Re: [Wikimedia-l] Survey about the Foundation's Mission

2019-01-16 Thread Alex Power
Presumably a large majority of people didn't bother to respond to the
survey.

If you want to continue running surveys pushing your personal agenda until
everyone except your fan-club ignores you and you get the results you want,
I can't stop you, I can merely castigate you and recommend that the
Foundation ignore you.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:48 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far.
> Why are these questions so offensive to the vocal minority who have
> demanded that they not be discussed? Many nonprofit organizations
> depending on volunteer labor advocates for social changes in support
> of those volunteers, including by lobbying.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM Risker  wrote:
> >
> > I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for
> his
> > own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the
> WMF
> > or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
> > that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions
> are
> > an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
> >
> > Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
> > perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
> > step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
> > occasions to stay on topic.  I am not sure that James needs to remain a
> > contributor to this list.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's
> clear
> > > > here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and
> has
> > > no
> > > > origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
> > >
> > > Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
> > > encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
> > > which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
> > > given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
> > > https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana)  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little
> to
> > > > do with the Foundation's mission.
> > >
> > > That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
> > > idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
> > > proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
> > > contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
> > > > >
> > > > > What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> > > > > contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> > > > > Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> > > > > people to collect and develop educational content:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://bit.ly/wikimission
> > > > >
> > > > > The survey results are summarized after form submission.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Jim Salsman
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] convert from BitCoin to FoldingCoin and other proofs of useful work

2018-04-11 Thread Alex Power
This is an awful idea.

The primary reason the WMF needs to accept Bitcoin as a donation is due to
the substantial tax benefits accepting it gives to donors.  It is an asset
that has increased massively in value, and holders can donate it and deduct
the current value from their taxes, without paying capital gains.  If there
is demand, it would likely make sense to accept Ethereum donations for the
same reason.

Nobody particularly knows, cares, or has capital gains in FoldingCoin, and
it's not the place of the foundation to promote it or your whitepaper.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:45 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Foundation has been accepting BitCoin donations. Unfortunately,
> BitCoin is very wasteful in terms of electricity, and is therefore a
> dirty cryptocurrency.
>
> I recommend that the Foundation immediately cease accepting BitCoin,
> and require donors who wish to donate in cryptocurrency to convert to
> FoldingCoin instead. Please see: FoldingCoin (FLDC)
> http://foldingcoin.net/ whitepaper:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y4MV9AwGLTRFqD-
> kjC4uN0AX59kHOpO1OWsabnxxUIs
>
> This conversion will place the Foundation at the forefront of
> cryptocurrency technology, and stop it from contributing to extremely
> dirty waste. As other cryptocurrencies based on proofs of useful work
> instead of useless work emerge, the Foundation should consider those.
> FoldingCoin is based on proofs of useful prediction of protein
> folding, which is useful for computer-aided antibody design, and used
> in turn for cancer therapies and many other applied and research
> medical fields.
>
> I also invite anyone in the community interested in co-authoring my
> forthcoming derivative whitepaper on proofs of useful intelligibility
> remediation work to contact me off-list, please. I am also willing to
> help with proofs of useful encyclopedia article improvement, but I am
> not certain if ORES is yet robust enough to support such proof in a
> secure fashion.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Salsman
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Alex Power
Consensus is easy to obtain when trying to solve easy problems, and hard to
obtain when trying to solve hard problems.  I doubt that this tool will
change that.

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Mathieu,
>
> you wrote
>
> > Despite the fact that reaching community consensus is an easy task,
>
> I just wanted to check whether that was a typo, irony, or actually meant
> that way. In the latter case, I would like to ask for {{cn}}.
>
> Reaching and establishing community consensus seems to me one of the
> hardest tasks we are facing, which is why this sentence astonished me, and
> made me think whether I missed something fundamental.
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:56 AM Kunal Mehta <lego...@member.fsf.org> wrote:
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > Hi,
> >
> > On 12/07/2017 04:51 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote:
> > > Loomio offers free use for community cases. But it's non-free
> > > software, as far as I can see, but I didn't made deep inquiry. So I
> > > wondered if anyone was aware of a free software equivalent.
> >
> > Loomio is free software, it's licensed under the GNU Affero General
> > Public License[1][2].
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/loomio/loomio/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
> > [2] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-affero-gpl.html
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