Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

[Sylvain Boissel]

There was also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiMoney before
that but it never really worked either.

Le dim. 27 janv. 2019 à 08:10, AntiCompositeNumber <
anticompositenum...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> The <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board>  does
> exist, but it doesn't seem to get much attention.
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:29 PM geni  wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 16:07, John Erling Blad  wrote:
> > >
> > > I was thinking about actually bounties, like in bug bounties from
> > > larger software vendors. We have some "bugs", like spellchecking,
> > > which is pretty easy to quantify, and that can be done as part of
> > > bounties with cash. Yes, the ugly word, paid editing! OMG!
> > >
> > > But quite frankly, why should we not? ¢1 per fixed single word typo
> > > that leads to one-less spelling error? Perhaps even $1 per
> > > spellchecked page? Delayed one week to see if anyone reverts the
> > > edits?
> > >
> >
> > You've just created a financial incentive to include spelling errors.
> >
> > --
> > geni
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

[Sylvain Boissel]

Hello,

2018-08-10 11:19 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil :

> Mathieu, thank you for your research and for connecting so many dots.
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz <
> psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:
>
> > Although Mastodon doesn't seem to be what I was looking for at start, I
> do
> > think it would be great to launch a Wikimedia instance and completely in
> > phase with the aim of becoming an essential infrastructure of the
> ecosystem
> > of free knowledge. So let me know if I can help in any way on this
> regard.
> > :)
> >
> In my professional role, I think it is worth considering the idea of
> approaching Wikimedia to the Fediverse as part of
>
> > Knowledge as a service: To serve our users, we will become a platform
> that serves open knowledge to the world across interfaces and communities.
> > We will build tools for allies and partners to organize and exchange free
> knowledge beyond Wikimedia.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction
>
> In fact, I have started some very casual conversations about these ideas
> (equivalent to chats by the coffee machine, except that I'm remote and I
> don't drink coffee), partially motivated by this thread.
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198363 is a good umbrella task. If
> someone wants to develop the idea of creating a Wikimedia instance in the
> Fediverse (official or not), then that would deserve its own discussion.
> Where to start this discussion? IdeaLab? Maybe it doesn't matter as long as
> we have one place well advertised.
>
> There are at least three aspects to consider:
>
> * Technical: Creating i.e. a Mastodon instance somewhere is technically
> simple, running that instance in Wikimedia production servers is another
> story. While there is no need to start with a service in production, it is
> useful to consider the scenario early on.
>

It may have changed since I last checked (a bit more than a year ago), but
while it is easy to create an instance, migrating an account to another
instance, or moving an entire instance to a new domain is not (I couldn't
even find documentation on how to accomplish this. So if we start an
instance that is supposed to become an official one, we need at the very
least have the final domain name from the start. Depending on the one we
want, we still might need official support (e.g., anyone can register
wikimedians.social, but wikimedia.social is restricted to the WMF by a DPML
Block.)



>
> * Legal: Aiming for an official Wikimedia instance has implications of
> trademarks, legal requirements, and so on. While there is no need to start
> with an official instance, it is useful to consider the scenario early on.
>
Do you know what these requirements are? Are some issues unsolvable (for
example, if an official Wikimedia instance implies that no movie-based gifs
can be posted (for copyright reasons), then this instance has basically no
chance to gain a large user base. While this may not be a problem (a small
instance with a small number of accounts posting things like
#pictureOfTheDay to the whole Fediverse would still be valuable), this
would change the scope of what we try to accomplish.


>
> * Social: While creating an instance would be simple, having a critical
> mass of Wikimedians aware of it and using it regularly is not. There is no
> lack of brilliant ideas that failed because the people didn't follow. And
> here you would be fighting against resistance to change e.g. from those
> believing that Wikimedians should focus on wikis only, from Wikimedians
> well invested in corporate social networks (Facebook, Twitter, etc) and of
> course with everyone being "too busy to join another channel". Whoever
> drives this initiative must be ready to work hard explaining, promoting,
> supporting...
>

In April 2017 when the Mastodon hype wave hit France, I had several people
asking me if WMFr would create a Mastodon instance, so I'm not particularly
worried about that (If we had created the instance back then, there would
have several dozens of users creating their account). We may have lost that
momentum, but OTOH the fact that the Fediverse is still very active is a
good proof of resilience. And then again, even if there is not a critical
mass joining the instance, as it would interact with the Fediverse, this
does not mean that the few users there would be shouting in the void.



On a more personal note: I don't have enough time to lead this initiative
myself, but I would happily give help with administrating the instance, or
"explaining, promoting, supporting" it.

Cheers,
Sylvain

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does anyone know what wikimedia france are up to with the Request Network ?

[Sylvain Boissel]

Hi James,

Le lun. 28 mai 2018 à 17:24, James Salsman  a écrit :

> Hi Nadine, thank you for this update.
>
> Does the French Chapter have a position on replacing bitcoin mining
> with foldingcoin (http://foldingcoin.net)? I hope that all Wikimedians
> will oppose the wasteful consumption of electricity when useful
> alternatives exist.
>

The French Chapter does not use any crypto money at all right now.

Best,
Sylvain

>
> Best regards,
> Jim
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Nadine Le Lirzin
>  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Update on the topic.
> >
> > Since Request Network were so slow and reluctant to change their delusive
> > communication into a fair and clean information, Wikimédia France broke
> the
> > agreement with them. Thus, this partnership is over.
> >
> > We deleted our blog post about it. And we keep on trying to obtain the
> same
> > from Request Network (who are turning a deaf ear until now).
> >
> > Once again, sorry for the noise and thanks for alerting us,
> >
> > Nadine Le Lirzin
> > *Secrétaire du conseil d'administration*
> > *Wikimédia France*
> >
> > *Post-scriptum:* no other cryptocurrency donations project is planned ^^'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-28 17:12 GMT+02:00 Nadine Le Lirzin :
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
> >>
> >> Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this
> >> local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been
> established by
> >> Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and
> >> our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia
> projects
> >> marks.
> >>
> >> Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and
> >> suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages :
> >> — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/up
> >> date_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/
> >> — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-
> >> update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia-
> >> woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
> >>
> >> We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning :
> >> — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annon
> >> ce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-
> >> crypto-monnaies/
> >>
> >> After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all
> >> occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nadine Le Lirzin
> >>
> >> *Secretary of the Board*
> >> *Wikimédia France *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) :
> >>
> >>> Definitly confusing.
> >>>
> >>> See also this : https://blog.request.network/r
> >>> equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-wi
> >>> th-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Florence
> >>>
> >>> Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
> >>>
>  According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with
>  something called the "Request Network‏" for cryptocurrency donations.
>  Also this article here
> 
>  https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce
>  -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-cr
>  ypto-monnaies/
> 
>  Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I
>  can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
> 
>  What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the
>  partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just
>  wikimedia france:
> 
>  https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
> 
>  Is some form of clarification possible?
> 
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

[Sylvain Boissel]

Hi Katherine,

2017-10-19 23:19 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>:

> [...]
>

> We are committed to working with the new Wikimédia France conseil
> d’administration (governing board) to support the French community as they
> work to address and resolve these and other outstanding issues. The
> Wikimedia Foundation and the new leadership of Wikimédia France are already
> cooperating to address the governance-related concerns raised by the
> volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee in the first half of 2017. As part
> of this work, we have encouraged them to review how they will independently
> handle claims of harassment in the future. The Wikimedia Foundation and
> Wikimédia France share a common goal: a healthy, welcoming, respectful,
> inclusive Wikimedia community in France.
>
> I know I am not alone in my dismay for how these events have unfolded. Many
> dedicated, good-faith members of the French community, including current
> community members and present and former Wikimédia France board and staff
> members, have experienced distress and anxiety over recent months. Those
> outside of the community have watched with dismay as our peers and friends
> have found themselves disoriented, distressed, alienated, or at odds with
> one another. And yet we also know that many in France now feel a renewed
> sense of purpose for building the healthy and welcoming community we all
> desire.
>

As the representative of the local branch of the labor union
ASSO-Solidaires at Wikimédia France, I wanted to thank you and the WMF
staff members who took part in the site visit in Paris in July  (namely
Katy Love, Winifred Olliff, Stephen Laporte and James Baldwin) for hearing
the distress of the staff members at a time when Wikimédia France's board
plainly refused to discuss with the staff.

I also wanted to confirm that things are getting better with the new board
elected in September.

I cannot speak about what my coworkers went through without asking them
first, but I can share an example from my own story: in February, I was
issued a « rappel à l'ordre » (warning) by the former direction and
board, accusing
me of disloyalty to the chapter because I had a girlfriend. It was
cancelled this month by the new board, and this is a huge relief to me.

Best regards,
Sylvain.

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