Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-15 Thread Andrew Lih
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:40 PM Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > Likewise. I often refrain from commenting when I think it is more > collaborative and peaceful to do so, though. > > dj "pundit" > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:00 PM James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com>> wrote: > As I trustee, I read and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Andrew Lih
.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 3:03 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > The precautionary principle is labelled as an official policy of Commons. > I think it should be mentioned on the assume good faith page as it explains > why it is sometimes impractical to assume good faith

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Andrew Lih
t; Yann > Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator > https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ > +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) > > > > Le dim. 12 mai 2019 à 19:59, Andrew Lih a écrit : > > > This episode exposes a policy of Commons that may be unknown to many > folks > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Andrew Lih
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-17 Thread Andrew Lih
ia_is_not=892851061=892427747=source Yes it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not=892895993=892851061=source And so on. -- -Andrew Lih Author of The Wikipedia Revolution US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016) Knight Foundation grant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-16 Thread Andrew Lih
re saying that the best way forward is to > fold the Wikinews operation into Wikipedia. Is that right? Fold Wikinews altogether so it doesn’t confuse the public. Wikipedia editors are already doing a stellar job. Andrew > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:15 PM Andrew Lih wrote: > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-16 Thread Andrew Lih
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:27 PM Jennifer Pryor-Summers < jennifer.pryorsumm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wikinews may not be doing too well, but (English-language) Wikipedia seems > to have taken up a news-gathering role not entirely consistent with its > encyclopediac mission: perhaps that's the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-12 Thread Andrew Lih
Responses below: On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 5:07 PM Strainu wrote: > > I would argue that, on the contrary, for the outside word we were less > Wikipedia 10 years ago. Around that time there was still hope that > Wikibooks or Wikinews could still be successful, at least in some > languages. New

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-10 Thread Andrew Lih
g/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > ___ &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FY1718 Fundraising Report now published

2018-10-01 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > It might sound naive but Singapore also has lots of potential. Please > correct me if I'm wrong. > We just had a meet-up there last month. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Singapore_X -Andrew

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FY1718 Fundraising Report now published

2018-10-01 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Ilario Valdelli wrote: > Yes but India has probably 2 times the population of the whole Europe... > and cannot be defined like a "poor" country. I Think that the same is valid > also for East Asia. > > No it's not simple to compare but the amount donated in Asia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-29 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 4:31 AM Chris Keating wrote: > Hi Lodewijk, > > If Wikimania was an entity rather than an event, it would be in the > top 5 entities in the movement - a smaller budget than WMF, Wikimedia > Deutschland and the Wiki Education Foundation but larger than anything > else... >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:46 PM James Heilman wrote: > The Wikimedia Conference is "closed" in that only those who are invited are > allowed to attend. Wikimania is an open conference meaning basically anyone > can attend, including those currently outside the movement. This is a great point

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating wrote: > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > consultation, but I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-19 Thread Andrew Lih
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

2017-08-25 Thread Andrew Lih
I'd like to second what Rob has expressed here. This list already suffers a very poor reputation within our community, even as it is positioned as an important part of our communications ecosystem. Allowing participants to intimidate others and exact "in real life" consequences should be dealt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] News on Wkipedia

2017-08-24 Thread Andrew Lih
1. You misread en:WP:NOTNEWS . The policy doesn't say news is forbidden. It is that Wikipedia should consider notability and original research concerns and not act as a newspaper. Actual wording: "editors are encouraged to include current and up-to-date information within its coverage, and to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

2017-06-02 Thread Andrew Lih
Thanks David. More than a year ago, I started a “What’s Making You Happy” prompt in the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group as a weekly invitation for folks to share their stories, large and small. I’m glad to see it spreading to more corners of our community.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikitribune!

2017-04-26 Thread Andrew Lih
Thanks for the reminder about that message, I had actually forgotten about it. -Andrew On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:23 AM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > Last time I remember we had a discussion¹ was September 2011 (!): > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011- >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-05 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 3:46 AM, George William Herbert < george.herb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that the idea of taking the weekend off from the topic is > excellent. We may not have reached universal consensus yet but everything > we needed to have said was, and it's been acknowledged as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] documentaries about Wikipedia

2016-12-10 Thread Andrew Lih
PS: One more video in that collection that was used: Wiki Loves Libraries 2013 https://vimeo.com/78005986 On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Lih <andrew@gmail.com> wrote: > While this is not a documentary per se, this video is a “reel” of the best > videos of the Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] documentaries about Wikipedia

2016-12-10 Thread Andrew Lih
While this is not a documentary per se, this video is a “reel” of the best videos of the Wikimedia movement strung together that in the US, we’ve played before edit-a-thons and events. It’s about 25 minutes in total, and there’s a countdown timer in the upper left hand corner that helps give folks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

2016-11-10 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > You do not get it. Wikimania is first and foremost about spreading the word > about what we do and who we are. > {{citationneeded}} The reality is Wikimania is largely a community event first, with the

[Wikimedia-l] WikiConference North America - Submissions deadline Aug 31

2016-08-31 Thread Andrew Lih
WikiConference North America 2016 7-10 October 2016, San Diego, CA, USA SUBMISSIONS DEADLINE: August 31, 11:59pm Samoa Time! https://wikiconference.org/wiki/Submissions WikiConference North America (formerly WikiConference USA) is the third annual conference on the North American continent

[Wikimedia-l] WikiConference North America, October 7-10 in San Diego

2016-08-22 Thread Andrew Lih
WikiConference North America 2016 7-10 October 2016, San Diego, CA, USA SCHOLARSHIP DEADLINE: August 23! WikiConference North America (formerly WikiConference USA) is the third annual conference on the North American continent devoted to Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects. The weekend will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An example where search could be improved

2016-07-28 Thread Andrew Lih
We recently had a thread in the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group, where we pretty much concluded the reason why we don’t have word in English for “looked it up in Wikipedia” is because that word is “Googled it.” :) https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/1050447111669786/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What can we learn

2016-04-09 Thread Andrew Lih
Did you miss a “not” in there? Fae said: “Trustees are an unpaid volunteer position, leaving your seat should be made to appear like a royal abdication or the result of failure.” Suggested edit: “…leaving your seat should NOT be made to appear like a royal abdication or the result of failure.”

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-03 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Risker wrote: > > Thanks. I think one idea would be to e.g. invite a community representative > to each meeting as an observer, responsible for reviewing the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems

2016-02-21 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Thyge wrote: > I acknowledge that a group of wikipedians may discuss in any forum, they > prefer. Doing > it in a closed forum on FB does not, however, constitute a discussion by > the community, > because it excludes a lot of people who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems

2016-02-21 Thread Andrew Lih
Hi all, it’s probably useful to paste in the “What for?” message for the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group. Hopefully it will help clear things up. —- From: https://www.facebook.com/notes/wikipedia-weekly/introduction-to-the-ww-group/961015923946239 This is a quick note about what goes on here in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania

2016-02-16 Thread Andrew Lih
Your comments are inaccurate, not useful, and completely antithetical to our principles. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > On 09.02.2016 16:40, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > When you cap Wikimania, who is not to come? > > Employees of the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-10 Thread Andrew Lih
GerardM, As much as I agree with you on many things related to Wikimania, your statement about en.wp and USA being “over subsidized” is off base. For the last few years I’ve held my tongue as American applicants get a fraction of 10% of all the funding for Wikimania scholarships. That’s because

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-10 Thread Andrew Lih
gt; their probability to attend Wikimania on their own tends to zero. (source > for the exchange rate <https://dolartoday.com/>) > > _____ > > *​​**Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Aju

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-19 Thread Andrew Lih
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > Magnus, you've missed the point of the visual editor revolt. A couple of > people here have tried to explain that to you, politely. And you're > persisting with your idée fixe. > To be fair, Magnus was addressing more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-19 Thread Andrew Lih
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:40 PM Anthony Cole wrote: > > > I notice VE isn't even an option when I log out and edit en.Wikipedia, > yet > > above others are saying it is much improved and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Andrew Lih
I cannot speak for Magnus, but there’s a distinction that needs to be made: Writing, “… all have been resisted by vocal groups of editors, not because they are a problem, but because they represent change” is not maligning all editors who complain. It simply says that those who resist innovation

[Wikimedia-l] WikiConference USA in DC

2015-10-08 Thread Andrew Lih
Just a reminder that WikiConference USA will be from October 9-11, in Washington DC at the National Archives. The main McGowan theater sessions will be live streamed via YouTube. If all goes well, we'll have the other sessions recorded for release later. Schedule:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Media handling is difficult

2015-07-31 Thread Andrew Lih
FYI, for those interested in uploading to Commons, there was an interesting presentation at Wikimania about usability testing this. https://archive.org/details/videoeditserver-96 The short answer to your very valid question -- licenses and copyright are complicated legal issues when it comes to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

2015-06-01 Thread Andrew Lih
Milos, thanks for initiating the conversation. Some random thoughts: 1. The efforts to get people to vote are admirable, and it's heartening to see the participation trend reversed. 2. There is the elephant in the room which is the recent DE Mediaviewer/super protect issue. It is possible it has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-17 Thread Andrew Lih
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:13 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I am not too sure about this. No single piece of open source software comes to my mind when hearing bay area or silicon Valley. And no people living there and no company located there. Except the Gnu c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

2015-04-13 Thread Andrew Lih
To the first Wikimedian to get a tattoo of your item number ... I salute you. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-13 21:27 GMT+02:00 Pavel Richter m...@pavelrichter.de: Thank you, Q577729! [...] Q15903779 (ROFL, you are the cool

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New financing model for editations

2015-03-19 Thread Andrew Lih
Rather than making edit-a-thons more restrictive, our project in DC is doing the opposite - having a Wikipedia on-ramp available five days a week, in one of the most high profile places in the US, at the National Archives (NARA). Wikipedia Space is a project launching by July 2015 at the NARA

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New financing model for editations

2015-03-19 Thread Andrew Lih
It may be obvious but it bears pointing out: There is no ONE right universal model for edit-a-thons. Think of all the variables -- Wikipedia topic, location, local culture, language, target constituency, medium/form factor, et al. It's all about us coherently sharing our best practices and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Lih
Probably a good time for everyone to know about EFF's HTTPS Everywhere: HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox, Chrome, and Opera extension that encrypts your communications with many major websites, making your browsing more secure. Encrypt the web: Install HTTPS Everywhere today.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Veteran Malayalam Wikipedian BabuG signed off...

2015-03-05 Thread Andrew Lih
Condolences to the community. I let the Signpost folks know, and there will be a writeup on this coming shortly. -Andrew On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Viswa, Thank you so much for letting us know of this editor's inspiring story. We are sorry to lose

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: Il 25/Gen/2015 12:18 Martin Kraft martin.kr...@gmx.de ha scritto: Did I miss some aspect? Is there a point in converting something visual into something visual? I have been told that people born deaf find more

[Wikimedia-l] Audio podcasts from Wikiconference USA

2014-05-31 Thread Andrew Lih
For those interested in what's going on at Wikiconference USA, Wikipedia Weekly podcast is back, with two episodes from the conference: Here's a wrap-up of the first day of the conference, including summary of keynotes and selected sessions: https://archive.org/details/wikipedia-weekly-110 In

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UC Berkeley hires Wikipedian in Residence

2014-03-19 Thread Andrew Lih
This is the only thing approaching a complete list I've seen. Kevin is on it, but the information is stale. https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_Residence Update please! -Andrew On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2014 13:11, Tomasz W.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2014-03-10 Thread Andrew Lih
Jimmy's already noted this is WRONG, but the erroneous Telegraph story reads: Wikipedia charity begins accepting Bitcoin donations after co-founder Jimmy Wales set up a personal account to play around with digital currency and was swamped with cash

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-18 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The RFC is non-neutral and unnecessarily complex. With so much experience of trying these things, along with full time expertise, I would hope for a more sophisticated approach from in-house WMF teams. It is actually very complex

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lih
://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LVilla_(WMF)) 05:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Chad Horohoe choro...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2014/1/16 Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com: As much as I am pushing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lih
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.netwrote: * Andrew Lih wrote: BTW, Luis from WMF has put a very lengthy and detailed analysis of the legal issues that does help quite a bit, at the end of the RFC: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lih
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that hasn't come up in the debate is the relative importance of Wikimedia's approach to video, given the existing video ecosystem. YouTube enables cc-by uploading and has 4 million videos with a free license, and 6.5

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lih
I'm not sure what debate you're referring to. If it's about whether video belongs in Wikipedia, I don't think it's even in question. Wikipedia started in 2001 as all text. It didn't have photos then, we now have photos. It didn't have audio then, we now have audio. It didn't have video then, we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lih
Ah. Well if you're not even buying into the legitimacy of photos on Commons, I'm not sure there's a way to have a productive discussion about video. -Andrew On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
Great post Manuel, and I wholeheartedly agree, including the final recommendation. I, instead, voted for full MP4 support on the RfC to draw the center of gravity towards accepting MP4, but I would be happy even with a partial solution. Some points: 1. The video project in English Wikipedia is:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
James, This is the first time I've ever heard the phrase Wiktionary headwords in my life :) I'm partial, but there's a very strong case that video in Wikipedia has a large impact and interest level that justifies this much time on it. -Andrew On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:16 AM, James Salsman

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
As much as I am pushing for MP4 adoption in Wikimedia to help our lagging video efforts, MPEG-4 patent holders/licensors are not helping their case: 1. The consumer licensing agreement from ATT is scary and weird, and Geni's first NO vote has set the tone for many to follow.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart kel...@kiwix.orgwrote: Le 16/01/2014 12:54, Manuel Schneider a écrit : The reason this idea was dismissed is the core of this RfC: patent trolling etc. on H.264 codecs etc. which we would need to allow as raw material. We have now a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
wrote: On 16 January 2014 15:36, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: This proposal asks to move to a free as in beer model, where content will be free to view, but not necessarily to reuse (and with the opaque

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: So claiming that it's assuming bad faith to notice this and say so comes across as disingenuous. That is exactly my intent. I don't mean to imply WMF is acting with malice here. However, in this instance, a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Lionel Allorge lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org wrote: Hi, On the contrary, we should encourage people to edit their videos with tutorials and to render the final edit in a free file format. Agree. As part of Wiki Makes Video, we've done some of this already,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: There aren't two principles in conflict here. This proposal asks to move to a free as in beer model, where content will be free to view, but not necessarily to reuse (and with the opaque license, it may not even be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-10 Thread Andrew Lih
Ting and Christophe, Glad to hear we are moving forward on finding more sophisticated ways of thinking about paid editing. At least for the English Wikipedians I've talked to, many are pleasantly surprised that the European editions are able to find a cooperative relationship with paid, corporate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

2013-11-14 Thread Andrew Lih
FYI, on the last Wikipedia Weekly podcast, we talked with Sage Ross about the plagiarism issue, and he walked through the study with some very interesting insights. Video here, and the discussion started at 11 minutes, 30 seconds into the podcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOgYytn2JRk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-26 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:40 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 September 2013 19:33, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: It has something to do with countering falsehoods and educating folks about the full range of content rights. Their 2nd grade materials state: Property

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Andrew Lih
I disagree that this is simply political. It is very much a culture of ownership -- and a corporate one at that -- being instituted earlier to American kids. If you remember, it was exactly this problem that inspired Lawrence Lessig to start Creative Commons in the first place. He observed that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Andrew Lih
plans. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I disagree that this is simply political. This doesn't answer my original question. What does this have to do with WMF? Wikipedia does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-25 Thread Andrew Lih
and that someone is expecting to be paid. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffComs $40,000 Hong Kong junket

2013-05-13 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: ...Paris and London are both more expensive cities that Hong Kong, so I'd expect the daily rate here to be closer to $130/night, and ideally less than that where bookings are made sufficiently in advance. Not to be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffComs $40,000 Hong Kong junket

2013-05-13 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: That list is for 5 star hotels; something that I hope that donor money is never put towards covering the cost of; regardlessofwho itis. I don't see any indication that list is for 5 star hotels. Also, I'm not sure