Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft schedule of Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2020

2020-09-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Indeed, acronyms are best expanded on first use.  A truly constructive way
to point it out, Mr. During, would have been to model the change you would
like to see yourself.

CEE = Central and Eastern Europe.

A.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:57 PM Dennis During  wrote:

> Would it be unreasonable to ask that a notice to a general mailing list
> from an organizational unit such as CEE actually had the full name of the
> organizational unit?  Even the two linked Meta pages did not contain the
> name. Only the Eventbrite page had it.  Some mailings seem to have wandered
> in from the US DoD or some other country's bureaucracy. It doesn't seem
> unreasonable to me that the opening post for a new thread should not have
> any acronym or initialism, but should have the topical organization, event,
> proposal, or whatever spelled out (Yes, even CoC.). It would seem to me
> that such is a requirement for the kind of inclusiveness we are allegedly
> seeking.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:41 AM Kiril Simeonovski <
> kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to inform you that the draft schedule
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2020/Programme#Schedule
> > >
> > of
> > the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2020, which will take place from 2–4
> >  October, has been published. We have received proposals covering
> > interesting topics with creative ideas and it was a real challenge to
> > accommodate them in the optimal way. Thank you for your interest in
> taking
> > part as a speaker.
> >
> > The registration for the event is still open. You can add your username
> to
> > the list of participants
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2020/Participants/List
> > >
> > and
> > subsequently confirm your participation by getting your ticket for free
> on
> > the following link
> > <
> >
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimedia-cee-online-meeting-2020-tickets-116483763071
> > >
> > . *Note that the number of participants per community is unlimited and we
> > also welcome interested participants from outside the CEE region.
> > *Additionally,
> > there is no obligation to attend all sessions at the conference and you
> can
> > freely choose only those that you find particularly interested in.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kiril
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #009 digest (Abstract Wikipedia); #010 today at 13:00 UTC

2020-09-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #009. [1]

The topics discussed were:

* Abstract Wikipedia
* Translation of modules
* Feedback on Abstract Wikipedia in various existing communities

I encourage those of you interested in any of the above topics to read the
digest. [1]

Today (Sep 15th) at 13:00 UTC we will be hosting Wikimedia Clinic #010,
with the scheduled segment again being Denny Vrandečić introducing Abstract
Wikipedia (this time in an Asia-friendly time zone).

As always, beyond this scheduled segment, there will be time to bring up
any Wikimedia-related questions or topics other call attendees are
interested in.

The link to the call is:
https://meet.google.com/dsd-rypz-xjf

Cheers,

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/009

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:46 AM Kunal Mehta  wrote:

>
> > That is indeed unfortunate! It *used* to list explicit email addresses of
> > the admins. I'll see if there's any setting that can be changed.
>
> This change was intentional, see
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150164> (presumably there's some
> mailman config to toggle it if people really wanted).
>

Ah yes, thank you.

I documented the list admins on wiki:
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia-l=revision=20447613=18927728
> >.
> Maybe consider adding it to the list description?
>

Thank you, done.

   A.
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #010 - Tue Sep 15th 13:00UTC - Abstract Wikipedia

2020-09-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

This is an update from the Wikimedia Clinics series.[1]

On Tuesday, September 15th, at 13:00 UTC[2], we will be hosting Wikimedia
Clinic #010.[3]  The scheduled segment this time would be an introduction
to Abstract Wikipedia, featuring project founder Denny Vrandečić himself!

As always, beyond this scheduled segment, there will be time to bring up
any Wikimedia-related questions or topics other call attendees are
interested in.

Hope to see you there!

   A.

[1] Wikimedia Clinics are live video calls hosted by the Community
Development team, as a way to keep in touch during the pandemic, and offer
an opportunity to ask questions, share recent work, brainstorm ideas, etc.
In addition to whatever topics attendees bring up on the spot, there is a
pre-schedule segment in each call.  Read more at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics

[2] this time, the time of day was chosen to accommodate the ESEAP region,
in particular.

[3] Google Meet[4] link: https://meet.google.com/dsd-rypz-xjf

[4] Our experiment using Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet resulted in a clear
conclusion that it is not a suitable platform for Wikimedia Clinic calls,
as it cannot reliable handle more than about 10 people, as we learned the
hard way at Clinic #009.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:50 PM Dan Szymborski 
wrote:

> As long as people are going to continue to talk about me and imply that I'm
> actually *harassing* people, then I feel I have a right to defend myself.
>

Nobody ever denied you that right.

I brought up that the UCoC standard is a reasonable person standard, not a
> "most offended person" standard and this was never addressed. Instead, I
> was demeaned by being placed on a special moderation protocol. Asaf Bartov
> threatened me that if I continued to defend myself -- even as people
> continued to discuss me -- that *I'm* hijacking the thread.


What I actually wrote to you, and I quote, was:

"I also must insist that you not hijack this thread, which is for
discussing the draft UCoC.  If you see value in bringing up your concerns
on those other matters on this list, please do so on separate threads.
Since you have expressed the opinion that this UCoC draft is illegitimate,
I suggest there is really no reason for you to post further on this thread,
leaving it for those who *would* like to discuss it."

I then did indeed threaten that *if you continue to disrupt the UCoC
thread*, your messages won't be let through. As you can see, your latest
letter, since it was no longer disrupting the UCoC thread, *was* let
through.

I asked Asaf if Koerner was given a similar warning for a very long, smug,
> patronizing screed about me as on-topic. Bartov reiterated that nobody else
> was given any warning about off-topic communication. Only *I* am not
> allowed to talk about *my* apparent offense.
>

Since now you quote a question you asked privately, I will quote the answer
I gave you:


"No, I did not warn Ms. Koerner about thread hijacking, because the very
problem with thread hijacking is that once the change of topic is made,
people legitimately want to respond. I have not observed Ms. Koerner
*initiating* a thread hijack.

I do encourage you to continue contributing on the list, including in
criticizing whatever flaws you find in the Foundation's actions.  I
certainly find such flaws myself.

But again, as a professional, perhaps you can be less ornery and more
measured in expressing the *substance* of your concerns. It would at the
very least be no less effective, and perhaps more so."


   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
No, it is not "forbidden words" that are the problem, and we have no
intention of maintaining a list.

We expect list subscribers to maintain civil discourse, which does include
avoiding vulgarity, and expressing oneself with respect to both one's
interlocutors (or addressees of criticism) and the broader audience.

Happily, this is something more than 99 percent of subscribers manage to do
without effort.

As I have repeatedly clarified, respectful discourse absolutely does not
preclude criticism. Indeed, it is liable to make the criticism more likely
to be heard.

   A.

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, 12:26 Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Is there somewhere we can refer to the list of offensive and unacceptable
> expressions, and how they are determined?
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Anders Wennersten
> Sent: 11 September 2020 10:33
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review
>
> There are many of us on this list who have given the feedback we find
> that expression offensive and unacceptable.
>
> Do not forget the readers of this list comes from may different cultures
> and if you and the people close to you find it "acceptable" it is not a
> valid judgment for all, and why do you want us to leave this list just
> so you can use a language like that. (I certainly would if that was
> accepted as a norm)
>
> The language on this list is English, it means we non-native have to
> adjust our entries to a unfamiliar language. It mean we have to limit
> our means of expression (we will not be experts on nuances).  You who
> are native English speaker have all the advantages, would it then be too
> hard for you to adjust you language to what is acceptable to us others?
>
> Anders
>
>
> Den 2020-09-11 kl. 09:31, skrev Benjamin Ikuta:
> >
> > Please, enlighten me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:39 PM, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
> >
> >> Am Fr., 11. Sept. 2020 um 08:07 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Ikuta
> >> :
> >>> Is there some context that makes this much worse than it seems, or do I
> have a deeply flawed understanding of civility?
> >> Well, are you open to consider the possibility that the latter might
> >> theoretically be the case, at least partially?
> >> Kind regards
> >> Ziko
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
r the WMF keep
> its
> > >>>>>>>> flatulence
> > >>>>>>>>> to itself.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde <
> > >>>>>>> reachout2is...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the
> > >> Board
> > >>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>> WMF
> > >>>>>>>>>> as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest
> > >>> improvement.
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have been following the process closely and I do not see
> > >>> anything
> > >>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>> looks like an "imposition"
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the
> > >> existing
> > >>>>>>>> policy
> > >>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>> guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected of users in
> any
> > >>>>>>>>> Wikimedia
> > >>>>>>>>>> project.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Isaac
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski, <
> > >> dszymbor...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above
> > >>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>> community approval, participating in any way is ethically
> > >>>>>> unsound.
> > >>>>>>>>> Doubly
> > >>>>>>>>>>> so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has
> > >>>>>>> arbitrarily
> > >>>>>>>>>>> denied communities the right, as manifested in the election
> of
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF
> > >> has
> > >>>>>>>> taken
> > >>>>>>>>>> over
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a
> collaborative
> > >>>>>>>> process
> > >>>>>>>>>> when
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's
> > >> called
> > >>>>>>> one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The best use of time at this point is to organize the
> > >> communities
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> use
> > >>>>>>>>>>> every means at its disposal to resist such an imposition.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley <
> > >>>>>>> pear...@wikimedia.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, everyone.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of
> > >>>>>> Conduct
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
> >,
> > >>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier
> this
> > >>>>>>> year
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 14:05 Fæ  wrote:

>
> Who are the list mods?


The current list admins are John Vandenberg, Shani Evenstein, and I.

Unfortunately, this is not made clear at
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l


That is indeed unfortunate! It *used* to list explicit email addresses of
the admins. I'll see if there's any setting that can be changed.

In line with what you say here, a track record that, say, included
> deliberately misusing administrator or checkuser tools on Wikimedia
> projects, should certainly be considered a trust problem.
>

Agreed.

   A.


> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:56, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > I would say first and foremost, good judgment. As measured by the
> person's
> > track record on-wiki and on this list.
> >
> > Preferring to err on the side of caution, people under community
> sanctions,
> > or who have themselves been moderated for on-list misconduct, need not
> > apply.
> >
> >A.
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 12:58 Peter Southwood  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Asaf,
> > > What are the criteria for eligibility as moderator for this list?
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Asaf Bartov
> > > Sent: 10 September 2020 11:07
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice
> > >
> > > Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
> > > strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
> > > coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
> > > requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
> > > underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.
> > >
> > > I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate
> and of
> > > encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think
> there
> > > is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.
> > >
> > > But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
> > > time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence,
> suspicion,
> > > whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as
> well, of
> > > course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.
> > >
> > > All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple
> of
> > > list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is
> time to
> > > recruit them.  Is anyone interested?
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
> > > >
> > > > It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> > > > someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement
> may
> > > have
> > > > been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should
> either be
> > > > undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> > > > That's a substantial conflict of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > > >
> > > > > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation,
> due to
> > > > > posts with unacceptable language.
> > > > >
> > > > > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this
> > > list,
> > > > > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
> > > > >
> > > > >Asaf (volunteer capacity)
> > > > >on behalf of Wikimedia-l list moderators
> > > > > --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
I would say first and foremost, good judgment. As measured by the person's
track record on-wiki and on this list.

Preferring to err on the side of caution, people under community sanctions,
or who have themselves been moderated for on-list misconduct, need not
apply.

   A.

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 12:58 Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Asaf,
> What are the criteria for eligibility as moderator for this list?
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Asaf Bartov
> Sent: 10 September 2020 11:07
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice
>
> Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
> strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
> coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
> requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
> underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.
>
> I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate and of
> encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think there
> is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.
>
> But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
> time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence, suspicion,
> whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as well, of
> course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.
>
> All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple of
> list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is time to
> recruit them.  Is anyone interested?
>
>A.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
> >
> > It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> > someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may
> have
> > been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
> > undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> > That's a substantial conflict of interest.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
> > > posts with unacceptable language.
> > >
> > > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this
> list,
> > > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
> > >
> > >Asaf (volunteer capacity)
> > >on behalf of Wikimedia-l list moderators
> > > --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.

I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate and of
encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think there
is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.

But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence, suspicion,
whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as well, of
course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.

All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple of
list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is time to
recruit them.  Is anyone interested?

   A.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen  wrote:

> Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
>
> It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may have
> been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
> undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> That's a substantial conflict of interest.
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
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> > posts with unacceptable language.
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[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-09 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
posts with unacceptable language.

I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this list,
so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #009 featuring Abstract Wikipedia team

2020-08-21 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear fellow Wikimedians,

A quick reminder that in a little over three hours, at 19:00 UTC, we have
Wikimedia Clinic #009, featuring Denny Vrandečić presenting about Abstract
Wikipedia.

It's a great opportunity to find out what this exciting new project is all
about, if you haven't yet.

The meeting will be hosted on free-software Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet, at
https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic009

Note you'll need to install the Jitsi app if you're on a mobile device.

See you there!

A.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #008 digest; #009 on Friday featuring Abstract Wikipedia!

2020-08-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #008. [1]

The topics discussed were:
* WMF Research (Presentation by Leila Zia (WMF))
* Wiki Studies
* Pitching ideas for development to WMF
* Harassment

I encourage those of you interested in any of the above topics to read the
digest. [1]

On Friday, August 21st, at 19:00 UTC[2], we will be hosting Wikimedia
Clinic #009.[3]  The scheduled segment this time would be an introduction
to Abstract Wikipedia, featuring project founder Denny Vrandečić himself!

As always, beyond this scheduled segment, there will be time to bring up
any Wikimedia-related questions or topics other call attendees are
interested in.

PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using the free
software Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet.  Desktop/laptop computers can connect
directly via the link[3] but if you want to connect using a mobile device
(phone or tablet) you will need to download the Jitsi app[4] first and use
that to connect via the link[3].

Cheers,

A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/008
[2] Here is a WorldTimeBuddy link to help you figure out what that means
for your time zone.
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1=100=100=2020-8-21=19-20.5
[3] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic009
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic digest #007 posted; Clinic #008 featuring Research at 18:00 UTC

2020-08-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #007. [1]

The topics discussed were:

* Statistics tools demonstrations (+Bonus demonstration of stylometric
analysis to uncover sock puppets)
* What is "Wikimedia research"
* In person events
* Wikimedia in Mainland China
* Technical feedback on Jitsi

I encourage those of you interested in any of the above topics to read the
digest. [1]

In a couple of hours, at 18:00 (6pm) UTC, we will be having Wikimedia
Clinic #008, at this link[2].  The call today would feature a short talk by
Leila Zia, director of the Research team at the Wikimedia Foundation,
offering an overview of what the team does as well as some recent research
examples, but the call will as always also welcome whatever
Wikimedia-related topics attendees want to bring on.

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(phone or tablet) you will need to download the Jitsi app[3] first and use
that to connect via the link[2].

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/007
[2] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic008
[3] https://jitsi.org/downloads/

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #006 digest posted; #007 taking place

2020-08-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #006, which was held in
Spanish.[1]  An English version of the digest is also available[2], to
allow non-Spanish speakers to benefit from the summary too.  I encourage
those of you interested in hearing some voices from our Spanish- (and
Catalan-) speaking communities to read the digest.

In a few hours, at 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, we will be having Wikimedia Clinic
#007, at this link[3].  The call today would have a demonstration by Amir
Sarabadani of a new tool for gathering statistics about media usage, but
will as always also welcome whatever Wikimedia-related topics attendees
want to bring on.

PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using Jitsi.
Desktop/laptop computers can connect directly via the link[3] but if you
want to connect using a mobile device (phone or tablet) you will need to
download the Jitsi app[4] first and use that to connect via the link[3].

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006/en
[3] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic007
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[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikimedia Clinic calls and program updates

2020-08-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

Below are the dates and times for the upcoming Wikimedia Clinic[1] calls.
But first, a few updates about the program in general:

1. Based on feedback so far, we are changing the format of the calls to be
*semi-scheduled* instead of *completely unscheduled*.  This means each call
will have one or more specific *pre-announced* topics, each topic having a
(brief!) presentation by staff followed by time for discussion or questions
and answers, *in addition* to the unstructured time for topics attendees
want to bring up spontaneously.

2. Following the Clinic call in Spanish two weeks ago, we are also planning
calls in Russian and French (details to be determined).

3. We are experimenting with using the free-software Jitsi technology for
the meetings instead of Google Meet.  Please note that one disadvantage of
the free-software solution is that to connect from a mobile device you will
need to download and install the Jitsi app and point it at meet.wmcloud.org
![2]

4. A few people have expressed confusion or consternation about the
program's name.  I have started an on-wiki section on the talk page to
discuss a possible renaming of the program. Feel free to contribute to
it.[3]

The upcoming calls (note the time zones!) and their tentatively-scheduled
topics:  (there may be some changes in the topics in the coming 2-3 days.
Check the Meta page closer to the calls to be sure.)

1. Wednesday, August 5th, 17:30 UTC.  Topic: Stats tools demonstrations

2. Monday, August 10th, 18:00 UTC.  Topic: Recent research from the
Foundation's Research team.

3. Thursday, August 20th, 19:00 UTC. Topic: TBD.

As always, see the program page on Meta for the details and call links.

Cheers,

   Asaf

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
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[3]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Mediawiki-i18n] Language Showcase, July 2020

2020-07-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
Will there be a written summary (of the technical updates, in particular)
for those who would miss or won't make time for the presentation?

   A.

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On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:34 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase,
> a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and
> its connection to Wikimedia Projects.
>
> This next installment will deal with the translatewiki website, the
> Translate extension in general, the latest technical updates in both of
> them, and some upcoming projects.
>
> This session is going to be broadcast over Zoom, and a recording will be
> published for later viewing.
>
> Please read below for the event details, including local time, joining
> links and do let us know if you have any questions.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Amir
>
> == Details ==
>
> # Event: Language Showcase #6
>
> # When: July 22, 2020 (Wednesday) at 13:00 UTC (check local time
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200722T1300 )
>
> # Where:
>
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/99585961221
>
> Meeting ID: 995 8596 1221
>
> # Agenda:
>
> The translatewiki website, the Translate extension in general, the latest
> technical updates in both of them, and some upcoming projects.
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic digest #005; call in Spanish today

2020-07-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #005 has been published[1].  For your
convenience, here is a list of the topics discussed:

* Generating tables on Wikipedia from Wikidata
* Are you active in affiliates? Why or why not?
* How to connect with local Wikimedians?
* Datasets relating to Wikimedia activities by country?
* ReplyTool

If any of this interests you, I encourage you to read the digest[1].

And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Wikimedia Clinic #006
*in Spanish*, about to take place today at 18:00 UTC, at the Google Meet
link below[2].  While the call will be in Spanish without translation into
English, the *digest* of this call will be offered in both languages.

Cheers,

   A.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/005
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic en español. jueves, 16 de junio, a las 18 hs UTC

2020-07-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Estimados y estimadas Wikimedistas,

(Les pedimos que compartan este mensaje a todas las personas que consideren
que podrían beneficiarse de esta invitación. Puede que no sea parte de los
canales más relevantes o grupos).

En estos tiempos tan complejos con la pandemia, y la posterior complejidad
que surgirá durante la post-pandemia, el contacto e interacción humana con
nuestros y nuestras compañeras de Wikimedia, aunque sea a través de una
videollamada, puede sernos útil, relajante y divertido. También nos da la
oportunidad para hacer esas preguntas que siempre quisimos realizar, pero
nunca pudimos hacerlas; o hasta explicar situaciones que pueden ser
complejas de articular por escrito.

Es así que el equipo de Desarrollo Comunitario de la Fundación Wikimedia,
ha estado experimentando con videollamadas abiertas (usando Google Meet)
para que cualquier persona activa en los proyectos Wikimedia pueda
participar, realizar consultas o recomendaciones sobre cualquier iniciativa
o problema relacionado con Wikimedia en el que se encuentren trabajando.

También es un espacio para compartir y recibir retroalimentación, aún si no
tienen ninguna pregunta o duda concreta, o si simplemente quisieran
conectarse y compartir sus experiencias con las demás personas.

Llamamos a esta iniciativa: Clínicas de Wikimedia (nos traen cualquier
“caso” que tengan en mente, y vamos a hacer lo posible por ayudarles), y se
estarán realizando varias veces al mes (alternando entre zonas horarias y
días, para que la mayor cantidad de personas puedan participar)

Cada sesión de la clínica puede durar hasta 90 minutos, y garantizamos que
participen al menos dos personas de la Fundación Wikimedia en la llamada.
Esto no quiere decir que vamos a tener todas las respuestas, pero nos
comprometemos a ayudarles a conseguirlas, aún si no es durante la llamada,
podemos hacer un seguimiento posterior a sus consultas y trataremos de
resolverlas.

Cada llamada tendrá un resumen que será editado para mayor claridad y
estará disponible para los y las voluntarias interesadas. Este resumen
contendrá también enlaces hacia herramientas o recursos que hayan sido
mencionados durante la llamada, y será compartido y archivado en Meta[0].
Aquí un ejemplo reciente [1] (en inglés).

¡Estas llamadas *no* reemplazarán ningún canal existente ni tampoco
llamadas previas que hayan sido agendadas! Todos los canales o reuniones
que utilicen o ya tengan seguirán existiendo. No se realizarán anuncios de
gran magnitud durante estas llamadas, ni tampoco queremos que se sientan
con la obligación o el estrés de participar.

Más bien, estas clínicas serán una nueva forma de comunicación directa y
apoyo, con un enfoque menos restringido o limitado que otros canales
existentes (donde sólo ciertos temas son tratados), y esperamos que sean
más accesibles para las personas que no están tan seguras sobre si su tema
o problema es apropiado para alguno de esos canales.

Ya que estas llamadas (que hasta el momento han sido en inglés) parecen ser
útiles, nos complace ahora también poder ampliarlas al español, y esperamos
que más adelante también podamos realizarlas en otros idiomas, y así dar un
mayor acceso a este recurso más allá de la barrera idiomática con el
inglés. No soy fluido en español, así que esta vez sólo participaré en la
llamada, pero será co-facilitada por Melissa y Selene; y Edna junto a
Cassie tomarán las notas (en español).

¡Les invitamos a unirse si es que este horario les funciona! Nuestra
primera llamada en español está agendada para el jueves, 16 de junio, a las
18 hs (6pm) UTC (15 hs - 3pm Buenos Aires, 20 hs - 8pm Madrid, etc.), en
este link[2] de Google Meet.

Les recordamos que no hay ninguna agenda fija, ni tampoco se requiere
preparación previa para esta llamada. Siéntanse libres de participar y
acompañarnos con cualquier tema relacionado a Wikimedia que tengan en
mente, o simplemente para pasar el rato.

¡Cualquier comentario o duda es bienvenida!

Saludos,

Asaf

Esta vez con el apoyo de Melissa, Selene, Edna y Cassie

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/004

[2] https://meet.google.com/mjv-dxvk-jjb

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[Wikimedia-l] Digest of Wikimedia Clinic #004; Wikimedia Clinic #005 happening in a couple of hours

2020-07-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #004 has been published[1].  For your
convenience, here is a list of the topic titles discussed:

* Community friction in outreach on Turkish Wikipedia
* Announcement about Celtic Knot 2020 Conference (Virtual)
* Consultations between the WMF and the meta Community
* Translation of the {{Cite Q|...}} from English to Spanish?
* International conflict observatory
* Can you recall a great talk or presentation outside Wikimedia that really
inspired your Wikimedia work?

If any of this interests you, I encourage you to read the digest[1].

And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Clinic #005, about to
take place at 17:30 UTC (in under three hours as of this posting), at the
Google Meet link below[2].

Also, we have just scheduled an experiment-within-an-experiment, a
Wikimedia Clinic *en espanol*, for July 16th at 18:00 UTC.  That call will
take place mostly in Spanish.  Everyone is welcome.  See the main meta
page[0] for the link.

Cheers,

   A.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/004
[2] https://meet.google.com/eqo-qokn-mwj

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[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice: Gerard Meijssen

2020-06-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear list subscribers,

In my volunteer capacity as list-admin, I write to let you know that
subscriber Gerard Meijssen has been placed on indefinite moderation after
making toxic comments to another subscriber, and failing to apologize for
them after it was pointed out to him.  Gerard had been warned before about
his aggressive conduct on this mailing list.

As most of you know, being placed in moderation still allows moderated
people to contribute to the list, but their posts don't go straight to all
subscribers, but wait for an admin to review and release them, or reject
them.  They are a compromise between wanting to be inclusive of people who
are good faith volunteers but who sometimes find it difficult to maintain
civil discourse on the one hand, and protecting the list's other
subscribers from unacceptable discourse on the other hand.

However, Gerard chose to unsubscribe himself from the list.  We want to be
clear that the moderation remains in force, should he choose to
re-subscribe in the future.

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[Wikimedia-l] Digest of Wikimedia Clinic #003; Wikimedia Clinic #004 happening in an hour

2020-06-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #003 has been published[1].

And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Clinic #004, about to
take place at 17:30 UTC (in under an hour as of this posting), at the
Google Meet link below[2].

Cheers,

   A.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/003
[2] https://meet.google.com/wcu-arcq-jxg

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Sudan User Group

2020-06-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent news!  Welcome, Wikimedia Community User Group Sudan!

(I hope at least their designated contacts have subscribed to this mailing
list.)

   A.

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On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
>
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedia Sudan User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to support Sudanese living in Sudan and in the diaspora working to
> help bridge the content gaps about Sudan (and broadly Africa) on the web
> through the largest online Encyclopedia, Wikipedia and its sister projects
> as well as other open projects that allow sharing and accessibility of free
> knowledge.
>
>
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan
>
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (she/her)
>
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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[Wikimedia-l] Digest of Wikimedia Clinic #002; updates on schedule; Wikimedia clinic in Spanish!

2020-06-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

We have now published the digest of Wikimedia Clinic #002[1]. If you missed
previous announcements about the Wikimedia Clinic idea, please see its page
on Meta[2].

As announced, it contains a compact summary of the topics discussed,
augmented by links and some follow-up information that was not available
during the call.  I invite you to skim the topic list and see if there's
something of interest for you.

Upcoming Wikimedia Clinic calls are:

Call #004 - Sunday(!), June 28th, 17:30 UTC [3]
Call #005 - Wednesday, July 1st, 17:30 UTC [4]

Also, we are experimenting with a Wikimedia Clinic in Spanish!  It is still
being scheduled, and I will keep you posted as soon as the date and time
are known.  That call will be held primarily in Spanish (everyone is
welcome, of course), and will welcome discussions in Spanish.

Cheers,

Asaf

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/002
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Emergency moderation ended

2020-06-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Just a handful of further responses on the racism thread.

Specifically in case anyone wonders, no messages regarding the branding
project were suppressed.

   A.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 00:54 Benjamin Ikuta  wrote:

>
>
> For the sake of transparency, how many messages were blocked?
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > We have ended the emergency moderation of the mailing list
> >
> > We did our best to process the moderation queue at least several times a
> > day, but are happy to return the list to regular operation.
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Emergency moderation ended

2020-06-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

We have ended the emergency moderation of the mailing list

We did our best to process the moderation queue at least several times a
day, but are happy to return the list to regular operation.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #003 today at 08:00 UTC

2020-06-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

A quick reminder that we will be having another Wikimedia Clinic open call
today, in about three hours, at 08:00 UTC.

The Wikimedia Clinics calls are open video calls (using Google Meet) where
any active Wikimedian is welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working
on.You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even
if you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang
out, or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.

It's relaxed and informal. The calls are a Friendly space
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy>. Attendees are
expected to:

   - Listen with patience and respect.
   - Share your experience, but remember others' contexts are very diverse,
   and may not match yours.
   - Be of service.

The Google Meet link is https://meet.google.com/hmb-hfjk-jtk

NOTE: I know the Branding project is still a topic of interest and debate
for many of you.  While you are welcome to bring it up during a clinic and
share thoughts with each other, I'm afraid this upcoming call won't have
new information from WMF's side beyond the last communication from the
Board, and those interested in further engagement on the topic would be
able to get more answers on the same general channels on Meta and the
Wikimedia-l mailing list they have already been using.  Again, the topic is
not taboo on the Wikimedia Clinic, but I do want to set expectations for
people who may only attend hoping to hear new information about it.

Cheers,

   A.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #001 digest and future calls

2020-06-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

This is an update on the Wikimedia Clinics[1] pilot:

On June 15th we hosted the first Wikimedia Clinic call. It was well
attended (~25 volunteers, not counting WMF staff), with a good mix of
experience levels and countries of origin. As promised, we publish a
*digest* of the call[1], edited for clarity and brevity, and aiming for
maximal value to readers whether or not they attended the call, with links
and information added after the call to complement the information given
during it.

To accommodate different time zones, we are about to host the second
Wikimedia Clinic in a few hours, June 17th at 8:00am UTC.  The meeting link
is [3].

We have also added three more Wikimedia Clinic time slots, which you can
always see in the Clinics page on Meta[1], where the meeting links are
given too.  I also paste the times here for your convenience:

Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC (today, soon!)
Tuesday, June 23rd, 08:00am UTC
Sunday, June 28th, 17:30 UTC
Wednesday, July 1st, 17:30 UTC

We at the Community Development team are already finding this a useful
model, and have already drawn some valuable feedback that will translate
into future work from us.  One example is a *movement-facing* Introduction
to the Wikimedia Foundation module (see the digest[2]).

Cheers,

A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/001
[3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due

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[Wikimedia-l] IMPORTANT: Entire list on moderation and notes on conduct

2020-06-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedia-l subscribers.

I write to you in my volunteer capacity of list-admin, to inform you that
the entire Wikimedia-l mailing list is now under moderation, meaning all
posts will have to be manually reviewed and approved by one of the admins.

Here's why:

Comments on the thread titled (and seeking to remove) "Promotion of
scientific racism in Wikipedia articles" have upset a large number of
people, quite a few of whom wrote to the list-admins requesting that the
thread be shut down.

Reviewing the thread, we see some comments that AT BEST (assuming good
faith) are ignorant, insensitive, and tone-deaf, especially in the current
moment.  As always when ASSUMING good faith, the assumption may not be
correct, and some of the comments may be deliberate trolling, i.e.
calculated to upset people.

Be that as it may, people are indeed upset, and the prospects of
constructive conversation about Fae's original topic -- which was
essentially an instance of a well-known systemic problem of Wikipedia, viz.
its susceptibility to relying on outdated or debunked sources, and the
difficulty to dislodge some such sources -- seem very poor.

Shutting down a single thread is not technically possible on a plain
mailing list, so we have moderated the entire list as a stopgap measure.

Our goal is to restore unmoderated list access AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
Toward that end, we ask the following:


1. Make no more responses AT ALL on that thread started by Fae.

2. Recognize that the list is for coordination and discussion of matters
related to our work as Wikimedians in service of the Wikimedia mission.  It
is *not* the appropriate venue to debate content issues, including the
concept of "race", various racial theories, etc.

3. If you would like to pursue work around this systemic issue, I encourage
you to create an on-wiki task force or WikiProject, where you would be able
to clarify methodological questions and plan the on-wiki work.  If you
start such a project, announcing it publicly on this list to let people
know it exists would be permitted.

4. Recognize that whether or not you are personally feeling anything
special is going on, *a lot* of people around the world are undergoing a
trying time right now -- over and beyond the already-trying pandemic
conditions -- specifically involving the diverse phenomena of racism and
bigotry.  People experience it in many different ways, but quite a few are
hurting, quite a few are raging, quite a few are frustrated and upset, etc.

Whatever your opinions about these complex and charged issues, it would be
an act of empathetic kindness and collegiality to your fellow Wikimedians
who *are* experiencing an exceptionally trying time if you *avoid* choosing
this time to air out those opinions.


We shall do our best to monitor the moderation queue at closer intervals,
to support regular list activity on all other topics.  People who would not
heed our requests above will remain on moderation after the entire list is
unmoderated. (We will announce when that happens.)

Your list moderators.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Last reminder: this is happening in one hour (at 17:30 UTC).  The link for
today's call is this: https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
Concise and depersonalized notes will be publicly shared after the call.

Cheers,

   A.

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On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:28 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> In these complex times of pandemic, and the coming complex times of
> post-pandemic, live human contact with fellow Wikimedians, even mediated
> through a video call, can be helpful, relaxing, and fun.  It can also offer
> opportunities to ask questions you have been meaning to ask but never got
> around to, or to explain complex situations that may be hard to articulate
> in writing.
>
> To better support members of the community during this time, the Community
> Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in trying an
> experiment: scheduling open video calls (using Google Meet) where any
> active Wikimedian would be welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
> advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working on.
>
> You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even
> if you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang
> out, or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.
>
> We are thinking of calling these calls Wikimedia Clinics, and would host
> them once a week (in alternating time zones, to accommodate as many people
> as possible).
>
> Each clinic session:
>
> * would be 70-120 minutes in length depending on topics presented and
> volume of conversation
> * would have at least two Wikimedia Foundation staff members guaranteed to
> be present. They are not guaranteed to have the answers you need, but they
> are committed to helping you get them, even if not during the call itself,
> but as later follow-up.
> * would be summarized in an in-depth *digest* of the call that would be
> edited for clarity and available to all volunteers interested. These notes
> would link to any tools and resources mentioned on the call and will be
> shared on this mailing list and archived on Meta[0].
>
> These calls are *not* replacing any existing channels or
> regularly-scheduled calls!  Every channel or call you are already using
> continues to exist.  No important announcements will be made on these
> calls, and no one should feel stressed or obligated to attend them.
>
> Rather, they are a new form of live-communication open support calls, less
> narrow in focus than some of the existing channels (where only specific
> topics are expected), and, we hope, more approachable and welcoming for
> people not sure whether their question or dilemma is appropriate for one of
> the other channels.
>
> If these calls are found useful, we'll try to offer them in some other
> languages, to increase access to those not comfortable speaking English.
>
> So, let's give this a try!  The first two calls are scheduled for:
>
> Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[1].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[2].
>
> and
>
> Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[3].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[4].
>
> Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.
> Feel free to join us with anything Wikimedia-related that's on your mind,
> or just to hang out.
>
> Feedback and questions welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Asaf
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
> [1] https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
> [2]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f
> [3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due
> [4]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26539200=8-10=show=500d54dd-96c7-1934-0910-afe98a3440a5
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Reminder: the Wikimedia Clinic calls experiment is about to begin. The
first calls are scheduled for:

   - Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link
   <https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky>. Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event
   for timezone convenience
   
<https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f>
   .
   - Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link
   <https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due>. Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event
   for timezone convenience
   
<https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26539200=8-10=show=500d54dd-96c7-1934-0910-afe98a3440a5>
   .

Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.  Feel
free to join us with anything *Wikimedia-related* you'd like to ask, or get
feedback on, or just to hang out.
   A.

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On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:28 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> In these complex times of pandemic, and the coming complex times of
> post-pandemic, live human contact with fellow Wikimedians, even mediated
> through a video call, can be helpful, relaxing, and fun.  It can also offer
> opportunities to ask questions you have been meaning to ask but never got
> around to, or to explain complex situations that may be hard to articulate
> in writing.
>
> To better support members of the community during this time, the Community
> Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in trying an
> experiment: scheduling open video calls (using Google Meet) where any
> active Wikimedian would be welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
> advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working on.
>
> You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even
> if you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang
> out, or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.
>
> We are thinking of calling these calls Wikimedia Clinics, and would host
> them once a week (in alternating time zones, to accommodate as many people
> as possible).
>
> Each clinic session:
>
> * would be 70-120 minutes in length depending on topics presented and
> volume of conversation
> * would have at least two Wikimedia Foundation staff members guaranteed to
> be present. They are not guaranteed to have the answers you need, but they
> are committed to helping you get them, even if not during the call itself,
> but as later follow-up.
> * would be summarized in an in-depth *digest* of the call that would be
> edited for clarity and available to all volunteers interested. These notes
> would link to any tools and resources mentioned on the call and will be
> shared on this mailing list and archived on Meta[0].
>
> These calls are *not* replacing any existing channels or
> regularly-scheduled calls!  Every channel or call you are already using
> continues to exist.  No important announcements will be made on these
> calls, and no one should feel stressed or obligated to attend them.
>
> Rather, they are a new form of live-communication open support calls, less
> narrow in focus than some of the existing channels (where only specific
> topics are expected), and, we hope, more approachable and welcoming for
> people not sure whether their question or dilemma is appropriate for one of
> the other channels.
>
> If these calls are found useful, we'll try to offer them in some other
> languages, to increase access to those not comfortable speaking English.
>
> So, let's give this a try!  The first two calls are scheduled for:
>
> Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[1].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[2].
>
> and
>
> Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[3].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[4].
>
> Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.
> Feel free to join us with anything Wikimedia-related that's on your mind,
> or just to hang out.
>
> Feedback and questions welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Asaf
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
> [1] https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
> [2]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f
> [3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due
> [4]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/even

[Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

In these complex times of pandemic, and the coming complex times of
post-pandemic, live human contact with fellow Wikimedians, even mediated
through a video call, can be helpful, relaxing, and fun.  It can also offer
opportunities to ask questions you have been meaning to ask but never got
around to, or to explain complex situations that may be hard to articulate
in writing.

To better support members of the community during this time, the Community
Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in trying an
experiment: scheduling open video calls (using Google Meet) where any
active Wikimedian would be welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working on.

You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even if
you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang out,
or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.

We are thinking of calling these calls Wikimedia Clinics, and would host
them once a week (in alternating time zones, to accommodate as many people
as possible).

Each clinic session:

* would be 70-120 minutes in length depending on topics presented and
volume of conversation
* would have at least two Wikimedia Foundation staff members guaranteed to
be present. They are not guaranteed to have the answers you need, but they
are committed to helping you get them, even if not during the call itself,
but as later follow-up.
* would be summarized in an in-depth *digest* of the call that would be
edited for clarity and available to all volunteers interested. These notes
would link to any tools and resources mentioned on the call and will be
shared on this mailing list and archived on Meta[0].

These calls are *not* replacing any existing channels or
regularly-scheduled calls!  Every channel or call you are already using
continues to exist.  No important announcements will be made on these
calls, and no one should feel stressed or obligated to attend them.

Rather, they are a new form of live-communication open support calls, less
narrow in focus than some of the existing channels (where only specific
topics are expected), and, we hope, more approachable and welcoming for
people not sure whether their question or dilemma is appropriate for one of
the other channels.

If these calls are found useful, we'll try to offer them in some other
languages, to increase access to those not comfortable speaking English.

So, let's give this a try!  The first two calls are scheduled for:

Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[1].
Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[2].

and

Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[3].
Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[4].

Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.  Feel
free to join us with anything Wikimedia-related that's on your mind, or
just to hang out.

Feedback and questions welcome.

Cheers,

Asaf

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
[2]
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f
[3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due
[4]
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26539200=8-10=show=500d54dd-96c7-1934-0910-afe98a3440a5


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiBlind User Group

2020-05-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations to the new user group!  It's great to have a clear
destination to refer people to, on matters of vision-impaired use of and
contribution to the Wikimedia projects.

(I think it would be helpful, for this and other recent groups, to ensure
that the designated contacts for the group are clearly identified on the
group's Meta page.  People shouldn't have to guess how to make contact with
the group, and shouldn't just assume the first few names in the members
list are the designated contacts.)

Cheers,

   A.

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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:51 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
>
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] WikiBlind User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to:
> WikiBlind User Group, is a new international online group in which our
> members, blind, low vision and sighted, can connect with each, and discover
> the options we most enjoy for participating in the free and open knowledge
> movement.
>
>
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_WikiBlind_User_Group
>
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBlind_User_Group
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
>
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mario Gómez  wrote:

> As far as I know, criticism of political lobbying by the WMF is generally
> frowned upon here. Including aspersion casting against critics.
>

Um, what?  As a (volunteer) list administrator of this mailing list, and
indeed a (paid) Foundation staff member, I can assure you that you are
welcome to criticize any aspect of the Foundation's work here, within usual
bounds of civility (no ad hominem attacks, obscenities, etc.).

While I wish we had substantive discussions here more often than we do, it
is still an appropriate venue for discussions between the Foundation and
the communities.  Unlike more popular alternatives, this mailing list is
public, tolerant of pseudonyms, and has an immutable public archive.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual activity report of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2020-02-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Very impressive, thank you!

   A.

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On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 1:24 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are pleased to share with you  our annual activity report for the year
> 2019.
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians/Reports/Annual_Activities/2019
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fresh data on the gender gap in content

2020-02-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 6:14 PM Robert Fernandez 
wrote:

> How do you get negative one biographies?
>
> 149 Mongolian 2 -1 -50.00
> 148 Punjabi 2 -1
>

The lines you quote were from the "diff" section, i.e. there were two
articles about men more than the previous period, and one less about
women.  (This can mean an article about a woman was deleted, or it could
mean three articles about women were created but four were deleted, etc.)

   A.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fresh data on the gender gap in content

2020-02-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

Back in June 2016, on this thread, I had published some data on the *content
gender gap* in Wikipedia biographies (i.e. how many articles are about men
versus how many are about women). I intended to keep generating snapshots
of these stats, to track progress against the gap, but then realized the
excellent WHGI project[1] is already collecting and preserving snapshots of
the data, so I did not do so myself.

However, being curious about the numbers for a particular community, I
realized WHGI does not provide an easy way to compare snapshots across
time.  The data is all there[2], but a convenient visualization and
comparison tool between two arbitrary snapshots is not available yet.  So
while I did not build such a tool myself, I did update my little page with
fresh numbers, *plus a comparison to the June 2016 *numbers.

You may find the data interesting:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon/Content_gap#Data_as_of_February_2020
(note that the table is sortable by clicking the column heads)

While it is difficult to ascribe the change to specific programs, overall
there can be little doubt that the increased attention to the content
gender gap, alongside specific programs and groups such as Women in Red,
Art+Feminism, WikiMujeres, WikiDonne, and even certain runs of
#100wikidays, have all contributed to narrowing the gap on most Wikipedias.

Special congratulations to the Punjabi, Malayalam, and Odia Wikipedias,
which have all narrowed the gap by more than 10 points!  Of the larger
wikis, great progress was made by the Vietnamese and Armenian Wikipedias.

As before, I'll note:

1. Your efforts, particularly on small-to-medium wikis, can really make a
dent in these numbers!

2. I encourage you to share these numbers with your communities.  Perhaps
you'd like to overtake the wiki just above yours? :)

Cheers,

   A.

[1] https://whgi.wmflabs.org/gender-by-language.html
[2] https://whgi.wmflabs.org/snapshot_data/

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:14 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hullo everyone.
>
> I was asked by a volunteer for help getting stats on the gender gap in
> content on a certain Wikipedia, and came up with simple Wikidata Query
> Service[1] queries that pulled the total number of articles on a given
> Wikipedia about men and about women, to calculate *the proportion of
> articles about women out of all articles about humans*.
>
> Then I was curious about how that wiki compared to other wikis, so I ran
> the queries on a bunch of languages, and gathered the results into a table,
> here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon/Content_gap
>
> (please see the *caveat* there.)
>
> I don't have time to fully write-up everything I find interesting in those
> results, but I will quickly point out the following:
>
> 1. The Nepali statistic is simply astonishing! There must be a story
> there.  I'm keen on learning more about this, if anyone can shed light.
>
> 2. Evidently, ~13%-17% seems like a robust average of the proportion of
> articles about women among all biographies.
>
> 3. among the top 10 largest wikis, Japanese is the least imbalanced.  Good
> job, Japanese Wikipedians!  I wonder if you have a good sense of what
> drives this relatively better balance. (my instinctive guess is pop culture
> coverage.)
>
> 4. among the top 10 largest wikis, Russian is the most imbalanced.
>
> 5. I intend to re-generate these stats every two months or so, to
> eventually have some sense of trends and changes.
>
> 6. Your efforts, particularly on small-to-medium wikis, can really make a
> dent in these numbers!  For example, it seems I am personally
> responsible[2] for almost 1% of the coverage of women on Hebrew Wikipedia!
> :)
>
> 7. I encourage you to share these numbers with your communities.  Perhaps
> you'd like to overtake the wiki just above yours? :)
>
> 8. I'm happy to add additional languages to the table, by request.  Or you
> can do it yourself, too. :)
>
>A.
>
> [1] https://query.wikidata.org/
> [2] Yay #100wikidays :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/100wikidays
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

2019-10-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Ziko: Yes, it is about the major Russian city.  And one of its listed
contacts is the longstanding president of Wikimedia Russia itself.

Philip: this is not an example of a large country being "split up", since
Wikimedia Russia is still around, and was not broken up.  It is also not
the first user group operating within Russia, nor even the first group with
a geographic remit.[1]

   A.

[1] e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don_Wikimedians_User_Group

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:34 PM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello Philip,
>
> I was asking the same question - isn't there already a Wikimedia Rossiya -
> but I guess this is the User Group of Saint Petersburg in Florida (USA),
> not Sankt Peterburg in Russia.
> Oh wait... this IS about the city in Russia!
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Philip Kopetzky <
> philip.kopet...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Kirill,
> >
> > so it seems like geographically large countries are being split up into
> > different user groups - do you think that this is a viable model for the
> > future or just happened because of certain circumstances within the
> Russian
> > community? Would your template allow a User Group from Rome, Paris,
> Munich
> > or Sydney for example?
> >
> > Best,
> > Philip
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:20, Kirill Lokshin 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> > > [1] the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group [2] as a Wikimedia
> > User
> > > Group. The group aims to unite Wikimedians living in St. Petersburg, to
> > > support the development of content on topics related to St. Petersburg
> > > across different Wikimedia projects, to promote the Wikimedia projects
> > and
> > > movement in St. Petersburg, and to build partnerships between the
> > Wikimedia
> > > community and cultural, scientific, educational, and media institutions
> > in
> > > St. Petersburg.
> > >
> > > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the extension of funding by the Basque Government

2019-09-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Fantastic news, Galder!  Kudos to everyone involved!

   A.

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> Dear wikimedians,
> Three years have gone since we started with the Basque Wikimedians User
> Group Education Program, funded by the Basque Government. After two years
> and a half of great enhancing of Basque Wikipedia (more than 2.500 students
> adding more than 1.5 million words on fundamental topics) the Basque
> Government has announce us today the extension of the funding for four more
> years.
>
> In this four years we will try to strengthen our Educaton Program but also
> open to new areas in order to make our knowledge equity vision possible. By
> 2024 we will have taken sure steps towards creating a free knowledge
> ecosystem centered at Wikimedia.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Colombia

2019-07-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations!

  A.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:02 PM Kirill Lokshin 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> has approved the recognition of Wikimedia Colombia [1] as a Wikimedia
> chapter.
>
> Over the past five years, Wikimedia Colombia has successfully planned and
> executed a significant portfolio of innovative and effective programs,
> attracting new contributors, forming partnerships with local institutions,
> promoting the Wikimedia movement throughout the Republic of Colombia, and
> demonstrating a substantial record of programmatic impact.
>
> It is our hope that recognition as a Wikimedia chapter will empower the
> Wikimedia Colombia community to continue fostering the Wikimedia movement
> in Colombia and enable them to more effectively engage with government
> entities and other partners.  We additionally hope that Wikimedia Colombia
> will prove to be a source of inspiration and support for emerging Wikimedia
> communities in the surrounding geographic areas, furthering affiliate
> development across northern South America and Central America.
>
> I want to thank everyone who has been involved with setting up the new
> chapter, and recognize their commitment and patience over the past two
> years as we've worked through the chapter recognition process.  Please join
> me in congratulating the entire Wikimedia Colombia team for their
> accomplishment!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
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>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Colombia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Wikimedia Community User Group Uganda 2018/2019 Report

2019-07-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations, Erina and WCUG Uganda, on a clear and informative report!

One area to consider improving would be on-wiki contributions by the core
user group volunteers.

Cheers,

A.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:14 PM Erina Mukuta  wrote:

>
> *To whom it may concern*
> below is the link to the over due annual report for the mentioned usergroup
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2018-2019_Annual_Report
>
> Kind regards
> --
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> Tel:  *+256774424843*
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> *https://wikiuganda.wordpress.com/ <https://wikiuganda.wordpress.com/>*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright issues

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[Wikimedia-l] New tutorial video on submitting media via OTRS + request for help

2019-06-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello.

We have released a comprehensive tutorial video -- as one medium-length
video and as several shorter clips -- aimed at helping non-Wikimedians
submit media to Wikimedia Commons via OTRS.

This video is the result of a pilot project within the framework of
the Community
Capacity Development <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CCD>[1] program at
the Wikimedia Foundation. It was led by Asaf Bartov
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)>[2], from the Community
Development team, with the active involvement of an advisory committee made
up of experienced OTRS and Commons volunteers. The script development and
video production were done by contractor Victor Grigas
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:VGrigas_(WMF)>[3], and reviewed by
the advisory committee.

The video is intended to be useful to OTRS agents, Commons volunteers, and
Wikipedia volunteers in various languages, for helping *non-Wikimedians*
submit media via OTRS. It is hoped that being able to refer people to the
video, in whole or in part (to the introduction plus a specific scenario,
perhaps), would save at least some of the *very common* back-and-forth
correspondence many OTRS agents have to conduct with non-Wikimedian
contributors struggling to understand copyright and Commons norms.

The video is designed to be easy to translate and localize, with no speech,
and a lot of interstitials, which should facilitate preparing localized
versions of the video(s).

The page describing the video, including links to the various versions, the
script, and even B-roll material, is here:


*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Video_tutorial_on_how_to_submit_media_to_Wikimedia_Commons_using_OTRS
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Video_tutorial_on_how_to_submit_media_to_Wikimedia_Commons_using_OTRS>*

I request your help in three ways:

1. Spread the news in your communities, and ensure your fellow volunteers
are aware of the availability of this resource.

2. Translate the video (the page itself is much less important) into your
language, if not English.

3. Provide feedback on the video, or on your use of it, ideally on-wiki, in
the talk page of the page linked above.

Thanks,

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:VGrigas_(WMF)

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[Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Speaking as a (very) longtime member of this mailing list, and one who is
carefully observing it for a few years now as a volunteer list
co-administrator:

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> I, like many others, wish to see this list become a crucible of good
> suggestions, healthy and critical debate about ideas and as a sound
> mechanism for oversight and account . A huge amount of staff time and
> movement resources is taken up by the consumption of its content. And yet
> it remains the greatest shame that much of the best most worthwhile
> constructive discussions have moved to platforms like Facebook because this
> list is viewed as hosting such an unhealthy atmosphere when emails are
> written with such overt passive aggression.
>
> I call it out because if we want people to participate on this list, the
> unhealthy way in which this list gets treated by some of its most active
> participants needs to be dealt with. Otherwise valid points will not get
> acknowledged or answered.
>

I am not sure the causality here runs in the direction you describe.  It's
true that this list had some aggressive, even vulgar participants in the
past, and that some senior staff members, as well as board members, have
left the list in protest.  Personally, I think that was a mistake on their
part: to improve the list atmosphere, you model good behavior yourself, and
you call upon the rest of the list -- the "silent majority" -- to call out
bad behavior and enforce some participation standards (as, indeed, I and my
co-moderators have been doing since we took over).

By senior people's departing this list, and no longer requiring staff to be
on this list, a strong signal was sent that this is not a venue crucial to
listen to, and that, coupled with the decreasing frequency of WMF responses
to legitimate volunteer inquiries and suggestions, had a *powerful*
chilling effect on the willingness of most volunteers to engage here.
Especially when, as you say, they were able to get better engagement on
Facebook and other channels, despite the serious shortcomings of
accountability on those channels (immutable archiving, searchability,
access to anonymous volunteers, etc.)

Yes, this list has also seen some pseudonymous critics whose questions may
have been inconvenient or troublesome to address.  Yet I think the
accountable thing to do would have been to respond, however briefly, to
prevent the sealioning and sanctimonious posts that filled the list -- and,
I am sure, greatly annoyed and demotivated many subscribers.  Even a
response stating WMF chooses not to respond to a certain question, or not
to dig up certain data, would have been better than the stony silence that
has become the all-too-common stance for WMF on this list.

As you know, I also work for WMF (though I am writing this in my volunteer
capacity, and out of my care for the well-being of this list).  While I
have never shied away from responding on this list, I have on occasion been
scolded (internally) for attempting to answer volunteer queries to the best
of my knowledge, for "outstepping my remit" or interfering in someone
else's remit.  I have taken this to heart, and accordingly no longer try to
respond to queries such as Fae's (which in this case I find a perfectly
reasonable question, meriting an answer).  Several past attempts by me to
ping appropriate senior staff on questions on this list (or on talk pages)
have also met with rebuke, so I have ceased those as well.

For these reasons I do not accept this wholesale blaming of this list's
subscribers on the difficulty having meaningful conversations here:

But if we want to see staff members more actively
> participating here then those long standing individuals need to really
> thing about the tone in which they engage here, particularly those who do
> so most often. If that does not change, this list will continue to languish
> and those few staff members who continue to engage here will slowly
> disappear. This now increasingly perennial topic keeps coming up and my
> fear is that it will on go away through the increasing abandonment this
> list faces.
>

It is WMF that is not behaving collaboratively here.  And it is within
WMF's power to change it.  C-levels, the ED, and other managers at WMF
could all decide to participate more actively in this list; to respond to
questions or delegate the answering to their subordinates, who are awaiting
their cue; and indeed, they could themselves make more use of this list as
a sounding board, a consultation room, and a reserve of experience and
diverse context.  They can be the change they (and you, and me) would like
to see.

Perhaps this e-mail could convince some of them.  And if not my words, then
perhaps those of some of the other list subscribers.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:10 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a Commoner, I can tell we certainly are, James, please apply here:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators
>
> Even if your sysop actions are rather occasional or seasonal, or focused on
> a certain topic, like mine, all help is very much welcomed there.
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That has not been my experience.  I recently wanted to help reduce the
load, in my volunteer capacity, by becoming a Commons admin focused on
undeletion requests (which ties in with my volunteer work as an OTRS agent,
and would save me and Admins the time of filing and handling a COM:UDR
request).  Despite my thousands of contributions to Commons, my track
record in the movement, and my understanding of copyright, a small majority
opposed. Some of them specifically said they don't want admins focused on a
certain topic, and others wanted to see me active in deletion discussions
(specifically) before they would consider accepting my help.  This does
suggest there is a certain reluctance to give the admin bit even to very
low-risk volunteers like me.

I certainly did not feel my help was welcomed.

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiNusantara

2019-05-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you for sharing this!  Very glad to see a national wikiconference in
Indonesia!

  A.

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:25 AM Biyanto Rebin 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> We just held our first national conference in Indonesia with 82
> participants for the closed session and 100 selected participants for the
> open session.[1] Our theme for the conference was "a window of
> collaboration".
>
> Please visit our blog:
>
> https://wikimedia.or.id/2019/05/08/wikinusantara-the-first-nationwide-conference-for-the-indonesian-wikimedia-community-successfully-took-place/
>
> And full documentation is in here:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiNusantara_2019
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiNusantara_2019
>
> --
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> Surel: biyanto.re...@wikimedia.or.id
> -
> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time

2019-04-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
This is not India-specific, and may be of interest to other communities
struggling with such a question.

   A.

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From: Ravishankar 
Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:05 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time
To: wikimediaindia-l 


Hi,

Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time after a gap of almost 5 years.

After 2013, we hit a policy deadlock where we couldn't agree on how to
elect a new sysop, what are the qualities of an ideal sysop, etc.,

Even after repeated attempts, we could not solve this as the fear of being
not able to easily desysop someone made us look for higher and higher bars
for a perfect admin.

So, how did we solve?

Recently, MediaWiki allows someone to get sysop access for limited periods
of time like 1 month, 3 months, etc., This is how Stewards grants adminship
in many small wikis.

We felt when there is the possibility of granting adminships for trial
periods and renew them thereafter, we don't need to keep the bar for
adminship very high.

We also proposed to start a Wiki Admin School where others can mentor the
new admins.

So, after a month long discussion and community consensus, we conducted our
sysop elections and elected 10 sysops at a time.

Right now, we have 42 sysops  with one of the highest sysops per users
ration among all global Wikis.

We plan to elect 6 new sysops every quarter and are discussing a similar
policy for bureaucrat election.

We strongly believe having a diverse pool of sysops makes them feel
empowered to serve the Wikimedia movement for a long period of time.

If you are interested in knowing more, take a look at the policy here
<https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/7gmi> and the discussion in the related talk
page.

Thanks,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Korea

2019-04-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations!  Thrilled to see this happen.  It's been a long road, and
I am proud to have been (very modestly) involved in some of the development
efforts.

Cheers,

A.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 1:43 AM effe iets anders 
wrote:

> Refreshing to see some positive development here again, after all the
> complications, setbacks etc - welcome to your new status WMKR! It was
> always a joy to see you at work in activities, looking forward to hearing
> even more from you again :)
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:11 PM María Sefidari 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I am happy to share that earlier this year, the Wikimedia Foundation
> Board
> > of Trustees approved our newest Wikimedia chapter - Wikimedia Korea!
> >
> > For more information about our newest Wikimedia chapter, Wikimedia Korea,
> > please see the announcement on the Wikimedia Foundation website:
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/04/23/wikimedia-korea-new-chapter-affiliate-launches-in-south-korea/
> >
> > I want to congratulate the new chapter and recognize their commitment,
> > efforts, and time involved in moving through the chapter recognition
> > process over the past year. From their work building partnerships with
> > universities, to supporting and training new editors in South Korea, we
> > look forward to seeing the impactful work from our community members in
> > South Korea as they advance in their new affiliate role.
> >
> > As many of you know, this is our first chapter approval in several years
> -
> > since the newest Wikimedia affiliate approval processes were put in
> place.
> > This marks a new moment in the history of our Wikimedia movement
> > affiliates. The Board appreciates the amazing work coming from these user
> > groups around the world, and is inspired to see how far some of these
> > groups have come in terms of their impact both on our movement and their
> > local communities. Indeed, we should all be proud of the impact our
> > affiliates continue to have on our projects, our vision, and the world
> > around us.
> >
> > Any affiliate interested in becoming a chapter or thematic organization
> > must have at least two years of activities and experience as a user group
> > before applying. Please check out the user group creation guide to get a
> > user group started - it is meant to be very easy:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups/Creation_guide
> >
> >
> > You can find a lot more information about our movement affiliates model
> on
> > Meta:
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> >
> > You may also reach out to the Affiliations Committee with questions or to
> > begin the approval process for your group:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee
> > Please join me in congratulating Wikimedia Korea for this important
> > achievement and thanking the members of the Affiliations Committee and
> > Wikimedia Foundation staff who supported and worked with them during this
> > long process.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > María
> >
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> >
> > Chair of the Board
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
 make
> > > Wikipedia work are a bad fit for original, deadline reporting:
> > >
> > > Wikipedia:NOR - no original research
> > > Wikipedia:RS - requirement for reliable sources
> > > Wikipedia:V - verifiability
> > > Wikipedia:NORUSH - there is no deadline/eventualism
> > >
> > > Most anyone who tries Wikinews first hand will experience this mismatch
> > and
> > > realize it is a poor fit.
> > >
> > > However, rather than lament why Wikinews doesn't work, we should
> > celebrate
> > > the fact that we have found a better mode: entries that evolve minute
> to
> > > minute (oftentimes second to second) to best reflect the world as we
> know
> > > it. Embrace that new, live, constantly updated snapshot of reality –
> the
> > > Wikipedia article.
> > >
> > > If you want to see some of the earlier debates about the origins of
> > > Wikinews, October 2004 is a good place to look:
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-October/thread.html
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-October/061017.html
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Report 2018: Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey

2019-04-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Basak and the rest of the group!

You have been doing good work under unfortunate and difficult
circumstances.  Keep it up, and we continue to hope for the lifting of the
ban.

Cheers,

Asaf

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> Dear All,
>
> After a delay, I am happy to share the annual report of the Wikimedia
> Community User Group Turkey.
>
> -Basak
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Turkey/Reports/2018
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spam on the Wikimedia India blog (and therefore on en.planet)

2019-03-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
It's been reported to the Wikimedia India board.  They are looking into it.

  A.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:55 AM Jérémie Roquet  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Could anyone please have a look at what's going on with the Wikimedia
> India blog? There has been spam for dating sites there for several
> days (if not weeks).
>
> This is not exactly obvious when you look at the main page¹, except if
> you scroll down a bit, but “ctrl+f dating” in the rss feed², or in the
> planet rss feed³ and you'll see it.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> ¹ http://blog.wikimedia.in/
> ² http://blog.wikimedia.in/feed/
> ³ https://en.planet.wikimedia.org/rss20.xml
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Wikimedia Sverige receives a total of USD 500, 000+ in funding for three new projects, and a cost reduction of USD 30, 000/year

2019-03-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Wonderful news, John!  Congrats to WMSE and to all of us, who will benefit
from this work.

  A.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:31 PM John Andersson 
wrote:

> Wikimedia Sverige is proud to be the recipient of three new grants
> totaling around USD 500,000. We hope to work with many of you as part of
> these projects. If you are interested in getting involved or receiving
> updates please let me know.
>
> Furthermore, the chapter also has a new heavily subsidized agreement for
> our office space.
>
> Project 1: Wikispeech – The Speech Data Collector
>
> The first project is a continuation of the Wikispeech[1] project, a
> text-to-speech (TTS) system that converts written text into speech. From
> September 2019 to April 2021 we aim to finalize building the MediaWiki
> extension and to build tools to collect speech data to add pronunciations
> to Wikipedia, Wiktionary and Wikidata and to add more languages to the
> text-to-speech solution. The tools should also be possible to use for oral
> citations.
>
> The work happens in partnership with the Royal Technical Institute, STTS
> (a language processing company), Mozilla Foundation, Wikimedia Deutschland
> and the Swedish Dyslexia Association.
>
> As always, you can find the full application on our wiki (in Swedish):
> https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Wikispeech_–_Talresursinsamlaren_2019/Ansökan
>
> Project 2: Wikipedia in Libraries
>
> From 2019 to 2020 Wikimedia Sverige, together with the National Library of
> Sweden, will develop an online training module for Swedish librarians
> focused around free knowledge and the Wikimedia platforms. This will be a
> mandatory training for all of Sweden's 5,000 public librarians. Our hope is
> to give all of them a basic understanding of the Wikimedia projects, as
> well as to complement the online training with advanced courses for the
> most dedicated. The advanced courses will give them the tools to ongoingly
> organize activities and events independently at their libraries across the
> country.
>
> Furthermore, the librarians will be engaged in the #1Lib1Ref and
> FindingGLAMs campaigns.
>
> There is a great potential to receive continuous funding over the coming 3
> years if successful.
>
> As always, you can find the full application on our wiki (in Swedish):
> https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Wikipedia_i_biblioteken_2019/Ansökan
>
> Project 3: Bibliographical data on Wikidata
>
> We continue our work to include bibliographical data on Wikidata. The
> project details are still being negotiated with the funder. The project
> will start in mid-2019 and last until 2020.
>
> Cost reduction
>
> Starting from March 2019 we have a new agreement in place for a heavily
> subsidized coworking space office from the Swedish Internet Foundation.
> Through the agreement we will save us around USD 30,000 per year compared
> to when we had an office of our own.
>
> We have received this generous subsidy because Wikipedia is considered so
> important for the infrastructure of the Internet. We are very happy that
> the agreement does not have an end date and that we have the possibility to
> grow significantly over time as well (while keeping the generous subsidy).
>
> Please contact John Andersson (john.anders...@wikimedia.se) if you have
> any questions.
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikispeech
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
> - - - -
>
> John Andersson
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board of Wikimedia Indonesia

2019-02-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
ia in 2016 and interested in being actively involved in Wikimedia
> Indonesia's activities. In 2019, she was trusted to serve as the Member of
> Board of Trustees.
>
> Fajarwati is a member of the Wikimedia Indonesia since 2016 and graduated
> from Jakarta State Polytechnic in Accounting Degree and Bachelor of
> Accounting at the University of Persada Indonesia Y.A.I. Before joining the
> project Keterlibatan Masyarakat dalam Teknologi (KMT) and Peningkatan
> Kinerja Teknologi Cipta Media (PKT) as an accountant in 2016–2017, she
> worked in the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Indonesia in the same position.
> She is currently working as a Project Assistant at the
> Kemitraan-Partnership for Governance Reform. Having involved in many
> projects and considerably contributed to Wikimedia Indonesia in providing
> financial insight, she is elected as one of Member of Board of Trustees.
>
> --
> Biyanto Rebin | Ketua Umum (*Chair*) 2016-2018
> Wikimedia Indonesia
> Surel: biyanto.re...@wikimedia.or.id
> -
> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to Special:Blockwith partial blocks

2019-01-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
This is one of your list moderators speaking.

"80hnhtv4agou" -- I am cautioning you against hijacking this thread to
discuss your current conflict.  Your question can be construed to be
general enough for Sydney to usefully answer for your and others'
information.  But please do not pursue your personal conflict in this
thread.

   A.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:22 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

>
> what about administrators that abuse these tools.
>
> From: Sydney
> Poore
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:04 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing
> List
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to
> Special:Blockwith partial blocks
>
> Hello
> all,
>
> In 2019, Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is
> continuing to
> make improvements to Special:Block with the addition of the
> ability to set
> a Partial
> block
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_health_initiative/Per_user_page,_namespace,_category,_and_upload_blocking
> >.
>
>
> While
> no functionality will change for sitewide blocks, over the next few
> months
> Special:Block will change to allow for the ability to block a named
> user
> account or ip address from:
>
>1.
>
>Editing
> one or more specific page(s)
>2.
>
>Editing all
> pages within one or more namespace(s)
>3.
>
>
> Uploading files
>4.
>
>Emailing other
> users
>
> Changes are being made to the design of the user interface
> for
> Special:Block to enable admins to set partial blocks.
>
> All
> Wikimedia administrators are invited to try partial blocks on
> testwiki.
>
> Special:block on testwiki allows admins to block an account
> from editing on
> up to 10 pages.
>
> Administrators on Wikimedia projects
> are invited to test this new way of
> doing blocks on testwiki. Admins can
> reply off list to this email to
> request access to test.
>
> Tell us if
> your Wikimedia project wiki is interested in being one of first
> wikis to
> enable partial block.
>
> Special:Block with partial block enabled went live
> on Italian Wikipedia
> today (January 16.)
>
> Our team is looking for more
> Wikimedia wikis that want to use the first
> version of partial
> block.
>
>
> The first version of partial blocks is simple with new
> features to be added
> in the coming months.
>
> Please spread the word by
> about these changes to Special:Block by
> forwarding this emails to others who
> might be interested in learning more
> about partial blocks.
>
> You can
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> >
> or
> by email to give us feedback about the changes to
> Special:Block.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Community of Tatar Language User Group

2019-01-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations, Tatar colleagues!

  A.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:02 PM Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin <
f...@yandex.com> wrote:

> First public event on behalf of the newly recognized Wikimedia Community
> of Tatar language User Group
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CEE/Newsletter/December_2018/Contents/Russia_report
>
> Public presentation of Wikimedia projects, activities of local Wikimedians
> and their benefits for regional development to the President, Government &
> mass-media of Tatarstan, as well as Russia's ICT ministry & industry
> scheduled for the end of January
>
> with invitation to WUG TATAR & WMRU member to speak @ EDU RUSSIA 2018
> conference in Kazan at the end of February-beginning of March (Plenary
> attended by Russia's Minister for Education.
>
> --
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> skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan
>
>
> 05.12.2018, 14:50, "Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin"  >:
> > Our St.Petersburg colleagues wrote a Russian Wikinews article dedicated
> to the event.
> >
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Татарские_викимедийцы_создали_четвёртую_в_России_юзер-группу_Викимедиа
> >
> > It's English translation is available in November 2018 CEE Newsletter @
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CEE/Newsletter/November_2018/Contents/Russia_report#Russia_report:_Tatar_Wikimedians_created_Russia's_4th_Wikimedia_User_Group
> >
> > For Erzya language version, see
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Татаронь_викис_витни-петнийтне_тейсть_нилеце_Россиясо_Викимедиянь_пурнавкс
> >
> > Translation into Tatar is also coming along @
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Татарча_язучы_викимедиачылар_Россиядә_дүртенче_Викимедиа_кулланучылар_төркемен_төзеде
> >
> > regards,
> > farhad
> >
> > --
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> skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan
> >
> > 27.11.2018, 20:15, "Kirill Lokshin" :
> >>  Hi everyone!
> >>
> >>  I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> >>  [1] the Wikimedia Community of Tatar Language User Group [2] as a
> Wikimedia
> >>  User Group. The group aims to develop Wikipedia in Tatar into most
> popular
> >>  content portal of the Tatar-language internet; to grow other Wikimedia
> >>  projects in the Tatar language; and to teach new generations of
> >>  Tatar-language Wikimedians, developing their skills through sharing
> >>  experiences.
> >>
> >>  Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >>
> >>  Regards,
> >>  Kirill Lokshin
> >>  Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >>
> >>  [1]
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Tatar_language_User_Group
> >>  [2]
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Tatar_language_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

2018-12-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Note that this is not to be confused with there necessarily being more
pageviews for the most read articles about women than for the most read
articles about men.  It does show there's more coverage of less-interesting
men than there is of less-interesting women.

  A.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 3:22 AM Tilman Bayer  wrote:

> Hi Micru,
>
> in general, there may be better venues to ask this kind of question, e.g.
> the Wiki-research-l and Gendergap mailing lists (both CCed). But for a
> partial answer, the paper by Marit Hinnosaar reviewed here looks at these
> stats (if not their long-term trend):
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2015/December#Does_advertising_the_gender_gap_help_or_hurt_Wikipedia
> ?
>
> E.g. "On a typical (median) day in September 2014, no one read 26 percent
> of the biographies of men versus only 16 percent of the biographies of
> women."
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 3:35 AM David Cuenca Tudela 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Are there any statistics that track the evolution of page views of
> > male/female biographies in the different Wikipedias?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Micru
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[Wikimedia-l] GLAM-Wiki 2018 session videos

2018-11-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello.

The GLAM-Wiki 2018 conference organizers did not provide video recording,
but Andrew Lih saved the day and recorded the whole conference himself,
with cellphones and tripods.

It took some time to edit the videos, but they are now up on Commons:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GLAM_WIKI_Tel_Aviv_2018_videos

Consult the program for the session names and descriptions:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMTLV2018/Program

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) 
wrote:

> I think it is a very good move.
>
> Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our
> mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only
> specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people.
> All those who do great things, but who are not representative of an
> affiliate.


True.  But:


> Berlin has become so big that increasingly, many decisions
> are made over there, in a closed environment. And those who are not part
> it are missing opportunities to weight in.


I have been to every Wikimedia Conference since 2009, and I disagree with
this characterization.  I am hard-pressed to think of *decisions* made at
WMCON.  I remember discussions, feedback-gathering (e.g. the recent
strategy work), but not *decisions*.  The only *decisions* I can think of
actually made at the Wikimedia Conference are either: 1. committee
decisions (e.g. AffCom), using the conference for a face-to-face meeting
and making the same kinds of decisions they otherwise make online, or 2.
decisions between a group of volunteers to collaborate on something (i.e.
individuals inspiring each other into undertaking a volunteer project, e.g.
WLM).

Characterizing this conference as a secretive decision-making cabal is
untrue and unfair, and may give people who've never been to it a very wrong
impression.

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

2018-07-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:36 AM Balázs Viczián 
wrote:

>
> Would love to see people management skills workshops, and organizational
> skills (logistics) workshops...but I attend an event only every 2-3 years
> (or less), so this is just an almost silent suggestion :)
>

Wikimedia conference in recent years have indeed been putting more and more
of an emphasis on people skills and governance skills.  Learning Days[1]
and the pre-conference Board  Training[2] at this year's WMCON are one
example, but regional and national conference have been seeing more
interest in these skills too.

Cheers,

A.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Learning_and_Evaluation/News/Learning_Days_for_Wikimedia_Conference_2018
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Pre-Conference_Boards_Training
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[Wikimedia-l] SPARQL tutorial video (2 hours)

2018-07-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hullo.

I recently recorded a video of my 2-hour SPARQL tutorial.  It is better
than the SPARQL section in my 3-hour Intro to Wikidata video from a couple
of years ago, and is easier to follow, with the query screen fed directly
rather than through the video camera.

It is now available here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querying_Wikidata_with_SPARQL_for_Absolute_Beginners.webm


Enjoy!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stats re new users per gender per year in Hebrew Wikipedia

2018-06-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
(A Quarry query, not Wikidata query, in this case.)

And the table doesn't come through on the mailing list, so here's a
screenshot:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:User_gender_on_Hebrew_Wikipedia,_by_year,_through_May_2018.png


Cheers,

A.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 11:50 PM Shani Evenstein 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> This is something that made me happy this weekend and am happy to share --
> check out these stats from Hebrew Wikipedia regarding new users, per
> gender, per year, that Asaf generated via a WD query.
>
> You might notice a jump in numbers of female users in 2011, and then again
> in 2013 and 2015. I don't presume to be able to explain everything in the
> table below, but I'd like to think this is because of Wikimedia Israel's
> outreach efforts, which I'm proud to be part of since 2011.
> Here are some example milestones that I know of know of, which might
> explain these stats. Note they are a small part of numerous, varied and
> diverse outreach projects that WM-IL has been running for years now in
> GLAM, EDU, WikiWomen, WLM etc.  --
> * 2011 is when we started GLAMing and doing Education work more seriously.
> * 2013 is when my WikiMed academic course started.
> * 2015 is when my second Wiki academic course opened, and also when
> WikiWomen started to work in an organized manner in Israel.
>
> While we still have much work to do in shrinking the gender gap and being
> really inclusive, it's nice to be reminded that our work *does* matter and
> has actual impact on the voices that get to be heard in our community. So
> to all those running workshops, GLAM / EDU projects, contests etc -- keep
> up the good work, because your work matters. These numbers are merely one
> way of demonstrating that.
>
> A lovely weekend, everyone!
>
> Shani Evenstein Sigalov
> Volunteer, WM-IL.
>
>
> Stats generated by this Quarry query:
> https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/27458
> Year Male Female Unspecified % female % specified
> 2004 --- --- --- ---
> 2005 0 1 42 100.00 2.33
> 2006 201 21 3698 9.46 5.66
> 2007 180 22 5451 10.89 3.57
> 2008 214 33 5347 13.36 4.42
> 2009 503 107 5432 17.54 10.10
> 2010 455 96 5392 17.42 9.27
> 2011 393 105 5259 21.08 8.65
> 2012 294 143 5602 32.72 7.24
> 2013 260 220 5794 45.83 7.65
> 2014 258 237 7035 47.88 6.57
> 2015 214 239 6327 52.76 6.68
> 2016 169 254 5835 60.05 6.76
> 2017 143 175 6824 55.03 4.45
> 2018 42 49 3074 53.85 2.88
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Classification/Categorization games for Commons?

2018-06-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Absolutely; I wanted to know if such a tool perhaps already exists.  If one
does not, then definitely, if we develop a tool, it should look to the
future and be based on Structured Data on Commons already!

   A.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:54 PM Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> I think it is pretty similar to what we have built in Wikidata, Do
> Structured Commons folks want to comment?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Hi, folks.
> >
> > It occurs to me there are tens or hundreds of thousands of images donated
> > en masse (GLAM etc.) that are only categorized as "image from X
> collection"
> > or "Files donated by X", i.e. essentially uncategorized by content.
> >
> > This obviously greatly reduces the likelihood of discoverability and
> > re-use.  But it's hard to find such files, and the massive categories
> > (thousands of files, often) don't make organizing the work easy.
> >
> > I'm think of a gamified interface -- à la Wikidata Game -- that would
> let a
> > volunteer (after OAuth identification) pick a category (from a pre-fed
> list
> > of massive categories of donated files) and show one photo from the
> > category that has only that category listed (i.e. has no categorization
> by
> > content), and let the volunteer type (with auto-complete, like HotCat)
> some
> > appropriate categories and hit Save, and the categories would be added,
> and
> > the next file shown.
> >
> > (Optionally, a second layer of verification could be added, where
> > volunteers would [also] be invited to vet or change previous volunteers'
> > categorization, and actual change to categories on Commons would only
> take
> > place after 2 (or N) users approved the categories.  I'm not at all sure
> > this is needed, and I think we can start without it and see how it goes.)
> >
> > So, does something like this exist?  If not, who wants to build it? :)
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Classification/Categorization games for Commons?

2018-06-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, folks.

It occurs to me there are tens or hundreds of thousands of images donated
en masse (GLAM etc.) that are only categorized as "image from X collection"
or "Files donated by X", i.e. essentially uncategorized by content.

This obviously greatly reduces the likelihood of discoverability and
re-use.  But it's hard to find such files, and the massive categories
(thousands of files, often) don't make organizing the work easy.

I'm think of a gamified interface -- à la Wikidata Game -- that would let a
volunteer (after OAuth identification) pick a category (from a pre-fed list
of massive categories of donated files) and show one photo from the
category that has only that category listed (i.e. has no categorization by
content), and let the volunteer type (with auto-complete, like HotCat) some
appropriate categories and hit Save, and the categories would be added, and
the next file shown.

(Optionally, a second layer of verification could be added, where
volunteers would [also] be invited to vet or change previous volunteers'
categorization, and actual change to categories on Commons would only take
place after 2 (or N) users approved the categories.  I'm not at all sure
this is needed, and I think we can start without it and see how it goes.)

So, does something like this exist?  If not, who wants to build it? :)

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] knowing English is a privilege (was Re: Paid translation)

2018-02-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:09 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> > We are not *teaching* encyclopedia articles.
>
> What is the difference between delivering the text of an encyclopedia
> article and teaching it?


Depending on one's understanding of "teaching", and its expected outcomes,
the difference can be significant. It can, for example, imply a different
exposition of information, or include comprehension questions and
drilling.  It can include student assessment (grading), statistics, etc.


> Encyclopedias are not written to be
> accompanied by a lecturer, tutor, or teacher.


That's true.  They're designed for self-study. But that does not mean an
encyclopedic article is the best vessel for teaching a topic.  Certainly,
most people cannot effectively pick up a language from reading the
Wikipedia articles about its morphology and syntax.


> Knowing any language is a privilege, and suggesting that there is any
> reason to narrow the Foundation's focus away from language instruction
> seems completely absurd to me.
>

I think there can be no doubt that languages are knowledge, and that
therefore language instruction falls squarely within the Wikimedia mission
"to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop
educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to
disseminate it effectively and globally."

But being within our mission is not enough to be actively pursued, and I
assume that by "the Foundation's focus", you're referring not just to the
mission, but to the set of things the Foundation is actively pursuing and
investing in, i.e. to its current strategy and goals.

It seems to me that the main argument for adding *language instruction* to
the set of goals the Foundation (or wider movement) actively pursues would
be some demonstration that the Wikimedia movement is *well-equipped to do
it very well*, especially compared to the relatively rich set of products
and solutions in the language instruction space.

I acknowledge that very few of those are free/libre.  But most people don't
use Wikipedia because it's free/libre; they use it because it's free of
cost and because it's really, really useful.  Likewise, we'd need to
convince ourselves we can do significantly better than Duolingo, Babbel,
Mondly, Mango, Busuu, etc., to make it a worthwhile pursuit for the
Wikimedia movement at this time, being as it would be (as always) at the
cost of pursuing other goals.

> Wikimedia should be busy getting even better at its main thing: wiki
> articles.
>
> Why? We are already the best at that. Why not make the wiki articles
> in Wiktionary better by not just playing audio recordings of words,
> which volunteers (not the Foundation) already provide, but meeting
> that initiative by recording utterances and predicting whether they
> are intelligible pronunciations, and doing the same with recording
> gadgets in Wikipedia's pronunciation articles? http://j.mp/irslides


I think that's a very interesting direction.  I would suggest that it would
only make sense to invest in, if at all, once we have Lexical data entities
in Wikidata. (soon!)

A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Facebook is a de-facto major venue of communication for a great majority of
Internet users.  Many communities, user groups, and chapters have some kind
of formal presence on Facebook -- "groups" or "pages".  Directing visitors
to your wiki to *your own wiki's* presence on this other major platform,
i.e. a direct link to your group/page on Facebook, is absolutely fine.  It
is *quite* different from, say, just linking to www.facebook.com or
explicitly endorsing it as a platform ("Join Facebook! It's great!") in
general.

As you note, a number of communities have done or are doing this.
Especially for smaller communities, the impact of such link placement can
be a significant driver of traffic (i.e. readers!) to your community
group/page on Facebook, which itself is important for outreach, awareness,
and volunteer recruitment, and therefore is mission-aligned.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:06 AM Jimmy Wales 
wrote:

> Speaking only for myself, not as a member of the board, I don't know of
> any legal or other reason why this should not be done.  I think we
> should be very careful about links or appearance of endorsement
> especially on article pages, but outreach to people in the world should
> take place wherever we find a willing and useful audience.
>
>
>
> On 2/28/18 6:29 AM, Minata Hatsune wrote:
> > I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those
> > consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not? Because
> it
> > same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical
> > website.
> >
> > Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
> > Vietnamese Wikimedian
> >
> > 2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James Heilman :
> >
> >> IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global
> policy.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune <
> minatahats...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia
> communities
> >>> put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main
> Page
> >> or
> >>> Sitenotice?
> >>>
> >>> I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia Wikipedia,
> >> Arabic
> >>> Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkmark of
> >> Facebook
> >>> as verified.
> >>>
> >>> All what I concern is: Facebook is a commerical website, we put a link
> as
> >>> "official" to them, will it same with Wikipedia biased for Facebook and
> >>> violated the NPOV policy? And in finally: is it OK if other projects
> can
> >> do
> >>> that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice
> >>> promotion to Facebook at <
> >>> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%
> >>> BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_
> >>> ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22
>  . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy
> >>> Vietnamese Wikimedian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User:Bhadani has passed

2018-02-09 Thread Asaf Bartov
Gangadhar was a super-active, dedicated English Wikipedian.  He was also a
mentor to several other Wikipedians.  He will be missed.

It may interest some of you to know he published an autobiography last
year, titled "Choice in Chaos: A Wikipedian's Autobiography"[1].  (I
haven't read it myself yet.)

   A.

https://www.amazon.com/Choice-Chaos-Gangadhar-Bhadani/dp/1482888920

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:38 PM Md. Ibrahim Husain 
wrote:

> Our fellow Wikipedian Gangadhar Bhadani has passed away 8th February 2018.
> He was one of the active Indian Wikipedians on English passionately
> contributing since 2005.
> May his soul rest in peace.
>
> Mohammad Ibrahim Husain Meraj
> Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Romania and Moldova User Group

2018-02-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations! :)

   A.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:51 PM Kirill Lokshin 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> the Wikimedians of Romania and Moldova User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group aims to promote the use of Romanian Wikipedia and its
> sister projects by the residents of Romania and Moldova, with the goal of
> improving the relevance and perception of Wikimedia projects among readers
> and users, as well as within the cultural and scientific communities.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1]
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's map capacities! (Announcing the CCM)

2018-02-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello again, everyone.

I'd like to respond to some questions, asked on and off list:

1. In the instructions, I described getting a group of people together to
discuss the group's capacities before submitting assessments.  The model I
had in mind was informal user groups, or volunteer-only chapter boards --
which is the case in the vast majority of the communities I work with.

However, for chapters that have staff, it makes sense to me that a single
staff member can submit assessments on behalf of the organization.  It's
for each org to decide whether and how it would like to perform the
assessments -- some may want a board discussion, while others may happily
delegate to the ED or to some other staff member.

2. The ~40 capacities described in the guidelines and listed in the table
are the result of some research and mapping efforts in the past couple of
years, but are not necessarily definitive and certainly not exhaustive.
This means you *can* add capacities that you think are missing, and that
you consider an important aspect to assess your group's capacity against.
To minimize disruption to the table, I ask that you propose new capacities
in the talk page of [[m:CCM]] first, so we can refine and discuss before
adding them to the table. (Some capacities may turn out to be aspects of
existing capacities, where a revision of the capacity description would
capture it well, etc.)

3. The current format, of a "table of doom", is just a simple attempt at
generating an overview.  I am happy to discuss other ways to collect this
information. For example, would a shared spreadsheet (like a Google Sheet)
be more convenient?  Or a series of Google Forms (one for each capacity?)
linked from the main page?  Or some custom data-entry and querying system?
(If this is preferred, I could build one, but I'd need help with UI design).

4. Finally, I realize the launch happened at a time many of you were on
vacation, holiday, or otherwise occupied.  So I take the opportunity to
encourage you once more to take some time to fill in at least some
assessments for your group (you don't have to do them all at once?).  I
would need to make some resource allocation decisions soon, and the more
data I have, the better I can judge where those resources would best be
utilized.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 7:14 PM Pine W  wrote:

> I agree with Tomasz that some UI love would be beneficial. I think that
> simplification of the language for people who are not native English
> speakers might also be beneficial.
>
> As I said before, I like the general concept. If affiliates and online
> communities can be persuaded to use this tool or one like it in a somewhat
> systematic way, the patterns in the data could be very interesting.
>
> Pine 
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[Wikimedia-l] Let's map capacities! (Announcing the CCM)

2018-01-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

*How many Wikimedia communities have embraced advanced Wikidata use? How
many have active social media accounts, and are there geographic or
cultural patterns to which groups have and have not? Which groups have a
written, current strategy? What are the most common gaps in capacity in
Latin America? or in Eastern Europe? What kind of investment in capacity
building would be likely to bring the most value?*

To answer these questions and more, we invite all of you to participate in
the new *Community Capacity Map (CCM)*: a *self-assessment exercise* for
communities, groups (whether formally recognized user groups or not),
thematic organizations, and chapters, to *map capacities* across the
movement, with a view to identifying *existing gaps* as well as *opportunities
for capacity-building*.

The CCM is here on Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map

The context for this work, as well as "likely-asked questions, with
answers" ("LAQ"?), are explained here, including an answer to "*why should
I take the time to read all this?*" --
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map/About
(and also pasted at the bottom of this e-mail, for your convenience.)

The self-assessment is to be done based on the detailed *Guidelines* provided
here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map/Guidelines

I am looking forward to learning more about your groups' and orgs'
capacities and gaps, and to do my best to play matchmaker between those
needs and our available resources and opportunities.  While I encourage you
to begin contributing straightaway, *there is no deadline *-- this is
envisioned to be a long-term, ongoing, and tracked-over-time tool -- so
contribute if and when your group is able to make the time.

(don't forget to scroll down to the LAQ!)

Warmly,

Asaf Bartov
Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities

==
Likely-asked questions, with answers
this exists with working links and [modest] formatting here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map/About#Likely-asked_questions,_with_answers

Why do this at all?  The Community Resources team is doing this to attempt
a more *comprehensive* view of capacities and gaps across the movement, to
enhance our existing, anecdotal and ad-hoc, impressions of only some of the
communities and affiliates. See the goal statement above. Why now?  The CCM
experiment is an implementation of one of the recommendations made at the
conclusion of the Community Capacity Development pilot year
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development/Overall_pilot_year_evaluation#Conclusions_and_recommended_next_steps>
. Why should I spend the time to read through it or go through the
self-assessment?  There are a couple of reasons you may want to put in the
time: First, by self-assessing your group/organization's capacities and
gaps, you are giving WMF and other potential investors in community
capacity a chance to provide your group/org with resources and
opportunities to *build up* those capacities. Secondly, self-assessing
according to the Guidelines page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map/Guidelines> may be
in itself a worthwhile exercise and discussion-starter for your group/org,
pointing at potential areas for proactive work by *your org/group itself*,
for example in your next annual plan. Finally, self-assessing (at least
some) capacities today would enable you to review and re-assess in six
months, or two years, and see how your group/org has developed (or not) in
each of these aspects. So does WMF expect all groups and organizations to
do this?  No. This is an opportunity and a tool. Like all other tools, you
are free to use it or not, and we certainly understand that it would take
time and that you may have more pressing priorities in your group/org. We
*hope* as many groups, organizations, and communities eventually take the
time to self-assess, at least on some capacities, but it is not mandatory,
and there would be no penalty for not participating. Would we have to
provide self-assessments for *all* of the capacities?  No. Feel free to
self-assess on as many or as few capacities as you are able to, interested
in, or find relevant. You can also add assessments gradually, as your
group/org finds time to discuss and agree on assessments. Should I assess
capacities in the context of my wiki community, my user-group/chapter, or
what?  It depends. It may make sense to do separate assessments, or just
one. For example, while the English community has plenty of bot builders
and technical experts, you may belong to a small community contributing in
English in a country with little or no bot-building expertise, such as
Wikimedians in Uganda. In this case, it would make sense to describe the
capacities of the Ugandan group you're part of, and not of the whole
English Wikipedia co

[Wikimedia-l] Austin Hair is gone

2017-12-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I regret to have to inform this list that veteran Wikimedian and longtime
volunteer administrator of this mailing list, Austin Hair (User:Austin
Hair), has died, after prolonged health complications.

If you knew him, a good place to leave condolences is his talk page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Austin_Hair#Condolences

Life is short. Be kind to one another.

Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Gabriele Theren and Peter Dewald to the WMDE Board of Trustees

2017-11-30 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations, Peter and Gabriele, and WMDE.

Liam, to your question, at least one other chapter has appointed board
members: Wikimedia Israel.

   A.

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:36 AM Liam Wyatt  wrote:

> Thank you for this information Tim, and welcome Peter, and Gabriele!
>
> I know that the boards of Wikimedia- Germany, France, UK and Netherlands
> have "appointed" seats (also known as "external" or "expert" seats), and so
> too does the WMF. I assume that the formal legal process for these are all
> different according to local laws, but I also assume that the purpose is
> roughly the same: to ensure there is diversity of expertise and opinions,
> to fill specifically identified skill gaps, and to guard against a mere
> 'popularity contest' election.
>
> Do any other Chapters have "appointed" seats on their boards? Have some
> Chapters tried, but rejected the concept?
>
>
> wittylama.com
> Peace, love & metadata
>
> On 30 November 2017 at 14:08, Tim Moritz Hector <
> tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > just a short rectification: We have up to 2 (not 3) appointed seats in
> the
> > board. So in total our board consists of 9 members: 7 elected by the
> > general assembly and 2 appointed.
> >
> > I am happy that now, with the appointment of Gabriele and Peter, we have
> > all seats on our board filled.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-30 13:47 GMT+01:00 Tim Moritz Hector
>  > de
> > >:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I am delighted to announce that Wikimedia Deutschland’s Board has taken
> > > the opportunity to appoint two new members for the first time. Dr.
> > Gabriele
> > > Theren and Peter Dewald are taking appointed seats in our board.
> > >
> > > After our general assembly decided to make way for up to 3 appointed
> > > seats, we created a profile of skills we would like to add to the
> board.
> > We
> > > focussed on the future of Wikimedia Deutschland, strategically and
> > > financially, and got about 60 applications. Many of them showed
> > impressive
> > > profiles, striving for Free Knowledge.
> > >
> > > We decided for Gabriele, who is a trained lawyer, mediator and serves
> as
> > > department head in the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs in the
> > German
> > > federal state of Saxony-Anhalt. We also elected Peter who has 35 years
> of
> > > expertise as managing director at Apple and the software group Sage,
> was
> > > member of the board of Germany’s digital association Bitkom and has a
> lot
> > > of experience in volunteer work.
> > >
> > > Both will be members of the board until the next election by the
> general
> > > assembly in about one year. Please join me in welcoming Gabriele and
> > Peter
> > > to the Wikiverse.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tim Moritz Hector
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Moritz Hector
> > > Chair of the Board
> > > Wikimedia Deutschland
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New project - Meet Srpska

2017-11-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
Greats news, Bojana!

Congratulations! :)

   A.

On Nov 25, 2017 03:15, "WМ RepublikaSrpska" 
wrote:

> Hello everyone! I am pleased to inform you on behalf of the Wikimedia
> Community of the Republic of Srpska that after successfully completed
> project Traces of Soul 2017
>  (wle+wlm)
> our community launched a new project - Meet Srpska
>  D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%
> BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%9A%D0%B5_%D1%83_%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%
> D0%B0%D1%9A%D1%83_%D1%87%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%
> B0/%D0%A3%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%98_%D0%A1%D1%
> 80%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83_2017>,
> whose realization is in progress. It is a competition in writing articles
> on Wikipedia in Serbian language on topics related to the Republic of
> Srpska. In addition to the competition, one editing workshop and photo-tour
> were planned, as follow-up project activities. During Trace of Soul 2017
> photo competition, 2399 photographs of protected natural sights and
> immovable cultural and historical monuments from Republic of Srpska were
> collected. We are working on a report, so soon enough we will be able to
> publish more information and details related to the implementation of the
> project itself. Until then, the photos, winning photos, as well as the
> photos of the activities that have been realized can be viewed here
> . The
> exhibition of photographs was held at the Museum of Republika Srpska in
> Banja Luka - which we are especially proud of because of difficulties we
> faced in attempts to reach this institution and establish cooperation with
> them. We were persistent, eloquently explained our case and importance of
> the project itself and finally managed achieve our goal! We are at your
> disposal for any question or suggestion!
> Sincerely,
>
> Bojana
> Wikimedia Community
> of the Republic of Srpska
>
> *Замислите свет у коме свака особа на планети има слободан приступ
> целокупном људском знању. То је оно на чему ми радимо.*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Repudiation note to the defamation campaign launched by the organization Wiki Educação Brasil

2017-11-17 Thread Asaf Bartov
Note from the list administrators:

After much consideration, we decided to permit this single response by the
other side of the Brazil dispute that has been brought up on this list
earlier this month.  You are welcome to read the substance of that response
at the link provided, but you are asked to refrain from discussing it
further on this list.

Technical note: The post asserts it is "authorized by the Wikimedia list
administrators". This should be understood to mean only that we agreed to
allow a post with a link to their response, since the other side of this
dispute got to post their concerns on this list before we shut down that
thread.  We asked that this post be made on that original thread (where it
belongs and where it would be findable by any future search), and *not* to
start a new thread.  We understand it was technically difficult for the
poster (who was not subscribed to this list before) to reply to that
thread, so we've let this post through.

Again, we think this dispute cannot be usefully pursued or resolved on this
list, and ask both sides to leave it at that *on this list*, and to
continue (if they must) on the other channels this is already being pursued
on.

Thanks,

 Asaf Bartov (volunteer capacity)
On behalf of the Wikimedia-l administrators

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 8:56 PM NeuroMat Comunicação <
comunica...@numec.prp.usp.br> wrote:

> The Research, Innovation and Dissemination Center for Neuromathematics
> (RIDC NeuroMat) has been a major institutional contributor to Wikimedia
> projects and repudiates vehemently the defamation campaign launched by the
> Wikimedia affiliate Wiki Educação Brasil, in particular on the Wikimedia
> Mailing List. The RIDC NeuroMat is a project funded by the São Paulo
> Research Foundation and is located at the University of São Paulo, in
> Brazil.
>
> The official note from the RIDC NeuroMat is available at:
> http://neuromat.numec.prp.usp.br/content/nota-de-repúdio
> -à-campanha-difamatória-da-organização-wiki-educação-brasil . An official
> version in English will be released in the coming days.
>
> This email has been authorized by the Wikimedia list administrators.
>
> The RIDC NeuroMat is happy to provide further information on its response
> to the defamatory campaign launched by the Wikimedia affiliate Wiki
> Educação Brasil. Further inquiries should be addressed to comunicacao@
> numec.prp.usp.br , not this list.
>
> On behalf of *Antonio Galves*, coordinator of the RIDC NeuroMat
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement under DMCA attack!

2017-11-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
A message from your list moderators:

This thread does not belong on this list.

It is spillover of a long and bitter conflict in the Portuguese community,
and this list's membership is not well situated to contribute to a solution
through discussion on this list.  Those particularly interested and able
can participate in relevant threads on the Portuguese Wikipedia.

However, moving the mutual recriminations onto this list is escalation that
can only upset people and exacerbate the conflict, and is not an effective
way to seek help.

As was mentioned, the matter involves allegations of harassment --
investigated by the Support and Safety team in the Community Engagement
department at WMF -- as well as legal action.  Both avenues would not
benefit from partial and probably-biased context shared on this list.

The parties in conflict should continue to seek a modus vivendi on the wiki
they share, on-wiki, as well as through the channels they are already
pursuing.  Smearing the other side on this list won't accomplish anything.

Accordingly, *please stop posting on this thread*.  We have also placed the
Brazilians involved in this conflict on temporary moderation, to prevent
further escalation.

(putting on my WMF hat for a moment -- As a further point of context, both
sides have at one point requested WMF intervention in Brazil.  WMF has not
yet announced whether and how it would intervene, though several
alternatives have been discussed. Stay tuned.)

 A.

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:47 PM Vi to  wrote:

> This is a very complex long-term "war" which, in my experience, never ends
> in a "reconciliation".
>
> Also, honestly, I don't think how can this comply with wikiversity mission.
>
> Vito
>
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail
> >
> Mail
> priva di virus. www.avast.com
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail
> >
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> 2017-11-06 15:30 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz <
> psychosl...@culture-libre.org>:
>
> > Thank Chico and Henrique for your reports and related links.
> >
> > I encourage both of you to document further this topic. But as the
> mailing
> > list format might quickly turn it into a flameware, to avoid list
> > moderators some disagreeable work, you could preferably find more suited
> > place to develop your points. Punctual feedback on the list to signal
> > creation or update of additional external resources is welcome, as far as
> > I'm concerned.
> >
> > You might, inter alia, use wikimedia-timeline[1] to generate an overview
> > of main statements you are claiming, each linked to related resources
> which
> > let reader deepen their inquiry on the topic if they have interest and
> > resources to do so.
> >
> > If you are interested to turn that in a research project as objective as
> > you might be able to create, I also encourage you to open a research
> > project on a Wikiversity instance, after a check of how such a project
> > might be conducted on the selected instance. You might also like to
> create
> > and conduct some interviews and publish them on Wikinews.
> >
> > I hope that the difficult situation you are passing through will end up
> in
> > the most contributive, positive and placid possible resolution.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > mathieu
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/molly/wikimedia-timeline
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 06/11/2017 à 11:59, Chico Venancio a écrit :
> >
> >> Ended up with out the links, sorry:
> >> [1]http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/wikibrasil.org.html
> >> [2]https://www.whois.com/whois/107.180.2.118
> >> [3]http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/leis/L9610.htm#art24
> >>
> >> Chico Venancio
> >>
> >> 2017-11-06 7:53 GMT-03:00 Chico Venancio :
> >>
> >> To all on the list, *this is characterization is filled with obvious
> >>> lies.*
> >>>
> >>> The DMCA was filed a month ago simply *DID NOT TAKE the site down*.[1]
> >>> Henrique quickly took down the article offending copyright and Godaddy
> >>> allowed it to continue to be hosted.[2]
> >>>
> >>> Henrique is a paid contractor of the user group Wiki Education Brazil
> >>> that
> >>> has repeatedly harassed several members of our user group (Joalpe and
> >>> myself included). And is probably here acting as a Meatpuppet of
> another
> >>> user who is under an Office action interaction ban to interact with
> >>> either
> >>> myself or João.
> >>>
> >>> That he goes on an international platform to call on the Dean of the
> >>> university were João works is egregious harassment and WMF should not
> >>> only
> >>> impose severe sanctions, but review both the grant and affiliation
> >>> agreements with the "user group" were this comes from.
> >>>
> >>> On the merits, after the event the organizer harassed several of our
> >>> members, and to me it is completely understandable that João does not
> >>> want
> >>> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018: Program themes, eligibility criteria and reporting deadlines

2017-10-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
Unbroken link for those on mobile devices who may have a harder time fixing
it:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2
018/Eligibility_Criteria

   A.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:50 AM Cornelius Kibelka <
cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> aside from the conversation about project/language communities – thanks for
> the feedback! – I just wanted to share the Eligibility Criteria page for
> the conference that is available on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.o
> rg/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Eligibility_Criteria
>
> I have received some off-list questions about specific details for specific
> affiliates. I think most of the questions are answered on this page. In
> case your question is not answered, feel free to write me an e-mail
> off-list.
>
> Best regards,
> Cornelius
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Berkman Klein Center: Will Wikipedia exist in, 20 years?

2017-10-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Great, thank you Asaf.
>
> Would it possible (both technically and legally) to also transfer
> subtitles? They would surely need some fixes, as it's automated (I guess)
> transcription , but it would probably be less workload than a transcription
> from scratch. If so, I would be happy to translate it to Esperanto — and
> the more obscure French language. ;)
>
It would have been possible, had there been any subtitles. It seems the
YouTube version at the moment contains only machine-generated subtitles,
and those are not available in the same mechanism as human-generated
subtitles, so the (wonderful) video2commons tool could not import them.

Cheers,

   A.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Berkman Klein Center: Will Wikipedia exist in, 20 years?

2017-10-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM Cristian Consonni 
wrote:

> On 24/10/2017 17:39, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote:
> > I would find interesting to have a copy of that video on Commons. It
> > might for example let the community use curration/translation facilities
> > of subtitles of our platform. According to the bottomline "Unless
> > otherwise noted this site and its contents are licensed under a Creative
> > Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license.", but the video is stored on
> > youtube, so I'm not sure the statement applies.
> >
> > Actually, I don't know if that's already something on rails somewhere,
> > but encouraging educational establishment to publish their multimedia
> > works on commons should be targeted. All the more when they are already
> > publishing works under a free license. :)
>
> If you look at the video on Youtube[1], it says that its license is
> indeed CC-BY (and indeed CC-BY 3.0 Unported, more info on this page[2])
>
> So, I think that this can be uploaded also on Commons without issue.
>

This is now done:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Will_Wikipedia_exist_in_20_years-.webm


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[Wikimedia-l] Emerging Communities: a proposed new definition

2017-09-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

Years ago, as part of the first Strategy process of 2009-2010, a
distinction entered our lives, between Global North and Global South
countries.  That distinction was borrowed from a United Nations agency
named ITU, and it was used as shorthand to refer to communities the
Foundation considered to need additional resources and help to achieve
impact on our mission of creating and sharing free knowledge.

However, the distinction was never a very good fit for us.  It was based on
UN notions like the Human Development Index, and gave much weight to
nation-wide economic conditions.  Its binary nature did not allow for
distinguishing between countries where Wikimedia work is possible and
happening, albeit with difficulty, and ones where no Wikimedia work, or
next to none, is happening, or possible.  It also looked only at geography,
whereas much of our work is defined by language communities and not by
geographies.  And it was political and alienating to many people.

In short, it was both not as useful as we needed it to be as well as
unloved and rejected by many.

The Community Resources team at the Wikimedia Foundation has been thinking
about replacing that distinction with a more nuanced one, that would be a
much better fit with our needs, would take into account the actual state of
editing communities, would consider multiple axes beyond geography, and
would be less controversial.

We began using the term "emerging communities" two years ago, first as a
replacement for the term Global South, but it has always been our intention
to define Emerging Communities ourselves.  Finishing the proposed
definition took a back seat for a while due to other priorities, but we are
ready to share the proposed definition today:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement/Defining_Emerging_Communities


We welcome your thoughts, on the talk page (ideally) or on this thread.
The definition is already our working definition, but we are open to
incorporating changes to both wording and substance through October 31st.

Be sure to take a look at the FAQ supplied at the bottom of the page, too.
:)

Cheers,

Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, Krishna.

First of all, this isn't "defamation", which is a precise legal term, that
is best not bandied about too lightly.

Secondly, Wikipedia is mentioned often in popular media these days, not
always in a very factual manner.  It is hard to imagine such casual
mentions have any significant impact on the Wikipedia brand.  It is
precisely Wikipedia's ubiquity in Internet-connected people's lives that
makes it possible to refer to it in such ways.

Thirdly, legal action is always expensive and sometimes risky.  It follows
that we need a very good reason to undertake the expense and (sometimes)
risk.  This does not look like an important thing to spend our resources on.

Cheers,

Asaf

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 7:05 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Introducing myself, I am Krishna Chaitanya Velaga from Andhra Pradesh,
> India. My user name is "Krishna Chaitanya Velaga", I've been actively
> contributing to en Wikipedia and Commons since December 2014. I also form
> the Executive Committee of Wikimedia Chapter (India). My mother tongue is
> Telugu (te).
>
> A Telugu movie titled Paisa Vasool
>  was released on 1
> September 2017. In the movie, male lead boasts himself by referring to
> Wikipedia. His statement in the movie is as follows: *"36 brawls, 24
> murders, 36 stabbings, This is visible record in Wikipedia" *(The same may
> be observed from the trailer of the movie, between 0:22 to 0:32 at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVUZ-jG_i3c). As far I am concerned I feel
> this as serious defamation of the brand, the community and the work we do.
> It really degrades the reality and the efforts we put to produce
> encyclopedic content to the readers.
>
> In this context, I request the community to take interest in their to voice
> their opinions, and also discuss any legal action to be enforced.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> [image: photo]
> *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga*
> Member | Executive Committee
> 
> Wikimedia Chapter (India) 
> +91 94948 65420 <+91%2094948%2065420> | kcvelaga.blogspot.in
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Now {{fixed}}.

   A.

On Sep 26, 2017 18:18, "Michael Snow"  wrote:

> On 9/26/2017 7:57 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote:
>
>> Alors nous induisons les lecteurs/trices en erreur avec des pages comme
>> celle-ci :
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists#Public
>> _mailing_lists
>>
>> JP
>>
> Oui, c'est bien possible qu'on a des informations dépassé.
>
> --Michel Neige
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Encyclopedic Writing Guide

2017-09-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sep 25, 2017 18:57, "Jean-Philippe Béland"  wrote:

This should have been posted to the Wikipedia mailing list since it doesn't
have anything to do with the other projects or the movement in general.


Um, no. This list is a general list, and content about Wikipedia,
*particularly* when not specific to any one language, is welcome here.

There is no active Wikipedia-only alternative to this list that would reach
this international audience.

A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odisha Government's Social media accounts are now under CC-BY 4.0

2017-09-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sep 19, 2017 21:26, "Lane Rasberry"  wrote:

This is good for all of India even though it is for a regional language,
because it will make it for other organizations and government offices to
follow the model.


Yes, but it is also good for absolutely all of us. We need rare photographs
from Odisha (and of all the notable people Odisha state officials meet
with) illustrating Wikipedia (and Wikidata, Wikivoyage etc.) in *all*
languages.

Some photos already on Commons are already used on wikis in languages other
than the languages of India (which includes English, of course).

Kudos to the entire passionate Odia community for this precedent-setting
achievement.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

2017-08-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Your thesis implies admin actions made this list unpopular. I think it is
plain to see this *wasn't* the case with this list. Indeed, some opinions
voiced in this thread indicate people want *more* admin action.

   A.

On Aug 26, 2017 6:30 PM, "John Erling Blad"  wrote:

1. The list gets popular
2. The list attracts people
3. The people sends emails
4. Other people reads emails with opinions
5. Other people don't want to read about other peoples opinions
6. Other people want to limit other peoples opinions
7. Admins starts to wonder how to limit emails
8. Admins starts to limit people
9. Admins makes list unpopular

…

This has no simple solution, and it can easily turn a living forum into a
dead forum.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] News on Wkipedia

2017-08-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
As far as I can tell, the Foundation does not have "policy on news across
its various projects".

So the answer to your original question:

> > Has the Foundation made a conscious decision to promote Wikipedia as a
> > > source of news, and if so, what were the results of its discussions
> with
> > > the Wikipedia and Wikinews communities?  Will the Foundation allocate
> any
> > > extra resources to this effort?
>

would seem to be this: No, there is no particular decision to promote
Wikipedia as a source of news.  There have, however, been a number of blog
posts and communications celebrating Wikipedia's success at providing
relatively up-to-date and accurate information on current events.  No
discussion with either Wikipedia or Wikinews communities took place, or
needed to, as this was just another aspect of Wikipedia being showcased on
the Wikimedia blog.

As far as I can tell, the Foundation has not allocated any extra resources
to promoting Wikipedia as a news source.  You are mistaking a couple of
blog posts to signify Some Grand Policy Change, but it is not so.

Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees appointments and officer positions

2017-08-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
Perhaps we can agree it is, properly, a *nomination by community
election* process, and lay this thread to rest. :)

A.

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:01 AM Katie Chan  wrote:

> On 23/08/2017 15:32, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > On 23 August 2017 at 12:32, Katie Chan  wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's go with the broader definition from (en) Wiktionary - "A process
> of
> >> choosing ... or other representatives by popular vote.", or even beyond
> the
> >> first sentence from en Wikipedia - "To elect means "to choose or make a
> >> decision", and so sometimes other forms of ballot such as referendums
> are
> >> referred to as elections, especially in the United States.".
> >
> > The community does not chose the representatives. It merely makes
> > *non-binding* recommendations.
> >
> > The choice - as to whether *or not* to accept them - rests entirely
> > with the board.
>
> The winners are still the chosen representatives of the community even
> if the existing board were not to appoint them to the board for whatever
> reasons or none, there were still an election.
>
> In the 13 years and 10 elections that has taken place, all the winners
> has been appointed by the way as far as I can tell, why the focus on
> that one word? Maybe feedback or suggestion to the overall process [1]
> would be more useful?
>
> Katie
>
> [1]:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2017/Post_mortem
>
>
> --
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> author is associated with or employed by.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
I agree with Strainu's comments above.

I described some issues with adopting policies and ill-fitting policies
under the Community Governance capacity page, in the Community Capacity
Development program:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development/Community_governance


A.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:09 PM Gnangarra  wrote:

> >
> > ​
> > Verifiability can be very different. For example oral sources
>
>
> ​very agree, the intangible sources are a really challenge to way you look
> at verifiability. Not only are wanting to gather the information and make
> it possible for others to also access it the very nature of the sources is
> dynamic and fragile bringing them into a tangible format risks the
> continuation of knowledge gained, a kin to exposing an ancient paper source
> to intense UV light.
>
> There is a lot of fantastic work going on around the world on how to
> "Europeanise" knowledge without destroying it  .  All of this gets more
> complex when you learn that knowledge isnt just a few words its part of a
> multidimensional connection to and in time, place, and circumstances  by
> bringing it into a one dimensional world like Wikipedia is in it self
> changing the very nature of the knowledge.   If our goal is to collect the
> sum of all knowledge then we need to be free as communities to address the
> uniqueness of the knowledge we seek within the bounds of culture(language)
> from which it originates
>
> > ​
>
>
> On 9 August 2017 at 04:12, Jean-Philippe Béland 
> wrote:
>
> > Verifiability can be very different. For example oral sources.
> >
> > JP
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 05:20 John Erling Blad,  wrote:
> >
> > > Policy should not have local variations, unless you want to create
> > > something different from Wikipedia. This is about core content
> policies.
> > > Those are no original research, verifiability, and neutral point of
> view.
> > > The one most don't follow is neutral point of view, where projects
> > rewrite
> > > world history to focus on their own local view.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:20 AM, Gnangarra  wrote:
> > >
> > > > its the cultural differences that influence the policy, so who's
> > culture
> > > is
> > > > more significant than everyone elses that will dictate the policies.
> > > >
> > > > On 8 August 2017 at 08:14, John Erling Blad 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes there are cultural differences between wikipedias on _content_,
> > but
> > > > > there should be no differences on _policy_ about that content.
> > > > > Note also that there are some differences on use of _facts_ that
> are
> > > > highly
> > > > > troublesome, and that comes from relaxed core policies.
> > > > > Armenian genocide for example.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Gnangarra 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > to quote, worth a read before even considering policies being
> > global
> > > > > > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/asi.23901/abstract
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This article explores the relationship between linguistic culture
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > preferred standards of presenting information based on article
> > > > > > > representation in major Wikipedias. Using primary research
> > analysis
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > number of images, references, internal links, external links,
> > > words,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > characters, as well as their proportions in Good and Featured
> > > > articles
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the eight largest Wikipedias, we discover a high diversity of
> > > > > approaches
> > > > > > > and format preferences, correlating with culture. We
> demonstrate
> > > that
> > > > > > > high-quality standards in information presentation are not
> > globally
> > > > > > shared
> > > > > > > and that in many aspects, the language culture's influence
> > > determines
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > is perceived to be proper, desirable, and exemplary for
> > > encyclopedic
> > > > > > > entries. As a result, we demonstrate that standards for
> > > encyclopedic
> > > > > > > knowledge are not globally agreed-upon and “objective” but
> local
> > > and
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > subjective.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 4 August 2017 at 10:18, Ziko van Dijk 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The number of pillars depends on the language version...
> > > > > > > And whether some rules is called pilöar not dpes not seem to be
> > pf
> > > > much
> > > > > > > importance
> > > > > > > Ziko
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John Erling Blad  schrieb am Do. 3. Aug.
> 2017
> > um
> > > > > > 14:42:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Five pillars are moot.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Gnangarra <
> gnanga...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The moment you have 

[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-07-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
For transparency, note that Gerard Meijssen has been placed on moderation
through Aug 31st, 2017, for repeated thread hijacking.

As with all moderated users, respectful and on-topic messages by him would
be let through to the list.

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners [including non-techies!]

2017-06-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
I'd like to specially praise *the Turkish volunteer User:Basak* for
creating the first *complete* translation of the subtitles for this 3-hour
tutorial.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/TimedText:A_Gentle_Introduction_to_Wikidata_for_Absolute_Beginners_(including_non-techies!).webm.tr.srt

Thank you, Basak!

(if you find this talk useful, do consider contributing to the translation
effort (from the complete English subtitles), or help recruit someone who
can.)

   A.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:32 AM Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Here's the (3-hour) footage of the detailed Wikidata tutorial delivered
> today:
>
> on Commons:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_Gentle_Introduction_to_Wikidata_for_Absolute_Beginners_(including_non-techies!).webm
>
> on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrAx3AmUvA
>
> the slides:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_-_A_Gentle_Introduction_for_Complete_Beginners_(WMF_February_2017).pdf
>
> It covers what Wikidata is (00:00), how to contribute new data to Wikidata
> (1:09:34), how to create an entirely new item on Wikidata (1:27:07), how to
> embed data from Wikidata into pages on other wikis (1:52:54), tools like
> the Wikidata Game (1:39:20), Article Placeholder (2:01:01), Reasonator
> (2:54:15) and Mix-and-match (2:57:05), and how to query Wikidata (including
> SPARQL examples) (starting 2:05:05).
>
> Share and enjoy. :)
>
>A.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:35 PM Rachel Farrand <rfarr...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Please join for the following talk:
>>
>> *Tech Talk**:* A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners
>> [including non-techies!]
>> *Presenter:* Asaf Bartov
>> *Date:* February 09, 2017
>> *Time: *19:00 UTC
>> <
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Tech+Talk%3A+A+Gentle+Introduction+to+Wikidata+for+Absolute+Beginners+%5Bincluding+non-techies%21%5D+=20170209T19=1440=3
>> >
>> Link to live YouTube stream <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrAx3AmUvA>
>> *IRC channel for questions/discussion:* #wikimedia-office
>>
>> *Summary: *This talk will introduce you to the Wikimedia Movement's latest
>> major wiki project: Wikidata. We will cover what Wikidata is, how to
>> contribute, how to embed Wikidata into articles on other wikis, tools like
>> the Wikidata Game, and how to query Wikidata (including SPARQL examples).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 30 April 2017)

2017-05-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
That's fantastic, Subhashish! :)

A.

On May 5, 2017 3:21 AM, "Subhashish Panigrahi" 
wrote:

> What made me happy this week is the release of our latest converter (check
> it out: https://or.wikipedia.org/s/14kh) that converts the Odia-language
> text into International Phonetic Alphabet and Roman. We have been
> struggling for some time now to add pronunciations for words and could not
> find anything that could do that job. So another fellow Wikimedian Prateek
> Pattanaik I scraped the code from an existing converter and created this.
> Now we are going to integrate this into our pronunciation project
> Kathabhidhana (https://github.com/OdiaWikimedia/Kathabhidhana) where we
> create pronunciations of words. The next batch of audio recordings will
> come on Commons with IPA and Romanization. Yay for more metadata! :)
>
> Subhashish
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Isaac Olatunde 
> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > What made me happy this week was the establishment of Wikimedia Hub in
> two
> > academic institutions in Nigeria, University of Ibadan and Nigeria
> > Institute of Journalism. I want to thank members of my community
> (Wikimedia
> > User Group Nigeria) who made this happened.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Isaac
> >
> >
> > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/05/02/digest-women-in-red/
> >
> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:28 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
> >
> > > Marielle there are a lot of great medical images in that textbook, Fae
> is
> > > there an ability to upload the images to commons by bot?
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Marielle Volz  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What made me happy this week was the discovery of some good
> scientific
> > > > imagery that was openly licensed!
> > > >
> > > > The USDA has created a bunch of identification sites for species of
> > > > agricultural interest and released the images into the public domain.
> > > > I was looking for images of a particular mite and discovered the Bee
> > > > Mite site has released most of their images and all of their text to
> > > > the PD [1]. (I have uploaded to commons although done a bit of a hack
> > > > job on it). There are other sites which would also be a candidate for
> > > > batch upload, which are listed here: http://idtools.org/identify.php
> > > > (anyone interested in molluscs?)
> > > >
> > > > I have also discovered this Clinical Skills textbook licensed under
> CC
> > > > by 4 attribution.[2] I am in the process of adding some high quality
> > > > medical diagrams to articles on wiki. This same website hosts a bunch
> > > > of other open text books which may be a similarly good source of
> > > > content: https://opentextbc.ca/
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://idtools.org/id/mites/beemites/
> > > > [2] https://opentextbc.ca/clinicalskills/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Kalliope Tsouroupidou
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > +1 on this.
> > > > > News of the newly recognised User Group put a smile on my face :)
> > > > >
> > > > > K.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:25 AM, Pine W 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'm happy to see the development of the Commons Photographers User
> > > Group
> > > > >>  >.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Personal background story (feel free to skip reading this):
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The first DSLR I touched was easy to use with the automatic
> settings
> > > for
> > > > >> indoor photography in good lighting. Based on this limited
> > > experience, I
> > > > >> concluded that photography with a DSLR was easy. Some time later I
> > > > bought
> > > > >> my own first DSLR, and quickly got lost. The menus were not
> > intuitive
> > > > to me
> > > > >> as a DSLR newbie, there were new terms like "aperture" and
> "f-stop",
> > > the
> > > > >> manual was written for someone who already had good technical
> > > knowledge
> > > > of
> > > > >> how cameras work, and my lens wouldn't focus like I wanted.
> > Wikipedia
> > > > has
> > > > >> some helpful articles about photography concepts, but what would
> > have
> > > > >> helped me a lot is spending time with an experienced photographer.
> > > > After a
> > > > >> few years of trial and error, and asking questions of more
> > > knowledgeable
> > > > >> people, I'm happy with my skill level as a photography hobbyist
> in a
> > > > >> variety of situations. I hope that the new user Commons
> > Photographers
> > > > group
> > > > >> will facilitate knowledge exchange, improve camaraderie, and
> > consider
> > > > ways
> > > > >> to improve access to equipment -- especially for photographers in
> > > > >> situations where resources are scarce and potential for valuable
> > > > >> open-source contributions are very high.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What's making you happy this week?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners [including non-techies!]

2017-05-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello again.

I'd like to let you know that thanks to Victor Grigas, the Commons video of
this talk (link below) now has English subtitles, synced to the talk.  This
should make it easier to *translate the subtitles *to make this video
useful for fellow Wikimedians in other languages.

It's a very long tutorial, so this would be a significant effort, perhaps
best taken by a group, or piece by piece.  If you do complete the
translation in any language, I'd love to hear about it.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:32 PM Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Here's the (3-hour) footage of the detailed Wikidata tutorial delivered
> today:
>
> on Commons:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_Gentle_Introduction_to_Wikidata_for_Absolute_Beginners_(including_non-techies!).webm
>
> on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrAx3AmUvA
>
> the slides:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_-_A_Gentle_Introduction_for_Complete_Beginners_(WMF_February_2017).pdf
>
> It covers what Wikidata is (00:00), how to contribute new data to Wikidata
> (1:09:34), how to create an entirely new item on Wikidata (1:27:07), how to
> embed data from Wikidata into pages on other wikis (1:52:54), tools like
> the Wikidata Game (1:39:20), Article Placeholder (2:01:01), Reasonator
> (2:54:15) and Mix-and-match (2:57:05), and how to query Wikidata (including
> SPARQL examples) (starting 2:05:05).
>
> Share and enjoy. :)
>
>A.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:35 PM Rachel Farrand <rfarr...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Please join for the following talk:
>>
>> *Tech Talk**:* A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners
>> [including non-techies!]
>> *Presenter:* Asaf Bartov
>> *Date:* February 09, 2017
>> *Time: *19:00 UTC
>> <
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Tech+Talk%3A+A+Gentle+Introduction+to+Wikidata+for+Absolute+Beginners+%5Bincluding+non-techies%21%5D+=20170209T19=1440=3
>> >
>> Link to live YouTube stream <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrAx3AmUvA>
>> *IRC channel for questions/discussion:* #wikimedia-office
>>
>> *Summary: *This talk will introduce you to the Wikimedia Movement's latest
>> major wiki project: Wikidata. We will cover what Wikidata is, how to
>> contribute, how to embed Wikidata into articles on other wikis, tools like
>> the Wikidata Game, and how to query Wikidata (including SPARQL examples).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Will you be at the WMF mothership Wednesday evening?

2017-04-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
(Such a list exists and is regularly used, including by Wayne. He just made
a mistake in addressing this announcement this time.)

  A.

On Apr 26, 2017 11:31, "Tomasz Ganicz"  wrote:

> Well... If you buy me a ticket from Warsaw to SF I can consider to visit
> you :-)
>
> Seriously speaking - I suggest to establish local E-mail list for SF
> located folks for such announcements :-) Wikimedia-l is global list.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-26 8:27 GMT+02:00 J. :
>
> > Please join us in downtown San Francisco in you are at the Wikimedia
> > Foundation mothership!
> >
> > The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather for
> the
> > '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' series to collaborate, mingle, and learn about
> new
> > projects and ideas.
> >
> > We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles.
> Newcomers
> > and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is
> > available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages
> (including
> > beer and wine) plus light snacks.
> >
> > We will have some announcements and lightning talks from the floor, and a
> > breakout session. This is our one year anniversary, so there will be
> cake!
> >
> > Please RSVP here:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bay_Area_WikiSalon_April_2017
> >
> > ... and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. This also
> > helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in. If you do not
> have
> > time to RSVP, go ahead and crash the gates and Stephen will get you in!
> >
> > See you soon! {{u|Checkingfax}} (Wayne) and {{u|Ben Creasy}}
> > (co-organizers)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-20 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, Rupert.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:17 AM rupert THURNER 
wrote:

>
> asaf, you mind loose a word about the spec or brand of these laptops?
>

The specs vary, but all laptops are about 3-4 years old.  The current stock
includes mostly Dell and Lenovo laptops of various models.  We are not
prepared to track the specs in detail, because we are also not prepared to
spend the time answering specific questions and letting people pick and
choose specific models.  (see Principle #1 in the program page on Meta).

The goal of the program is to provide laptops to contributors who really
need a reasonably-recent functioning laptop because they do not have one
(i.e. have a dysfunctional laptop, only have mobile devices, etc.), not to
ones who already have a reasonably-recent functioning laptop and may be
interested in a slight upgrade.  So enabling spec comparison seems like it
would offer a very low return on the time spent.

  A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Asaf Bartov
I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes.  I do not consider it an
effective vehicle for this program.  Reviewing it now, I stand by it that a
dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information we
need is a better fit.

Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and is based on
depreciated office laptops.  We don't have much photography gear in the
office, and aren't likely to have such gear to donate.

Cheers,

   A.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote:

> Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> Community donations?
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
>
> It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
>
> Michael
>
> > Asaf Bartov <mailto:abar...@wikimedia.org>
> > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> called
> > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > community members who would put it to good use.
> >
> > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> Meta,
> > here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> >
> > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
> > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
> > the decisions we'll be making.
> >
> > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > Applications are welcome.
> >
> > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
> > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> >
> > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > channels or other communication forms you use.
> >
> > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
> > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> inspired
> > this program.
> >
> > Mini-FAQ:
> >
> > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
> > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working machines,
> > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> >
> > Q: Am I eligible?
> > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > A: no.
> >
> > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > A: yes, eventually.
> >
> > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > purposes?
> > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> of
> > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once
> > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't
> > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> >
> > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
> > this program?
> > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > A: So are we! :)
> >
> > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > A: So it goes.
> >
> > Q: I have more questions!
> > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-17 Thread Asaf Bartov
No, because anything larger than a laptop would no longer be simple and
cheap to deliver.

   A.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:18 AM Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Awesome, well done! Does the same program apply to servers?
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:20 AM Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net>
> wrote:
>
> > This is a fantastic idea.  Well done to everyone involved.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
> >
> > On 17 March 2017 at 15:06, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > called
> > > the Hardware Donation Program.  In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > >
> > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > Meta,
> > > here:
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > >
> > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> pay
> > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most
> of
> > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > >
> > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > Applications are welcome.
> > >
> > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would
> be
> > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > >
> > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> idea
> > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > inspired
> > > this program.
> > >
> > > Mini-FAQ:
> > >
> > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> regularly
> > > replaces older machines.  This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > that are available for donation.  We can donate them locally to San
> > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > >
> > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > A: no.
> > >
> > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > A: yes, eventually.
> > >
> > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > purposes?
> > > A: We can't.  We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > of
> > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> Once
> > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> can't
> > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > >
> > > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them
> through
> > > this program?
> > > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > > A: So are we! :)
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > > A: So it goes.
> > >
> > > Q: I have more questions!
> > > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >Asaf
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[Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

2017-03-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program called
the Hardware Donation Program.  In a word, it is a program designed to
donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
community members who would put it to good use.

The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on Meta,
here:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program

Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
the decisions we'll be making.

We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
Applications are welcome.

The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
encourage you to apply as soon as possible.

Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
channels or other communication forms you use.

Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and inspired
this program.

Mini-FAQ:

Q: Why are you doing this?
A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
replaces older machines.  This creates a stock of older, working machines,
that are available for donation.  We can donate them locally to San
Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.

Q: Am I eligible?
A: Read the fine program documentation.

Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
A: no.

Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
A: yes, eventually.

Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia purposes?
A: We can't.  We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood of
Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once
donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't
enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.

Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
this program?
A: No. Read the fine program documentation.

Q: I'm really happy about this!
A: So are we! :)

Q: I'm really angry about this!
A: So it goes.

Q: I have more questions!
A: Hit 'Reply'. :)

Cheers,

   Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-03-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:20 AM Trillium Corsage 
wrote:

> >> As always, he is (and other
> >> moderated users are) welcome to submit posts to the list before then,
> and
> >> if the posts are respectful and on-topic, they would be let through.
>
> That has not been my experience. In fact the last time I sent a
> coherently-explained, completely civil, on-topic,and time-sensitive email
> to the list, it was held by a moderator who:
>
> A) Suggested I was "trolling the WMF" (is trolling an entire
> 100-person-plus organization even possible?)
>
> B) Faulted it on bases including that I used the phrase "couple days"
> (i.e. "this might take a couple days") rather than his preferred
> formulation "couple *of* days"
>
> C) Put it up for a consensus vote among the other list moderators.
>
> I see the list has some new moderators, but I figure odds are this email
> will be stopped as well.
>

Not on my watch.  I have no access to past conversations so cannot comment
on the conversation you say you have had with list admins in the past, but
I will state for the record that I think grammatical imperfections (real or
perceived) are absolutely not an acceptable reason to withhold a message
from the list.  The vast majority of subscribers are not native speakers of
English, and even if they were, language snobbery is an anti-pattern for
constructive communication.

Re trolling, I am personally very wary of applying that label, and lean
toward avoiding it in all but the most extreme cases.  Neither a favorable
opinion of the WIkimedia Foundation, nor a real-world identity, are a
prerequisite for posting on this list.  It is perfectly acceptable and
on-topic to question or criticize the Wikimedia Foundation on this list, so
long as one adheres to basic rules of discourse: remaining civil, concise,
on-topic, and respectful in the face of disagreement; avoiding repetition,
aggression, and irrelevant hobby-horses; etc.

A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-03-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
As promised, Gerard has been unmoderated, FYI.

   A.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:56 AM Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> It's okay that some people disagree with this moderation action (others
> agree, even if they do not say so on-list).  This list is not moderated by
> whole-list-consensus.
>
> I have provided the reason for moderation, without going into details.  To
> do so would be to invite drama, which moderation exists to reduce.  The
> reason is informed by more than one incident, and not necessarily focused
> on cultural differences, as some assumed.
>
> Gerard will be unmoderated on March 1st.  As always, he is (and other
> moderated users are) welcome to submit posts to the list before then, and
> if the posts are respectful and on-topic, they would be let through.
>
>A.
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:50 AM Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There are words in other languages that have a rude, upleasant,
> > disrespectful or pejorative meaning in British English.  For an amusing
> > list of examples, see the Oxford Dictionary blog at
> > http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2016/02/words-that-sound-rude/
> >
> > I presume that I'm entitled to be complain when they are used in email
> list
> > exchanges, even when those exchanges are being conducted primarily in
> those
> > other languages?
> >
> > Returning now to the subject of the thread, I have no problem with
> Gerard's
> > posts, even if I have not always found them easy to understand, and see
> no
> > special reason to restrict his access to this list.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Florence Devouard <fdevou...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Same in French...
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 13/02/2017 à 12:35, John Erling Blad a écrit :
> > >
> > >> It is common to refer to those that cooperated with the Nazis during
> > WWII
> > >> as "kollaboratører" (kollaborators) in Norwegian too.
> > >> https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kollaborat%C3%B8r
> > >>
> > >> Translating between languages are fun! =)
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >> 13. feb. 2017 09.08 skrev "Jane Darnell" <jane...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> … The only disrespectful
> > >> thing I could find in his recent edits was his remark that he is not a
> > >> collaborator because his cultural heritage assumes "collaborators" are
> > >> "nazis", which is offensive in English. I would like to point out here
> > >> that
> > >> the word collaborator really does mean nazi in Dutch. It's one of many
> > >> translation challenges, so there is even a Wikipedia article that
> spells
> > >> it
> > >> all out:
> > >> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboratie
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
It's okay that some people disagree with this moderation action (others
agree, even if they do not say so on-list).  This list is not moderated by
whole-list-consensus.

I have provided the reason for moderation, without going into details.  To
do so would be to invite drama, which moderation exists to reduce.  The
reason is informed by more than one incident, and not necessarily focused
on cultural differences, as some assumed.

Gerard will be unmoderated on March 1st.  As always, he is (and other
moderated users are) welcome to submit posts to the list before then, and
if the posts are respectful and on-topic, they would be let through.

   A.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:50 AM Rogol Domedonfors 
wrote:

> There are words in other languages that have a rude, upleasant,
> disrespectful or pejorative meaning in British English.  For an amusing
> list of examples, see the Oxford Dictionary blog at
> http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2016/02/words-that-sound-rude/
>
> I presume that I'm entitled to be complain when they are used in email list
> exchanges, even when those exchanges are being conducted primarily in those
> other languages?
>
> Returning now to the subject of the thread, I have no problem with Gerard's
> posts, even if I have not always found them easy to understand, and see no
> special reason to restrict his access to this list.
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
>
> > Same in French...
> >
> >
> > Le 13/02/2017 à 12:35, John Erling Blad a écrit :
> >
> >> It is common to refer to those that cooperated with the Nazis during
> WWII
> >> as "kollaboratører" (kollaborators) in Norwegian too.
> >> https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kollaborat%C3%B8r
> >>
> >> Translating between languages are fun! =)
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> 13. feb. 2017 09.08 skrev "Jane Darnell" :
> >>
> >> … The only disrespectful
> >> thing I could find in his recent edits was his remark that he is not a
> >> collaborator because his cultural heritage assumes "collaborators" are
> >> "nazis", which is offensive in English. I would like to point out here
> >> that
> >> the word collaborator really does mean nazi in Dutch. It's one of many
> >> translation challenges, so there is even a Wikipedia article that spells
> >> it
> >> all out:
> >> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboratie
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[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So:

I have now placed Gerard Meijssen on moderation.  He has been posting very
frequently to the list, far exceeding the requested "soft limit" of 30
posts per month, and has exhibited disrespectful discourse.

I encourage Gerard to revise his approach to communicating on this list.
He will be unmoderated next month.

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