[Wikimedia-l] Ի՞նչն է Ձեզ երջանկացնում այս շաբաթ: / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 22 September 2019)

2019-09-26 Thread Pine W
Pictures from Armenia - This image , which was the Picture of the Day for English Wikipedia on 17 September, shows Mount Ararat and the Araratian plain seen early morning from near the city

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for September 2019

2019-09-26 Thread Pine W
g/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 13:43 Pine W wrote: > Hello colleagues, > > Bluerasberry and I are resuming the Wikimedia Café online video meetings > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9>. The agenda for > this month's meeting currently includes: > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-24 Thread Pine W
Hi, I'm glad that this conversation is going in a positive direction. I have spent the last several days contemplating that after the events of this summer, if I see WMF in any way associated with a surprise, I get a stress headache and wonder what new problem has started. If I had a more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-20 Thread Pine W
I have a few comments. While I appreciate the sentiment, I wouldn't have put the wikimediafoundation.org domain "on strike", just as I wouldn't have put a government agency's website "on strike". I think that some discussion of climate change would be fine, but I think that WMF's action here is

[Wikimedia-l] O que está te fazendo feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 15 September 2019)

2019-09-15 Thread Pine W
*English Wikiquote of the day for 15 September* "To be part of something one doesn't in the least understand is, I think, one of the most intriguing things about life. I like living. I have sometimes been wildly despairing, acutely miserable, racked with sorrow, but through it all I still know

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for September 2019

2019-09-11 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, Bluerasberry and I are resuming the Wikimedia Café online video meetings . The agenda for this month's meeting currently includes: - Fundraising from non-WMF sources for Wikimedia projects and affiliate organizations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-09 Thread Pine W
It crosses my mind that I would think that some of the WMF office staff would also be getting tired of crisis, conflict, and unwelcome surprises. These types of problems are unlikely to ever be fully prevented, but I would think that the parade of difficulties in the past few months would also be

[Wikimedia-l] Qu’est-ce qui vous rend heureux cette semaine? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 8 September 2019)

2019-09-07 Thread Pine W
*The English Wikipedia Teahouse* * The English Wikipedia Teahouse recently surpassed 1000 pages of archives. The Teahouse seems to be very successful. *Pictures of the day from various wikis, with descriptions in English* * French Wikipedia:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Pine W
I too think that an RfC is a good option here. I suggest having multiple questions in the RfC. Questions could include, "What should the organization that is currently known as the Wikimedia Foundation be named?", "Should there be a unifying brand for the online projects such as Wikipedia,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-05 Thread Pine W
Hello Zack, Thank you for the report on Meta. I am troubled by your statement in this email that "There is considerable support for the brand proposal and general appetite to improve our movement’s branding system." What that statement appears to omit is that, according to the report on Meta,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Τι σας κάνει ευτυχείς αυτήν την εβδομάδα? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 1 September 2019)

2019-09-01 Thread Pine W
I failed to include some text, including a link for proper attribution, that I should have included in the description of William Least Heat-Moon. Sorry about that. Here's a revised description. William Least Heat-Moon “is an American travel

[Wikimedia-l] Τι σας κάνει ευτυχείς αυτήν την εβδομάδα? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 1 September 2019)

2019-09-01 Thread Pine W
*Wikidata and medical data* Presentation at Wikimania by User:Csisc from Tunisia and User:Saintfevrier from Greece: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2019_-_Wikidata_and_Health.pdf *Visual content* - Commons media of the day: butterfly takeoff in slow motion, uploaded

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join us tomorrow for the FINAL Wikimedia Monthly Activities Meeting

2019-08-30 Thread Pine W
, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 14:03 Leila Zia wrote: > Hi Pine, > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:47 PM Pine W wrote: > > > From what I have seen, I think that Wikimedia Space may be good for some > > use cases, but it's n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join us tomorrow for the FINAL Wikimedia Monthly Activities Meeting

2019-08-28 Thread Pine W
Hi, Thanks for the update. Over the years there has been a flourishing of subject-specific public meetings, which have been good for covering topics in greater depth than is possible when a much larger number of topics are packed into the same one hour time window. However, my guess is that this

[Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 25 August 2019)

2019-08-26 Thread Pine W
Wikidata milestone Wikidata passed the one billion edit milestone. The milestone edit, by User:Stevenliuyi , created the item “The band structure in microwave frequency for quasi-1-D coaxial photonic crystals (Q5412)

[Wikimedia-l] Apa yang membuatmu senang di minggu ini? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 18 August 2019)

2019-08-21 Thread Pine W
*Meta issues* * Updates regarding the GlobalFactSync project were provided in an email sent to Wikitech-l , and in a Wikimania presentation

[Wikimedia-l] 这个星期让您感到开心的是什么?/ What's making you happy this week? (Week of 11 August 2019)

2019-08-13 Thread Pine W
Advanced mobile contributions This feature set is live on all wikis. I haven't tried this yet but I think that this looks promising. *ESEAP Strategy Summit* A report

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-13 Thread Pine W
I have what seems to be a minority opinion so far. I think that hosting NC and ND media is worth considering. If the Commons community does not want media with those licenses to be on Commons then I think that Peter's suggestion is good. A tricky issue may be whether to allow NC and NC media on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the update, Nicole. As I have been reading portions of the recommendations, I am finding it helpful to remind myself that these proposals are drafts, and to assume good faith when reading them. I have a variety of thoughts regarding proposals, including "I completely agree", "This is

[Wikimedia-l] ¿Qué te esta haciendo feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 4 August 2019)

2019-08-08 Thread Pine W
*Content* The English Wikiquote of the day for 8 August is from American poet Sara Teasdale . The quote is a poem, "Alchemy ," from her collection *Rivers to the Sea* that was

[Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Aboluay

2019-08-04 Thread Pine W
Dear colleagues, The community has learned of the passing of User:Aboluay (on Arabic Wikipedia at https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Aboluay, and on English Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aboluay). He contributed over 21,000 edits to Arabic

[Wikimedia-l] Vad glädjer dig den här veckan? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 28 July 2019)

2019-07-29 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, This week I would like to share a reflection, "On gratitude and love ", by Johan (WMF) . --- "I’ve always appreciated my fellow Wikimedians. But when I do

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 21 July 2019)

2019-07-26 Thread Pine W
I apologize for the lateness of this week's email. I would like to highlight the recognition of the Dehalvi Wikimedia Community User Group and Wikimedia Community User Group Math

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-16 Thread Pine W
The pace of discussions about this incident appear to be slowing, both here and on ENWP. Discussions on ENWP seems to be turning towards longer term topics. I think that some of these discussions could instead have happened in better circumstances. I do not envision any likely outcome where the

[Wikimedia-l] ما الذي يمنحك السعادة هذا الأسبوع؟ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 14 July 2019)

2019-07-13 Thread Pine W
Winners of the Wiki Loves Africa 2019 campaign on Commons were announced . These articles were linked from the most recent *Books and Bytes* newsletter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-11 Thread Pine W
I'm continuing to think about the WMF Board's handling of this matter, but I am experiencing considerable difficulty with wording my comments in a way that is diplomatic. Hopefully I'll have further comments to share here next week. In the meantime, and perhaps of greater interest to other

[Wikimedia-l] Что делает тебя счастливый на этой неде́ле / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 7 July 2019)

2019-07-11 Thread Pine W
This past weekend I took time offline to go bicycling , including bicycling on part of the Burke-Gilman Trail . There are photos of the trail and surrounding scenery on Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-04 Thread Pine W
e for ensuring that the damage is fixed > and taking reasonably practicable precautions for preventing a recurrence. > Due diligence is their duty, not exhaustive diligence or micromanagement. > Cheers, Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-03 Thread Pine W
Hello Wikimedia-l colleagues, I hope that your day is going well. There are some updates regarding the topics that we are discussing in this thread. I am writing this email in a personal capacity. As a reminder, the English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee published an open letter on 30 June

[Wikimedia-l] Co sprawia, że jesteś szczęśliwy w tym tygodniu? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 June 2019)

2019-06-30 Thread Pine W
At the moment I am not particularly happy, but I am grateful. I feel that the English Wikiquote of the day for 30 June 2019 is appropriate to share for contemplation in the context of current tensions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

2019-06-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim, On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, thank you for your feedback about Wikimedia Space. > > So far, there have been many comments focusing on _who_ has released _what_ > and _how_. Let me tell you _why_ we are proposing Wikimedia Space. People > agreeing on _why_ can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

2019-06-25 Thread Pine W
Hi Maria, Thanks for this update. I hope that you can answer a question. I may be mistaken, but my impression is that the purposes that are outlined for Wikimedia Space are within the intended scopes of the Meta and Outreach wikis, as well as Wikimedia-l. I think that the community would be

[Wikimedia-l] อะไรที่ทำให้คุณมีความสุขในสัปดาห์นี้ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 23 June 2019)

2019-06-23 Thread Pine W
These "What's making you happy this week?" threads often mention a smorgasbord of subjects. The English Wiktionary Word of the day for June 22 was "smorgasbord". Wiktionary's definitions of that word are: "1. A

[Wikimedia-l] 今週あなたを幸せにするものは何ですか? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 16 June 2019)

2019-06-19 Thread Pine W
While browsing Japanese Wikipedia, I found this article with beautiful photos. Although I cannot read Japanese, my understanding from an automated translation is that the article describes the Tajima

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-14 Thread Pine W
learly apt and apposite > > comparison. > > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 19:48, Pine W wrote: > > > > > > I'm sad to hear that. I would not want a victim to go with a request > for > > > help to WMF, local functionaries, an arbitration co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-13 Thread Pine W
I'm sad to hear that. I would not want a victim to go with a request for help to WMF, local functionaries, an arbitration committee, or anyone else, and have the situation end up worse rather than better. I don't know what to recommend. Perhaps you could ask the stewards what they think. I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-13 Thread Pine W
*almost certainly. Reprimand to Pine for insufficient proofreading. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-13 Thread Pine W
I'll note that WMF has provided a statement here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram=prev=901424172=source I find WMF's justifications for its actions to be unpersuasive. WMF's policies can (within some legal limits)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the concern, Dennis, but I am not feeling threatened and I don't fully understand the source of your concern. I suggest that we not increase the tension any further, please. (I need to go do something else besides participate in this thread, but anyone is welcome to email me off list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Pine W
Nathan, Continuing on my theme of assuming good faith: I think that the assumption of good faith needs to go in all ways, which includes that WMF should assume good faith of ENWP and that ENWP should assume good faith of WMF. I had some very critical comments in mind earlier but I am trying to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Pine W
such a manner. > > If I had wanted to be tone policed o would have engaged with the on-wiki > conversation. > > Rebecca > > On Wed 12 Jun 2019, 23:58 Pine W, wrote: > > > Hi Rebecca, > > > > These conversations can be stressful for many of us, in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Pine W
Hi Rebecca, These conversations can be stressful for many of us, including me. Speaking up in public can take courage. Thank you for participating here, and I encourage you to continue to participate even if you are in the minority regarding a certain discussion. I know that this can be

[Wikimedia-l] ¿Qué te hace feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week?

2019-06-11 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I hope that you feel welcome to add your own comments to this email thread. Your participation would be appreciated, including starting these threads in future weeks. I like this Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-11 Thread Pine W
I am trying to have an open mind regarding this matter. I'm supportive of local and global bans in a variety of circumstances, and if WMF thinks that sanctions are appropriate then I generally would expect WMF to present the relevant evidence to community authorities. English Wikipedia has ways

[Wikimedia-l] Quod facit beatus hic sabbati? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 2 June 2019)

2019-06-04 Thread Pine W
As usual, I am grateful for the volunteer contributors to the most recent issue of The Signpost. I was happy to see that Wikimedia Canada and Library and Archives Canada

[Wikimedia-l] Kedu ihe na-eme gị obi ụtọ n'izu a? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 26 May 2019)

2019-05-29 Thread Pine W
I was happy to read this announcement by Amir regarding improvements for typing in African languages on Wikimedia projects. (I hope that the translation of the subject of this week's email is correct.) I thought that this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive

2019-05-25 Thread Pine W
I postponed responding to this thread partly because I was busy and partly because I was mentally bracing myself for a rough ride. I thank Risker, Nathan, Philippe, SJ, and James for their calm comments here. I wish that I had been calmer myself. I have not discussed this thread with Fae off

[Wikimedia-l] Seni bu hafta ne mutlu ediyor? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 19 May 2019)

2019-05-23 Thread Pine W
This week I would like to thank people who volunteer significant time and effort to hunt advertising, undisclosed conflict of interest editing, and sockpuppet accounts in the Wikiverse. I was reminded of these subjects by this email

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you and farewell

2019-05-17 Thread Pine W
Dear Sati, Although I don't know you well, I remember you asking questions during some meetings that I thought were good questions. I very much appreciate you posting to this list to say goodbye. I hope that this goodbye is temporary, and I hope to see you around the Wikiverse in the future.

[Wikimedia-l] Qu'est-ce qui te rend heureuse cette semaine? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 12 May 2019)

2019-05-14 Thread Pine W
I think that the mobile Suggested Edits feature and the related analysis are interesting. I am forwarding text from that discussion. Also, I was happy to see the recognition of two new user groups. They are the WikiClassics User Group and the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group. What's making you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive

2019-05-14 Thread Pine W
I think that raising the question here is fine. I also think that it is more WMF's responsibility to be responsive than community members' responsibility to guess where and how to ask questions. In general (this is not intended as a criticism of you, Dan) my view is that WMF has a very mixed

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 May 2019)

2019-05-06 Thread Pine W
I am trying to restart the "What's making you happy this week?" threads. I am grateful for the volunteers who are facilitating significant portions of the selection process for two WMF Board seats. Also, I

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts regarding the Wikiverse as a public forum

2019-05-03 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, In the Wikiverse one of my continuing struggles is with the topic of how we can be vibrantly diverse, and accepting of strong debates and open disagreement, while also not intimidating good faith contributors who may be less willing to comment in a public space due to fear of

[Wikimedia-l] LangCom proposed modification to policy

2019-04-29 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I learned recently of a LangCom proposed modification to policy, and I don't think that I've seen an announcement of this proposal on mailing lists, so I'm sharing the proposal here. Current policy:

[Wikimedia-l] Temporary personal break from mailing lists

2019-03-23 Thread Pine W
Hi mailing list colleagues, I'm not sure whether I should make this be public, but I tend to be a frequent participant on mailing lists so maybe sharing this would be good. I am taking a temporary break from participating on Wikimedia mailing lists. Recently I am finding myself frequently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor

2019-03-18 Thread Pine W
Hi Avery, You might be interested in my final report from the previous grant, which is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Motivational_and_educational_video_to_introduce_Wikimedia/Final#Learning . I was not planning to publish the referencing videos to YouTube, but I think that's a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on the Wikimedia Foundation’s planning process

2019-03-16 Thread Pine W
Hi Janeen, Thanks very much for the update. I like the sound of these goals. I have a question regarding the first goal. Does growing participation refer to growing human readership, or to both growing human readership and growing data reuse such as from Wikidata, or to growing human readership

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor

2019-03-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Bekriah, Thanks for sharing the Arabic and Hebrew resources. Would you please add the those resources to this catalog of tutorials ? My

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Roles & Responsibilities working group - Short update

2019-03-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Chris, I think that this document has a very good summary of existing issues. Thanks for sharing. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 6:17 PM Chris Keating wrote: > Dear all, > > I just wanted to share that the Role & Responsibilities Strategy Working

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor

2019-02-26 Thread Pine W
Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish, Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them. In the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced

[Wikimedia-l] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor

2019-02-25 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, *Overview* A video tutorial for creating references on Wikipedia with VisualEditor is in development for English Wikipedia and possibly also for Spanish Wikipedia. Publication is likely to happen in March 2019. If this tutorial is well received then additional tutorials may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing stress and friction in interactions between WMF, affiliates, and community

2019-02-22 Thread Pine W
I like the idea of more transparency, and I think that opening processes can often help to reduce surprises and increase the quality of decisions. I wonder whether a reason that people hide information, including drafts and plans, is that they are afraid that if they share information then

[Wikimedia-l] Reducing stress and friction in interactions between WMF, affiliates, and community

2019-02-22 Thread Pine W
Hi, Recent events have brought to mind the recurring challenges of stress and friction in the Wikiverse that can happen in interactions, or lack of interactions, between WMF, affiliates, and community members. I realize that some friction is inevitable, but the feeling that I get is that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-02-20 Thread Pine W
9, 2019 at 3:38 AM Pine W wrote: > Hi, > > For the next Wikimedia Café online meetup we will focus on the subject of > communications in the Wikiverse. What about communications is working well, > what is not working well, and what should be done to improve > communications? Thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please welcome the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief Operating Officer, Janeen Uzzell

2019-02-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Janeen, It's nice to "meet" you. I hope that you like your new role. May I ask what your goals are in the COO role for the next few months? Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

[Wikimedia-l] Belated notification of the passing of User:Corinne

2019-02-11 Thread Pine W
Dear colleagues of Wikimedia-l, I learned today of the 2018 passing of User:Corinne. I feel that Corinne's substantial contributions to Wikimedia merit forwarding the news of her passing to this email list [0]. Corinne had a Master's degree in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-02-08 Thread Pine W
then please vote in the Doodle poll. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite > people to a casual online meetup one hour before the monthly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Analytics] Farewell, Erik!

2019-02-06 Thread Pine W
Thanks for your work, Erik. I hope that we will see you in the future. This is the first time that I can recall hearing about a person retiring from WMF. Volunteer retirements and semi-retirements happen regularly, and the reasons that I hear for those retirements are often sad. It's nice to hear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lisa Lewin joining Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2019-02-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Andy, Thank you for bringing up the subject of image licensing. While I am not an expert in the subject, I agree that compliance with licensing standards is important. At the same time, I would like to suggest that image licensing might be a better topic for a separate thread. I share Teles'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is now CEO and ED of the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-02-01 Thread Pine W
Maria, Thanks for the explanation. I think that people would have asked questions if no one explained the change. I for one usually appreciate communication happening sooner rather than later. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-31 Thread Pine W
Hi Alex, per Dan's suggestion that I provide a reminder of the original question, here is a reminder of part of what I wrote previously at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-September/091113.html . "I think that it would be helpful to have a big picture understanding of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-30 Thread Pine W
Hi Alex, I hope that you are doing well. I originally started this email thread on Wikimedia-l near the end of September 2018, and four months have passed. I am still hoping to hear an update about WMF's strategy for conferences. I am trying to be patient and considerate, but I think that you may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-28 Thread Pine W
Hi Yaroslav, I'm not aware of such wide consensus against paid editing in general. Wikimedians in Residence, for example, often seem to be paid contributors, and I can't recall the last time that I heard criticism of the concept of Wikimedians in Residence. However, you may know more about the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-01-23 Thread Pine W
Sorry, I started the meeting but the meeting ID number was wrong. I don't know how that happened. I think that this problem has been corrected, so if you were trying to connect, please try again. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 12:49 PM Pine W wrote

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia fue brevemente inaccesible en Venezuela / Wikipedia was briefly inaccessible in Venezuela

2019-01-17 Thread Pine W
Estoy enviando noticias que Wikipedia fue brevemente inaccesible en Venezuela. https://netblocks.org/reports/wikipedia-blocked-in-venezuela-as-internet-controls-tighten-XaAwR08M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] A difficult goodbye

2019-01-10 Thread Pine W
Thank you for your service, Victoria. I'm glad that your next steps sound like they will be good for you professionally and will be at another organization that does public service. I've appreciated that you have been consistently responsive and polite in our interactions. I wish you the best on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Alex, I hope that your 2019 is starting well. You may remember this thread from Wikimedia-l that I started near the end of September. Would you please provide an update regarding strategic planning for conferences? I realize that you may have several projects on your agenda including hiring a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-01-08 Thread Pine W
a reminder about this event, so please mark your calendars now if you want to attend. Thanks! Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 3:07 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi, > > The next "Wikimedia Café" meetup will be on Wednesday the 23rd of January, > on a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy Process

2019-01-07 Thread Pine W
Fae, I have a number of points of contention with WMF, but at least as far as the strategy process is concerned WMF has done a few things that no one was forcing it to do such as being willing to discuss how money is collected and distributed, and Kaarel has been diplomatic in my communications

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Structured data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

2019-01-07 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the news, Keegan. I'm cross-posting the info to other lists with the date boldly corrected. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) --- Hi all, following up on last month's announcement... [0] Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
ood place to ask questions or to discuss ideas, regarding Wikidata or other Wikimedia topics. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite > people t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
Sorry, I meant to say Amharic, not Armenian. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:45 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi, > > My opinion is that the block should be lifted. However, to the best of my > knowledge, an appeal of a local block to the larger W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
Hi, My opinion is that the block should be lifted. However, to the best of my knowledge, an appeal of a local block to the larger Wikiverse has never been successful. I am guessing that there are at least four factors here: 1. a lack of consensus for a process for appealing a local block to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update and feedback results from the Wikimedia's chairpersons retreat

2019-01-01 Thread Pine W
tzik Edri* > Chairperson > it...@wikimedia.org.il > +972-54-5878078 > > > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:39 AM Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Itzik, Frans, and Vojtěch, > > > > I am very behind on email but I wanted to say thanks for sharing this > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update and feedback results from the Wikimedia's chairpersons retreat

2018-12-29 Thread Pine W
Hi Itzik, Frans, and Vojtěch, I am very behind on email but I wanted to say thanks for sharing this report from the chairpersons' meeting. I am wondering whether, for the purposes of (1) increasing the cost effectiveness of travel expenses, (2) reducing the negative environmental effects from

[Wikimedia-l] Feliz Navidad y feliz año nuevo / Merry Christmas and happy new year

2018-12-25 Thread Pine W
(Hello, I am writing first in Spanish and then in English. Pido disculpas por cualquier error en la español.) Hola, espero que todos los que celebran los días festivos en esta época del año disfruten de su tiempo. Encontré algunos videos que pensé que a Wikimedians les gustaría. Supongo que la

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-12-08 Thread Pine W
Some further thoughts about reporting: * Many affiliates already produce quantitative and qualitative information for their grant reports. I would like to see much of that same information about inputs and outputs included in annual reports, both for Global Metrics and for custom metrics. * I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws

2018-12-08 Thread Pine W
I think that the proposals are worth considering, although my wish list for reforming the WMF Board has other priorities at this time (especially regarding transparency, and the changing of the Founder's seat to a community-selected seat). I think that these proposals should wait until after the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Pine W
I'm going to respond to both Chris and Gerard in one email. Gerard: * I agree that it's possible to over-bureaucratize projects, including small projects. This is one of the reasons that I think that performance analysis should mostly be done with staff or contractor time rather than volunteer

[Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-28 Thread Pine W
Hello, This email is mainly addressed to Affcom and WMF but I would like to hear others' comments also. Some background information regarding the context for this email: the recently published annual reports from user groups reminded me of some issues that I first considered a few years ago. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l diversity and level of participation

2018-11-20 Thread Pine W
; prefer to at least share them with you. Feel free to do whatever you feel > appropriate with that.  > > Cheers > > Le 7 novembre 2018 22:58:11 GMT+01:00, Pine W a > écrit : >> >> Hello Wikimedia-l, >> >> One subject that continues to be a source of con

Re: [Wikimedia-l] appeal of fundraising technical wish denial

2018-11-20 Thread Pine W
Hi James, Although I have a variety of frustrations with WMF Community Resources and for COI reasons I would like to have ways to fund Wikimedia projects with minimal involvement or approvals from WMF, I agree with Danny that your proposal as written is likely outside of the scope for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-16 Thread Pine W
and it will always be > an ongoing challenge in our work. > > We are grateful to be presented with this challenge and with the joy of > telling millions of people about this movement. Thank you for caring so > deeply, for all your contributions, and for keeping this feedback loop > ali

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Seddon, While the fundraising appeal may be successful, the problem that I have with this subject line is that it can mislead readers into thinking that someone with the ability to do so is seriously considering, or making an effort to, delete Wikipedia in entirety. I think that a subject

[Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-13 Thread Pine W
There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] - Deleting Wikipedia?" In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices, and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flash fundraiser for Wikimedia Portugal

2018-11-13 Thread Pine W
For what it's worth, I am sorry to hear about this painful situation. I don't know enough about the situation in WMPT, WMF, and AffCom, to say much more than that at this time, and I have no authority to intervene, but I hope that the chapter is viable and that in there will be a light at the end

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 11 November 2018)

2018-11-10 Thread Pine W
This is a more solemn email than is usual. I recognize that this email reflects my personal view, and if this email is not something that you appreciate then I invite you to disregard it and write your own email regarding something that makes you happy or grateful this week. The 11th of November

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Summit 2019: Registration now open

2018-11-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Paulo, As much as I am concerned about the situation between WMPT and AffCom, and as much as I would like to see more transparency from AffCom, I would like to request that those subjects be kept separate from this thread which is primarily about a conference. Also, WikimediaAnnounce-l is for

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l diversity and level of participation

2018-11-07 Thread Pine W
Hello Wikimedia-l, One subject that continues to be a source of concern for me is that I'd like to have a greater quantity and greater diversity of participants on Wikimedia-l. I have heard that some people feel that their English skills are not good enough to participate here, and I don't know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2018-11-04 Thread Pine W
?greetings,AdOp zo 4 nov. 2018 20:58 schreef Pine W Hello,>> My request from September has gone unanswered, so I am trying again. I> don't think that there is a single point of contact for conference funding> and strategy at WMF, but I think that there should be, and perh

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