from now, or in an academic setting, (or FSM-forbid in a worst case scenario knock on wood). That's what the AT folks are most interested in. ==Fire Drill== Has anyone recently set up a full-external-duplicate of (for instance) en.wp? This includes all images, all discussions, all page history (excepting the user accounts and deleted pages) This would be a useful and important exercise; possibly to be repeated once per year. I get a sneaky feeling that the first few iterations won't go so well. I'm sure AT would be glad to help out with the running of these fire drills, as it seems to be in line with their mission. sincerely, Kim Bruning ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Carmen yarru...@charter.net wrote: The WMF should stop pretending it's politically neutral (NPOV). +1 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Write about Wikipedia Zero!
Arianit Dobroshi has been working on getting free access in kosovo from ipko, mike On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: I mentioned Wikipedia Zero in the last few talks that I gave about Wikidata, and I always got great feedback on that part. I agree with SJ that this is an amazing initiative that should be known better! 2012/4/29 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently. We could use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or schools on board. Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign. It's really a very sexy project. We could frame it as something universal: free access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks. This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been encouraging people to link to it in their posts. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero SJ -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 2 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia
Yes, I also found it upsetting, but I decided to bring this topic up as someone had sent it to me, and thought that it is better that we know about what is going on before it hits us and we dont know about it. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: I find this context upsetting regardless of the points being raised. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Oxford University, Vatican libraries to digitize works
Trying to Search the index http://www.vatican.va/library_archives/vat_library/index.htm give a dead link http://bav.vatican.va/en/v_home_bav/home_bav.shtml the index of the secret (not really secret http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Secret_Archives) http://www.vatican.va/library_archives/vat_secret_archives/index.htm goes to some page are there any public indexs of documents available? thanks, mike On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/11/net-us-vatican-oxford-digital-idUSBRE83A1HF20120411 Can we arrange to get copies of this stuff without fuss? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
