[Wikimedia-l] Apology

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In a previous email I referred to a fundraising claim as "filthy marketing 
lies".   That phrase was unduly harsh, and could give the impression that I was 
impugning the moral character of the people who wrote and approved the message. 
 For that I am sorry and issue a formal retraction.  

I have not yet returned to the mailing list or the meta page, so I don't know 
what was said in response nor even if the email passed moderation.  That is 
intentional.  I wanted to be able to write this with a clear head, and not be 
tempted to dilute this apology with rebuttals and explanations. 

I hope you understand, 
Pelagic. 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Update From the Board

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Anyone know where Dan would have gotten this update?  I've searched for it 
without success.  
Pelagic

Dan Szymborski dszymborski at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 16:53:46 UTC 2020> Surprised to not see this here yet.> ...
> In response to comments from community members, the Board GovernanceCommittee 
> has ...

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[Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

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[ Cross-posted from 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Donations_-_show_the_editors_you_care%3F
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I had the misfortune of visiting Wikipedia logged-out the other day, and was 
struck by the large size of the donation banner, and the odd wording of the 
appeal. (Something about awkward and humble.) Re-checking now, the "awkward" 
bit is gone, but the following sentences are still there:
    "If Wikipedia has given you $2.75 worth of knowledge, take a minute to 
donate. Show the editors who bring you neutral and verified information that 
their work matters."

As an occasional editor I want to know: how do the donations show me that the 
work matters? Is there some W?F "appreciation fund" that's going to start 
handing out disbursements to editors? Will the money hire more dev's to 
implement all the unfinished items from the Community Wishlists? Will funds be 
used to run better "community consultations" where the communities are actually 
listened to? Or is it just a big fat cynical marketing lie? 

[Add: okay, I get it that donation appeals have to phrased in a way that 
actually causes people to donate.  But this skates very close to implying that 
Wikipedia's editors are paid from donors' money.]
Cheers, 
Pelagic  
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