[Wikimedia-l] The Global Economic Map is looking for somebody with experience making bots

2013-08-01 Thread Alex Peek
The top goal for the Global Economic Map right now is to make bots that
will create empty articles for every country and region. I think this would
be a good first step right now.

Here is an empty article for spain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/sandbox/Economic_Summary_of_Spain

Does anybody want to help out or have any advice on this topic?

Here is a link to the project page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map

Thank you,

Alex
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[Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map integration with Wikidata

2013-07-20 Thread Alex Peek
Below is the plan for the Global Economic Map to become integrated with
Wikidata.

Wikidata task force page:
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Global_Economic_Map_task_force

Project homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map


   1. Wikidata already has a page on each country.
   2. Wikidata already has a page on each administrative division of each
   of these countries.
   3. Wikidata already has a page on each of the larger companies and
   financial institutions.
   4. The Global Economic Map project will work with Wikidata to define the
   additional items and properties needed to incorporate the Global Economic
   data into Wikidata in a form which is machine readable.
   5. Once the Wikidata development team have completed the development of
   the datatypes required for this project (notably the URL datatype and the
   Number with Dimension datatype - both due to be completed by September 2013)
   [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap#Wikidata_deployment then
   the properties can be created and the Global Economic Map project will work
   with Wikidata to create bots to automatically import data from various
   databases into the various pages in Wikidata. Each datum will be a separate
   statement on wikidata with a source (where it came from, when it was
   downloaded) and appropriate qualifiers (industry sector, time period it
   refers to, location). Where automation is not practical the data will be
   imported by hand into Wikidata, including the source and date info.
   6. Wikidata will make this data, like all the data on Wikidata,
   available, through their public API, in various standard formats, so it can
   be reused by others.
   7. As part of Wikidata stage 3 (due autumn 2013) the Wikidata developers
   will work on creating queries and data visualisations using the data in
   Wikidata. The Economic World map team will create a mini standalone site
   where the economic data can be queried and displayed in various ways.
   8. The Global Economic Map team will work with the Wikidata stage 3
   developers and one of the wikipedias (probably not the English Wikipedia -
   their articles are pretty stable so they don't want too much
   experimentation) to create data visualisations using the data on Wikidata
   and add this to national and regional wikipedia pages. Once these are
   stable they can be adapted to other nations and regions on that wikipedia.
   These can then be be used as a model by other wikipedias.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The GAC wants you!

2013-07-19 Thread Alex Peek
I am interested to sign up and learn more about the process


On 19 July 2013 09:57, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 *bump*

 (thank you for the folks who have stepped up so far!)

A.


 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Hello, everyone.
 
  We could use some fresh b--- er, volunteers! -- in the Grant Advisory
  Committee (GAC).  As you may know, the GAC are community volunteers who
 are
  explicitly invited[1] to review and evaluate grant proposals made in the
  Wikimedia Foundation Grants Program[2], and offer advice to both grant
  applicants and the Foundation.
 
  Read all about it on the Candidates page[3].  New members will be
 inducted
  Aug 20th 2013, so be sure to step forward before then! :)
 
  Please help this message reach as many people as possible, by relaying it
  to appropriate lists and village pumps.
 
  Cheers,
 
 Asaf
 
  [1] _everyone_ is implicitly invited!
  [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
  [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee/Candidates
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  Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-19 Thread Alex Peek
All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table.


On 18 June 2013 23:42, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 18 June 2013 18:38, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

  I demand that my project gets global attention.


 Well you've got British and German



  I cannot emphasize how
  important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable
 of
  addressing our current problems (environmental destruction  world hunger,
  etc.).


 Given the current size of nuclear stockpiles I'd suggest it has.


  Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed.


 Been tried. Didn't end well.


  I feel
  morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention.
 

 Would you like us to direct you to the nearest mountain?


  My intentions are altruistic.  People are dying of starvation everyday
 and
  I will not shut up until they have food.
 

 You might want to study the issue a bit more closely before talking about
 it. For example people tend to be dying of malnutrition more than
 starvation per se



  I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please
 check
  them out.
 

 I'm not seeing what it adds to wikipedia or how it addresses the complex
 socio-political issues around modern food distribution. For example while
 the western world probably has the ability to end large scale malnutrition
 in north korea the deaths of 10 million or so people in Seoul during the
 opening stages of removing the kimn family from power make such actions
 undesirable.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-19 Thread Alex Peek
Thanks Jane for the response. I'll contact Wikidata and see how my data can
be incorporated. The thing about Wikidata is that its goal to be a very
expansive semantic database to support all other Wikipedia projects. I do
support Wikidata.

But the whole point of my project is create a short, simple model to
display economic statistics. This is to support the economic community.

I will make a list of articles using the [[outline]] feature. That seems
like the best idea.
Geni, i see what you mean. I'm not correct to call it the periodic table of
economics (no periods involved in my model).

I have somebody from the World Bank helping me out on this project also. He
said he would do the article for the Bahamas, Haiti and Bolivia. Another
student said he would work on Greece. I am have this project listed for
volunteers at the London School of Economics. I also contacted the newly
created Volcker Alliance. They have not gotten back to me. Once I finish
the top ten economies I'm going to print them all out and send it in the
mail to the Economist. I will do this project alone, but it would be nice
to have some volunteers.



On 19 June 2013 01:29, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 19 June 2013 08:56, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

  All that i believe is that the world needs an economic period table.
 
 
  As a chemist I beg to differ. I mean how is valency meant to work? What is
 the economic analogue of a d orbital? Periodicity in general seems rather
 weak. Metals vs non metals doesn't make much sense in an economic context.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-18 Thread Alex Peek
My project does not aim to be an expansive database like Wikidata. The goal
of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics readable to
laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted to make a
'periodic table' for economics.

I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how
important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of
addressing our current problems (environmental destruction  world hunger,
etc.). Change is needed. A new economic perspective is needed. I feel
morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for attention.
My intentions are altruistic.  People are dying of starvation everyday and
I will not shut up until they have food.

I have listed below draft article that I have been working on. Please check
them out.

Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map

Countries ranked by 2011 GDP

1. United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

2. China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China

3. Japan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan

4. Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany

5. France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France

6. Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil

7. United Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom

8. Italy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy

9. India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India

10. Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia


On 18 June 2013 03:07, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:
  I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using
  Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data.
 
  This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a
  different goal.

 Could you elaborate on this please? I'm not sure I understand the
 difference in goal.


 Cheers
 Lydia

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia for Diplomats (June 21)

2013-06-18 Thread Alex Peek
Thanks Everton, I will be sure to join the Webinar.

How can diplomats contribute to improve Wikipedia articles to increase
their public diplomacy value?

I am doing a Wikipedia project that is highly related to this issue that
attempts to standardize economic data on Wikipedia for every country and
city in the world. It's essentially the periodic table for economics. I
guarantee this will be a valuable resource in the future. Please check it
out: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map

Here are draft articles I am working on for the top ten economies:

Countries ranked by 2011 GDP

1. United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

2. China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China

3. Japan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan

4. Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany

5. France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France

6. Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil

7. United Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom

8. Italy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy

9. India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India

10. Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia


On 18 June 2013 11:54, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will be representing myself as a Wikimedia volunteer, who happens to hold
 a title related to AffCom and has a somewhat theoretical education of what
 diplomacy is supposed to be.
 I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics.

 The webinar will be broadcast using Google Hangouts probably on the Diplo
 Foundation's channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/DiploFoundation), but if
 you register, you will get the link to the broadcast.

 Best regards,
 Bence


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski 
 tom...@twkozlowski.net
  wrote:

  Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
 
   http://www.diplomacy.edu/**calendar/webinar-wikipedia-**diplomats
 http://www.diplomacy.edu/calendar/webinar-wikipedia-diplomats
 
 
  Is it just me who was surprised to see that Bence will be representing
 the
  Affiliations Committee during that webinar? I know for a fact that AffCom
  involves a lot of behind–the–scenes talks et al., but I don't think it's
  directly related to diplomacy issues?
 
  -- Tomasz
 
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy

2013-06-18 Thread Alex Peek
Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map

The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics
readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted
to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I am using Wikipedia as a
platform for this project to gain recognition.

I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how
important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable of
addressing our current problems. Change is needed. A new economic
perspective is needed. This project will enable the voting public to
clearly see the injustices of today's world economy.

I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for
attention. My intentions are altruistic.  People are dying of starvation
everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. We must build schools
in developing countries with taxpayer money in rich countries. We have the
power to fix a lot of the world's problems if we only allocated our
resources properly.

I have listed below draft article that I have been working on (not
finished). Please check them out. I would love any help I can get.

1. United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

2. China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China

3. Japan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan

4. Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany

5. France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France

6. Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil

7. United Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom

8. Italy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy

9. India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India

10. Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy

2013-06-18 Thread Alex Peek
I want to clarify that I am not a professional economist. I am a financial
economics major at Western Washington University.

These 'Economy of X'  are designed for laypersons to see the economic
reality of the world. I believe if the public were more informed on
economics, we would better chance solving world hunger.  Once this project
is finished, one will clearly see  that there are resources available to
solve most of societies problems. I believe that my project provides a very
strong argument for humanitarian organizations in the world.

This project is a fundamentally missing piece of the economic conversation.


On 18 June 2013 18:33, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex, just curious - since you refer to yourself as an economist,
 what institution(s) are you affiliated with?

 And can you explain how writing Economy of X articles, no matter how
 detailed, will solve the problem of uneven resource distribution
 around the world?

 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:
  Project Home page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map
 
  The goal of my project is create the *periodic table* for economics
  readable to laypersons. To my knowledge, no other economist has attempted
  to make a 'periodic table' for economics. I am using Wikipedia as a
  platform for this project to gain recognition.
 
  I demand that my project gets global attention. I cannot emphasize how
  important this is. The current political leadership has shown incapable
 of
  addressing our current problems. Change is needed. A new economic
  perspective is needed. This project will enable the voting public to
  clearly see the injustices of today's world economy.
 
  I feel morally responsible to stand on top of a mountain and yell for
  attention. My intentions are altruistic.  People are dying of starvation
  everyday and I will not shut up until they have food. We must build
 schools
  in developing countries with taxpayer money in rich countries. We have
 the
  power to fix a lot of the world's problems if we only allocated our
  resources properly.
 
  I have listed below draft article that I have been working on (not
  finished). Please check them out. I would love any help I can get.
 
  1. United States:
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States
 
  2. China:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China
 
  3. Japan:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan
 
  4. Germany:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany
 
  5. France:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France
 
  6. Brazil:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil
 
  7. United Kingdom
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom
 
  8. Italy
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy
 
  9. India
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India
 
  10. Russia
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 'Periodic Table of Economics': Mapping the Global Economy

2013-06-18 Thread Alex Peek
Thank you I will set that up


On 18 June 2013 20:40, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

  [...]
  These 'Economy of X'  are designed for laypersons to see the economic
  reality of the world.


 So it could be considered a set of articles for
 http://simple.wikipedia.org?

 Cheers,
 Micru
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[Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Peek
Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map

The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic data
and serve public administration.

It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can understand
and relate to. Given the challenges that our world faces today, our
civilization must realize the economic reality that we live in. Global
warming, world hunger, education and unemployment are all economic issues
that require a new perspective.

The voting public must be provided the materials to properly allocate
resources. We can end world hunger with foreign aid. We can create a modern
day renaissance by building schools around the world. We should put more
public money RD into renewable energies and create a cheaper alternative.
The world must understand wake up to the reality.

This format can be repeated for all 196 countries, every locality and city.
There can also be a standardized format for every company (model does not
exist yet).


Countries ranked by 2011 GDP

1. United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

2. China:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China

3. Japan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan

4. Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany

5. France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France

6. Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil

7. United Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom

8. Italy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy

9. India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India

10. Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Peek
Deryck, I re-read your message and i looked up the [[WP:outline]] feature.
Looks interesting, thanks for showing me that.


On 17 June 2013 12:07, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using
 Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data.

 This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a
 different goal.


 On 17 June 2013 12:00, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote:

 Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[WP:Outlines]] already, and
 therefore doesn't need its sister project? Future developments of Wikidata
 will make it even easier for such articles on Wikipedia to be updated.

 On 17 June 2013 19:56, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

  Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map
 
  The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic
 data
  and serve public administration.
 
  It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can
 understand
  and relate to. Given the challenges that our world faces today, our
  civilization must realize the economic reality that we live in. Global
  warming, world hunger, education and unemployment are all economic
 issues
  that require a new perspective.
 
  The voting public must be provided the materials to properly allocate
  resources. We can end world hunger with foreign aid. We can create a
 modern
  day renaissance by building schools around the world. We should put more
  public money RD into renewable energies and create a cheaper
 alternative.
  The world must understand wake up to the reality.
 
  This format can be repeated for all 196 countries, every locality and
 city.
  There can also be a standardized format for every company (model does
 not
  exist yet).
 
 
  Countries ranked by 2011 GDP
 
  1. United States:
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States
 
  2. China:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China
 
  3. Japan:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan
 
  4. Germany:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Germany
 
  5. France:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_France
 
  6. Brazil:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Brazil
 
  7. United Kingdom
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom
 
  8. Italy
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Italy
 
  9. India
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_India
 
  10. Russia
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economic_summary_of_Russia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Alex Peek
Honest hardworking non-profits deserve more taxpayer money. I am optimistic
that future generations figure this out


On 28 April 2013 16:42, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Asking for money to do something you are passionate about, and being
 subject to the scrutiny and criticism of your valued peers, was always
 going to be a wrenching and soul-sucking process. This is a good time
 to acknowledge that, and to think about how the FDC can make
 volunteers more comfortable and reduce the stress and burden imposed
 upon them.

 That said... It seems to be an eminently legitimate point, that taking
 a chapter from essentially no funding to US$200k in one year is a
 massive leap that is both risky and unnecessary.  Maybe it would make
 more sense to go from zero staff members to one, instead of three? Pay
 on a contract basis for book-keeping and legal assistance, and hire a
 program person to help coordinate volunteer programmatic efforts?

 Perhaps what's needed from the FDC is better guidance in advance about
 what the organic growth chart of chapter organizations should look
 like, and what level of funding increases year to year can be expected
 vs. what is out of bounds. We don't want volunteers to feel encouraged
 to shoot for the moon, and then suffer when their dreams are
 punctured. While predictably will accrue on its own over time and
 experience, better guidance on what to expect might make those
 experiences less painful for all involved.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join

2013-04-20 Thread Alex Peek
I want Wikipedia editors to duplicate this page for every country. Here are
links to the China and Japan data:
http://enhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan.
wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China


On 19 April 2013 23:18, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote:

 Hi jokoswt,

 [ please reply to all recipients (Hit Reply all). ]

 On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:19:58 +0700
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  Join member wiki. Thank you.
 

 What do you mean exactly? It's hard to understand your English.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Peek
There's a signature list for wikipedians to show support in the project:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map


On 9 April 2013 12:35, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 i have also posted my vision on talk page for 'economy of the united
 states, japan, china, germany, united kingdom' articles on Wikipedia. I
 also posted on the Project - Econ talk page


 On 9 April 2013 12:21, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm in the marketing stage of the project and looking for editors for
 this project. I have posted the project proposal to Krugman's blog and a
 few separate blogs on the Economist.

 Any advice on what I should next do to get the word out?


 On 8 April 2013 14:57, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote:

 Le lundi 08 avril 2013 à 23:09 +0200, Jane Darnell a écrit :
  Mathieu,
  I just watched a Dutch documentary about this same issue last week.
  The main gist of the documentary is that the corporations avoid taxes
  in a structured way: they go to tax havens or take advantage of
  economic arrangements where the the first five years of residence are
  tax free in return for starting up a business. The countries offering
  the tax haven are hoping for sustainable local business, but instead,
  after 5 years the premises are deserted and offered tax free to the
  next corporation, so that a rotational system of multi-nationals is
  devised.  The global economy has become not only a mobile one for
  individuals, but also for corporations.
 
  In order to be able to see such developments in an open economic
  map, much more underlying data needs to be plugged in to Wikipedia in
  terms of articles about global industrial localities, global
  industrial corporations, and then local economic industrial data. All
  of these things are very badly documented when it comes to developing
  countries, where much of this is happening. Today, Wikipedia is mainly
  written in (and about!) Western Europe and North America.
  Jane

 What I understood from the France Culture radio emission was even worst,
 because it said it was not exception of the system but the core of
 the modern financial system. It said that the tax haven countries can
 be tax havens only because they passed an agreement with other
 countries. In other word, the political will is to maintain this
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-09 Thread Alex Peek
I'm in the marketing stage of the project and looking for editors for this
project. I have posted the project proposal to Krugman's blog and a few
separate blogs on the Economist.

Any advice on what I should next do to get the word out?


On 8 April 2013 14:57, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:

 Le lundi 08 avril 2013 à 23:09 +0200, Jane Darnell a écrit :
  Mathieu,
  I just watched a Dutch documentary about this same issue last week.
  The main gist of the documentary is that the corporations avoid taxes
  in a structured way: they go to tax havens or take advantage of
  economic arrangements where the the first five years of residence are
  tax free in return for starting up a business. The countries offering
  the tax haven are hoping for sustainable local business, but instead,
  after 5 years the premises are deserted and offered tax free to the
  next corporation, so that a rotational system of multi-nationals is
  devised.  The global economy has become not only a mobile one for
  individuals, but also for corporations.
 
  In order to be able to see such developments in an open economic
  map, much more underlying data needs to be plugged in to Wikipedia in
  terms of articles about global industrial localities, global
  industrial corporations, and then local economic industrial data. All
  of these things are very badly documented when it comes to developing
  countries, where much of this is happening. Today, Wikipedia is mainly
  written in (and about!) Western Europe and North America.
  Jane

 What I understood from the France Culture radio emission was even worst,
 because it said it was not exception of the system but the core of
 the modern financial system. It said that the tax haven countries can
 be tax havens only because they passed an agreement with other
 countries. In other word, the political will is to maintain this
 system.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-09 Thread Alex Peek
i have also posted my vision on talk page for 'economy of the united
states, japan, china, germany, united kingdom' articles on Wikipedia. I
also posted on the Project - Econ talk page


On 9 April 2013 12:21, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm in the marketing stage of the project and looking for editors for this
 project. I have posted the project proposal to Krugman's blog and a few
 separate blogs on the Economist.

 Any advice on what I should next do to get the word out?


 On 8 April 2013 14:57, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote:

 Le lundi 08 avril 2013 à 23:09 +0200, Jane Darnell a écrit :
  Mathieu,
  I just watched a Dutch documentary about this same issue last week.
  The main gist of the documentary is that the corporations avoid taxes
  in a structured way: they go to tax havens or take advantage of
  economic arrangements where the the first five years of residence are
  tax free in return for starting up a business. The countries offering
  the tax haven are hoping for sustainable local business, but instead,
  after 5 years the premises are deserted and offered tax free to the
  next corporation, so that a rotational system of multi-nationals is
  devised.  The global economy has become not only a mobile one for
  individuals, but also for corporations.
 
  In order to be able to see such developments in an open economic
  map, much more underlying data needs to be plugged in to Wikipedia in
  terms of articles about global industrial localities, global
  industrial corporations, and then local economic industrial data. All
  of these things are very badly documented when it comes to developing
  countries, where much of this is happening. Today, Wikipedia is mainly
  written in (and about!) Western Europe and North America.
  Jane

 What I understood from the France Culture radio emission was even worst,
 because it said it was not exception of the system but the core of
 the modern financial system. It said that the tax haven countries can
 be tax havens only because they passed an agreement with other
 countries. In other word, the political will is to maintain this
 system.

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[Wikimedia-l] Economy of the United States

2013-04-08 Thread Alex Peek
Here is the proposed format for the project

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States#Creditors
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Alex Peek
Clay Shirky talks about the importance of online collaboration:
http://www.ted.com/talks/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html


On 8 April 2013 07:13, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fred Bauder, 08/04/2013 15:38:

  Don't worry. Any one who has thought about this sort of thing much has
 come away more puzzled than when they began. What for example is the
 value of a cigarette? The price is rather easy.


 Better example: what is the value of a park, of trees in a city, of a
 public library, etc. Maybe the question would be easier to answer if
 rephrases as: what's the impact on HDI, on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*
 *Gross_national_happinesshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_national_happiness(;-)
  ) or other measures that somehow numerical but not monetary.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikiecon

2013-04-07 Thread Alex Peek
Discussion at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Economics
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[Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-06 Thread Alex Peek
I would love to see a Wiki project map out the global economy. In an
organized format all local/country economic data would be collected. All
authors would be required to write articles according to a standardized
format. The model revolves around publicly released economic data: GDP,
employment, industries, corporations, fiscal policy, etc. Economists and
volunteers can help determine which economic data accounts are most
appropriate to be required under the standardized format.

There is nothing in the world that resembles this model. There is no Wiki
that allows economists to add economic data under a standardized format.

I have already written the article for 'Economy of the United States'. It
is 7 pages long. This article contains what I believe is the most important
economic data available to the public. The data is almost entirely in table
format. Citations include the U.S. Census Bureau, the World Bank, Bureau of
Economic Analysis, Yahoo Finance, CNN'S Money's Fortune 500 list, U.S.
treasury releases, Federal Reserve websites, company annual reports and the
IMF. The file can be seen at the Wikimedia Commons:


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Economy.pdf


The Contents of the U.S. Economy article are: 1. States, 2. Industries, 3.
Corporations, 4. Employment, 5. Fiscal Budget, 6. Monetary Policy, 7.
Creditors, 8. Cities, 9. International Accounts 9. History

All articles would be standardized and connected in an organized network.
This model would go down to the most local level. All 196 countries would
have a standardized country article to have the same exact format. This
project would evolve as economists determine better ways to present the
data.

The 'Economy of __' pages are very educational and are an awesome
collection of economic data. I think that these articles would be greatly
improved if they were modified to become more uniform. This would allow for
greater comparability. I believe that these pages would be improved with a
standardized and simplified format. This would allow for greater
comparability and public understanding of the economy.

Below are the Wikipedia Contents of the four biggest economy articles. As
you can see, the Contents are inconsistent between them. I believe this can
be fixed with my Wiki project proposal.

Economy of the United States 1 History 2 Overview 3 Employment 4 Research,
development, and entrepreneurship 5 Income and wealth 6 Financial position
7 Industry Sectors 8 Notable companies and markets 9 Energy,
transportation, and telecommunications 10 Finance 11 Health care 12
International trade 13 Currency and central bank 14 Law and government 15
See also 16 References 17 External links

Economy of China 1 History 2 Government role 3 Regional economies 4
Development 5 Macroeconomic trends 6 Financial and banking system 7
Industry Sectors 8 Labor and welfare 9 External trade 10 Foreign investment
11 Demographics 12 Transportation and infrastructure 13 Science and
technology 14 See also 15 References 16 External links

Economy of Japan 1 Economic history 2 Infrastructure 3 Macro-economic trend
4 Services 5 Industry 6 Mining and petroleum exploration 7 Agriculture 8
Labor force 9 Law and government 10 Culture 11 Other economic indicators 12
See also 13 Notes 14 External links

Economy of Germany 1 History 2 Macroeconomic data 3 Economic region 4
Natural resources 5 Sectors 6 Infrastructure 7 Technology 8 See also 9
References 10 External links
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global Economic Map

2013-04-06 Thread Alex Peek
Thank you for the advice,

I have cited all sources for the U.S. Economy. It's easy to replicate where
to find employment statistics, company statistics for all levels (national,
states, counties). I believe I can find economists who would be willing to
set this thing up.

As for international economic statistics, local economists would be
responsible to find, upload and cite information.

Wikidata is a great idea and I believe that it plays a unique role for the
Wikimedia Foundation. Centralizing data links is a great project and I
believe it will be a success.

My project is closer related to Wikispecies or Wikitravel. It specializes
in standardized economic research reports. Economic research reports are
vital to academic understanding of the economy. I would love to see more
standardized economic reports in the world for greater comparability
between countries.

I will fix the PDF problem.


On 6 April 2013 10:57, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex,
 This is an excellent idea, though not a project I would jump into with
 a mad dash. I find economic summaries very entertaining, but I would
 be at a loss about how to collect the data you need for my region
 (among other things).
 I think you need two things to start off with; a group of enthusiasts,
 and a vision. You now have a team of one attempting to organize the US
 econ pages. That's great, but I would try to make contact with econ
 page editors in at least two non-English Wikipedias. Your vision
 document would be more useful if it was not a PDF and was wikified
 with links out to the sub pages you are attempting to define in your
 email. You can do this on a wikipage in your user space on the English
 Wikipedia or on Wikimedia Commons.

 My gut feeling is that most of the structure you are seeking to
 develop should *not* be done on either of these projects, but on
 Wikidata.

 Just my 2c
 Jane

 2013/4/6, Alex Peek alexpe...@gmail.com:
  I would love to see a Wiki project map out the global economy. In an
  organized format all local/country economic data would be collected. All
  authors would be required to write articles according to a standardized
  format. The model revolves around publicly released economic data: GDP,
  employment, industries, corporations, fiscal policy, etc. Economists and
  volunteers can help determine which economic data accounts are most
  appropriate to be required under the standardized format.
 
  There is nothing in the world that resembles this model. There is no Wiki
  that allows economists to add economic data under a standardized format.
 
  I have already written the article for 'Economy of the United States'. It
  is 7 pages long. This article contains what I believe is the most
 important
  economic data available to the public. The data is almost entirely in
 table
  format. Citations include the U.S. Census Bureau, the World Bank, Bureau
 of
  Economic Analysis, Yahoo Finance, CNN'S Money's Fortune 500 list, U.S.
  treasury releases, Federal Reserve websites, company annual reports and
 the
  IMF. The file can be seen at the Wikimedia Commons:
 
 
  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Economy.pdf
 
 
  The Contents of the U.S. Economy article are: 1. States, 2. Industries,
 3.
  Corporations, 4. Employment, 5. Fiscal Budget, 6. Monetary Policy, 7.
  Creditors, 8. Cities, 9. International Accounts 9. History
 
  All articles would be standardized and connected in an organized network.
  This model would go down to the most local level. All 196 countries would
  have a standardized country article to have the same exact format. This
  project would evolve as economists determine better ways to present the
  data.
 
  The 'Economy of __' pages are very educational and are an awesome
  collection of economic data. I think that these articles would be greatly
  improved if they were modified to become more uniform. This would allow
 for
  greater comparability. I believe that these pages would be improved with
 a
  standardized and simplified format. This would allow for greater
  comparability and public understanding of the economy.
 
  Below are the Wikipedia Contents of the four biggest economy articles. As
  you can see, the Contents are inconsistent between them. I believe this
 can
  be fixed with my Wiki project proposal.
 
  Economy of the United States 1 History 2 Overview 3 Employment 4
 Research,
  development, and entrepreneurship 5 Income and wealth 6 Financial
 position
  7 Industry Sectors 8 Notable companies and markets 9 Energy,
  transportation, and telecommunications 10 Finance 11 Health care 12
  International trade 13 Currency and central bank 14 Law and government 15
  See also 16 References 17 External links
 
  Economy of China 1 History 2 Government role 3 Regional economies 4
  Development 5 Macroeconomic trends 6 Financial and banking system 7
  Industry Sectors 8 Labor and welfare 9 External trade 10 Foreign
 investment
  11 Demographics 12