[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia MediaWikis for Blogging?

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Mr./Ms. Blace.

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:43:31 +0100
Željko Blaće  wrote:

> Are there any good practices of using
> Wikimedia MediaWikis for Blogging
> or good reasons not to do it?
> (I see Meta/Outreach/MediaWiki.org
> have no Special:CreateBlogPost)
> 

For blogs, I prefer using custom static site generators; wordpress and
mediawiki are too unreliable and quirky:

* http://shlomifishswiki.branchable.com/WordPress/

*
https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/web/choice-of-docs-formats/#word-processors

* https://shlomif-tech.livejournal.com/74922.html

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

> I see big benefits if blogging is about Wikimedia.
> Shortcomings I can imagine are potentially with:
> vandalism, limited visual design + embedding options,
> Confusions with User vs. Main namespace…
> any others?
> 
> Best - Z. Blace



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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter on negating race and ethnicity as "meaningful distinctions" in the UCoC

[Shlomi Fish]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 18:36:12 +0100
Anasuya Sengupta  wrote:

> Tl;dr Urgent need to address the note denying race and ethnicity as
> “meaningful distinctions among people” in the Universal Code of Conduct
> (UCoC). The current wording is highly problematic and can result in
> endorsing systemic and individual discrimination and violence on the basis
> of race and ethnicity, rather than preventing it.
> 
> Dear Wikimedians,
> 
> We are writing this letter as the Whose Knowledge? user group, both to
> Wikimedia-l, as well as adding it to the talk page for the UCoC.[0] We
> endorsed the UCoC in the community voting process because we are committed
> to its principles and intentions (indeed, some of us have been expressly
> working towards it within the movement for a very long time, in multiple
> ways).

my take on it -
https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-cards-on-the-table-2019-2020/indiv-nodes/make-your-own-kind-of-music.xhtml

[[[

Make your own kind of music / Take your qualities to your advantage [
#make-your-own-kind-of-music ] Node Link

Similar to the Mama Cass Elliot song "make your own kind of music" or its Lady
Gaga modernisation "Born This Way", I have given an interpretation of Captain
Nemo (= "nobody" in Latin, and not to be confused with Nemo from the animated
film Finding Nemo) in Jules Verne's novel 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, whom
people keep finding interesting for what he believes are superficial reasons.
But these qualities are part of what makes us who we are.

The YouTuber band Cimorelli has used the fact that they are six sisters (who
also have five male brothers) in a large Roman Catholic family, a trend which
has received a lot of antagonism, from environmentalists, psychologists and the
media, to their advantage, and as a gimmick. As a result, they published many
videos of them covering hit songs, some original songs, and have been live
performing and collaborating with other singers and entertainers.

Naturally, they are not the only YouTube success story. But if you get an
opportunity, seize it. Were you invited to give a talk? Go for it. Even if you
were invited from the "wrong" reason, you will pave the road for future
lecturers. A sociology student invited you to talk to them about your work as
an open source / open content creator? Go for it. You thought of a new Chuck
Norris/etc. factoid? Write it down and share it on social media and chat.
Someone asked you out and you like them and are single? Go for it. You have an
idea for a nice video, story, screenplay, song, etc. Execute it.

I used to be jealous of Ayn Rand for writing so lucidly and coherently in The
Fountainhead and in Atlas Shrugged, whereas my style of screenplays and stories
was what I described as "staccato" where I do not mention any unnecessary
details. However, Rand likely felt the same way about Dostoevsky and Tolstoy,
whose overly verbose style is now the terror and hatred of many Literature
students.

Similarly, current and future generations will likely appreciate my staccato
style more than Ayn Rand’s. Make your own kind of music!

]]]


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recognition of Wikimedia Community of Saint Petersburg User Group

[Shlomi Fish]

On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 04:38:59 +0400
Mehman Ibragimov  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedia Community of Saint Petersburg User Group [2] as a Wikimedia
> User Group. The group aims to cover various topics related to St.
> Petersburg, Russia, across all Wikimedia projects in all languages*.*
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

Congratulations!

> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
> 
> 
> *Kindly,---*
> 
> 
> 
> *Mehman Ibragimov*
> *Vice-Chair*
> 
> 
> *Affiliations Committee
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee>*



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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recognition of Paiwan Wikimedians User Group

[Shlomi Fish]

On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 04:42:39 +0400
Mehman Ibragimov  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Paiwan Wikimedians User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to gather all Paiwan language users on Wikimedia. Currently, on Test
> Wikipedia of Paiwan, they are working on sharing all knowledge for all
> humans in Paiwan language by workshops and edit-a-thons.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

Congratulations!

-- Shlomi

> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Paiwan_Wikimedians_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Paiwan_Wikimedians_User_Group
> 
> 
> *Kindly,---*
> 
> 
> 
> *Mehman Ibragimov*
> *Vice-Chair*
> 
> 
> *Affiliations Committee
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee>*



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell video for Katherine Maher

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Rajeeb,

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 02:45:20 +0530
Rajeeb  wrote:

> Hello Nadee,
> 
> This is a Rajeeb (Username: Marajozkee) I am sending you a "Farewell
> Katherine Song", written and sung by me, I hereby attach the audio file. I
> am sorry I can't record a video, so, I request you to use the song as
> wherever you feel right, maybe on the background of a video or something
> like that.
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> 

The MLM dropped your attachment. Can you upload it to youtube, soundcloud,
dropbox, gdrive (or a plain HTTP folder such as my
https://www.shlomifish.org/Files/ ), etc. and send a URL link?

> Namaste,
> Rajeeb.
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 04:14, Nadee Gunasena  wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > As many of you know, Katherine Maher, the ED of the Wikimedia Foundation,
> > will be stepping down next month. Her last day is April 15.
> >
> >
> > While Katherine will continue to be a part of our movement, we wanted to
> > find a way to celebrate her and send her off. We’ll be putting together a
> > video montage of farewell wishes from the movement. For anyone that would
> > like to participate, you can record a short video with your message for
> > Katherine via your phone or computer by going to the Tribute webpage [1].
> > Please keep your message under 30 seconds! The deadline to submit a video
> > is Monday, April 12.*
> >
> > If you have questions, please reach out.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Nadee Gunasena
> >
> > [1] https://www.tribute.co/katherine-maher/
> >
> >
> >
> > *Tribute is a third party service based in the United States, with its
> > own terms of service <https://www.tribute.co/termsofservice/> and privacy
> > policy <https://www.tribute.co/privacy/>. Please review their terms and
> > privacy policy before submitting your video. In order to submit your video,
> > you may need to provide Tribute with a name and email address. If you are
> > not comfortable submitting your real name or email, we recommend using a
> > username or pseudonym instead. By submitting a video, you are giving the
> > Foundation consent to include your segment in a video montage that will be
> > shared with Katherine.
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Nadee Gunasena*
> > Executive Communications Manager
> > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
> > ᐧ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] #SheSaid

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Florence and all!

Sorry for the late reply; see below for the text.

[One note first: despite what the "i" suffix may imply to English speakers, I
am a (genetic, non-trans/etc.) male. "Shlomi Fish" is my real and legal
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which I still approve of which include "Rindolf" or "Slimy Fish". For more
info about all that, you may wish to peruse the first questions in my home
site's FAQ: https://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/ .]

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 02:58:13 +0100
Florence Devouard  wrote:

> Did you know that quote
> 
> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right 
> to say it."
> 
> was authored by a woman ?
> 

I didn't know that.

For the record:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/01/defend-say/

Evelyn Beatrice Hall, who went under the pen name "S. G. Tallentyre"

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

> 
> Do you know how many entries on Wikiquote are about women versus Men ?
> 14639 men entries... for 2977 women entries...
> 
> Suprised ?
> 
> 
> I am happy to announce the new*#SheSaid campaign*. The #SheSaid drive is 
> aimed at improving the visibility of women across Wikimedia projects 
> (and beyond) by creating new or improving already existing Wikiquote 
> entries spoken by notable women.
> 
> Here are a few statistics:
> 
>   * On the English Wikiquote main page on 6th of Oct 2020, in
> the/Selected people/section... 29 men are featured and only 4 women
> (check out the screenshot on the right...)
>   * There are 233 women who have a featured article on either French or
> English Wikipedias... with no entry on the French Wikiquotecheck it
> out
> 
> <https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FFAsitelink%20%3FWQsitelink%0AWHERE%0A%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5.%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ6581072%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%3FFAsitelink%20%23%20There%20is%20a%20Wikipedia%20Featured%20article%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3Abadge%20wd%3AQ17437796%20.%20%23%20Sitelink%20is%20badged%20as%20a%20Featured%20Article%0A%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%3FFAsitelink%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Ffr.wikipedia.org%2F%3E%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0AUNION%0A%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3FFAsitelink%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2F%3E%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%0A%20%20%20MINUS%0A%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3FWQsitelink%20%23%20And%20a%20sitelink%20to%20a%20frwq%20page%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Ffr.wikiquote.org%2F%3E.%20%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22%20%7D%0A%20%7D>
>   * There are 141 women featured article on the English Wikipedia with
> no wikiquote entrycheck it
> 
> <https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FFAsitelink%20%3FWQsitelink%0AWHERE%0A%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5.%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ6581072%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%3FFAsitelink%20%23%20There%20is%20a%20Wikipedia%20Featured%20article%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3Abadge%20wd%3AQ17437796%20.%20%23%20Sitelink%20is%20badged%20as%20a%20Featured%20Article%0A%3FFAsitelink%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2F%3E%20.%0A%0A%0A%20%20%20MINUS%0A%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3FWQsitelink%20%23%20And%20a%20sitelink%20to%20a%20enwq%20page%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikiquote.org%2F%3E.%20%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22%20%7D%0A%20%7D>
>   * There are 519 women listed on the French wikiquotecheck it
> 
> <https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FWQsitelink%20%28GROUP_CONCAT%28%3FFAlang%3Bseparator%3D%22%2C%20%22%29%20AS%20%3FFAlanguages%29%20%3Fsitelinks%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ6581072%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3Asitelinks%20%3Fsitelinks%20.%0A%20%20%0A%20%20%3FWQsitelink%20%23%20And%20a%20sitelink%20to%20a%20frwq%20page%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Ffr.wikiquote.org%2F%3E.%20%20%0A%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22fr%2Cen%22%20%7D%20.%0A%7D%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FWQsitelink%20%3Fsitelinks%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Fsitelinks%29>and
> 3117 men 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Para-Wikimedians Community User Group

[Shlomi Fish]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 14:54:26 -0700
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Para-Wikimedians Community User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The group aims to facilitate, inform, support, and advocate for Wikimedians
> with special needs (Special Needs communities) globally, to provide a more
> diverse and inclusive environment.
> 
> 
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations!

Regards,

Shlomi
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Para-Wikimedians_Community_User_Group
> 
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Para-Wikimedians_Community_User_Group
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (she/her)
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Wikimedia-movement apolitical?

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Rebecca and all,

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 17:11:55 +0100
"Rebecca O'Neill"  wrote:

> Well said. Everything is political, and when the movement choses not to
> speak out or state an opinion on something, then we are giving our support
> to the status quo.
> 
> Believing yourself to be apolitical is as much a fantasy as being
> completely objective, it is inherently impossible.
> 

While one likely cannot be completely objective, I believe that we should try
to be as objective as possible, and not completely succumb to being subjective.

I had written about it here:

https://shlomif.livejournal.com/52439.html

Similarly, while the WMF has some shared political stances due to its mission
and objectives, it should try to avoid officially taking a stance on
politically-tangential issues that are out of that scope and which have no
consensus among its members, contributors and users. Otherwise, its
effectiveness in accomplishing its mission may be reduced, and we may lose or
alienate many members.

Just my opinion,

-- Shlomi

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Community of Kazakh language User Group

[Shlomi Fish]

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 01:22:55 -0400
Clover moss  wrote:

> ... and congratulations to all the members of this user group!
> 

Congratulations!

Regards,

Shlomi

> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 8:28 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
> rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> > [1] Wikimedia Community of Kazakh language User Group [2] as a Wikimedia
> > User Group. The group aims to increase the collaboration between the
> > members and other organizations outside of Wikimedia who are interested in
> > sharing the knowledge, to create meetups, contests and other activities
> > related to the Kazakh language.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group

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On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:37:06 -0700
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The group aims to promote Wikimedia projects to people living in,
> interested in or connected to Myanmar and also its relations/connections to
> the neighboring countries and around the world.
> 
> 
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations!

Regards,

Shlomi

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
> 
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
> 
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[Wikimedia-l] I support keeping the "Wikimedia" brand

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Hi all!

Just to note that I support keeping the "Wikimedia" brand rather than renaming
to "Wikipedia" because there are several other important and popular wikimedia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cooperation between Arabic Wikipedia and Taibah University

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Hi Ala'a,

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:38:37 +
Ala'a Najjar  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I’m Alaa (my Wikipedia
> account<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1>). This
> is the first time to post here, as I've been following silently for a while.
> (Thanks for Abbad
> Diraneyya<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AF_%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9>
> -  shown me this mailing list).
> 
> Today, we(1) completed our cooperation between Arabic Wikipedia and Taibah
> University<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taibah_University> in Saudi Arabia,
> as 42 students from the linguistics and Translation Department have written
> 42 articles on Arabic Wikipedia between 21 November 2019 – 30 December 2019.
> 

Sounds good. Thanks!

> You can found the articles list here
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Articles_created_by_Taibah_U._Students.jpg
> 
> Arabic Wikipedia tweet about this cooperation
> https://twitter.com/ArabicWikipedia/status/1211717690416603137
> 
> 
>   1.  4 users from Arabic Wikipedia:
> User:Reemnaif1413
> User:Mishary Al-Dhufeeri
> User:Bander7799
> User:علاء  (Me )
> 
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> Alaa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia is going to be available in turkey again

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On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 16:10:09 +0330
Mardetanha  wrote:

> Dear friends and colleagues
> before new year I would like to share the wonderful news that we received
> today. Turkey's Constitutional Court finds that the Wikipedia ban
> constitutes a violation of the right to freedom of expression. The high
> court also requests Ankara 1st Criminal Judgeship of Peace to remove the
> ban immediately. Wikipedia has been banned since Apr 2017.
> 

Great news! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Leadership change at Wikimedia Israel

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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:27:23 +0100
Cornelius Kibelka  wrote:

> Executive Director.
> 

Thanks! So ED is "Executive Director".

> Cheers
> Cornelius
> 
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 21:18, Shlomi Fish  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 15:24:36 +0100
> > camelia boban  wrote:
> >  
> > > A great thank you to Michal and congratulations to Revital for the new
> > > position.
> > > Also a great thank you to WMIL for the work done in all these years.
> > >  
> >
> > I agree. Thanks and good luck! (What does "ED" mean, though?)


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Leadership change at Wikimedia Israel

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 her last position – Chief Executive and Head of the
> > Jewish Agency Mission to Brazil.
> >
> > Revital brings extensive experience in large organizations, both local and
> > international, and a vast network of contacts in the private and public
> > sectors. She speaks Hebrew, English, Portuguese and Spanish.
> >
> > We wish her good luck in her position, in filling Michal’s big shoes, and
> > we are positive she continues to advance WMIL forward.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Itzik Edri*
> > Chairperson (volunteer)
> > it...@wikimedia.org.il
> > +972-54-5878078
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

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Hello John,

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 14:01:46 +0100
John Erling Blad  wrote:

> I wrote 1996 in the subject field because that was the year I made a
> wikisite with tabbed interface, and experimented with a paper-like
> design in Xt. More or less what designers today would call a material
> design. The present design is what I would call Monobook 2.0, and that
> imply a 15 year old design. Monobook was rolled out in 2004-2005 if I
> remember correctly.
> 

In that case, it was flamebait and provocative.

> At nowiki we had a discussion with a designer from The Oslo School of
> Architecture and Design around 2009, and he come up with a really nice
> design. The design at SNL (the other Norwegian lexicon) starts to look
> more and more like it. The design proposal was deemed to radical and
> to simple for Wikipedia. He got several awards for the design.
> 
> No, I'm not a designer, but I do like good design.
> 

Like I said, I do not find the current https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
design lacking, except for the fact it may not be mobile-friendly (or so called
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design ) enough, which is a
difficult problem to tackle.

> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:34 PM John Erling Blad  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, but discussing how your site or any other specific site
> > looked like in some year is an distraction.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:30 PM Shlomi Fish 
> > wrote:  
> > >
> > > Hi John!
> > >
> > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:47:21 +0100
> > > John Erling Blad  wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Could we please update them with a slightly more up-to-date skin?
> > > >
> > > > Take a look at our Norwegian competitor in the lexicon field.
> > > > https://snl.no/kunstig_intelligens
> > > >  
> > >
> > > I took a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and it doesn't
> > > look anything like a geocities/etc. site from the 90s, and I feel it
> > > doesn't look bad.
> > >
> > > For the record that was my site at around 1998 -
> > > https://old-1998-site.shlomifish.org/ and people complained enough that my
> > > current site looks like "[insert  year here]" that I added a FAQ entry:
> > >
> > > https://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/site_looks_old.xhtml
> > >
> > > See https://everybootstrap.site/ for how many contemporary sites look
> > > like.
> > >
> > > Someone on freenode told me he thinks plain black-on-white sites look
> > > great.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Shlomi
> > >  
> > > > John Erling Blad
> > > > /jeblad
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi John!

On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:47:21 +0100
John Erling Blad  wrote:

> Could we please update them with a slightly more up-to-date skin?
> 
> Take a look at our Norwegian competitor in the lexicon field.
> https://snl.no/kunstig_intelligens
> 

I took a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and it doesn't look
anything like a geocities/etc. site from the 90s, and I feel it doesn't look
bad.

For the record that was my site at around 1998 -
https://old-1998-site.shlomifish.org/ and people complained enough that my
current site looks like "[insert  year here]" that I added a FAQ entry:

https://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/site_looks_old.xhtml

See https://everybootstrap.site/ for how many contemporary sites look like.

Someone on freenode told me he thinks plain black-on-white sites look great.

Regards,

Shlomi

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration with Indonesian Air Force

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On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:50:57 +0700
Biyanto Rebin  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> We are happy to announce that Wikimedia Indonesia will collaborate with
> Indonesian Air Force to provide free access for their museum collection to
> wider audiences. We are starting to upload and provide the QR code to their
> collection.
> 
> Thank Misdianto (User:NaidNdeso
> <https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pengguna:NaidNdeso>), our community member,
> who connect us with the IAF.
> 
> Source:
> https://tni-au.mil.id/sajikan-informasi-digital-dispenau-gandeng-wikimedia/
> English version:
> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=id=en=https%3A%2F%2Ftni-au.mil.id%2Fsajikan-informasi-digital-dispenau-gandeng-wikimedia%2F
> 
> All the best from Indonesia.
> 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Aboluay

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On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 12:20:41 -0700
Pine W  wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
> 
> The community has learned of the passing of User:Aboluay (on Arabic
> Wikipedia at
> https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Aboluay,
> and on English Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aboluay). He
> contributed over 21,000 edits to Arabic Wikipedia, and also participated in
> other projects including Wikidata, English Wikipedia, and Commons. An
> announcement of his passing was made on Facebook at
> https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157063852790590=501825589
> .
> 
> May he rest in peace.
> 

Sorry to hear that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Math

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On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 18:56:11 -0400
Kirill Lokshin  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedia Community User Group Math [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to coordinate global activities to improve the display and
> retrieval of mathematical expressions, with the long-term objective of
> making mathematical knowledge better accessible to every human being.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations.

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Math
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Dehalvi Wikimedia Community User Group

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On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 18:54:28 -0400
Kirill Lokshin  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Dehalvi Wikimedia Community User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group aims to promote Urdu-language Wikimedia projects in India.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations.

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Dehalvi_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dehalvi_Wikimedia_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Africa Day: keyboards for all the languages of Africa

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On Sat, 25 May 2019 10:19:45 +0300
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> Hello, and happy Africa day!
> 
> [ crossposted to African Wikimedians list, general Wikimedia list, and
> mediawiki-i18n ]
> 
> To celebrate this, I am announcing the completion of a little pet project
> that I started a year ago: it is now easy to type in all the languages of
> Africa in which there is a Wikipedia or an active Incubator.
> 
> This is available in all Wikimedia projects and in translatewiki.net. This
> release is intended for desktop and laptop computers. For mobile phones and
> tablets, I strongly recommend trying apps such as Gboard, SwiftKey, or
> African Keyboard.
> 
> For full details and project description see this blog post:
> https://aharoni.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/happy-africa-day-keyboards-for-all-african-wikipedia-languages/
> 
> Or jump straight into the (easy!!!) technical documentation here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector/Input_methods/Africa
> 
> These keyboards were tested by myself, and some of them were also tested by
> a few other people who speak these languages, and as far as I know they are
> easy to enable and disable and the work correctly. However, it's possible
> that some things are missing: I could have missed some letters, I could
> have made mistakes in documentation, I could have missed some languages.
> Please contact me if you find any problems.
> 

Thanks for your work.

> Thanks!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group

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On Sun, 12 May 2019 11:41:53 -0400
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to support the community of active contributors that develop
> content about Bénin, its story, culture, and people; to promote Beninese
> indigenous languages on Wikipedia and its sister projects; and to develop
> partnerships with national and international institutions to promote use of
> and contribution to Wikipedia.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimédiens_du_Bénin_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimédiens_du_Bénin_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiClassics User Group

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On Sun, 12 May 2019 11:43:22 -0400
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the WikiClassics User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to improve the quantity and quality of information about classical
> antiquity on the Wikimedia projects.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_WikiClassics_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Belated notification of the passing of User:Corinne

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On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 23:04:31 -0800
Pine W  wrote:

> Dear colleagues of Wikimedia-l,
> 
> I learned today of the 2018 passing of User:Corinne. I feel that Corinne's
> substantial contributions to Wikimedia merit forwarding the news of her
> passing to this email list [0]. Corinne had a Master's degree in Teaching
> English to Speakers of Other Languages. User:Miniapolis wrote, "Corinne was
> a fellow coordinator of the Guild of Copy Editors, and we had come to know
> each other off-wiki as well. Corinne's specialty was request articles, and
> her copyediting skill (second to none) was a factor in many Good and
> Featured Articles." Corinne made over 25,000 contributions to English
> Wikipedia.
> 
> 
> Contributors have written memorials on her talk page [1]. She was
> posthumously added to the Guild of Copy Editors Hall of Fame.
> 

Sorry to hear that. My condolences.

> May she rest in peace.
> 
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> 
> 
> [0]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=833499445#Passing_of_Alice_Dacuba_(User:Corinne)
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Corinne#You_will_be_missed
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell, Erik!

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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:50:52 -0800
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> Thanks so so much for your great contributions to the Wikimedia Movement,
> Erik!
> 
> Regards, Scott
> 
> - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_WorldUnivAndSch
> 

Thanks, Erik!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lisa Lewin joining Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:45:00 +0100
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> Dear all,
> 
> I am  very happy to share news with you of our latest appointment to the
> Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Please join me in welcoming Lisa
> Lewin as our newest Trustee!
> 
> Lisa Lewin is Managing Partner at Ethical Ventures, a New York City based
> management consulting firm. She has worked in strategic growth and
> development her whole career, helping launch new ventures and increase the
> impact and growth potential of legacy businesses. Her professional focus
> has always been at the intersection of technology and learning - and we are
> very fortunate to have her as a part of our team!
> 
> Below is the official announcement.[1] Welcome, Lisa, and I look forward to
> working with you!

welcome, and good luck!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikipedians of Slovenia User Group

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 20:49:45 -0500
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikipedians of Slovenia User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The group aims to aid and encourage people to collect, develop and
> disseminate freely licensed educational content with a focus on
> Slovene-speaking areas, to encourage public and private galleries,
> libraries, archives and museums in Slovenia to make their holdings more
> broadly and freely available, and to collaborate with these institutions in
> an effort to preserve Slovenian heritage.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

congratulations and good luck!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikipedians_of_Slovenia_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedians_of_Slovenia_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Kerala User Group

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On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:41:09 -0400
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikimedians of Kerala User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group will be working on various Wikimedia projects related to the
> Malayalam language.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

congratulations!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Kerala_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedistas de Bolivia User Group

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On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:47:10 -0400
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikimedistas de Bolivia User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> The group aims to collect, gather, develop and disseminate knowledge about
> Bolivian culture and related topics in different languages, and especially
> in the languages of the nations and native indigenous peoples of Bolivia.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

congrats!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedistas_de_Bolivia
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedistas_de_Bolivia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Vietnam Wikimedians User Group

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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:43:18 -0400
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Vietnam Wikimedians User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to encourage and promote participation and contribution to the
> Wikimedia projects by Vietnamese-speaking users.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

congratulations!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_Wikimedians_of_Vietnam_Wikimedians_User_Group
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[Wikimedia-l] [OT] Informative page about viruses on Linux

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi all,

this link is somewhat offtopic, but relevant to an earlier discussion:

http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/

it seems well-researched and informative.

Among other things, it tries to refute the common argument that Linux will have
a virus popular when and if it becomes more popular.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel joins the nationwide strike to protest the exclusion of gay couples the right to become parents

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 17:40:49 -0400
Nathan  wrote:

> I think Andrea's post perfectly illustrates the risk to WMF and WM
> affiliates of embracing political positions outside the core mission of the
> projects. The number of worthy causes is near infinite; every time you
> endorse one you please some people and make many other people wonder why
> you considered other causes less important.

I agree. +1.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel joins the nationwide strike to protest the exclusion of gay couples the right to become parents

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Itzik,

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:57:12 +0300
Itzik - Wikimedia Israel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A few days ago, the Israeli parliament, with the support of Israeli Prime
> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, blocked a legal change on that would have
> given the LGBT community the right to become parents. The new law denies
> state-supported surrogacy to LGBT couples and single men.
> 
> In response, Israel’s LGBT Task Force called publicly for a strike on
> Sunday, "The LGBT community is calling upon you, the LGBT and community
> supporters, to join us in a one-day nationwide strike on Sunday, July 22,
> Tisha Be’av".
> 

I do not oppose the LGBT movement, but please explain how an official support
of that falls under the global Wikimedia project's mission, and does not
dilute our policy of avoiding having a stance on issues that are unrelated to
it?

Regards,

Shlomi

> During the last few days, a huge list of big companies and organizations in
> Israel *publicized *their support and joined the strike by allowing their
> employees to take a paid day off work to join the nationwide protest.
> 
> This morning, the board of Wikimedia Israel, alongside with other
> organizations joined this call and published this announcement:
> https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIL/posts/1716487061739276
> https://twitter.com/WikimediaIL/status/1020214512392302592
> <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIL/posts/1716487061739276>
> 
> *"Wikimedia Israel supports the just struggle for full equality, led by the
> Israeli LGTBQ community.*
> 
> *Equality to every woman and man, regardless of gender, sexual preference,
> religion, origin, or disability is a central value in the international
> Wikimedia Movement. *
> 
> *The current outcry for the right for parenthood, indiscriminate medical
> treatment, and protection against violent statements by public figures
> against the LGTBQ community, is a part of the grand and continuous struggle
> for full rights and legitimacy to the Israeli LGTBQ community, and we
> support them in their struggle."*
> 
> 
> 
> *Itzik Edri*
> Chairperson
> it...@wikimedia.org.il
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2 millions articles for the French Wikipedia

[Shlomi Fish]

On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 09:36:20 +0200
Thierry Coudray  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> La grande nouvelle du jour / the big news today : the French Wikipedia
> reached two millions articles a few hours ago  !
> 
> The fr.wp community has written a press release for this milestone with
> subpages for more explanations and get new people to edit WP.
> and, off course, a commemorative logo community will be displayed.
> 
> Merci à tous les contributeurs / Thanks for all the editors.
> 

Congratulations and thanks!

> 
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spécial:Statistiques
> 
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Deux_millions_d'articles_en_français
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia has reached 1 Million articles created

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:57:24 -0300
Lucas Teles  wrote:

> Hello, folks!
> 
> I am pleased to report that Portuguese Wikipedia reached 1 Million articles
> created yesterday. [1]
> 
> Community voted for a commemorative logo and set a sitenotice banner with a
> statement mentioning the milestone. [2]
> 

congratulations!

> Thanks to the volunteers and supporters!
> 
> Links:
> [1] https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estat%C3%ADsticas
> 
> [2]
> https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Um_milh%C3%A3o_de_artigos
> 
> Teles



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russia's First Paper Encyclopedia on Wikimedia Commons

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:11:41 +0300
Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin  wrote:

> «Вся Россия» ("Vs'a Rossiya" / Eng. "All of Russia") Russian-language paper
> encyclopedia  switches to Creative Commons free license.
> 
> Encyclopedia's materials about 1448 settlements of the Russian Federation can
> now be used / quoted directly in Russian and translated into other languages.
> 
> * Wikimedia Russia press-release
> https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Пресс-релизы/Первая_бумажная_энциклопедия_в_России_под_свободной_лицензией
> 
> * Russian Wikinews
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Первая_бумажная_энциклопедия_в_России_перешла_на_свободную_лицензию
> 
> * File on Wikimedia Commons
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vcja_Rossia.pdf
> 
> * Russian Wikipedia article about the Encyclopedia
> https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вся_Россия_(энциклопедия)
> 

thanks for that!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Anti-viruses [was Re: Information on "Multiple failed attempts to log in" emails]

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Gabriel,

On Mon, 7 May 2018 14:02:44 +0100
Gabriel Thullen <gabr...@thullen.com> wrote:

> I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
> been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP than
> there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
> something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
> included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem for
> linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
> 

Most linux viruses have never outbroke and never caused much harm. Linux can be
susceptible to other forms of malware such as worms or rootkits, but it hasyet
to exhibit a large scale virus epidemic and it isnt because it wasn't tried.
Linux is an attractive target because many servers run on it. See also
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+viruses=web

Regards,

Shlomi

> Gabe
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Shabab Mustafa <shabab.must...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my past
> > experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion about
> > people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here). But I
> > respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs usually do
> > more harm than good".
> >
> > From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to have than
> > no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
> > mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a weaker
> > point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
> > successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
> >
> > ---
> > Shabab Mustafa
> > President
> > Wikimedia Bangladesh
> >
> > ​
> >
> > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:56 PM Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org> wrote:
> >  
> > > On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
> > > John Bennett <jbenn...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours
> > > > warning  
> > > you  
> > > > of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted to  
> > > let  
> > > > you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of the
> > > > situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to  
> > > decrease  
> > > > the success of attacks like these.
> > > >
> > > > The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
> > > > systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized  
> > access  
> > > to  
> > > > random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
> > > > websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
> > > > unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number of
> > > > accounts which we believe have been compromised.
> > > >
> > > > While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security
> > > > systems  
> > > and  
> > > > processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these, the  
> > > best  
> > > > method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
> > > > safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the  
> > past  
> > > > to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we  
> > continue  
> > > > to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
> > > > computer and account. That includes regularly changing your  
> > passwords,[2]  
> > > > actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
> > > > system software up to date.
> > > >  
> > >
> > > From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good.  
> > For  
> > > example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently blocked
> > > my
> > > entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an
> > > executable
> > > download as problematic (and it was built from source using
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
> > > so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance to
> > > malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
> > > http://www.shlomifi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Anti-viruses [was Re: Information on "Multiple failed attempts to log in" emails]

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi,

On Mon, 07 May 2018 13:20:22 +
Eduardo Testart <etest...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Shlomi,
> 
> I believe that the problem is with your particular brand of antivirus,
> eventhough they all block a bit more or less to prevent certain risks.
> 
> Nevertheless, making an extrapolation to every antivirus from the
> experience with only one brand, and concluding "they do more harm than
> good" based on that, seems a bit off.
> 

this was just one example. I have heard of many similar problems with others.
Just try subscribing to gimp-user ( https://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html ) or
chatting on freenode for a while and you will see.


> 
> Cheers!
> 
> El lun., may. 7, 2018 10:02, Gabriel Thullen <gabr...@thullen.com> escribió:
> 
> > I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
> > been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP than
> > there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
> > something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
> > included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem for
> > linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Shabab Mustafa <shabab.must...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my past
> > > experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion  
> > about  
> > > people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here). But I
> > > respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs usually  
> > do  
> > > more harm than good".
> > >
> > > From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to have  
> > than  
> > > no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
> > > mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a weaker
> > > point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
> > > successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Shabab Mustafa
> > > President
> > > Wikimedia Bangladesh
> > >
> > > ​
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:56 PM Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org>  
> > wrote:  
> > >  
> > > > On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
> > > > John Bennett <jbenn...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours  
> > warning  
> > > > you  
> > > > > of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted  
> > to  
> > > > let  
> > > > > you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of  
> > the  
> > > > > situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to  
> > > > decrease  
> > > > > the success of attacks like these.
> > > > >
> > > > > The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
> > > > > systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized  
> > > access  
> > > > to  
> > > > > random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
> > > > > websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
> > > > > unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number  
> > of  
> > > > > accounts which we believe have been compromised.
> > > > >
> > > > > While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security  
> > systems  
> > > > and  
> > > > > processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these,  
> > the  
> > > > best  
> > > > > method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
> > > > > safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the  
> > > past  
> > > > > to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we  
> > > continue  
> > > > > to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
> > > > > computer and account. That includes regularly changing your  
> > > passwords,[2]  
> > > > > actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
> > > > > system software 

[Wikimedia-l] Anti-viruses [was Re: Information on "Multiple failed attempts to log in" emails]

[Shlomi Fish]

On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
John Bennett <jbenn...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours warning you
> of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted to let
> you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of the
> situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to decrease
> the success of attacks like these.
> 
> The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
> systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized access to
> random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
> websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
> unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number of
> accounts which we believe have been compromised.
> 
> While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security systems and
> processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these, the best
> method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
> safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the past
> to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we continue
> to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
> computer and account. That includes regularly changing your passwords,[2]
> actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
> system software up to date.
> 

From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good. For
example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently blocked my
entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an executable
download as problematic (and it was built from source using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance to
malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are the reasons
why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one should use
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or similar.

A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.

> My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back if we
> notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please contact
> the Support and Safety team (susa{{@}}wikimedia.org).
> 
> John Bennett
> Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Craig Franklin passed away

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:56:43 -0700
Lodewijk  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Through various other channels I learned the unfortunate news that Craig
> Franklin (Lankiveil) has recently passed away. He was a board member
> (2011-2015) and president (2013) at Wikimedia Australia, longtime English
> Wikipedian and admin, and until this month he was member of the Ombudsman
> Commission.
> 
> Craig was a lively participant in many of our meetings/conferences, and it
> was always a joy to see him enter a discussion.
> 
> Condoleances are being collected on his user talk page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lankiveil
> 

sorry to hear that,

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> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:32:34 -0400
Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru (Wikimedia Community User Group
> Wales) [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to promote the
> Wikimedia movement in Wales and support the development of Wikimedia
> projects and content in the Welsh language.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

congratulations!

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Wales
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Don Wikimedians User Group

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:40:30 -0500
Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Don Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group's
> goals are the development and dissemination of free knowledge about the Don
> region and Cossack culture, and the promotion of Wikimedia projects in the
> Don region.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

congratulations and good luck.

> Regards,
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> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User:Bhadani has passed

[Shlomi Fish]

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 07:56:01 +0600
"Md. Ibrahim Husain" <mera...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Our fellow Wikipedian Gangadhar Bhadani has passed away 8th February 2018.
> He was one of the active Indian Wikipedians on English passionately
> contributing since 2005.
> May his soul rest in peace.
> 

sorry to hear that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User Halibutt has passed

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 22:24:09 +0100
Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska <natalia.szaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am sad to inform you that today Krzysztof Machocki (user:Halibutt) has
> passed away. With his passing our community loses a brilliant and
> passionate Wikimedian and Wikimedia Polska loses a valued spokeperson. But
> what is the most important - many of us lose a beloved, beloved friend.
> 
> Krzysztof was known for his joy and passion. For his faith in how Wikipedia
> makes the world better.
> We lose him but let us not lose that faith.
> 
> There is a memorial page on Polish Wikipedia. You can leave your
> condolences there and we will give them to Krzysztof's family.
> 
> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Halibutt/Ksi%C4%99ga
> 
> 

Sorry to hear about that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lower page views

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:55:07 +0100
Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se> wrote:

> We are seeing a steady decrease of page views to our projects 
> (Wikipedia). Nov-Dec-Jan it is decreasing in a rate of 5-10% 
> (year-year), and for big languages like Japanese,  Spanish close to 10%, 
> or some months even more  [1]
> 
> Is there any insights of why this is so? Could it be that Google take 
> over accesses with their ever better way of showing results direct  (but 
> then also with showing extracts of Wikipedia articles) . 

I think this is a likely contributing cause.

> Or that our 
> interface on mobiles is inferior so we miss accesses from mobiles (now 
> being 54% of total). Or horror of horror that users look for facts on 
> all new sites with fake news instead of Wikipedia?
> 
> Anders
> 
> [1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Austin Hair is gone

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:51:30 +0200
Asaf Bartov <asaf.bar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
> 
> I regret to have to inform this list that veteran Wikimedian and longtime
> volunteer administrator of this mailing list, Austin Hair (User:Austin
> Hair), has died, after prolonged health complications.
> 
> If you knew him, a good place to leave condolences is his talk page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Austin_Hair#Condolences
> 
> Life is short. Be kind to one another.
> 

sorry to hear that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia mocks expert contributor

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Hi Renee and all,

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 17:49:39 +
Renée Bagslint <reneebagsl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A recent Signpost piece, "Good faith gibberish",
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-11-24/Humour=811658169
> chooses to mock the claimed incomprehensibility of certain Wikipedia
> articles, two of which are mathematics articles by the same author.  There
> are three things which, taken together make this a matter of concern to the
> wider community.
> 
> Firstly, the article is by an account self-described "as a WP Visiting
> Scholar, and Wikipedian in Residence".  It is thereby flagged as an
> emanation of the movement.
> 
> Secondly, the alleged incomprehensibility of the mathematics articles,
> which are correct and succinct, is entirely attributable to the ignorance
> of the Signpost's author and editors.  Even those completely ignorant of
> mathematics could have used Google Books to discover that the
> Federer--Morse Theorem is not, as suggested, a hoax.
> 
> Thirdly, the author selected for mockery in this way, user:r.e.b., is not
> only an expert, but an extremely distinguished mathematician, at a level
> equivalent to a Nobel prize-winner in another discipline.  He has written
> numerous articles on mathematics and I have long thought that Wikipedia
> scarcely deserves his work.  Now I'm sure of it.
> 

First of all note that I appreciate r.e.b's contributions and thank him for
them.

That put aside: that article is clearly marked as "humour" based on the URL.
Should it still be taken seriously? Furthermore, how much do Signpost humour
articles reflect the official stance of the Wikimedia Foundation? Finally, note
that it is expected that one's work will face some criticism, either valid or
false, and one should learn to cope with it. I've written about it here -
http://shlomifishswiki.branchable.com/Encourage_criticism_and_try_to_get_offended/
and here -
http://shlomifishswiki.branchable.com/Never_Try_to_Please_Everyone/ .

I'm not saying that signpost piece is commendable, but it should be taken in
proportion.


> So there we have it.  A Wikpedian-in-Residence makes it clear that "experts
> are scum".  Is this the message the community chooses to present going
> forward?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia is an Excellent Information Source for Medical Students, Study Finds.

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Hi,

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:09:51 -0600
James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A study, published on Oct 31st, 2017 in the Journal of Medical
> Internet Research Medical Education, has found that Wikipedia helps
> Canadian medical students improve their knowledge of medical content.
> Wikipedia was compared to UpToDate, a subscription based online
> medical resource, and a standard medical textbook.
> 

good to hear! Thanks for sharing.

> The authors conducted a randomized controlled trial of 116 medical
> students from four Canadian medical schools. Students initially wrote
> a multiple choice exam similar to that used for licensing Canadian
> physicians. They were then randomized to one of three electronic
> resources, Wikipedia, UpToDate, or Harrison’s textbook of Internal
> Medicine and had 30 minutes to use their assigned resource. During
> this time, they were observed for compliance and had the opportunity
> to take notes. The students then rewrote their original exam, armed
> with the notes taken while using their resource.
> 
> The primary outcome was improvement in tests scores before and after
> accessing the assigned resource. The authors found that medical
> students assigned to Wikipedia had a statistically significant greater
> improvement in test scores, compared to the medical textbook and a
> trend towards improved performance as compared to UpToDate.
> 
> Full study available under an open license at
> https://mededu.jmir.org/2017/2/e20/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

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Hi,

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:15:36 +0530
Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Introducing myself, I am Krishna Chaitanya Velaga from Andhra Pradesh,
> India. My user name is "Krishna Chaitanya Velaga", I've been actively
> contributing to en Wikipedia and Commons since December 2014. I also form
> the Executive Committee of Wikimedia Chapter (India). My mother tongue is
> Telugu (te).
> 
> A Telugu movie titled Paisa Vasool
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisa_Vasool_(2017_film)> was released on 1
> September 2017. In the movie, male lead boasts himself by referring to
> Wikipedia. His statement in the movie is as follows: *"36 brawls, 24
> murders, 36 stabbings, This is visible record in Wikipedia" *(The same may
> be observed from the trailer of the movie, between 0:22 to 0:32 at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVUZ-jG_i3c). As far I am concerned I feel
> this as serious defamation of the brand, the community and the work we do.
> It really degrades the reality and the efforts we put to produce
> encyclopedic content to the readers.
> 
> In this context, I request the community to take interest in their to voice
> their opinions, and also discuss any legal action to be enforced.
> 

I don't see what the big deal is. Since this is a work of fiction, it may
misrepresent facts and reality and its users are expected to know better than
to depend of it as a source.

If we try to censor this film, then it will be an act of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship which i and other free content
advocates dislike. If instead we sue for damages, then we will come out as
bullies. Also see
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/there-is-no-such-thing-as-bad-publicity.html
and http://www.veronikanoize.com/is_all_publicity_good_ . Don't worry - be
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] French executive director

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On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 13:37:24 +0200
Samuel Le Goff <samuel.legof...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> The Board of wikimedia France wishes to inform you that Ms Nathalie
> Martin is leaving her position as executive director of Wikimédia
> France.
> A hiring process will be organised in the coming weeks to find a
> suitable replacement.
> In the meantime, secretary general Cyrille Bertin will assume
> management as interim director.
> 
> The Board warmly thanks Nathalie for everything she accomplished for
> our chapter, and wishes her the best in future endeavours.
> 

Thanks Nathalie, and good luck!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi all,

On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:51:02 -0400
"Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > New Native feel:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1718_
> > 0823_en6C_dsk_p1_lg_dsn_native=1=US=QA
> >  
> 
> Personally, I really dislike banners that try to pretend to be content.
> This one makes it look like the page is an article titled "To all our
> readers in the U.S." rather than a page with a banner on it.
> 

to me the new banner looks more attractive, less intrusive and cleaner, but I
agree with Brad's sentiment that it looks too much like the main page's
content. Just my 20 agoroth.

Regards,

    Shlomi

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sharing sad news about Bassel

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 19:00:19 -0400
Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I am very deeply saddened to share the news of the passing of our fellow
> community member Bassel Khartabil, also known to some as Bassel Safadi.
> 
> Bassel was detained on March 15, 2012 amid arrests on the one-year
> anniversary of the Syrian uprising. He had been missing since October 2015,
> when he was removed from the Syrian prison where he was being held. His
> wife, Noura, confirmed earlier today in a statement on Facebook that he was
> executed by the Syrian government shortly after his disappearance.
> 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please welcome new chair for Wikimedia UK

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On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:34:10 +0100
Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote:

> Dear friends
> 
> At today's AGM, three trustees (Doug Taylor, Nick Poole and me) were
> re-elected to the board.
> 
> I have today retired as chair, and the role has been taken by my colleague
> Josie Fraser. I'll be remaining on the board as an ordinary board member to
> support Josie until my new term expires in two years time. 
> 
> Our board lineup is now:
> 
> Josie Fraser - Chair
> Carol Campbell - Vice-chair
> Greyham Dawes - Treasurer
> Kate West  - HR trustee
> Nancy Bell - Trustee
> Lorna Campbell  - Trustee
> Jordan Landes  - Trustee
> Nick Poole - Trustee
> Doug Taylor - Trustee
> Michael Maggs - Trustee
> 
> Please join me in welcoming Josie as our new Chair. 
> 

Welcome Josie! And good luck.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [fellowship] Opportunity for people working on "open projects that support a healthy Internet."

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Hi Mel,

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:26:14 -0400
Melody Kramer <mkra...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I wanted to pass along an opportunity that I saw earlier today via Twitter:
> https://medium.com/read-write-participate/work-in-the-open-
> with-mozilla-1410be0a83b2
> 

this is a note that the two URLs you have given in the message were split into
two by newlines, making them broken. See:

* https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-July/087999.html

Please try to fix your email client.

Regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Cameroon User Group

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On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:35:14 -0400
Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Wikimedians of Cameroon User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group aims to support the community of Cameroonian Wikimedians and to
> promote the Wikimedia projects in Cameroon.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Odia Wikimedians User Group

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On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:32:45 -0400
Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Odia Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to bring together contributors to Odia-language Wikimedia projects, as
> well as individuals who contribute to other Wikimedia projects on topics
> related to the Odia language, the Odia people, and the Indian state of
> Odisha.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 

Congratulations! And good luck in the future.

> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Odia_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Hindi Wikimedians User Group

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On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 20:05:02 -0400
Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Hindi Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to advance the work of the Wikimedia movement in the Hindi language.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!

Congrastulations! And good luck in the future.

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> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hindi_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Hindi Wikimedians User Group

[Shlomi Fish]

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 20:05:02 -0400
Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Hindi Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to advance the work of the Wikimedia movement in the Hindi language.
> 
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> 
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
> 
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hindi_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Results of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

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On Sun, 21 May 2017 00:32:40 +
matanya moses <mata...@foss.co.il> wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> The certified results of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> election are now available on Meta-Wiki:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2017/Results 
> 
> Congratulations to María Sefidari (User:Raystorm), Dariusz Jemielniak
> (User:pundit), and James Heilman (User:Doc James) for receiving the most
> community support. Subject to a standard background check, they will be
> appointed by the Board at their August meeting at Wikimania.
> 
> These results have been certified by the elections committee, the Wikimedia
> Foundation staff advisors to the committee, and the Board of Trustees.
> 
> There were 5,581 votes cast, with 5,120 of those being valid. The 461-vote
> difference comes from recast ballots, where eligible voters recast ballots to
> change their votes, and struck votes, of which there were 34. (Some of the
> recast votes were also struck.)

Congratulations and good luck!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of vi:User:Lê Thy

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On Sun, 14 May 2017 11:04:13 -0700
Minh Nguyen <m...@1ec5.org> wrote:

> The Vietnamese Wikipedia community is saddened to learn that Lê Thy [1], 
> until recently one of our administrators, has passed away after a fight 
> with cancer. [2][3] Thy wrote about Vietnam's modern history, amassing 
> over 12,000 edits over two years. Outside of Wikipedia, he was a 
> restaurant owner and avid cyclist.
> 
> Our condolences to his family. May he rest in peace.
> 
> [1] https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A0nh_vi%C3%AAn:L%C3%AA_Thy
> [2] https://www.facebook.com/phuongnamnb/posts/1587796554565783
> [3] 
> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn_Th%C3%A0nh_vi%C3%AAn:L%C3%AA_Thy#V.C4.A9nh_bi.E1.BB.87t
> 

sorry to hear about that. RIP.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 2 April 2017)

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Pine [and all]!

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 23:28:40 -0700
Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm grateful to hear about the goodwill, hope, and energy at the Wikimedia
> Conference in Berlin. I get the impression that most people felt that the
> conference was a positive experience.
> 

Nice! I'm glad to hear.

> Many photos of the conference have already appeared on Commons. To
> highlight a few:
> 
> Hopes for the conference:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Conference_2017_%E2%80%93_65.jpg
> 
> Ideas:
> 
> 1.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Conference_2017_%E2%80%93_39.jpg
> 
> 2.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Conference_2017_%E2%80%93_40.jpg
> 
> 3.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Conference_2017_%E2%80%93_41.jpg
> 
> 4.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Conference_2017_%E2%80%93_42.jpg
> 
> People:
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Conference_2017_%E2%80%93_Group_photos
> 
> What's making you happy this week?
> 

Well, I was happy that two of my Reddit subreddits' posts proved popular and
sparked some discussion over there. I also started setting up this page on my
personal wiki (based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikiwiki ) for the ongoing
"/dev/null is WebScale" meme -
http://shlomifishswiki.branchable.com/slash-dev-null_is_WebScale/ . There was
also a facebook discussion about it, but I'll have to ask the person I talked
with for permission to share it - it was both amusing and insightful.

Anyway, I'm not too active on wikimedia wikis - mostly just fixing typos and
doing other cleanups as I go.

The other day someone on freenode spelled "exercise" as "exercize", twice in
the same sentence, and when I pointed to him that it was not the correct
spelling, he insisted it was the American English spelling. However, both
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=exercize=8jsnwk7uwxs57egwx936j59d9
and https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exercize agreed with me that it
was not a correct spelling, even in American English. And he claimed I was
trolling. Oh well.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help! Can't save on any Wikipedia

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi all,

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:28:47 +
geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 22 February 2017 at 12:06, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Am good now :). Thanks all.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > - Enock
> >  
> 
> this is one of the reasons I keep a secondary browser for wikipedia
> stuff only. I'd recommend seamonkey
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey or Vivaldi
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

One can also use a different "profile" of firefox/etc. which supports running
several browsers with different profiles simultaneously, all in the same user
and the same session. See:

* https://duckduckgo.com/?q=firefox+profiles=web

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] List administration

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:26:04 +
Austin Hair <adh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ​​
> After what Asaf and I agree was a sufficient time for a call for
> candidates, we've appointed two new list administrators.
> 
> Please welcome Shani Evenstein and John Mark Vandenberg as your new list
> overlords.
> 

Welcome aboard! And thanks!

> Austin
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes at WMF

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Hi Wes,

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 12:19:03 -0500
Wes Moran <wmo...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> After a great deal of consideration, I have decided that I need to take a
> different path for my life and I am moving on from the Wikimedia
> Foundation.  I have struggled with this decision as I have great admiration
> for the mission and the people here. I have great appreciation for how we
> worked together over the past two years, and great pride in what we have
> accomplished. The wide range of experiences have been amazing, and it feels
> like many more years than just two.
> 

Thanks for everything and good luck in your future endeavours.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Danish Wikipedia turns 15

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On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 01:22:47 +0200
attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Happy Birthday! ;)
> 
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> 

Congratulations and happy birthday.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Abraham Taherivand appointed permanent Executive Director

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Hi all!

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:22:58 -0800
Dan Garry <dga...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> More excellent news from WMDE! Congratulations again, Abraham. :-)
> 
> Dan

Congratulations, Abraham and good luck in your new role!

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> 
> On 30 January 2017 at 07:57, Tim Moritz Hector <
> tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > It is our great pleasure to announce that during last weekend’s Board
> > retreat, we voted to appoint Abraham Taherivand as Executive Director of
> > Wikimedia Deutschland with immediate effect.
> >
> > Abraham has joined Wikimedia Deutschland in 2012, has been the director of
> > our Software Development department, and interim ED in the past two months.
> > In all his roles he has shown vast experience and qualifications as well as
> > the much needed, deep commitment for Free Knowledge. We are convinced that
> > Abraham is the right person at the right time for Wikimedia Deutschland and
> > have great confidence that the management of the office is in good hands
> > with him. Abraham will continue to lead the Software Development department
> > on an interim basis until we have been able to fill this position with a
> > new permanent director.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Danveg, and reminder about people in distress

[Shlomi Fish]

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 20:35:01 -0800
Pine W  wrote:

> Hello colleagues,
> 
> Michal Lester from Wikimedia Israel and Tsipi Erann from Wikiwomen recently
> sent an email to the Gendergap mailing list regarding the passing of
> User:Danveg.
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2017-January/006453.html.
> Condolences to her family and friends. A memorial project has been
> established on Hebrew Wikipedia at
> https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%9E%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%9E%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%A9%D7%99_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99_%D7%A0%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9D/DanVeg_Memorial_Trans_Project
> .
> 

I am terribly sorry to hear about that. My consolences go to her family and
friends.


> I would like to remind all of us that there may be people in our community
> who are experiencing personal difficulties or distress, and that
> professional resources may be available to assist. As with many situations,
> I think that getting help before a situation becomes a crisis is
> preferable, and I would encourage people to take the courageous step to do
> so. Emotional support from friends and family, professional counseling, and
> medicines may all be helpful in helping someone. The Mayo Clinic provides a
> resource called "Depression: Supporting a family member or friend":
> http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/depression/ART-20045943.
> Quoting the Mayo Clinic page: "People with depression may not recognize or
> acknowledge that they're depressed. They may not be aware of signs and
> symptoms of depression, so they may think their feelings are normal. All
> too often, people feel ashamed about their depression and mistakenly
> believe they should be able to overcome it with willpower alone. But
> depression seldom gets better without treatment and may get worse. With the
> right treatment approach, the person you care about can get better." If you
> or someone you know is in distress, or is frequently sad, then I would
> encourage reaching out for professional support.
> 
> In the circumstance that an on-wiki situation does become an emergency,
> includes a threat of harm, *or* if someone discusses harm and you aren't
> sure how serious the threat is, English Wikipedia has the following
> resource, which includes information about how to Wikipedians are
> encouraged to respond if someone on-wiki appears to be suicidal:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Responding_to_threats_of_harm.
> Alternatively, if an off-wiki situation appears to be an emergency,
> includes a threat of harm, *or* includes a threat that you don't know how
> to evaluate, then please contact the local emergency services.
> 
> Sometimes life is stressful and sad for almost everyone. If you or someone
> you know is overwhelmed, frequently feels sad or discouraged, or is
> distressed, then please reach out for professional support. Rather than
> attempting to go through the dark night alone, or if you see someone else
> who is struggling with their challenges, please ask for help.
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brosen_sunrise.jpg
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Maithili Wikipedia surpasses 10k articles

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi and happy new year,

On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 13:01:35 +0545
Biplab Anand <biplaban...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am delighted to share with you that Maithili Wikipedia has reached 10,000
> articles <https://mai.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics>.
>

Congratulations! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maithili_language - I see... :-)

Regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congratulation, Hebrew Wikipedia

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi all!

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:10:57 +0200
Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm happy to share with you that this morning the 200,000th article has
> been written on the Hebrew Wikipedia - The Southern Pudu (there is not
> article about him in English!):
> https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%95_%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99
> 
> Yesterday we released to the press a list of the top 20 most viewed
> articles on HEWP during the last year. Most of the news outlets in Israel
> published the list, but alongside the list, we added also some statistics:
> An average of 45 articles are written on by 760 active editors and 150 very
> active editors. The number of very active editors increased by 20% compare
> to last year [1] - while number globally increased only by 0.11% [2] and 0%
> on ENWP [3] .
> 
> We are really proud of the Hebrew community and Wikimedia Israel volunteers
> who run and support great projects and initiatives, alongside the community
> members, to consistently increase the number of editors and their activity.
> This achievement is thanks to their efforts!.
> 
> 
> Happy near year from Israel!
> 

Congratulations and מזל טוב (= Mazal Tov) from a fellow Israeli and Hebrew
speaker wikimedian!

Regards,

Shlomi Fish



> 
> Some of the coverage about the most viewed articles on HEWP:
> 
>- http://net.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1225240
>-
>
> http://www.mako.co.il/news-money/tech-q4_2016/Article-c3f561fba944951004.htm
>-
>
> http://reshet.tv/item/news/economics/computers-science-technology/wikipedia-most-read-2016-79561/
>- http://hakolkalul.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1225272 (minute
>21:15)
>-
>
> http://www.mako.co.il/news-channel2/first-edition-q4_2016/Article-c7cea84f8464951004.htm?sCh=e3be6603e7478110=25483675
>(minute 38:39)
>- http://www.calcalist.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3704729,00.html
>- http://www.ch10.co.il/news/335964/#.WGUkkht97mE
>- http://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/439575
>- http://mizbala.com/news/117472
>- http://www.maariv.co.il/news/israel/Article-568404
>- http://www.kipa.co.il/tarbut/70410.html
>- http://www.kipa.co.il/tarbut/70410.html
>- http://www.pc.co.il/it-news/231238/
>- http://www.ice.co.il/media/news/article/460324
>- http://tech.walla.co.il/item/3026625
>- http://www.hidabroot.org/article/215941
> 
> [1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryHE.htm
> [2] http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/#secondary-graphs-tab
> [3] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryEN.htm
> 
> 
> 
> *Regards,Itzik Edri*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Coyau

[Shlomi Fish]

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 09:22:26 -0800
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> Dear all,
> 
> It is with great sadness that I must share the news of the passing of
> User:Coyau, a pillar of the francophone Wikimedia community.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Coyau
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Coyau
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Sorry to hear about that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ray Saintonge has died

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 18:00:45 +0200
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> He died yesterday. As he was an important member of our community, I
> think we should make something appropriate so he would be remembered.
> 

Sorry to hear about that! My condolences go to his family and friends.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel received a grant to work with Arabic speaking gifted students

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Hi Ido and all,

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:34:39 +0300
ido ivri <idoi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> We are pleased to announce that Wikimedia Israel received a grant from an
> Israeli Charitable Foundation to replicate its successful program of
> working with gifted students on the Hebrew Wikipedia, and expand it to
> gifted Arabic speaking students in Israel to edit Arabic Wikipedia.
> 

That sounds like good news. Thanks to all the people for their work and good
luck in the future. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Arabic version of Offline Medical App Launches

[Shlomi Fish]

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 04:29:06 -0600
James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey All
> 
> We have just launched the Arabic version of our offline medical app. It is
> all of Arabic Wikipedia's healthcare, pharmaceutical, anatomy, and
> sanitation articles.
> 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixcustomwikimedar
> 
> Only avaliable for Android at this point in time. Persian coming soon :-)
> 

Thanks for that!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kevin Gorman has passed away

[Shlomi Fish]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:25:49 -0500
Ed Erhart <the.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I regret to inform everyone that Kevin Gorman, a Wikipedian who was the
> first Wikipedian-in-residence at a US university or college, has passed
> away. There is a memorial page on Facebook, and editors are leaving
> condolences on his English Wikipedia talk page.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevin_Gorman
> 

Sorry to hear that! These are sad news.

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Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farsi Wikipedia

[Shlomi Fish]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:40:12 +0430
Mardetanha <mardetanha.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would to let everyone know, after 13 years and millions of edits, Finally
> Farsi Wikipedia has reached 500,000 article. This is a very historic moment
> for all us in Farsi Wikipedia.
> 
> Mardetanha

Congratulations to the Persian Wikipedia contributors on reaching this
landmark! Well done, and good luck in the future.

One small nitpick if I may:

http://behdad.org/farsi.html/

“Persian is the English word for Farsi.”

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome Delphine Ménard as WMF's Annual Plan Grants Program Officer

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On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:55:14 -0700
Katy Love <kl...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi Wikimedians,
> 
> Today WMF's Community Resources team is joined by Delphine Ménard as our
> newly appointed Annual Plan Grants
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG> (APG) Program Officer. In that
> role, Delphine will support both funding streams included in the Annual
> Plan Grants program, including Simple Annual Plan Grants and the Funds
> Dissemination Committee's
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee>
> (FDC) full process APG, with her focus on the FDC.  We are excited to have
> her join our team.
> 

Welcome, Delphine and good luck.

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> Some of you may know Delphine as [[user:notafish]]. She's a longtime
> Wikimedian who has played many roles in our movement. She was WMF's
> Chapter's Coordinator many years ago, then a member of the Board of
> Wikimedia Deutschland, and most recently, a member of the Funds
> Dissemination Committee herself. Her wide array of experiences and roles
> will serve her well as the new APG Program Officer.
> 
> In the weeks ahead, Delphine will be reaching out to the FDC-funded
> organizations and will also be leading the Board's recruitment to fill four
> open seats on the FDC. I know she is looking forward to working with all of
> you. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Katy Love
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

Hello Peter,

On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:36:02 +0200
"Peter Southwood" <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> If you get it published off Wikipedia then it becomes a reference and someone
> else can mention it on Wikipedia 

Published where , how, why, what, and when? What forms of publishing are
acceptable for using as a Wikipedia reference?

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Shlomi Fish

> Cheers,
> Peter
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:08:17 +0100
"Lionel Allorge (lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org)" <lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> > I see. Thanks for the information (though I'm still frustrated it took this
> > list so long to give me a reply). I guess I won't be adding information
> > about the solvers to the FreeCell article after all. It's your loss,
> > really.  
> 
> You should mention this information on the talk page of the article :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:FreeCell
> 

which information?

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Shlomi Fish

> My two cents.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Joe,

On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:29:12 +
Joseph Fox <josephfoxw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, that would be original research and not permitted on the English
> Wikipedia.
> 

I see. Thanks for the information (though I'm still frustrated it took this
list so long to give me a reply). I guess I won't be adding information about
the solvers to the FreeCell article after all. It's your loss, really.

Wikipedia has so many rules that you can think it's a small country instead of
an open-content project. :-(.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

Dear Ruslan,

please reply to my questions below. I've been waiting all along.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:55:04 +0200
Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org> wrote:

> Hi Ruslan,
> 
> sorry for the late reply.
> 
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:01:31 +0300
> Ruslan <rusli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Answering your questions:
> > 
> >1. Yes, this conference proceedings paper is sufficiently reliable to be
> >included into a wikipedia article. (Notability of the paper does not
> >matter.) The full reference is
> >http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2001576.2001836
> >2. No, discussion threads are not reliable sources and can not be
> >included.
> >   
> 
> I see. Well, my dilemma here is that if I wrote that the best performing
> known solver todate could only solve 98% of the first 32,000 layouts, that
> will be very misleading (because like I said hobbyist solvers exist that can
> solve 31,999 of the deals and I was also able to verify these solutions as
> legal ones using a verification code). So what can we do? If I (or someone
> else) prepare a small public research document, which won't be an academic
> paper but will still have reproducible results, and publish it somewhere
> (with sources on GitHub, but also a version available on a static HTML site)
> and then cite that
> - will this be good enough? Or will this violate Wikipedia's
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research policy?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

[Shlomi Fish]

Dear Siko,

thanks for your work, and good luck on your future endeavours.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:24:55 -0800
Siko Bouterse <sboute...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Dear friends and colleagues,
> 
> I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff capacity
> for the past 4 ½ years, but I’ve now decided to move on from my role at the
> Wikimedia Foundation.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Pine,

sorry for the late reply.

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 09:31:31 -0800
Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Shlomi,
> 
> I would suggest posting those questions on the talk page of the article,
> and/or at WP:RSN.
> 

I've posted it to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_201#.E2.80.9CReliable.E2.80.9D.2C_.E2.80.9CNotable.E2.80.9D.2C_and_.E2.80.9CEncyclopaedic.E2.80.9D_Sources_for_Automated_Solvers_for_FreeCell
 ,
which is something I try to avoid because the MediaWiki talk pages' interface
lacks usability, and got no reply. However, someone replied on the thread here.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Ruslan,

sorry for the late reply.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:01:31 +0300
Ruslan <rusli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Answering your questions:
> 
>1. Yes, this conference proceedings paper is sufficiently reliable to be
>included into a wikipedia article. (Notability of the paper does not
>matter.) The full reference is
>http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2001576.2001836
>2. No, discussion threads are not reliable sources and can not be
>included.
> 

I see. Well, my dilemma here is that if I wrote that the best performing
known solver todate could only solve 98% of the first 32,000 layouts, that will
be very misleading (because like I said hobbyist solvers exist that can solve
31,999 of the deals and I was also able to verify these solutions as legal
ones using a verification code). So what can we do? If I (or someone else)
prepare a small public research document, which won't be an academic paper but
will still have reproducible results, and publish it somewhere (with sources on
GitHub, but also a version available on a static HTML site) and then cite that
- will this be good enough? Or will this violate Wikipedia's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research policy?

Thanks in advance,

-- Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia's 15th BD

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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:00:50 +0330
Mardetanha <mardetanha.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Fellow Wikimedians
> I would like to congratulate you on Wikipedia's 15th birthday, it was
> historic moment for all of us, I am glad to let you know we had a
> celebration in Tehran and we were the first country to celebrate it.
> you can find images here
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_15_in_Iran
> Mardetanha

Happy birthday, Wikipedia! It's such a great resource.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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[Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi all,

in case you don't know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeCell is a
single-player card game, that became popular after being included in
some versions of Microsoft Windows. Now, the English Wikipedia entry about it
used to contain during at least two times in the past, some relatively short
sections about several automated solvers that have been written for it.
However, they were removed due to being considered "non-notable" or
"non-Encyclopaedic".

Right now there's only this section -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeCell#Solver_complexity which talks about the
fact that FreeCell was proved to be NP-complete. 

I talked about it with a friend, and he told me I should try to get a
"reliable source" news outlet/newspaper to write about such solvers (including
I should add my own over at http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/ , though the
sections on the FreeCell Wikipedia entry did not exclusively cover it.).

Recently I stumbled upon this paper written by three computer scientists, then
at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev:

*
http://www.genetic-programming.org/hc2011/06-Elyasaf-Hauptmann-Sipper/Elyasaf-Hauptmann-Sipper-Paper.pdf

* There's some analysis of this paper in this thread in the fc-solve-discuss
Yahoo Group:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fc-solve-discuss/conversations/messages/1388

The solver mentioned in the paper can solve 98% of the first 32,000 Microsoft
FreeCell deals. However, several hobbyist solvers (= solvers that were written
outside the Academia and may incorporate techniques that are less fashionable
there, and that were not submitted for Academic peer review) that were written
by the time the article published, have been able to solve all deals in the
first MS 32,000 deals except one (#11,982), which is widely believed to be
impossible, and which they fully traverse without a solution.

Finally, I should note that I've written a Perl 5/CPAN distribution to verify
that the FreeCell solutions generated by my solver (and with some potential
future work - other solvers) are correct, and I can run it on the output of
my solver on the MS 32,000 deals on my Core i3 machine in between 3 and 4
minutes.[Verification]

===

Now my questions are:

1. Can this paper be considered a reliable, notable, and/or Encyclopaedic source
that can hopefully deter and prevent future Deletionism?

2. Can I cite the fc-solve-discuss’s thread mentioning the fact that there are
hobbyist solvers in question that perform better in this respect - just for
"Encyclopaedic" completeness sake, because the scientific paper in question
does not mention them at all.

===

Sorry this E-mail was quite long, but I wanted to present all the facts. As you
can tell, I've become quite frustrated at Wikipedia deletionism and the hoops
one has to overcome in order to cope with them.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


[Verification] - one note is that all these programs were not verified/proved
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Old maps of Jerusalem released

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:53:08 +0200
Michal Lester <mles...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:

> I am thrilled to share with you that The National Library of Israel had
> > released a collection of 200 high-resolution unique maps[1] of Jerusalem
> > in collaboration with Wikimedia Israel. This collection of ancient maps,
> > spanning from 1486 to 1947, contains a variety of styles and languages. The
> > maps released were celbrarted by a Mapathon in the National Library of
> > Israel, a writinig contest in NOWP (initiated by Wikimedia Norway)[2] and
> > a post in the Wikimaps community blog[3].
> > The maps are beautiful! Take a peak.

Thanks for everybody’s efforts. I appreciate them.

Regards,

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[Wikimedia-l] Fw: Just say no to TPP

[Shlomi Fish]

Forwarding here from the Creative Commons distribution list. Please sign the
petition.

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Creative Commons
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The public is losing out when millions of creative works are kept locked up
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[Wikimedia-l] Constants and Low-Interest Posts to the Wikimedia Announcement Newsletter

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi all,

I'm subscribed to wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org and it
receives constant posting of low interest posts such as "This month in GLAM" or
"The Signpost" stuff. This gets annoying because I expect the newsletter to
announce only really big announcements that interest me or require my
attention, and that appear infrequently.

There's also a risk similar to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf that really significant
announcements will be ignored due to people getting used to not paying attention
to the less significant ones.

Can someone take it to heart? If it continues, I'll have to unsubscribe from
the newsletter.

Regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Belissarius

[Shlomi Fish]

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 13:52:54 -0800
Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Colleagues,
> 
> The Wikipedia community has received news of the passing of
> User:Belissarius. He spoke Polish natively and English at a high level of
> proficiency. He wrote about himself on his Wikipedia user pages at
> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Belissarius
> and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belissarius. Confirmation of his
> passing appeared in the *Polish Daily News *at
> http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/polonia/red-piotr-domaradzki-nie-zyje/
> 

Sorry to hear about that.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

> A self-portrait of him appears here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulkownik_P.JPG
> 
> His record includes 107,753 edits to Polish Wikipedia, and over 1000 edits
> each to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Belissarius
> 
> May he rest in peace.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

[Shlomi Fish]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:14:11 -0700
Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Dear friends,
> 
> Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to the
> Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month, after long
> illness.
> 

sorry to hear about that. My condolences go to his family and friends.

Regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Republic of Srpska

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On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 01:45:51 +0200
Cristian Consonni <kikkocrist...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Il 06/Ott/2015 23:11, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> ha scritto:
> >
> > (As a courtesy for the possibly-confused: [[Republika Srpska
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republika_Srpska>]].)
> 
> I have to say that it took me a while.
> Congrats to the new group!

Congratulations and good luck.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

> 
> Cristian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Nigeria

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:44:56 +0300
"Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> On behalf of the Affiliations Commitee, I am pleased to announce the 
> recognition [1] of Wikimedia Community User Group Nigeria [2]. Among 
> their goals is to increase the usage of the different WIkimedia projects 
> in Nigeria not just as viewers, but as editors/contributors and organize 
> in-person gatherings and edit-a-thons.
> 
> Welcome to the family, guys!
> 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Ecuador User Group

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:51:44 +0300
"Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am pleased to announce the 
> recognition [1] of Wikimedians of Ecuador [2]. Among their goals is 
> promoting the culture of Free Knowledge in Ecuador, strenghtening the 
> digital education in the country, and supporting the access of speakers 
> of indigenous languages to the different Wikimedia projects.
> 
> ¡Bienvenidos!
> 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

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Hi Philippe,

sorry to see you go. I hope you recover soon, and good luck on your future
endeavours!

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:01:26 -0700
Philippe Beaudette <phili...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Dear friends,
> 
> Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
> be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
> together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
> excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
> service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
> never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.
> 
> But it's time for me to move on.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A book on open business models by Creative Commons

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Everton,

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 00:42:59 -0300
Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@okfn.org.br wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Creative Commons has started an interesting project proposal at
 Kickstarter, Made with Creative Commons: A book on open business models
 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/creativecommons/made-with-creative-commons-a-book-on-open-business.
 The book will be under a license compatible with the Open Definition,
 CC-by-SA.
 

I wanted to donate to that (after being encouraged to donate by a friend who
had a birthday on Facebook), but I didn't find a way to donate using PayPal -
only directly using a credit card. As a result, I ended up donating on
creativecommons.org, but I'm not sure my donation will go to the book. I wonder
if indiegogo has the same problem as Kickstarter from this respect or if it
would have been a better choice.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

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On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:20:56 -0700
Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Congratulations and much success!
 
A.
 

Congratulations, good luck, and welcome aboard!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiWomen's User Group

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On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 14:24:55 +0300
Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I am pleased and honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations 
 Committe the recognition [1] of a new member of the family of Wikimedia 
 affiliates: The WikiWomen's User Group. Among their goals are providing 
 a collaborative space for women to work on projects, discuss 
 gender-related issues (but not limited to) and work towards the increase 
 in content and contributor diversity.
 
 Please, join us in welcoming them!! :-)
 

Congratulations, welcome aboard and good luck!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Albanian Language as a Wikimedia User Group

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:49:27 +0300
Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, it is an honor for me to 
 announce the recognition [1] of Wikimedians of Albanian Language as a 
 WUG. They are working hard to increase (in quantity and quality) the 
 free knowledge available in albanian, as well as collaborating with 
 other fellow wikimedians in areas of the Balkans outside of Albania 
 where their language is also spoken. Hence their name :-)
 

Congrats and welcome.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Korea as a Wikimedia User Group

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:50:19 +0300
Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 We have another group of wikimedians being recognised [1], the 
 Wikimedians of Korea User Group. They have been around for some time and 
 among their main interests is the development of educational content in 
 South Korea available for all, along with supporting the development of 
 other Wikimedia projects.
 
 Welcome!!

Congratulations and welcome aboard!

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