[Wikimedia-l] WikiClassics UG 2021 Annual Report

Dear Wikimedia Community members, I would like to share with you all that the WCS user group activity report for the year 2021 - 2022 was published on meta. [1] Such link was also shared few hours ago on our social media. Kind regards.A. Marchetti [1]

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election

Of course it's like that Ilario,sometimes some usergroups are "userpersons". and as person involved in the previous ASBS election I politely hinted that aspect as much as possible in the past. Also, sometimes even some chapters are mostly few key persons when relationship with WMF is involved,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

Last year the community voted that way putting diverse candidates at 5th and 6th position because the election method could not work properly, even assuming (as it was) a general attempt of diverse choice by the electorate. The main issue was in the low threshold for the candidatures. As soon

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

Yes, it's getting frequent and not only from people in Africa. I ended up to trouble-shoot these problems by mails or direct messaging on Facebook more and and more frequently, maybe with simple users who just know me or have my contact. Sometimes it looks like sharing the duties of a sysop

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Rwanda

All the best! Il giovedì 10 febbraio 2022, 20:16:28 CET, Winnie kabintie ha scritto: Viva Team Rwanda. Kind Regards, Winnie KabintieJournalist | Communications Specialist Cell: 0734 076 125 linkedin: https://bit.ly/2oCbtMK Twitter:@WinnieKabintie On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 8:43 PM

[Wikimedia-l] Re: "content was" when deleting pages - is it useful?

Sometimes Information is important. It can make a difference not to contact a sysop in order to know what was it about, speeding up content creation. Personally, I believe that if you don't want to disclose information too much there, a good compromise is to make more users access the deleted

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

That would enter the domain of naming guidelines and we don't have those in general. Again, I have been pointing out since the first years of SUL. For example a string can look terrible in one language but not another, you have a normal user experience in one Wikipedia, and than you realize

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

for example to link local policies there, so people can start to get an idea what could be used as a reference. Alessandro Il martedì 9 novembre 2021, 13:46:11 CET, Peter Southwood ha scritto: Seems a reasonable idea. Cheers, Peter   From: Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

21), and the plaque/obit should respect the privacy. That's my initial thoughts on this. ইতি,টিটো দত্ত(মাতৃভাষা থাক জীবন জুড়ে) মঙ্গল, ৯ নভেম্বর, ২০২১ তারিখে ৫:৪৮ AM টায় তারিখে Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l লিখেছেন: Personally I think we should validate first a global policy on d

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

Yes, a user status/right “deceased" is IMHO important. It was also the reason why I expected a SUL policy to be created soon or later. I tried two or three time to raise the issue since 2016. Now some projects block accounts, but it's not a standard process. It has to be fixed soon or later.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

Personally I think we should validate first a global policy on deceased users. After many years of SUL it's still very fragmented from platform to platform. A centralized procedure to confirm death and how to block account would be a good starting step. After that, i think we need a standard

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

I still believe that a screening phase where people with limited support below a certain threshold can quit the race or be removed is the best way to have a functional ballot... to me it's just simpler this way. Even at real-life elections you need to show some signatures to access the race.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: calculating autoconfirmed age and edit count

As a long-time cross-platform user, I have been checking user rights for years. These flag systems have strong differences among platforms. They originate from lack of perspective, sometimes.. some long-time users have no interest in analyzing them, there is a lack of literacy about flag

[Wikimedia-l] 2020 Annual report - WikiClassics User Group

Dear all I'm glad to share the 2020 Annual Report of our User Group Here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiClassics_User_Group/Reports/2020 Greetings, Alessandro Marchetti ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is it time for a Global Username Policy that is similar to Global Rename Policy?

It's an old topic. I tried to discuss it in 2015 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alexmar983/sandbox#SUL_issues and also again at an informal after-meeting weeks ago. First of all, there is no strong global management of username blacklist as people might imagine. Beyond the cases of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

WikiNotYetFree is ok, structured search for locally hosted files is ok...  I think that there are many different pathways that will lead to more or less a certain scenario. What should be clear, IMHO, is that some process will occur in any case even if somebody stands on the soapbox

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

We have an archive mixing different licenses now, one is Commons ranging from CC-0 to CC BY SA, and other ones are local Wikis sometimes including in their spectrum of situations many non-free files in fair use. this is proof that an archive hosting non-free files with other free-licensed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

Most of the proposal for NC usually pushed for a separate infrastructure, as far as I know. I'm not a fan of a unified archive, for example I am fine with a separate one. As I said, I also see it as a great way to experiment many features we can't have on Commons, maybe even a truly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Operation and oversight of OTRS system

I still think that more transparency is possible here and there on this issue. Of course, we could have started a long process to get there by now but time is limited and precisely because we should provide a "healthy image of the movement" my goal so far has been to avoid using OTRS with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Operation and oversight of OTRS system

I am now quite confused. Are we supposed to ask very specific questions about OTRS hoping to get an answer because if the questions are too generic for sure we will never get a lot of answers? is that the general idea? ok if it helps, here are some of them 1. are OTRS policies categorized

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

Centralized Wiki for NC files will work. It's the same debate when we started to put metadata on Commons, it did not stop the process, it just made it slower and less efficient, but it remained kinda inevitable. It's the same background, the frustration and confusion of the current situation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

I would probably never try to convince somebody about NC license. It sounds pushy and almost never works, it's like optimizing a process that has a 0.1% output. of course I can spend less time to do so, and maybe double the effect, but it's still a limited output. I prefer to agree with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

do not want to judge about this intention, but I imagine that it can become problematic when your goal is to build a knowledge *commons*. Kind regards Ziko Benjamin Lees schrieb am So. 12. Juli 2020 um 09:31: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

, 09:31:12 CEST, Benjamin Lees ha scritto: On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: Are we really sure he would have done something in any case if we did not provide such options? It's pretty hard to be sure about the hypothetical behavior of i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

I always supported a more effective centralized policy for NC. I don't think that will discourage organizations from adopting more free license per se, the same way that adopting certain NC material on local Wikis did not so far. it's not an absolute consequence, it's how you do it. At least,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

First of all, good job. I appreciate that. To be honest, however, some of us did not need a "proof of concept" to know that this was possible, we would have helped to build it years ago if the situation allowed it. it did not, the "social" environment was against it. We could not de facto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

To be honest, I actively discourage newbies to edit but also to upload on Commons when they start. I prefer it when they focus on something else. If needed, I can find enough files because of my expertise and that's a decent starting point. Of course, I am active and soon or later uploading is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

ady have so its all consistent. At the moment we are > developing differing concepts, tools, policies in isolation . > >> On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 23:34, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < >> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Yes, structured data a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

activity to a minimum > > and I am not planning to increase the activity level). > > > > Best > > Yaroslav > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:12 PM Ziko van Dijk > wrote: > > > > Hello Alessandro, > > Thank you for your post

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

have enough time. Also I would introduce it only to students with a solid knowledge of English. Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l schrieb am Mo. 18. Mai 2020 um 13:08: > In the end, it's more like inducing order from other projects than caring > about the order on Commons because there c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

h time. Also I would introduce it only to students with a solid knowledge of English. Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l schrieb am Mo. 18. Mai 2020 um 13:08: > In the end, it's more like inducing order from other projects than caring > about the order on Commons because there clearly c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

I keep using Commons/OTRS with newbies, but I warned them how dysfunctional it can be. it's not really about doing things properly but how they look a certain way to people with a certain mindset. Addressing issues of copyright has limited correlation with what people who know superficially

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

process of Commons that enable it to recognise stuff that has a place in "fair use" situations. It opens up our content linguistically and it will definitely make us more inclusively for a world beyond the two U-s.Thanks,      GerardM On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 17:25, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

"there are way less people maintaining it than it is needed" is naif summary of what is going on. IMHO. There are people maintaining it in a way that is counterproductive. You can always create an efficient workflow, if you want it. We don't need people that delete an image of a statue in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Meet

I told so many times WMF should support infrastructure for the volunteers, so thank you very much for this step in that direction. A.M. Il domenica 26 aprile 2020, 01:08:01 CEST, Tito Dutta ha scritto: Hello, That's super great news. I definitely want to try it. Thanks a lot for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject COVID-19 (English Wikipedia) is started

I took images of an almost empty Milan Central train station even before i think there were any specific social distancing rule https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Milano_Centrale_train_station_during_2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy ... and created few days later 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

/WikiForHumanRights[4]  https://standup4humanrights.org/en/2020/highlights_04.html On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote:  Well, we did our share. For both medical and social aspects, we were there. I was hoping at least to get some guidelines for our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-( James On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >  Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19

Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central office quickly in Geneva if necessary. Changing some licenses was one of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why renaming to Wikipedia will wreak havoc on other projects

://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Images_for_Wikidata_-_%22Global_Young_Academy%22This is the chat at Commons  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#OTRS_&_WikidataThanks,      GerardM On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 17:45, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote:  Can you pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why renaming to Wikipedia will wreak havoc on other projects

Can you provide some links? I keep asking images for Wikidata items since years and I do not recall any issue at all. I have the feeling that as long everything is formally correct (all categories prepared and linked via wikidata infobox) nobody digs into that very much. It's true however that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Candidates for new mandate

in AffCom concerning communication with the communities, for sure... :P Best,Paulo Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l escreveu no dia quinta, 23/01/2020 à(s) 00:23:  On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News=prev=19695

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Candidates for new mandate

On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News=prev=19695407 , I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Astrophoto Contest

Great news. Wish you all the luck! Il giovedì 24 ottobre 2019, 11:22:42 CEST, Toni Ristovski ha scritto: Hi Aron, Thank you for your interest in this contest. Yes, of course, you can upload non-professional photos. No, photo should not be taken only from 15.10.2019 to 15.11.2019, so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Colombia

Good luck! Il mercoledì 31 luglio 2019, 20:11:39 CEST, Asaf Bartov ha scritto: Congratulations!   A. On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:02 PM Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > has approved the recognition

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikipedians of Goa User Group

congratulations! Il mercoledì 31 luglio 2019, 20:08:32 CEST, camelia boban ha scritto: Wonderful news, congrats to the new UG . Camelia, WikiDonne UG -- *Camelia Boban* *| Java EE Developer |* *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia *Foundation Coordinator - Diversity Working

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiClassics User Group

Thank you all for your replies. Congratulation also to Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group, for being recognized with us. FYI, it seems that WikiClassics abbreviation will be WCS https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reports=revision=19091680=19086803 Alessandro Il lunedì 13 maggio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

. And we gave a copy to each student, so they could have a guidance. And we also gave them a direct e-mail so they could ask for copyrights issues: two of them did it and we gave them some answers. Cheers Galder From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l Sent: Monday,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

We have dozens of cross project brainstorming off-wiki. But the general feeling is often that if you encourage the social dynamics of a platform in a way that people who like to "play cops" are a key actor... when this is established there is no point in creating sophisticated or efficient

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

If I could share my vision, I am not part of the group of "expert flagged users"(I have some flags here and there, I was asked to get more but I have no rush) and I am not part of the group of "expert outreach users" (I make events but change them so often I do not play any specific role).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS2019 voter selection from UG-GE

Hi all. Thanks to UG Georgia for their effort. if any UGs or chapter would like to publish a meta page about the choice of the voter, in order to maximize transparency, that's a good idea. My only request is to try to follow a similar naming scheme "Name of the affiliate/ASBS2019 Voter" (also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year 2018: The results are in!

I am happy to notice that, if I recall correctly, two of these finalists were runner-ups of Wiki Science Competition 2017 (the tornado, Commons:Wiki Science Competition 2017/Winners - Wikimedia Commons "image sets" category) and of European Science Photo Competition 2015 (the frozen bubble,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

uld be, and that is a real problem. I think there's a bias on Wikipedia when weighing the pros and cons of policy, because it's easy to overlook the absence of something that never was there to begin with. On Mar 13, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: > W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

Reminding is easy, it's analyzing that it's complex. I suspect that editors and readers are probably a little bit smarter than generally assumed. It's quite "obvious" that editors understand what is an encyclopedia, after years. When I make an informal survey, statistically the "smarter"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

I know people in many fields with great technical expertise. people who published articles on Science and Nature basically, and in the end I think they are probably qualified to have an idea of what a good encyclopedia should be. The point is that these people open wiki for topics far away

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Albania

I guess... probably one include also the majority of Kosovo, Albanian-speaking regions of Greece, P.Y.R.O.M./North Macedonia and maybe even Southern Italy and the other one is just centered on Albania as a state. This is not the same scenario as Brazil (not sure if, partially, also Greece)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hiding versions because of copyright violation

privacy violations is not standard at all. For example some wikis hide personal details that people put on purpose, while other ones see no point since it's their will to show them. Also, even if it is not strictly related to private information, blocking deceased users is not standardized

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

The pro forma statement bout what a chapter is is valuable, but I think many of us kinda got the idea that the problem was not the starting point (otherwise why electing him?) but came later. It's possible that someone else with more community experience would have never behaved such way, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

When I read such mails, I think there is something that it's not 100% working in the workflow of AffCom. If i might say how i feel it, I would say that it is not perceived like a "catalyst" of good practices, but more like a bottleneck of processes. Maybe more transparency could help. UG and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Curating YOUR Wikipedia

pedias- collide.html[2] https://ultimategerardm. blogspot.com/2018/07/ africagap-support-for- minority-languages.html[3] https://ultimategerardm. blogspot.com/2016/01/ wikipedia-lowest-hanging- fruit-from.html On 16 July 2018 at 05:41, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: yes, it i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Curating YOUR Wikipedia

yes, it is an old issue, what you say it's right but I would be more optimistic. To summarize my view (I couls send you more information privately) 1. Wikidata largely reflected what Wikipedia indicated, and that was not the right way to make it grow, but that was also the past. At the moment,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Hi, I usually push diversity in any situation but only after I got a core quality group of volunteer. the first degree of diversity is the diversity based on wiki activity, IMHO.. I care about the rest and I try to be honest if I go in that direction and why I do that. If anyone is offended for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

ts risks, its undesirables, and crime, just getting a taxi to and from the airport is a risk reality is its also more likely than a terrorist event On 6 April 2018 at 03:24, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: That's why people offwiki say they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

ch may happen). So let's please not overreact, and stick to the current discussion instead of having the next WikiConvention in a flying fortress with armed guards, sniffing dogs, and metal detectors at every door… Roger / Alphos 2018-04-05 18:40 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] YouTube shooting and risk assessment

I remember we discussed 2 or 3 years about this scenario with some wikimedians off wiki. I strongly support to discuss at least once openly about that. In a way that it's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic... of course. Despite the claimed neutrality of the communities, reality

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Stewards elected

Compared to the low point of 2016, it is glad that for another year we had enough elected candidates.  Five is a good number. Il Giovedì 1 Marzo 2018 1:36, Md. Ibrahim Husain ha scritto: Congrats to the new stewards. On Thursday, March 1, 2018, Mardetanha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Starting School Activity: Possible Support and Tips

Do you need some contacts of local expert wikimedians too? It's a mail from Singapore, right? I can show you how to contact them on their user talk pages if you are a total newbie. Some of them you can find listed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Singapore

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

reate an Rfc, and start the process to make creation of new user accounts non-public information. Den fre. 26. jan. 2018, 03.04 skrev Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>: you are not "exposing the user unknowingly visiting the site" with the bot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

you are not "exposing the user unknowingly visiting the site" with the bot itself...when you visit the site you are integrated in the SUL, it's public information since ages. The fact that a bot takes care of it or a human being leaves a message does not tell you a lot more. Sometimes on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

There are a lot of SUL issues that are waiting to be addressed. One for example is the definition of what is not "appropriate" as a name. Another one is a centralized interface for preferences, a third one is a centralized management of key user information, a forth one is the possibility to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

What are the good reason to be poaranoid? The only reason I ever heard is "is making me waste time", usually expressed wasting more time. BTW, after years of SUL most of the old time users have received a lot of welcome messages and they receive usually two new ones per year, no more in my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

Some reactions to welcome bot or welcomes are a little bit "exaggerated" sometimes. it's just a small red color spot in a corner. Two seconds to process it, more time to complain about it. I study user activities and sometimes I leave welcome messages here and there. 99.5% of the time is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gathering User Inputs for WikiCV Project

I'd like to put a picture of me on such CV but even if this is voluntary that's usually the point when 4 or 5 users (mostly old-timers) write something like "we are not facebook" (or similar) and say they agree with themselves. I wish I could do it myself, repeating standardized sentences as a