Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-03 Thread Thomas Townsend
What is the objection in principle to ND licencing? If you publish a paper detailing your experiments on apricot kernels as a cure for cancer with a conclusion that they are completely worthless, and give it a BY licence, I can now "remix" it, that is publish exactly the same material, except

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-04 Thread Thomas Townsend
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 18:46, James Heilman wrote: > Wiki Journals use CC BY SA. We do not support or want to us ND as that > would prevent translation into other languages. That is why I disagree with > Plan S's move to allow ND. > So part of the offer is that an author's article may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium + evaluation behaviour WMF

2019-06-17 Thread Thomas Townsend
Am I right in thinking that this email, containing a long account of the alleged poor treatment of the Treasurer of WMBE, referred to throughout in the third person, was in fact written by that person? The Turnip On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 10:00, Romaine Wiki wrote: > > Hello all, > > On Saturday

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Code of Conduct committee candidates

2019-06-20 Thread Thomas Townsend
Amir May we not know the real names of the committee members, as opposed to their pseudonyms? Surely that is necessary, both as a matter of general principle, and specifically in case it were ever to turn out that a member of the committee might be involved in a complaint. The Turnip On Thu,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Code of Conduct committee candidates

2019-06-23 Thread Thomas Townsend
Amir > The committee is a body of volunteers and they can't be forced to disclose > their real identities. There's no such policy in the CoC That does not appear to be correct. The CoC policy requires that the volunteer committee members identify themselves *to the Foundation*. The Turnip

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-15 Thread Thomas Townsend
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 18:39, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > > There is no "very basic principle of Human Rights and dignity" to be free > from the presumption of guilt by others. You may be confusing Article 11 > of the UHDR, but this applies explicitly only to "penal offenses." Unless > Fram is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banning real identities

2019-07-05 Thread Thomas Townsend
armed for their > genuine contributions. > That MUST NOT (rfc2119 [1]) be how we handle things. > Once again, I cannot stress this enough. > > Do not do this. This is a bad idea on so many levels. Pretty much all of > them, really. > > Alphos > > [1] https://www.ietf.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-05 Thread Thomas Townsend
Nathan > Yes, the environment is full of toxic people. This has always been true, > and yet it exists. You want a revolution to make Wikipedia a friendlier > place? It isn't going to happen. There is no such place, at least not with > the critical mass of human participants that this project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An updated design for the Wikimedia Foundation website

2019-07-11 Thread Thomas Townsend
Andy > What kind of accessibility audit was undertaken on the new design? You might like to look at Phabricator ticket T6845 concerning an accessibility issue dating back to 2006 which remains unresolved. The Turnip ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-29 Thread Thomas Townsend
Astonishing the amount of speculation on this list about what might have happened and who might or might not be telling the truth. Considering that nobody posting here has any information about the facts of the case, would it not be better to cease from speculation which can have no positive

[Wikimedia-l] Banning real identities

2019-07-01 Thread Thomas Townsend
All, In an attempt to move the discussion on from unprofitable and inappropriate speculations about information shared in confidence, let's look at one of the aspects that is made public. When the WMF issues a WMF Global Ban in line with https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Global_Ban_Policy it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banning real identities

2019-07-02 Thread Thomas Townsend
> Why do you think this is important and what real purpose do you think this > will serve? A good question. The stated object of global bans is "to help assure the safety of users of the Wikimedia projects and/or assist in preventing prohibited behavior that hinders dialogue, project development

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-07-28 Thread Thomas Townsend
Kazakh > Wikimedians enjoyed close collaboration with the government (for example, > the Kazakhstani Encyclopedia has been released under a free license and > verbatim copied to the Kazakh Wikipedia, so that I do not expect much. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > On Tue, Jul 23, 20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-07-23 Thread Thomas Townsend
Yury What is the position of the Kazakhstan chapter on this? The Turnip On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 at 11:36, Yury Bulka wrote: > > I'm sure many have heard about this: > https://thehackernews.com/2019/07/kazakhstan-https-security-certificate.html > > Essentially, the government in Kazakhstan started