Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

There seems to be a trend on the part of the WMF, however, both to try to control onwiki Wikimedia communities (wiki.en current case), and at the same time divert part of the communities to closed platforms under direct or indirect WMF control. I'm also not sure anymore that Wikimedia volunteers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

open > another thread. > > Thank you, > Camelia > > > > > > > > > > > Il giorno ven 21 giu 2019 alle ore 16:05 Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> False accusation with the respective punishment, that is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

False accusation with the respective punishment, that is. If it was just a false accusation I would not care that much about it, though I obviously dislike being falsely accused. Paulo A sexta, 21 de jun de 2019, 15:01, Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> escreveu: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

trained and responsible professionals over > the popularity contests of the mob any day. > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 4:56 AM Paulo Santos Perneta > wrote: > > > > Taking everything and their dog as "harassment", without due process to > > verify it, and iss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

Taking everything and their dog as "harassment", without due process to verify it, and issuing punishments one can't appeal based on that, creates a feeling of fear and insecurity in the events; and provides a tool easy to abuse by clever persons who understood how to game the system, as a vehicle

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

I am very sad and depressed with this outcome, especially with someone as Romaine, which I am quite lucky to know personally. And it is very true that now one has to have eyes in their back and be extra careful when going to WMF run events, as the risk of abuse of T is quite real. Dangerous

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

end of story, if not for the T interference. Paulo Dariusz Jemielniak escreveu no dia segunda, 17/06/2019 à(s) 16:04: > Hi Paulo, > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:54 PM Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > " I'm referring to message from Caroline" - How have you jumpe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

er words, the best way to ban anyone from any event is to start a > rumour about them? > > My understanding is that noone was banned from an event. > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com<mailto:paulospern...@gmail.com>> wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

if people are killed or physically hurt? Paulo Amir Sarabadani escreveu no dia segunda, 17/06/2019 à(s) 15:36: > Are you comparing banning someone to participate at conference(s) with > hanging innocent people? > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:34 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > pa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

" In other words, the best way to ban anyone from any event is to start a rumour about them" - that's Wikimedia version of the Salem witch trials. Unbelievable that this sort of thing is coming from one of the WMF trustees, even as a personal opinion. Paulo Michel Vuijlsteke escreveu no dia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

Dariusz, I've read and reread the WMBE message, and have not found anything near "pushing people who felt harassed or mistreated to step forward". I also do not understand why you're addressing WMBE as "Romaine" (begging the question?). Can you please clarify? Paulo Dariusz Jemielniak

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Health, Roles & Responsibilities

What is that "strategic direction", and where was it agreed? Paulo Peter Southwood escreveu no dia segunda, 17/06/2019 à(s) 08:20: > " Previously a strategic direction has been agreed." > Not by that many. It is so vague that it can be interpreted to mean > whatever the WMF want it to mean and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Health, Roles & Responsibilities

How is banning an user for 1 year for secrete reasons a "bold step"? What's the educative value of it? How does it advance any of those strategic objectives you mention there? Paulo Ad Huikeshoven escreveu no dia domingo, 16/06/2019 à(s) 22:03: > We are in a turbulent episode on this mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

ng banned from a website > over bad conduct issues. You need not reply -- I'm done with this portion > of the conversation. > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 1:03 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have never said that this is a human rights violation, s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

penal offenses." Unless > Fram is getting locked up in prison for his actions, let's drop the absurd > hyperbole that this is somehow a human rights violation. > > > Dan Rosenthal > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:35 AM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

People shouldn't be going with any random option, but rather presume the innocence of others unless guilt is proven by some legit process. It seems that this very basic principle of Human Rights and dignity is being forgotten. There is not the least appearance of due process happening there, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

Both systems are horrible. Secret trials punishing people who don't even know they are being accused, and of what they are being accused, without any chance to appeal afterwards, are nothing short of horrible and inhumane. That, yes, is plain harassment against the victims of those secret trials.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

At this point, it certainly looks like that. That, and the "f*** Arbcom" thing. If you know otherwise, please explain. Paulo David Gerard escreveu no dia sexta, 14/06/2019 à(s) 11:37: > and you're *seriously* positing that the WMF would ban an admin for > doing only what you describe? > > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

r a system that we design or agree to implement. > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > P.S. I need to stop posting in this thread so that I do not exceed my limit > of Wikimedia-l posts for the month, but my silence does not indicate lack > of interest. > > > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

No idea what could be the relation with GamerGate and the current issue onwiki at wiki en. Would you care to elaborate? Paulo A quinta, 13 de jun de 2019, 19:53, David Gerard escreveu: > I think the problem is that the pathological people, having been > called out on being pathological,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

The inapposite and totally inapt intervention of the WMF, a la bull in a china shop, caused a Streisand effect on the alleged harassment that is stated to have take place. I do not knew the editor which has been pointed as the source of the denounce, or if she has made any denounce at all, but I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

lly are Gamergaters, > including editors with tools. > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 3:15 AM Chris Keating > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Going there dismissing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

and inflammatory comments does not seem like the wisest thing to do. Paulo A quinta, 13 de jun de 2019, 08:15, Chris Keating < chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> escreveu: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Going there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

Going there dismissing the whole issue as a sexist mob doing GamerGate kind of stuff, what was she expecting, really. Paulo A quarta, 12 de jun de 2019, 22:39, Chris Keating < chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > So, pretty much every discussion is decided by those who choose to > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

like all the aggressiveness I am seeing at wiki.en,but I can understand the revolt. I do hope things improve. Paulo A quarta, 12 de jun de 2019, 18:47, Robert Fernandez escreveu: > The board, including its community representatives. > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 1:38 PM Paulo Santos Perneta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

aroslav > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:46 PM Amir Sarabadani < > ladsgr...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > People who oppose the ban: Are you aware of all aspects and > things Fram >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

the case there. Paulo A quarta, 12 de jun de 2019, 14:51, Robert Fernandez escreveu: > Because the English Wikipedia community is a garbage fire, and is > hellbent on demonstrating that this week. > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 9:16 AM Paulo Santos Perneta > wrote: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

ither can support or oppose the ban. As > > > simple as that. > > > > > > So what should be done IMO. If enwiki wants to know more, a community > > body > > > can ask for more information, if body satisfy two things: > > > - They had signed NDA not to disclo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

of this particular ban but I believe WMF > took the best decision in banning Fram considering the Foundation has acted > approximately in dealing with similar issues in the past. > > Regards, > > Isaac > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 2:58 PM Paulo Santos Perneta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

Lack of transparency from the WMF, whatelse is new. I'm currently under a funding ban secretly decided (by who?) based on a false accusation, without providing any evidence. Until now I'm waiting for an explanation from the WMF. So, this sort of attitude doesn't surprise me at all. It is very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Grupo de Usuários Wiki Movimento Brasil

Hey, The affiliate was originally formed in 2008 as the wannabe chapter Wikimedia Brasil, and made its life as a chapter until 2010 when it was noticed that it was not incorporated nor had any intention of becoming incorporated, and the whole thing was canceled. Some of its members and new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Grupo de Usuários Wiki Movimento Brasil

ng to ensure there isn't a repeat > of past breakdowns in community cooperation? > > Kind regards > > Seddon > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:50 AM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I would like to correc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Grupo de Usuários Wiki Movimento Brasil

iki/Muj(lh)eres_latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia Best, Paulo Paulo Santos Perneta escreveu no dia quinta, 30/05/2019 à(s) 15:40: > Wonderful news! > Brazil has been for long one of the world leaders in Wikimedia educational > projects, with an excellent work on GLAMs, often in line wit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kedu ihe na-eme gị obi ụtọ n'izu a? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 26 May 2019)

What is making me happy this week: - Helping the NOVA SBE library organizing this great event scheduled for next week: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikidataDays_2019_Lisbon - UG Wiki Movimento Brasil being recognized as a Wikimedia affiliate:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Grupo de Usuários Wiki Movimento Brasil

Wonderful news! Brazil has been for long one of the world leaders in Wikimedia educational projects, with an excellent work on GLAMs, often in line with the educational projects, and generally with full Wikidata integration. It is very rewarding to see the group recognized again as a full-right

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikidata Days 2019 - Portugal

the Wikimedia Foundation and the Wiki Movimento Brasil. Atenciosamente, Paulo Santos Perneta Wikimedia Portugal ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia commu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback requested for draft code of conduct for user group

Hi Mister Thrapostibongles, I would believe so. However, after knowing a case where a WMF staff was fired after their denounce of such a situation caused a fuss in the target community, I'm not so sure the WMF shares that understanding. Until there is some strong standing from the WMF about such

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback requested for draft code of conduct for user group

Hi Shani, I'm curious if non discriminating anyone politically could imply a group or community being forced to accept people from the extreme right or the likes of it, with public (but not onwiki) views against migration, promoting racial discrimination, and revisionism, for instance? This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interpretation of CC NC from SUISA

The idea that NC is "open and free" is growing like a cancer in Brazil and Portugal. I've been noticing that for some time already, and I do believe we as a Movement should have some sort of plan or strategy to fight that - and never indulge in accepting NC as a valid license for the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interpretation of CC NC from SUISA

Where would it fit in Strategy 2030? Advocacy? Paulo James Heilman escreveu no dia segunda, 20/05/2019 à(s) 05:41: > We all agree NC licenses are poor. The WMF position was a reflection of the > community's position at the time and this likely remains the community's > position today. > > If

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Tchad

Welcome on board, Chade! :D Paulo KuboF Hromoslav escreveu no dia domingo, 19/05/2019 à(s) 15:33: > Great to have you here, Chadians! > > KuboF Hromoslav > Esperanto and Free Knowledge > > Dňa so, 18. máj 2019 17:46 Kirill Lokshin > napísal(a): > >> Hi everyone! >> >> I'm very happy to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group

Congratulations, I'm very happy to see another community UG from Africa in the Wikimedia map. Welcome Bénin! :D Paulo Aboubacar Keïta escreveu no dia quarta, 15/05/2019 à(s) 01:24: > Félicitations et bien venue a la grande maison de connaissance libre > > Le lun. 13 mai 2019 à 10:59, Bobby

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reunião de Direcção sábado

Sorry, second message in 2 weeks or so that wrongly makes it to this list, due to a similar address name. Fixed now, hopefully... :\ Paulo Paulo Santos Perneta escreveu no dia terça, 14/05/2019 à(s) 20:51: > Olá, > > É essencial que façamos uma reunião de direcção o mais b

[Wikimedia-l] Reunião de Direcção sábado

Olá, É essencial que façamos uma reunião de direcção o mais brevemente possível, para tratar destes assuntos: - Votação para o conselho de administração da WMF (escolha dos candidatos q apoiamos) - Aplicação aos Strategy Salons para discussão da Estratégia 2030 ao nível de afiliado

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

Nah, of course they do. We are using filters at the Portuguese Wikipedia since 2009, and I can say, without blinking, that if it was not for filters, IPs would have ceased to be allowed to edit at all there for good now, so much it is the amount of IP vandalism that they automatically catch and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

1: > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:10 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > As a Commoner, I can tell we certainly are, James, please apply here: > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators > > > > Even if your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

s interested. > > James > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 4:00 AM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Wikimedia project communities in general seem to be quite stagnant, if > not > > declining, apart from Wikidata, which is and always will be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

In my view it has not that much to do with AGF. In general people at Commons do assume good faith, or at least they should. But when an user uploads a mix of own work with copyvios, or a GLAM shows a complete lack of understanding on copyright laws (by uploading modern art, for instance, claiming

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

Wikimedia project communities in general seem to be quite stagnant, if not declining, apart from Wikidata, which is and always will be a whole different case. In the case of Commons it was already very much as it is now when I joined in 2009. I always found it a very pleasant place, but overtime I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

; > Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an > > > efficient way. > > > > > > Vito > > > > > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta < > > > paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

that are Caesar's. Paulo Vi to escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s) 21:13: > Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an > efficient way. > > Vito > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

This is true. I verified and restored almost all the files. There was one or two problems with students who uploaded an occasional derivative work (integrated in their own work), but almost all the files were OK, and correctly uploaded. The main problem here, IMO, was marking sourced stuff as "no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

A large part of the problem is the disconnection between online and offline communities or types of users. It is quite counterproductive having affiliates, outreach programs, whatever, reaching out to people out to the Wikimediaverse inviting them to use our projects without having any plans or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily has - and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary skills to deal with copyright. Best, Paulo A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to escreveu: > I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] W Greenhouse - final week for applications, video guide and "Hit Submit!" virtual sessions!

Sorry for the duplicate, this forward was meant to our general list at Wikimedia Portugal, not here :\. Paulo Santos Perneta escreveu no dia terça, 7/05/2019 à(s) 23:35: > > > -- Forwarded message - > De: Melissa Guadalupe Huertas > Date: terça, 7/05/2019 à(s)

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Education] W Greenhouse - final week for applications, video guide and "Hit Submit!" virtual sessions!

-- Forwarded message - De: Melissa Guadalupe Huertas Date: terça, 7/05/2019 à(s) 22:36 Subject: [Wikimedia Education] W Greenhouse - final week for applications, video guide and "Hit Submit!" virtual sessions! To: , , Wikipedia & Education User Group Hola Wikimedia and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who oversees the AffCom?

Ikuta wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with this specific situation, but I agree that more > > transparency and accountability would be good. > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who oversees the AffCom?

ails. > > Best > James > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Tomasz, > > > > Thank you very much for the information. It is quite unexpected that the > > Board of Trustees can'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who oversees the AffCom?

y legally responsible for the work of entire WMF. > > pon., 6 maj 2019 o 15:39 Paulo Santos Perneta > napisał(a): > > > Hi Cornelius, > > > > Apart from the general discussion about the specific role of AffCom, I > > really would like to know who is the entity ov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who oversees the AffCom?

m> wrote: > > > > > Hi Paulo, > > > > > > This is an excellent question. I am curious to find out that too. > > > > > > Best, > > > Kiril > > > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:13 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who oversees the AffCom?

t; transparency and accountability would be good. > > > > On May 6, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > A few days ago the Wikimedia affiliate I belong to was officially > informed, > > by a WMF source, that I'm being subject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 May 2019)

Wiki Loves Earth and Global Summit Creative Commons is making me happy this week. :) Paulo Pine W escreveu no dia segunda, 6/05/2019 à(s) 08:32: > I am trying to restart the "What's making you happy this week?" threads. > > > I am grateful for the volunteers who are facilitating significant

[Wikimedia-l] Who oversees the AffCom?

Hello, A few days ago the Wikimedia affiliate I belong to was officially informed, by a WMF source, that I'm being subject to a until now unknown sanction, with an accusation from AffCom I can only describe as baseless and fraudulent, relating to a a situation between two affiliates, dealt with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] timeline for Project Grants

Rapid grants are also terribly slow and totally behind the proposed deadlines. They take months to get approved. Valuable events and partnerships have been and are being ruined because of this. This delay and slowness is absolutely unexplainable. I recall people mentioning here in the list that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The latest updates from movement strategy

"right now, affiliate groups and language communities are taking these discussions further in community conversations" Not sure what communities you are talking about here, but as far as I know onwiki community discussions are completely and totally abandoned by the Working Groups, even in meta.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Korea

Congratulations! First new chapter in 5 years or so. At last. :) Best, Paulo María Sefidari escreveu no dia terça, 23/04/2019 à(s) 23:11: > Hi everyone, > > I am happy to share that earlier this year, the Wikimedia Foundation Board > of Trustees approved our newest Wikimedia chapter -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Community Strategy Liaisons

the decision-making to > the Foundation -- they have a full-time, paid, expert staff to do this sort > of thing, as we're hearing in the message that started this very thread. > > JPS > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 4:45 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Community Strategy Liaisons

Why all these discussions on meta seem to be completely abandoned by the Strategy Work Groups? - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Roles_%26_Responsibilities Wasn't it supposed to exist some interaction over there? Who is the community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Sad memories of Orkut, Panoramio, and all the unvaluable repositories of online knowledge that have been completely destroyed in the recent past, because they were doomed as uncompetitive by big corporations as Google. I seriously hope we don't go that way.  Paulo Peter Southwood escreveu no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

The WMF should not sort out any demarcation issues. In fact, it should not sort out anything at all in the Movement. The WMF is administered by the Movement, and it's main purpose and mission is to serve it, not do dictate anything there. That is a boundary that should never be crossed. Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Why is it not consistent? If the event is encyclopedic, it can (and should) be treated by Wikipedia, same way as any other subject. I confess I've never understood the mantra of "Wikipedia is not a source of news", when it may be, indeed, and with great advantage, as it provides *context*, a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

16, 2019 at 3:49 AM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I wouldn't describe Wikinews as a success case, though. > > > > Paulo > > > > Compared to Wikitribune it is! But more importantly, if Wikinews is not > thriving, th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

I wouldn't describe Wikinews as a success case, though. Paulo Jennifer Pryor-Summers escreveu no dia segunda, 15/04/2019 à(s) 19:05: > Luiz > > > > > > If the true drivers behind this change are because WMF senior > > > management believe that the WMF is a competitor for Facebook or > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

Also reminding that most of us who are members of national chapters are volunteers at the projects, and many of us were in the projects for long before joining a chapter or UG. If the WMF spoils the chapters, we will find our way and do the same thing we are doing for ages, advancing good quality

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

Have I missed something, or this discussion is nowhere to be seen at any of the Village Pumps of the Portuguese Wikipedia? Also, is there any point in discussing this onwiki, as it was in Commons by part of the community[1], if apparently there is not any following by the people in charge of this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject Med Board Election Results

Many congratulations to the new elected board, I hope to meet you all in Wikimania! Paulo Shani Evenstein escreveu no dia quinta, 4/04/2019 à(s) 01:43: > Dear all, > > Last week a new board was elected > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med/Board/Election_2019#Summary > > > for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [strategy process] Fwd: I decided to leave the working group

I subscribe what Yaroslav wrote, line by line. My personal impression is that for the people who are at the onwiki communities, in which I include myself till 2018, this whole Strategy 2030 thing looks indeed like something happening in a distant galaxy, led by people with very little notion of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

Hi Vito, I believe it depends on the way it is done. An edithaton on rappers & pop stars with high-school students could be a great way to get them into the project in a fun way. Then as they keep developing and diversifying their interests, as generally happens with growing kids, they have a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

Hi, I absolutely agree with the idea of finding some way to know what is more popular / wanted by readers. And if we identify with it/want to invest some time in it / whatever, then we can have a good criteria to follow about what to create first, or invest more in. I have created myself a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Helene Hahn and Mirjam Stegherr appointed to the WMDE board

Hi Lukas, Helene and Mirjam , I join Camelia and Itzik in congratulating Wikimedia DE for finding an ingenious and clever solution for giving more gender diversity to the board, and getting those two fantastic new acquisitions to the board in the way! I wish a very warm welcome to Helene and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Albania

chic inside (affiliate > > structures are nothing more than just legal tools), whilst locals have > > centuries-old history of living together in Hunnic Empire, Cumania, > > Mongolic Empire, Golden Horde, Russian Empire, Soviet Union & now Russian > > Federation (

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Iberoconf 2019 - Declaration of Santiago regarding affiliates' rights and responsabilities

A Portuguese version is also available now: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2019/Carta_de_Santiago/pt Paulo Osmar Valdebenito escreveu no dia sexta, 22/02/2019 à(s) 01:43: > Hello friends, > > I would like to share with you the declaration made by most of the > participants

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

Hello, Chris Keating escreveu no dia quinta, 21/02/2019 à(s) 21:43: > (...) be fair the voices on the Meta page > were a relatively narrow slice of the overall Wikimedia community. > The so called "WMF gap" is a recurrent issue, and was the theme of a "working group proposal" (?) in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Affiliations Committee appointments

Satdeep & Tanvir stepped down, 2 reappointments, and 3 new appointments - 13-2+3=14 : Apparently AffCom has just expanded to 14 seats. Paulo Farah Jack Mustaklem escreveu no dia quinta, 21/02/2019 à(s) 18:10: > Hi everyone, > > I'm pleased to announce that Reda Kerbouche, Manavpreet Kaur, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

Hi, I understand that, in face of this decision, something (the "movement"? the affiliates? who?) will have to come up with some process in some place (where?) to viabilize the inclusion of UGs in the Affiliate-selected Board seats (ASBS) 2019 process, which is expected to start in about 45 days.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Albania

rs that were not consulted at all about the potential > > consequencies. This is a waste of volunteer time and efforts for > something > > that could have easily been prevented. Unfortunately, the Wikimedia > > Foundation and some other voices in the movement contribute to this > mise

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please welcome the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief Operating Officer, Janeen Uzzell

Great welcome from Madeira island, (sort of..) Portugal, Janneen! Wikimedia Portugal looks forward to work with you in anything you may need. Paulo - DarwIn Wikimedia Portugal Katherine Maher escreveu no dia quinta, 14/02/2019 à(s) 06:31: > Hello all! > > I am delighted to share with you that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Albania

Hello, camelia boban escreveu no dia terça, 12/02/2019 à(s) 11:18: > (...) > In line with the philosophy of the inclusion of the movement, AffCom has > acted as it always does when it receives affiliation requests: it assesses > the territorial overlap and the declared purpose of the requests

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Security Notification: Malware creating fake Wikipedia donation banner

Hi, I seem to recall some OTRS tickets recently sent warning about it. Should they be forward to any address in particular, in case they keep coming in? Paulo John Bennett escreveu no dia quinta, 24/01/2019 à(s) 14:02: > Hello, > > In order to keep the community informed of threats against

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia fue brevemente inaccesible en Venezuela / Wikipedia was briefly inaccessible in Venezuela

Hi Pine, Not briefly, but for 6 days already: *https://twitter.com/wikimedia_ve/status/1086073852323491841 * The blockage seems to be limited to government owned CanTV. But being the biggest ISP in Venezuela, the effects have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Content showcases? Examples needed

Hi, Two quick suggestions: - Picture of the year - Integrated and successful GLAMs, where valuable content from GLAM partners is reused in various Wikimedia projects, preferentially in an integrated way, and already being successfully used in educational institutions for teaching.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

As someone already mentioned earlier in this thread, I believe there is a concrete structural obstacle in mobile editing, which has to do with the ability of searching resources, quickly reading books, papers, PDF articles, a plethora of websites, news, etc, and using them in Wikipedia articles in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Jonathan Cardy escreveu no dia terça, 1/01/2019 à(s) 09:54: > Yes the greying of the pedia is a real phenomena, and I am sure that an > editor survey would confirm that on average we are getting older. > At least in the Lusophone world, evidence does not seem to support that idea of the greying

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Samuel Klein escreveu no dia terça, 1/01/2019 à(s) 00:51: > Dear Kiril, I assume you mean these lovely experiments by Shared Knowledge: > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_from_the_Republic_of_Macedonia > > They are lovely, and look like they are now in use. I like specific >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Ahh, it would really be a fantastic improvement if we could get rid of all that template & category clutter from the articles. Wikipedia categories are generally anathema to newbies, more like some weird and absurd core they have to do in order to have their article accepted. Even to me, who have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Kiril Simeonovski escreveu no dia segunda, 31/12/2018 à(s) 10:05: > some innovations. The problem with expanding an unchanged and obsolete > infrastructure to underrepresented groups might result to no avail and > further incentivise a major shift, thus doubling the cost invested in >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

I expect the degree of incidence of vandalism and its patterns would remain the same in the brethren articles as in the parent one, so more items to watchlist should not be a problem (it will be shown moreless the same times as if it was in one piece, but showing the parts). It can also allow for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Yaroslav Blanter escreveu no dia domingo, 30/12/2018 à(s) 13:55: > Re milennials: this is clearly not a red herring. Just ask Facebook what > their demographics is and why the 18- generation is not using it. > Stats show that Galinha Pintadinha was one of the most viewed articles in 2018 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws

Indeed, the proposed changes do not seem to be an improvement at all, for the reasons stated in the talk page. Paulo Chris Keating escreveu no dia sábado, 8/12/2018 à(s) 09:46: > Same here! > > TL:DR – This might not be a great idea, because it’s not what User Groups > were designed for. And

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Summit 2019: Registration now open

Hello Pine, Sorry, I didn't wanted to mess up this thread, it was just a quick followup correcting that we may be able to carry on those events despite the suspension, but indeed it's not related to the Summit anymore (and thinking better, possibly of very limited interest for the people here in

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