Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-07-31 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On 7/31/2013 3:31 PM, Nathan wrote: And another thought - you know what unites most of the other companies represented by the logos in that image? Leaks have confirmed that most of them are the subject of secret

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary opt-out

2013-08-05 Thread Nathan
the option to edit in the traditional manner. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-06 Thread Nathan
You argued that a North American bias, or differences between American culture and that of Europe and elsewhere, might be part of the problem in why the VE is getting a backlash on projects for European languages. I'll take on faith that anti-Americanism doesn't explain why you jump to this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-14 Thread Nathan
YMMV, but I'd prefer if the solid value returned from my donation went to someone in more dire need of it - i.e. if my donation could be used to directly improve access for others who may not enjoy it. Indirectly any donation to Wikimedia fits into the vein of sustaining access to project content,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please do set me straight. You're not wrong, but getting the attention of a federal prosecutor would be easier for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-21 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote: The account and/or underlying IP is blocked. That is the technical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type blog, what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com wrote: At least OTRS and mailman belong inside our security bubble of control, where the only people with access are ops and they can be properly secured. The security risk of those applications potentially introducing and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images

2013-09-17 Thread Nathan
Maybe they don't own the images outright from a legal perspective, but certainly ethics (and particularly medical ethics) is moving in the direction of securing permission from the subject of the images before they are used for purposes other than treatment. Documenting this kind of permission in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images

2013-09-17 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Joseph Chirum sundog...@yahoo.com wrote: If it were Art, the copyright would be clearly defined. If it is technical craft in the medical field, such images fall unto another category all together. Any display of such images would need the patient consent to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images

2013-09-17 Thread Nathan
I think the question of who owns the copyright is just plain unsettled law. Debating it here isn't going to resolve an issue that is, in the legal realm, unresolved. My own guess is that the organization employing the people performing the imaging likely owns the copyright barring agreements

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Nathan
Simple solution - until someone else volunteers to host the conference, just have it in the same place every year. You can work out distribution of funding independently from where it is actually held. Since WMDE seems to be in the driver seat, having a backup plan of a conference in Germany seems

Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo

2013-09-21 Thread Nathan
Doesn't it seem a little unnecessarily confusing to have the same discussion copied, piece by piece, on to two separate talk pages? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo Message-ID

2013-10-09 Thread Nathan
I think saying these two individuals is meant to point up the fact that they aren't representing a bloc or group or organization in the movement; they are individuals. I don't see it as depersonalizing. People should focus on the core debate here, and not get distracted going down every avenue of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

2013-10-14 Thread Nathan
Thanks for the pointer, Tomasz. I made a couple of points I'll reiterate here: 1) Under Secure and Confidential Storage this is a sentence describing how the WMF will share / release the information submitted by volunteers. Part A allows the WMF to disclose the information to third parties with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

2013-10-15 Thread Nathan
would engage while members of the community are also engaged, so that it is truly a discussion and not people talking past each other at different moments in time. Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi, I've been aware of this brewing, but can only say that I'm pleased to finally reach the surface. There is no good reason for part of the WMF's budget to be privileged or quarantined from the same scrutiny

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

2013-10-26 Thread Nathan
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.comwrote: As for I, I have totally given up with the idea of preservation of confidential data when the US are somehow involved (if the NSA is already involved in recording German president phone conversations or French

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-10-28 Thread Nathan
a request?). Thanks, Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hours for VisualEditor

2013-10-30 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.orgwrote: On 10/30/2013 11:20 AM, Risker wrote: Just to clarify, since UTC is a confusing time for most of us {{cn}} I've heard that said very often (that 00:00 is somehow confusing to many people), but I've yet to

[Wikimedia-l] First Wikimedia-related contributor Kickstarter?

2013-11-01 Thread Nathan
A post is live on Gizmodo today about a Commons contributor (Evan-Amos) who takes high quality photos of video game systems and hardware.[1] Towards the end it mentions that Evan started a Kickstarter to fund his efforts to buy and photograph more systems as part of an online museum.[2] Anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikimedia-related contributor Kickstarter?

2013-11-01 Thread Nathan
I think this particular campaign seems to be really well structured, which is clearly part of why it has such substantial support. But as a general rule, not all Kickstarters are created equal - yet many attract money regardless. Now that this new trend is kicked off, I'm a little concerned about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-13 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Marco: I agree, we had also issues on the Dutch Wikipedia - these have been around for ages, the English Wikipedia is just less aware of them. Not sure if you meant this how it sounds, but the English Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-13 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.comwrote: On 11/13/2013 10:39 AM, Nathan wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Marco: I agree, we had also issues on the Dutch Wikipedia - these have been around for ages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

2013-11-20 Thread Nathan
I feel like there is some context missing from this thread To me it looks like five replies to an e-mail from a few weeks ago that wasn't sent to the list? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

2013-11-20 Thread Nathan
I think it would be better to reformulate it into book format and make it available as an e-book, for free download either directly from Wikimedia or other outlets like iTunes or Amazon. That would be searchable, and I don't know that hosting it in wiki form provides any benefits. Certainly as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser Launch Today

2013-12-02 Thread Nathan
Hi Megan, quick question - when the campaign goal is hit, will the fundraising campaign return to the low profile version you now run year-round? Or will the banners stay up until a specific ending date? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising: are we trying what we tried on July 30?

2013-12-09 Thread Nathan
If the number of donations and the total amount donated stayed the same, how did the amount of the average donation spike by a factor of 10? Looks like a data glitch, not some special strategy. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still very interested in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-10 Thread Nathan
I'm a little skeptical about the charitable nature of Bitpay's offer to hold funds for the WMF. It doesn't help that they refer to Wikipedia's bank accounts, but in the absence of other evidence I suspect that Bitpay is taking advantage of the volatility of Bitcoin exchange rates to profit from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-10 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote: That assumes that [Bitpay] are, in fact, forwarding donations at all. We have received some funds from them. ~Matt Walker Wikimedia Foundation Fundraising Technology Team Thanks Matt. I'm still concerned that they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-11 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinon this whole bitcoin debate is framed incorrectly. The question is not if it should be accepted or not, but which parameters make any currency or payment method acceptable. If I had to name a few, I would say:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Round 2 FDC/annual plan grants timeline moved out by a month: proposals due April 1, 2014

2013-12-18 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: I would like to note that this is highly irregular, biased, and unfair. Last year, Wikimedia India had formally requested for similar concessions during FDC Round 2 of 2012-13 and were denied the same and we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

2013-12-20 Thread Nathan
agreements between WMF and other Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd? Thanks, Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

2013-12-30 Thread Nathan
it should be elsewhere, it is probably unnecessary to remind us again. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-05 Thread Nathan
Let's be clear, Russavia - the terms of use bar sockpuppetry, and the cease and desist refers to concealing the identity of the author to deceive the editing community. I don't see that you've accused Sarah of sockpuppetry, so why not cut the bullshit? Thanks for notifying Wiki-PR, by the way, I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-06 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, Nathan, please let us cut the bullshit, for I have a pretty low tolerance for it, and I am happy to call you out on it. You are right, I don't see anywhere in Odder's blog or in my posts on this list that Sarah

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-06 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Nathan, I am unable to find a mention of sockpuppetry in the Terms of Use, whether in Section 4 or elsewhere. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use I don't think there could be such a mention, really, given

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-08 Thread Nathan
We should thank them for editing using a major banner, a la the fundraiser. I don't know why we do huge fundraising drives but seem to neglect editing drives, even though editing is really the core way for people to donate to Wikimedia. ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-08 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net wrote: * Nathan wrote: We should thank them for editing using a major banner, a la the fundraiser. I don't know why we do huge fundraising drives but seem to neglect editing drives, even though editing is really the core way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement Sarah Stierch

2014-01-08 Thread Nathan
You know what, I think this outcome is not just disappointing, it's positively astounding. I have a lot that I could say about it, but I can't imagine what the point of saying it could possibly be. Chalk one up for the trolls. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Basic income Wikimedians

2014-01-09 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: If a basic income is implemented somewhere in the world, people will have more time for themselves in mean (probably more partial-time work), so they will have more time to edit the Wikimedia projects, among other possible

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-10 Thread Nathan
I think we should just thank everyone, on at least a yearly basis, with a thank you drive similar to what we do for fundraising. It doesn't need to be for a specific edit or tied to any one IP. After the fundraiser hits the goal we usually run it a little with a thank you banner, and if we did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Nathan
Thanks to WMDE for the thoughtful and very interesting feedback to the FDC. As an observer but not a participant, I found it very helpful in organizing and restating the criticism we've all read about the FDC process. The statement is highly constructive, and I understand why it doesn't get into

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Nathan
There's an article about the debate up from yesterday on Ars: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/wikimedia-considers-supporting-h-264-to-boost-accessibility-content/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Nathan
One thing that hasn't come up in the debate is the relative importance of Wikimedia's approach to video, given the existing video ecosystem. YouTube enables cc-by uploading and has 4 million videos with a free license, and 6.5 million videos that are explicitly educational. Are we sure focusing on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that hasn't come up in the debate is the relative importance of Wikimedia's approach to video, given the existing video ecosystem. YouTube enables cc-by uploading and has 4 million videos with a free license, and 6.5

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what debate you're referring to. If it's about whether video belongs in Wikipedia, I don't think it's even in question. Wikipedia started in 2001 as all text. It didn't have photos then, we now have photos.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: Ah. Well if you're not even buying into the legitimacy of photos on Commons, I'm not sure there's a way to have a productive discussion about video. -Andrew No, I think the vast repository of images, properly curated,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL Board members withdraw from international activities

2014-02-03 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Nathan, Allow me to correct - WMIL is not withdrawing from international activities. For example, WMIL will probably going to be one of the leading chapters supporting WLE, and many others international projects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

2014-02-11 Thread Nathan
of money. Since the list archives form a public record and not all list subscribers know everyone else, it would be very helpful if posters considered including this kind of a disclosure in posts where it may be meaningful. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

2014-02-11 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.comwrote: Le 12 févr. 2014 00:10, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com a écrit : Well, it's actually pretty straightforward. For members of the Board of Trustees, FDC and AffCom, as well as Board members of all Chapters. All of us

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

2014-02-11 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you misunderstood what I was wondering about, which is probably my fault as I was trying to avoid giving any specific examples. But without at all attempting to disparage her or suggest that her intentions are anything

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Nathan
, that is not the policy of this list. Wishing a safe and healthy life to all Ukrainians during their time of turmoil. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Nathan
Is there a way to incorporate the local policy by reference into the TOU, something like The Wikimedia Foundation requires that all users being paid to contribute follow the disclosure, conflict or related applicable policy on each project where said users contribute.? Might that be a solution to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

2014-02-24 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: The archives were rebuilt (and then restored up to January) under request of a user who shared private information in February. Old links are not broken and you can normally access the specific volumes:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l archives

2014-02-24 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote: Hear that sound? That's the sound of a million data miners working to figure out what juicy bit of info has been redacted. Cheers, Craig Found it: http://bit.ly/1fsZjVI

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plz ignore again

2014-02-25 Thread Nathan
So the lesson here is that list archives should not be messed with. I don't think that is news, I seem to remember hearing about the havoc potentially caused by selectively editing list archives many years ago and once in awhile ever since. ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-27 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:56 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 February 2014 22:03, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: We remain convinced that something is fundamentally wrong when its practical result is self-inflicting the highest possible loss of contents. And we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-03-03 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Stryn@Wikimedia strynw...@gmail.com wrote: The corrected report seems to be http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/03/02/5152/Report-submitted-to-police-duly,-says-Wikimedia Regards, *Stryn* Wow, that's one hell of a correction. Good on Finland Times.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More new editors?

2014-03-07 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: We've tried this before and so far it hasn't worked very well. See results from 2012-13 at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Donor_engagement/Thank_You_campaign Generally speaking, we're moving away from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2014-03-10 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: sarcasm Wow, we've made an entire 1.6k out of bitcoin? This totally seems like the highest-value way to spend our time! Thanks, Bitcoin! I'm sure that the value of these items won't wildly vary in short spaces of time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Nathan
or interrogatory tone towards WMF employees is probably not helpful, as it rarely is in professional communication. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Setting ticket prices

2014-03-23 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:35 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: as i overrun my monthly limit of mails allowed on this list already, and i do not want an unrelated discussion on a public mailing list, this in private: nathan, would you be so kind to invest a little bit more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Setting ticket prices

2014-03-24 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:19 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.comwrote: IMO if Nathan felt that a peaceful and private resolution couldnt or shouldnt be achieved via one-on-one email exchange, I think the appropriate response is to forward it privately to the list admins. Rupert should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF's April Fool's Joke?

2014-04-03 Thread Nathan
Which part do you think is a joke? The same notice is posted on all the proposal forms. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Nathan
I agree with Mike Peel on 'maybe' - I think donations from the WMF to non-profit organizations could be great and very useful, but that the WMF should 1) ensure that the donations have a substantial impact (i.e. not $500 to ICRC, where WMF funds would get lost in a sea of other contributors), 2)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Nathan
Many of the chapters are still in startup mode - a challenge that the WMF should avoid when targeting organizations for sponsorship or donation. Perhaps more saliently, OSM, MariaDB, Internet Archive etc. are not representing the Wikimedia movement, aren't using Wikimedia trademarks, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: snip In February 2010, either shortly before or during his application for a top level executive position as Chief Community Officer, Zack created[1] a user page with the following content: Mainly, I just fix typos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: Preferable for the affiliation to be a variable linked to the username. It can then be changed if/when applicable. Is should be possible to link a string of affiliations to a username. User should be able to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 04/21/2014 12:07 PM, Nathan wrote: Of the 120 staffers that don't have a staff account, how many have accounts with (WMF) in the username - or accounts at all? I honestly do not know the numbers, though I'd wager

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 04/21/2014 12:07 PM, Nathan wrote: Of the 120 staffers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The upcoming TOU amendment

2014-04-21 Thread Nathan
activities. Of course all this serves to support part of Pete's point in his blog post; transparency is tough to successfully mandate, and hardly solves all of the inherent issues surrounding for-profit engagement with Wikimedia content. ~Nathan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

2014-04-22 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years. I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Assessing this round of FDC proposals, including the WMF's proposal

2014-04-27 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Hi Risker, On 27 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: However, having accepted the validity of the proposal, the FDC does not have the authority to delegate its role. I think you're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] general strategic goals

2014-05-05 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:46 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2014-01-31#Strategy_discussion The Board discussed how they will develop the process for the next strategic plan. The Board would like the strategic planning process

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-05-06 Thread Nathan
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I want to point out something that stands out to me. This is not an outright contradiction, but it's a puzzling contrast. In an unrelated thread on this email list, Executive Director Sue Gardner recently said:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-07 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 May 2014 23:14, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, there was a recent external study of Wikipedia's medical content that came to unflattering results:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-07 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'd like the Foundation to invest in such research, which is why I brought it up here. I cant think of several instances of donors' money being spent on things that to me seemed less supportive of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-07 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I'm a total newb here, and I know the grant system between WMF and the different chapters has been debated in the past. But I have a simple question: if WMF is funding these efforts through grants and the grant money is used to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-07 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I looked at WMF's grant page here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants. I don't see any mention of grants for academic research. Does the WMF give such grants? If not, why not? ,Wil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-07 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I imagine this isn't the first time someone has thrown something like this in to the Wikipedosphere. If so, what did people think? If not, what do you guys think? :) ,Wil I think it sounds a little bit like wikidata.org,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defining impact for Wikimedia programs, grants and evaluation

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Edward Galvez egal...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi Pine, Thank you for your bringing this page to our attention and for raising these interesting questions. I would have to agree that the “Program evaluation basics” page is not well-designed and should be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2014 00:14, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I did give serious consideration to going and properly categorizing the image, but given the underlying threat from Russavia, and my disinclination to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:16 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: I'll be leaving Commons categorisation until it's tags rather than ridiculously specific subcategories. Commons has tags right now: they're called categories. Or is there a distinction you're making?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Nathan wrote: Sure - ease of use for tagging and the sometimes complex hierarchical nature of categories. For ease of use (adding and removing), I think most wikis have HotCat (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/HotCat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-renewal of Wikimedia UK fundraiser agreement

2014-05-21 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2014 13:19, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: ... 2. Probably not. See

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

2014-05-23 Thread Nathan
comment or a bit of strong language. Lastly, standard Internet comment on free speech: Your legal right to free speech is not a protection against criticism or a limit in any other way on what others can say to or about you. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

2014-05-25 Thread Nathan
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: And this conversation is getting pretty repetitive, isn't it? Yep! Remember that some of the harsher reactions here have more to do with WR/WO than you. Hope the long string of uniformly negative reactions on the list haven't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Markus Glaser markus.gla...@wikimedia.dewrote: Am 27.05.2014 15:18, schrieb Andy Mabbett: On 26 May 2014 13:38, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: The wording regarding the quorum to hold an exceptional general assembly has been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
FYI - Here is the previous thread on this list about this study / topic: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/460005?do=post_view_threaded ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Markus Glaser markus.gla...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hi Nathan, I put my answers inline. Am 27.05.2014 16:18, schrieb Nathan: The fees are the same for either type of member, 24 euros per year? Yes. Double the term length of the supervisory board, A term

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries

2014-05-27 Thread Nathan
That's a weird content architecture, right there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_physician

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement

2014-05-28 Thread Nathan
Welcome Rachel! Erik (or someone else), is there a succinct description of the mission of the Community Engagement and Community Advocacy departments, and/or especially a summary of the difference between their roles? Your e-mail from December included some of this information, I'm just curious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread Nathan
appreciate that you have made it clear you've seen the threads of the last few weeks and understand the concerns that posters have described. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement

2014-05-28 Thread Nathan
Perfect. Thanks as always Philippe for being awesome. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-28 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Nathan, I was responding to Lila's note to clarify that I had made the decision to not discuss anything privately with any WMF employee. The IRC discussion was referenced by Fae, so I sent a link to the discussion so everyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-29 Thread Nathan
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: Wil, Just for the record, hands-off is the best way to describe our approach to wikimedia-l moderation. We (the administrators) sometimes step in when a thread or a poster gets way out of control, but for this list, that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Nathan
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sam, If all the steps could happen at the same time, and decisions were made by a single person, then the process could indeed be done in 30 minutes under ideal circumstances (a person being 24/7 online, and all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1 - user privacy

2014-05-29 Thread Nathan
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Lila, My read of the *new* Privacy Policy is that nonpublic emails sent to WMF should remain nonpublic unless the user gives consent to the contrary. The policy states that We may share your information for a

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