[Wikimedia-l] Re: Invitation to join the Movement Strategy Forum

2022-08-21 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 4:43 AM Gnangarra  wrote:

> Percentages look good, and show some comparison but the reality is the
> actual raw number say just as much when meta has 4600 and formun has less
> than 200  and without staff less than 150 its not exactly a like for like
> engagement.
>

"Meta has 4600 and forum has less than 200", you say.  4600 what, though?
That number is the number of "Active users", meaning people who make
edits.

However, comparing the 4600 active users of Meta to the 200 active[1] users
is not comparing like with like: on Meta, edits are made on hundreds of
different topics, from requests for permissions through learning patterns,
global abuse investigations, to grant proposals and discussions. *And very
little discussion of Movement Strategy*. In other words, a very small
proportion (what proportion exactly, I don't have the means to ascertain)
of the 4600 active users of Meta are engaged in Movement Strategy, so the
number 4600 represents nothing relevant to this discussion. The Forum, on
the other hand, is dedicated to Movement Strategy discussion, so a large
number of the 200 active users are in fact discussing Movement Strategy.
(Personally I would like the Forum to be even more focused on Movement
Strategy and to discourage content-free "social" posts, but I am not
involved with the Forum's governance.)

In other words, I suggest that those of you determined to only discuss
Movement Strategy on Meta *do more of that*, to lead by example. It is
within your power to move the critical mass of active discussion of
Movement Strategy and the liveliest proposals and plans to Meta. Remember
that it is *as a response* to the difficulty[2] of gaining traction for
Movement Strategy conversations that the Forum was created.

Asaf
(personal opinion)

[1] I think discounting staff engaging on the Forum is a mistake.  Staff is
also engaging on Meta, yet is included in the 4600 figure.  I am guessing
more staff engage on the Forum, by design, but surely that engagement is a
good thing, as it is on Meta.

[2] that difficulty is certainly not solely due to the technology of Meta;
there were other factors dampening engagement about Movement Strategy, some
of them, I daresay, the fault of the Foundation.  But Meta's shortcomings
as a venue *are* indicated in surveys as a major reason people aren't
engaging in conversation about Movement Strategy, so the Foundation acted
on that input.  Again, you can demonstrate that that reason is *not* a
significant factor by creating and participating in lively Movement
Strategy discussions on Meta.

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Indonesia's new board & 2021 report

2022-07-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you for this update, and congratulations to all!

It's great to see many Wikimedians who joined the movement more recently
serving on the board of executives!  I think it demonstrates maturity,
community health, and continuity that Wikimedia Indonesia has been able to
achieve this.

Best wishes and much success in your endeavors!

   A.

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On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 11:08 PM Rachmat W. 
wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> As you may know, Biyanto (Chair of WMID 2016–2021) has officially
> announced his departure from Wikimedia Indonesia a few weeks ago. We are
> very much appreciate for his valuable contributions to WMID over the past
> six years and making WMID even better and being able to work and
> collaborate with some of you.
>
> In my email, I would like to update you on some changes from our side,
> such as the organizational structure changes (board of executives and board
> of trustees) and the 2021 organizational report.
>
> In February 2022, WMID held a General Meeting of Members to elect the
> Chair and Board of Trustees. A total of 42 members of the meeting attended
> and elected the Chair and Board of Trustees to serve for three years until
> 2024.
>
> Wikimedia Indonesia Board of Executives for 2022–2024
> <https://id.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dewan_Pengurus_2022%E2%80%932024> are as
> follows:
>
>- Rachmat, as elected Chair. Rachmat is a member of WMID and
>Wikimedian since 2012. Previously served as Deputy Treasurer (2016–2018)
>and General Secretary (2019–2021).
>- Hillun, as General Secretary (appointed). She is a Wikipedian since
>2014 and member of WMID since 2015. Previously served as Deputy General
>Secretary (2019–2021).
>- Hardiansyah, as Deputy General Secretary (appointed). He is a
>Wikimedian since 2015 and member of WMID since 2017.
>- Fajarwati, as Treasurer (appointed). She is a Wikipedian since 2016
>and member of WMID since 2017. Previously served as member of Board of
>Trustees (2019–2021).
>- Thirza, as Deputy Treasurer (appointed). She is a Wikipedian and
>member of WMID since 2017. Served as Deputy Treasurer (2019–2021).
>
> We also have new Board of Trustees who serve for the period of 2022–2024
> <https://id.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dewan_Pengawas_2022%E2%80%932024>:
>
>- Andri, as Chair of Board of Trustees. He is one of WMID founding
>members and Wikimedian since 2006.
>- Ichsan, as member of Board of Trustees. Also one of the WMID
>founding member and Wikimedian since 2006.
>- Annayu, as member of Board of Trustees. She is a member of WMID
>since 2018.
>- Fachria, as member of Board of Trustees. Served as member of Board
>of Trustees (2019–2021) and member of WMID since 2016.
>- Hendra, as member of Board of Trustees. He served as Deputy
>Treasurer in 2012–2015 and member of WMID since 2011. He is also a
>Wikipedian since 2009.
>
> In the past month, we have already wrapped up the 2021 organizational and
> financial report, which can be accessed here:
> https://id.wikimedia.org/wiki/Laporan_keuangan_2021 (in Indonesian and
> English).
>
> We would also like to extend our sincere gratitude to Ivonne who held the
> position of Deputy Chair (2019-2021) and Djohan who was Treasurer during
> the same term.
>
> This is all the information we wanted to share with all of you. We look
> forward to meeting and chatting with you about what we can work on together.
>
> Teriring salam dan terima kasih,
> Rachmat
>
> ~~~
> *Rachmat W.*
> Ketua Umum (*Chair*), Direktur Proyek (*Project Director*)
> Surat elektronik: rachmat.wah...@wikimedia.or.id
> <https://mailto:rachmat.wah...@wikimedia.or.id> • Akun pengguna: Rachmat
> (WMID) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rachmat_(WMID)>
>
> *Wikimedia Indonesia* • TCC Batavia Tower One, Lt. 6, Jalan K.H. Mas
> Mansyur No. 126, Karet Tengsin, Tanah Abang, Jakarta Pusat, DKI Jakarta
> 10220
> F: /wikimedia.indonesia <https://www.facebook.com/wikimedia.indonesia> •
> T: @wikimediaid <https://twitter.com/wikimediaid> • I: @wikimediaid
> <https://www.instagram.com/wikimediaid> • YT: Wikimedia Indonesia
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_zVwyCWdLIDVtKYrYYZpuQ> • S:
> 3420XbbYlpOojpZm0PKyF6
> <https://open.spotify.com/show/3420XbbYlpOojpZm0PKyF6> • Li: /wikimediaid
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wikimediaid> / /rachmatwahidi
> <https://www.linkedin.co

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Goodbye and see you around

2022-06-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
I agree: happy farewells such as this one should be celebrated.

Thank you for all your dedication and great, constructive work in WMID and
with the international movement.  And Digital Humanities are the best! \o/

   A.

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 7:23 PM Mehrdad Pourzaki 
wrote:

> Echoing others here, it's always such a pleasure to work with you and
> collaborate. Your professionalism, care, and dedication are nothing short
> of exemplary ... even at odd hours in the night. Thank you for going above
> and beyond for your community and for our whole movement.
>
> See you around and all the best in your studies. Terima kasih.
> Mehrdad
>
>
>
>
> *Mehrdad Pourzaki*
> Lead Movement Communications Specialist
> wikimediafoundation.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:06 AM Butch Bustria  wrote:
>
>> Hi Biyanto,
>>
>> Thank you for your great service to the Wikimedia Movement and to the
>> ESEAP community.
>>
>> We wish you all the best in your future endeavors including earning a
>> degree in Sweden.
>>
>> We are in touch with the new leadership in Wikimedia Indonesia and we are
>> happy with the outcome of your transition.
>>
>> I hope you enjoy your stay in Sweden and hope you visit the Swedish
>> community in their social gatherings.
>>
>> We wish you all the best!
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Butch
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2022, 8:02 pm Nicole Ebber, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Biyanto,
>>>
>>> It's been such a joy working, talking, and laughing with you over the
>>> years, and of course especially exciting during our times with
>>> Movement Strategy. Thank you for all the hard work and energy you
>>> dedicated to WMID and to us all as a movement.
>>>
>>> I am glad that you could spend some months after your announcement on
>>> leaving WMID on a smooth transition. And I hope that our paths will
>>> cross again.
>>>
>>> All the best for your future endeavors!
>>> Nicole
>>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 12:00, Biyanto Rebin
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > Tomorrow is my last day working at Wikimedia Indonesia. Goodbye is a
>>> thing that we should celebrate. I am very grateful to have a wonderful
>>> chance to collaborate with my local community, local organisation, and
>>> international community also various chapters and affiliates. I will
>>> continue my volunteering activity while enjoying my next journey as a
>>> master student in Digital Humanities in Uppsala University, Sweden.
>>> >
>>> > In the last 3 months, I have been doing collaboration work with
>>> Rachmat Wahidi, our new Chair of the Board of Executive with his new teams.
>>> I am sure WMID will achieve more in the future under his leadership with a
>>> more diverse team, lots of local communities, strong grass root movement
>>> and continuous support from the local community members, and our presence
>>> in the ESEAP community makes us one of the biggest communities in the
>>> region.
>>> >
>>> > You can always contact me via my personal email (
>>> biyanto.i...@gmail.com).
>>> >
>>> > From one of the sunniest cities in the Southern Hemisphere, Jakarta.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Biyanto
>>> > ___
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nicole Ebber
>>> Director Movement Strategy and Global Relations
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>>> Phone: +49 30 577 11 62-0
>>> https://wikimedia.de
>>>
>>> Keep up to date! Current news and exciting stories about Wikimedia,
>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Important updates about the submitted Wikimania program proposals

2022-06-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thanks for this update.

Where can one look at the submissions already made? The form has a "Would
you like to make this submission public for community feedback?" question,
and presumably at least some session proposers chose "yes".

Thanks,

   A.

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:59 PM Antoni Mtavangu 
wrote:

> Hello Wikimedians!
>
> I hope this email finds you well.
>
> I am writing on behalf of the Wikimania 2022 COT to let you know that;
>
>
>1.
>
>There is a little extra time extension window given *(up to Tuesday
>14th June 2022 mid-night in all timezones)* for all people with open
>program submissions to finalize their proposal.
>2.
>
>If you submitted a Program proposal already, you will receive a
>confirmation email today that will indicate the status of your Program
>proposal and the respective next step to be taken.
>3.
>
>Once the Program proposals are received, they will be published
>publicly  on the Wikimania Wiki page.
>
>
> For more info you can visit the
> <https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships>Wikimania 2022
> Scholarships Diff post
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/05/09/wikimania-2022-grants-and-program-submissions-open/>
> .
>
>
> Thank you and we are looking forward to meeting you all in the Wikimania
> 2022 Festival!
>
> On behalf of Wikimania 2022 COT
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/02/24/announcing-the-wikimania-2022-core-organizing-team/>
> ,
>
> Antoni Mtavangu (He/Him)
>
> Wikimania 2022 COT member
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/02/24/announcing-the-wikimania-2022-core-organizing-team/>
>
>
> Cofounder-Wikimedia Tanzania
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Tanzania>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Free Licenses Outreach Materials – Wikimedia Ukraine needs advice

2022-06-09 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, Pavlo!

Have you looked at the materials here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Bookshelf

Also, the GLAM Newsletter, archived at the link below, has a lot of links
to project descriptions and materials. Scanning it for relevant topics or
kinds of institutions can probably help you find additional resources,
beyond those already curated at the link above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Newsletter

Cheers,

   A.

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On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 7:38 PM Павло Костін 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> My name is Pavlo Kostin, I am an advocacy manager of Wikimedia Ukraine,
> responsible for freedom of panorama advocacy efforts. Due to the start of
> the full-fledged invasion of the Russian Federation, we had to suspend our
> advocacy efforts regarding freedom of panorama in Ukraine. As you can
> imagine, a copyright reform is not the main focus of legislators now, as
> there are more urgent issues related to the ongoing war. Wikimedia Ukraine
> is currently working on making more systemic outreach efforts to get the
> content distributed online by Ukrainian state institutions, museums and
> cultural institutions published under free licenses.
>
> We are sure that such efforts were done by others in the Movement before,
> so we wanted to check if any of them are available to be used as
> inspiration, or maybe only a translation is needed. We would be grateful if
> you can share any materials used for facilitating the transfer of the
> above-listed institutions and partner organizations to free licenses.
>
> Among such materials, there might be the instructions outlining steps
> these institutions should undertake to switch to a relevant license;
> infographics and presentations for representatives of these institutions to
> explain the benefits of free licensing for them; explanatory notes etc.
>
> We would be glad for any piece of information or advice shared so that we
> can use it in our advocacy efforts.
>
> If you want to contact me privately, reach out to
> pavlo.kos...@wikimedia.org.ua
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pavlo Kostin
>
> Advocacy Manager
>
> Wikimedia Ukraine
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Building Partnerships and Identifying and Addressing Harassment Online self-guided courses now available on WikiLearn platform

2022-05-17 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you all for your questions, feedback and excitement about the
WikiLearn platform. We wanted to take this opportunity to provide some
clarity on the choice to utilize an Open edX platform instead of
Wikiversity.

Last year, we led a pilot <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn> to
better understand how to move our once in-person capacity building
experiences online. The goal of the pilot was to ensure we were developing
an optimal learning environment that could deliver live courses, facilitate
peer discussions and provide graded assignments with instructor feedback
for two cohorts of learners. Unfortunately, Wikiversity could not provide
these elements.

Wikiversity is a system for collaborating on creating and sharing
curricula. It is not a learning management system, nor was it ever designed
to be one. It does not support the critical functions necessary for online
learning such as dynamic exercises and assignments, learner tools,
instructor tools (e.g. grading assignments, messaging learners, monitoring
progress), computer-grading, certificates and badges, learner cohorts,
scheduled live sessions, and more.

Wikiversity's greatest strength -- Mediawiki's world-class collaboration
features -- is not a core  priority for online curriculum development
(which in an overwhelming number of cases is the work of a sole or lead
author and one or more known and selected assistants, rather than of peers
collaborating publicly and pseudonymously), and is significantly less
important than any of the above features it lacks.

The WikiLearn platform stewarded by the Community Development team, and
called for by the Skill and Leadership recommendation
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Invest_in_Skills_and_Leadership_Development>
of Movement Strategy, does need to be more than a wiki for developing and
sharing curricula; it needs a learner-centered user experience, human and
computer-automated assessment features and much more. Utilizing Wikiversity
was never a viable option for our programmatic and capacity building goals.

We also acknowledge the sentiment, “why not invest in Wikiversity to
address the shortcomings you have outlined?

Quite simply, we wanted to implement WikiLearn within a year or so, and
utilize the resources the team had to do so. To overhaul the software
running Wikiversity so that it would become a full-blown learning
management system with the features needed would have been a multi-year
undertaking, including research, community consultation, design,
development, testing, etc., and it is not within the mandate of our team to
lead this type of work independently.  Therefore, we prioritized choosing
an existing, tried and true LMS system that is free software as the best
values-aligned path to achieving the goal of an open platform for online
learning.



For the Community Development team,

   Asaf Bartov


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On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 7:57 PM Mike Peel  wrote:

> Ah, OK, so it's not "intended to serve the entire Wikimedia movement!" -
> it's focused on internal Wikimedia training, not external users? I
> missed that, sorry, and thanks for the correction.
>
> It's still quite embarrassing that WMF doesn't like 'dogfooding':
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food
> Particularly when projects like Wikiversity are in dire need of
> technical support, and WMF is putting technical effort into running
> platforms like this rather than putting that effort into improving our
> own projects. Imagine if Google said "to find out how to suggest an edit
> on Google Maps, search on our local installation of Bing for help"?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 13/5/22 00:00:42, Rae Adimer via Wikimedia-l wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > As I understand it, this platform is for curated courses related to
> > editing Wikipedia. Wikiversity has a much wider scope. I don't see a
> > conflict between them.
> >
> > Best,
> > Rae
> >
> > 
> >
> > User:Vermont <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vermont> on
> Wikimedia
> > projects
> > they/them/theirs (why pronouns matter
> > <https://www.mypronouns.org/what-and-why>)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 6:50 PM Mike Peel  > <mailto:em...@mikepeel.net>> wrote:
> >
> > But if WMF is choosing to actively support and develop a new
> > platform for this kind of activity, and continues to not support
> > Wikiversity to do the same

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Building Partnerships and Identifying and Addressing Harassment Online self-guided courses now available on WikiLearn platform

2022-05-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
No. There is no change to Wikiversity. It remains... what it is.

   A.

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On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:24 PM Mike Peel  wrote:

> So ... is that the end of Wikiversity?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 11/5/22 23:50:48, Asaf Bartov wrote:
> > Yes, the platform is intended to serve the entire Wikimedia movement!
> >
> > We plan to pilot with some trusted affiliates first, to iron out kinks
> > and to take our time co-creating governance structures for the platform
> > with the broader community.  Once those are in place, authoring on the
> > platform would become available to all Wikimedians.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > A.
> >
> >
> >
> > Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
> >
> > Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
> >
> > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
> >
> >
> > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
> > in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> > https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:20 PM Samuel Klein  > <mailto:meta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > This is beautiful.  Nice to see Open edX in use.
> > Feels like incentive to package a range of workshops and materials
> > up in a reusable and discoverable way!  Open to WikiEdu + other
> > community courses also?
> >
> > SJ
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:25 PM Cassie Casares
> > mailto:ccasa...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >
> > TheCommunity Development team
> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Development>is
> > pleased to announce the courses that were delivered during the
> > WikiLearn Pilot <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn>are
> > now available for self-guided study on the newWikiLearn platform
> > <https://learn.wiki/>, based on the free software Open edX.
> > <
> https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_campaignid=16772388216_adgroupid=140810411408_adid=562435444795_keyword=edx_keywordid=kwd-89882436_network=g_source=google_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_medium=cpc_term=edx_acc=7245054034_cam=16772388216_grp=140810411408_ad=562435444795_src=g_tgt=kwd-89882436_kw=edx_mt=e_net=adwords_ver=3=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE
> >Open
> > edX
> > <
> https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_campaignid=16772388216_adgroupid=140810411408_adid=562435444795_keyword=edx_keywordid=kwd-89882436_network=g_source=google_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_medium=cpc_term=edx_acc=7245054034_cam=16772388216_grp=140810411408_ad=562435444795_src=g_tgt=kwd-89882436_kw=edx_mt=e_net=adwords_ver=3=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE
> >is
> > a free software learning management system that was started in
> > 2012, and is developed in Python using the Django framework.
> >
> >
> > The platform will host courses developed by Wikimedia Foundation
> > teams on a variety of topics relevant to doing Wikimedia work.
> > The intended audience of the platform is Wikimedia contributors
> > of all kinds, and all you need to access the platform is your
> > existing Wikimedia account. As we continue to evolve some
> > governance mechanisms for the platform, it will  become open for
> > contribution from all Wikimedia contributors.
> >
> >
> > You can access the platform at learn.wiki <https://learn.wiki/>
> >
> >
> > The courses currently available from the Community Development
> > team are:
> >
> >
> >  1.
> >
> > Introduction to Building Partnerships -This course will
> > provide an in-depth curriculum on how to develop meaningful
> > programmatic and organizational partnerships within the
> > movement and with external partners.
> >
> >
> >  2.
> >
> > Addressing Harassment Online - 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Building Partnerships and Identifying and Addressing Harassment Online self-guided courses now available on WikiLearn platform

2022-05-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
Yes, the platform is intended to serve the entire Wikimedia movement!

We plan to pilot with some trusted affiliates first, to iron out kinks and
to take our time co-creating governance structures for the platform with
the broader community.  Once those are in place, authoring on the platform
would become available to all Wikimedians.

Cheers,

   A.

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On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:20 PM Samuel Klein  wrote:

> This is beautiful.  Nice to see Open edX in use.
> Feels like incentive to package a range of workshops and materials up in a
> reusable and discoverable way!  Open to WikiEdu + other community courses
> also?
>
> SJ
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:25 PM Cassie Casares 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> The Community Development team
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Development> is pleased to
>> announce the courses that were delivered during the WikiLearn Pilot
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn> are now available for
>> self-guided study on the new WikiLearn platform <https://learn.wiki/>,
>> based on the free software Open edX.
>> <https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_campaignid=16772388216_adgroupid=140810411408_adid=562435444795_keyword=edx_keywordid=kwd-89882436_network=g_source=google_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_medium=cpc_term=edx_acc=7245054034_cam=16772388216_grp=140810411408_ad=562435444795_src=g_tgt=kwd-89882436_kw=edx_mt=e_net=adwords_ver=3=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE>
>> Open edX
>> <https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_campaignid=16772388216_adgroupid=140810411408_adid=562435444795_keyword=edx_keywordid=kwd-89882436_network=g_source=google_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas_medium=cpc_term=edx_acc=7245054034_cam=16772388216_grp=140810411408_ad=562435444795_src=g_tgt=kwd-89882436_kw=edx_mt=e_net=adwords_ver=3=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE>
>> is a free software learning management system that was started in 2012, and
>> is developed in Python using the Django framework.
>>
>> The platform will host courses developed by Wikimedia Foundation teams on
>> a variety of topics relevant to doing Wikimedia work. The intended audience
>> of the platform is Wikimedia contributors of all kinds, and all you need to
>> access the platform is your existing Wikimedia account. As we continue
>> to evolve some governance mechanisms for the platform, it will  become open
>> for contribution from all Wikimedia contributors.
>>
>> You can access the platform at learn.wiki  <https://learn.wiki/>
>>
>> The courses currently available from the Community Development team are:
>>
>>
>>1.
>>
>>Introduction to Building Partnerships - This course will provide an
>>in-depth curriculum on how to develop meaningful programmatic and
>>organizational partnerships within the movement and with external 
>> partners.
>>
>>
>>
>>1.
>>
>>Addressing Harassment Online - This short, introductory course will
>>focus on developing skills that will help volunteers empathetically 
>> respond
>>to online harassment.
>>
>>
>> These courses are self-paced and graded by the original instructors of
>> the live course. A computer graded version of these courses will be
>> available shortly. The current courses are published in English with
>> potential translation possible in FY 22-23
>>
>>
>> Please note that the self-paced/human-graded format will return marked
>> assignments on a bi-weekly/monthly basis depending on capacity.
>>
>> Each course has been adapted from its original live format to be suitable
>> for self-paced study. The Identifying and Addressing Harassment course
>> was authored and taught by Simona Ramkisson
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SRamkisson_(WMF)>.  The Introduction
>> to Partnership Building course was authored and taught by Asaf Bartov
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)>.
>>
>> All Wikimedians with an active Wikimedia account can login to the
>> WikiLearn platform using their Wikimedia identity (OAuth) without needing a
>> separate account.
>>
>> If you hav

[Wikimedia-l] Register for Let's Connect

2022-04-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi Everyone,

I am posting a message on behalf of Justice Okai-Allotey, because it did
not make it through to the list for technical reasons.

   Asaf


The Community Resources team and the Let’s Connect Working Group are
excited to announce the launch of the Peer Learning Program – Let’s Connect
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and for building capacities through knowledge sharing amongst community
members (peers) in a way that promotes collaboration and
people-centeredness.

Let's Connect is bringing you monthly learning clinics and one-on-one
matches around various subjects in the Wikimedia movement. This program is
carefully created with the involvement of community members scattered all
over the various regions in the Wikimedia Movement. The programs can be
based on both regional and cross-regional connections.

Do you want to join? You can register to be a part of the “Let’s Connect”
through this form . We will use this
information to match you with others and invite you to learning clinics!

To reach out to anyone on the working group or the WMF concerning “Let’s
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can send an email to the Working Group at letsconnectt...@wikimedia.org.

We look forward to engaging with the wonderful Wikimedia movement and we
thank our working group, WMF and Wikimedians across the world for making
sure these programs come to life.

Thank You.

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Request to Unsubscribe from Wikipedia list

2022-03-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
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For future reference and as a reminder for other subscribers who may wish
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Indonesia AGM

2022-02-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you!  I missed the notice at the top of [[m:Reports]] because I
immediately searched out of habit. :)

   A.

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Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>

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On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:16 PM Biyanto Rebin 
wrote:

> Dear Asaf,
>
> That's an old page. You can find in here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Affiliates_Data_Portal/Reports
>
> Or here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia#Reports
>
> Best,
> Biyanto
>
>
> Pada tanggal Rab, 23 Feb 2022 pukul 02.12 João Alexandre Peschanski <
> joa...@wmnobrasil.org> menulis:
>
>> Hey Asaf. I think the link you have provided is outdated. Reports are now
>> kept at [[m:WADP]]. Cheers, João
>>
>> Em ter., 22 de fev. de 2022 às 16:05, Asaf Bartov 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Congratulations to the new Boards of WMID!
>>>
>>> This made me want to catch up on WMID's activities, but I am not finding
>>> an up-to-date activity report in [[m:Reports]].  Is it somewhere else?
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>>
>>> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>>
>>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
>>> in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>>> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:44 AM Biyanto Rebin <
>>> biyanto.re...@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to inform you that Wikimedia Indonesia has been
>>>> successfully holding annual general meetings in a hybrid event. On 19
>>>> February, our AGM elected a new Chair of the Board of Executive, @Rachmat
>>>> Wahidi . Rachmat has been involved in
>>>> Wikimedia Indonesia since 2014. He has been a very useful and kind-hearted
>>>> person for all of us in Wikimedia Indonesia.
>>>>
>>>> Beside the new chair, we elected the new board of trustees as well.
>>>> * Ichsan Mochtar,
>>>> * Annisa Ayu Maharani,
>>>> * Andri Humardhani,
>>>> * Hendra Prastiawan, and
>>>> * Fachria Marasabessy. (re-elected)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to our previous Board of Executives (Ivonne Kristiani, Hillun
>>>> Vilayl Napis, Thirza Ria Vandari, Djohan Hasibuan) and Board of Trustees
>>>> (Rinto Jio, Fachria Marassabessy, Fajarwati).
>>>>
>>>> We hope this new change can bring a more hopeful future for WMID.
>>>> I will still be around Wikimedia Indonesia until June 2020, to make
>>>> sure the transition is going smoothly. :)
>>>>
>>>> For Affiliates and Chairperson mailinglist's admin, please help to
>>>> remove me and add Rachmat for future communication.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Biyanto Rebin
>>>>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Indonesia AGM

2022-02-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations to the new Boards of WMID!

This made me want to catch up on WMID's activities, but I am not finding an
up-to-date activity report in [[m:Reports]].  Is it somewhere else?

A.

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On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:44 AM Biyanto Rebin 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I would like to inform you that Wikimedia Indonesia has been
> successfully holding annual general meetings in a hybrid event. On 19
> February, our AGM elected a new Chair of the Board of Executive, @Rachmat
> Wahidi . Rachmat has been involved in
> Wikimedia Indonesia since 2014. He has been a very useful and kind-hearted
> person for all of us in Wikimedia Indonesia.
>
> Beside the new chair, we elected the new board of trustees as well.
> * Ichsan Mochtar,
> * Annisa Ayu Maharani,
> * Andri Humardhani,
> * Hendra Prastiawan, and
> * Fachria Marasabessy. (re-elected)
>
> Thanks to our previous Board of Executives (Ivonne Kristiani, Hillun
> Vilayl Napis, Thirza Ria Vandari, Djohan Hasibuan) and Board of Trustees
> (Rinto Jio, Fachria Marassabessy, Fajarwati).
>
> We hope this new change can bring a more hopeful future for WMID.
> I will still be around Wikimedia Indonesia until June 2020, to make sure
> the transition is going smoothly. :)
>
> For Affiliates and Chairperson mailinglist's admin, please help to remove
> me and add Rachmat for future communication.
>
> Best,
> Biyanto Rebin
>
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[Wikimedia-l] WikiLearn pilot year report published

2022-01-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The Community Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation has been
thinking about an online learning platform for several years now. The onset
of the COVID-19 pandemic has focused us more strongly on building such a
platform to support learning and knowledge sharing across the movement, and
in early 2021, the team piloted <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn>[1]
hosting two online courses using the Moodle platform.

We have now published a report
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn/Pilot_report>[2] about that
pilot program, with a description of the rationale, design considerations,
curriculum structure, and both learners' and our own evaluations of how it
went. The report concludes with a series of recommended next steps.  The
team is actively pursuing those next steps, and they are going to be
submitted by the team in the upcoming annual plan process for the
Foundation's next fiscal year.

We invite you to read the report and ask any questions on the talk page. If
you are interested in taking part in teaching using this online learning
platform, please get in touch with the team by email to
comdevt...@wikimedia.org and tell us a bit about your plans, your subjects,
and your expected audience.

With best wishes for a healthy and productive 2022,

   Community Development team

   Wikimedia Foundation

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn

[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn/Pilot_report


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
Yes, I did not purport to offer an easy solution.  I tried to clarify *what
needs to happen* for significant progress on these issues, without
suggesting that it is easy to make that happen.

As I mentioned, a new CEO is beginning work this week, and one of the
(many) items on her to-do list is to improve and rationalize the
Foundation's annual planning process, and cross-departmental planning and
decision-making.  Let's give her some time and wait for some guidance on
this question of venue, i.e. how and where communities may *effectively*
express needs and affect priorities.

In the meantime, I repeat my suggestion that adding non-technical concise
statements of impact to each issue would be a big help.  For example, I
(and many of you) know the impact of our slow/broken video conversion and
upload workflows, but it would be helpful to add to SJ's "*Bulk conversion* for
video uploads (videoconverter / video2commons are broken)" an
impact statement such as "this is deterring video uploads from casual
contributors".

Cheers,

   A.
   (volunteer capacity)

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 10:45 PM Samuel Klein  wrote:

> I appreciate all of the comments; still unsure where to more persistently
> host the conversation, but for now I posted this still-arbitrary list on
> Commons <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sj/multimedia>.  (adding
> other items mentioned in this thread)  SJ
>
> 
> - *File formats*: Support high-demand formats – e.g. CSV, CML
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18491>, + hundreds of other
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297514> open tickets
> - *Uploads*:  Improve bulk, large, and video uploads.
>+ *Bulk conversion* for video uploads (videoconverter /
> video2commons are broken)
>+ *Upload Wizard* upgrades (timeouts
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267492>, batch renaming, batch imports
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281599>)
> - *Downloads*:  Fix multi-download (Imker
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Imker_(batch_download)> is
> broken)
>+ Make public dumps <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298394> (stale
> since 2013)
> - *Video playback*:  Debug + roll out the videojs
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248418> player
> - *Search*:  Bring CQS back up <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297454>.
> Implement a noauth option <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297995> for
> tools
> - *General*: Move to a blazegraph alternative (for wqcs)
>+ *Images*: Update thumbor <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216815>
>  and librsvg <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193352>  ||  redesign
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28741> the image table
> *- Curation*: Simpler content assessment workflow, like en:wp's
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_assessment> (QI/VP
> doesn't scale)
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Writing in my volunteer capacity:

On Sat, 1 Jan 2022, 08:43 Amir Sarabadani  wrote:


Honestly, the situation is more dire than you think. For example, until a
couple months ago, we didn't have backups for the media files. There was a
live copy in the secondary datacenter but for example if due to a software
issue, we lost some files, they were gone. I would like to thank Jaime
Crespo for pushing for it and implementing the backups.

But I beat my drum again, it's not something you can fix overnight. I'm
sure people are monitoring this mailing list and are aware of the problem.


[My goal in this post is to ficus effort and reduce frustration.]

Yes, people reading here are aware, and absolutely none of them expects
this (i.e. multimedia technical debt and missing features) to be fixed
overnight.

What's lacking, as you pointed out, is ownership of the problem.  To own
the problem, one must have *both* technical understanding of the issues
*and* a mandate to devote resources to addressing them.

It is this *combination* that we don't have at the moment. Lots of
technical people are aware, and some of them quite willing to work toward
addressing the issues, but they are not empowered to set priorities and
commit resources for an effort of that scale, and the problems, for the
most part, don't easily lend themselves to volunteer development.

It seems to me there are *very few* people who could change status quo, not
much more than a handful: the Foundation's executive leadership (in its
annual planning work, coming up this first quarter of 2022), and the Board
of Trustees.

Therefore, the greatest contribution the rest of us could make toward
seeing this work get resourced is to help make the case to the executives
(including the new CEO, just entering the role) with clear and compelling
illustrations of the *mission impact* of such investment. In parallel,
interested engineers and middle managers could help by offering rough
effort estimates for some components, a roadmap, an overview of
alternatives considered and a rationale for a recommended approach, etc.

But this would all be preparatory and supporting work toward *a resourcing
decision* being made. So long as such a decision isn't made, no significant
work on this can happen.

Finally, while it is easy to agree that *this* is necessary and useful on
its own, to actual resource it in the coming annual plan it would be
necessary to argue that it is *more* useful and necessary than some *other*
work, itself also necessary and useful.

Another thing that may help is being explicit about just how important this
is, even literally saying things like "this would have far more impact on
our X goal than initiative A, B, or C", naming actual resourced or
potentially resourced things. It is sometimes difficult for managers who
aren't practicing Wikimedia volunteers to assess just how necessary
different necessary things are, from different community perspectives.

And of course, one such opinion, or a handful, would not be a solid base
for resourcing decisions, so perhaps a large-scale ranking survey of some
sort would be helpful, as SJ implicitly suggested in the original post.

Cheers,

A.
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[Wikimedia-l] Additional admins appointed for this list

2021-11-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedia-l subscribers,

I write to inform you that additional volunteers have been recruited to
co-admin this mailing list.

The new admins are all longtime, trusted volunteers. They are, in
alphabetical order:





** Butch Bustria * João Alexandre Peschanski (User:Joalpe)* Ravishankar
Ayyakkannu (User:Ravidreams)* Risker/Anne*
They join existing admins *Shani Evenstein Sigalov* (User:Esh77 and
User:Shani (WMF)) and *Asaf Bartov* (User:Ijon and User:Asaf (WMF)).  *John
Vandenberg* is no longer an admin of the list.

We believe that  the larger admin team will  both improve response times
when messages need to be released from moderation, as well as diversify the
perspectives when reviewing alleged or actual misconduct and dealing with
spirited or controversial discussions, without the sense WMF has too much
control over the list.

That's the end of the announcement, but recognizing there may be some
questions, we try to answer some below.  If you have no questions, you can
stop reading here. :)

Asaf Bartov (volunteer capacity)
on behalf of the Wikimedia-l list admins


*Questions and Answers:*


*Q: Why add admins?*A: For a long time now, John Vandenberg has not been
active in list administration, and has not responded to multiple requests
to re-engage. This left list-administration to Shani and Asaf.  Asaf is WMF
staff, and Shani, though a volunteer when appointed list admin, has since
become a WMF Trustee.

Shani and Asaf both feel it would be better if the list management is not
dominated by people so closely associated with the Wikimedia Foundation.
Although they are both administering the list in their volunteer capacities
and are carefully avoiding acting in a conflict of interest, they want to
reduce even the potential appearance of such conflict.

Indeed, they have tolerated behaviors on the list that probably shouldn't
have been tolerated, only because they coincided with criticism of an
action of the Wikimedia Foundation, and they did not want to be suspected
of attempting to silence criticism.  Both Shani and Asaf strongly believe
in criticism, including of the Foundation, and would never seek to silence
civil criticism.


*Q: What happened to John?*A: We don't know. We trust he is doing okay, and
just lost interest in this form of volunteering.


*Q: Why now?*A: There's no specific trigger beyond the situation mentioned
above, and no urgency.  We have been meaning to do this for long months
now. But work and other volunteer commitments kept getting priority over
figuring out how to recruit new admins. Until one day we finally did, and
here we are.


*Q: How were the new admins selected?*A: In the same way Wikimedia-l
adminships have always been handled, and the way we were appointed
ourselves: the current admins reach out to some trusted volunteers seen to
have good judgment and an appropriate temperament for administering this
list, and offer them to join as co-admins. Some say no; eventually enough
people say yes to fill the number of slots we want to recruit, and we
proceed.


*Q: So it's basically just people Shani and Asaf like?*A: No. It's people
Shani and Asaf consider to meet the criteria mentioned in the previous
answer. There are people we like who don't. :) And we strove to invite
volunteers from different regions of the world, different kinds of
volunteer experience, and to preserve a good gender ratio. Some people we
sought to recruit have turned the thankless role down.


*Q: Still, it's quite a subjective way to pick admins, isn't it?*A: Yes, it
definitely is subjective. Again, it has always been so, and it seems to us
it has worked fairly well so far. It certainly seems to us to beat
potentially exhausting community elections to elect admins, with the
well-known weaknesses of the "popularity contest" effect, and the
un-guaranteed fitness-to-the-role elections bring. We understand some
people would have preferred to see elections despite that.

One way to reduce the personal bias in future rounds might be to curate a
public list of interested volunteers. We have just started one, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia-l#Volunteers_interested_in_administering_the_list
Feel free to express interest, and you will be considered next time admins
are recruited for the list, probably in a couple of years.


*Q: Where's the catch?*A: There is no catch. This is a routine
administrative refreshing of the ranks, solving a non-critical but
undesirable situation that has been the case for a while, and is an obvious
net improvement in our opinion. We hope it is in yours, too.


*Q: Are there any changes to list policies?*A: None at this time, no. Any
future changes will be discussed among all admins.

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Locking mailing list threads

2021-10-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
Good to know, thank you!

   A.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:01 AM Kunal Mehta  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 10/26/21 4:41 PM, Risker wrote:
> > It is unfortunate that the software doesn't permit locking of threads.
>
> It does :) A list admin can set a header filter of "Subject" matching
> whatever thread's subject, and choose either to hold for moderation,
> discard (no notification), or reject (with notification) all emails that
> match.
>
> HTH,
> -- Kunal
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:56 PM Todd Allen  wrote:

> That "strategy" crap is from WMF, not the communities, and matters not one
> bit.
>

You will not refer to hundreds of other people's hard work as "crap" on
this list, Todd.  You have been placed on moderation.  You are welcome to
continue contributing to the list, including -- I stress this -- expressing
criticism of the Strategy and of the Wikimedia Foundation -- but only if
you manage to do it in a civil and respectful tone.

On behalf of the list admins,

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[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice: hillbillyholiday

2021-08-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The pseudonymous list subscriber "hillbillyholiday" is on moderation.

This is an opportunity to re-iterate that the Universal Code of Conduct[1]
applies to all Wikimedia spaces, including mailing lists hosted on the
Wikimedia servers, like this one.  Asserting, even indirectly ("anyone")
that one's interlocutor is a Nazi, violates the UCoC, and will not be
tolerated.

Long-time subscribers know we tolerate a lot of criticism of projects,
plans, and opinions on this list -- even *unfounded* criticism -- provided
it is *civil* and compliant with behavior expectations.

Please refrain from further violations of the UCoC, but by all means
continue to disagree with each other and to express criticism.

   Asaf Bartov, list admin (volunteer role)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedians of North American Indigenous Languages User Group

2021-07-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Amqui!

I am interested to hear about Wikimedia Canada's and the Atikamekw
community's (2 active editors last month) views on the *readership* of this
young Wikipedia.

Looking at these stats[1], it seems this Wikipedia is essentially read
mostly by the people who write it, and by search engine spiders indexing
its pages and other mechanized processes (assuming there aren't a lot of
Atikamekw speakers in Korea).  I am interested to learn about your (pl.)
plans for getting this knowledge actually used by Atikamekw speakers,
moving the project beyond a language-preservation exercise.  (I think
language-preservation is great and worthwhile, but I also think there are
better vessels for it than encyclopedia-writing.)

Cheers,

A.


[1]
https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/atj.wikipedia.org/reading/top-viewed-articles/normal|table|last-month|(access)~desktop*mobile-app*mobile-web|monthly

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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:05 PM Jean-Philippe Béland 
wrote:

> Good day,
>
> This is a notice that the 2020 annual activity report of the Wikimedians
> of North American Indigenous Languages User Group was posted on Meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_North_American_Indigenous_Languages_User_Group/Reports/2020
>
> Please do not hesitate to reach me if you have any questions, comments or
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> User:Amqui
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing The New Grants Strategy for the Wikimedia Foundation

2021-07-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
The call links were listed in the "Get involved" page (4th link in the
original post).  Here it is again:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/Grants_Strategy_Relaunch_2020-2021/Get_involved#Office_hours

   A.

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On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mardetanha 
wrote:

> Can you let us know where the office hours will be held? I don't see any
> zoom or google meet links provided.
>
>
> Mardetanha
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 1:00 AM Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> Thank you for the update. Currently, I am trying to understand all the
>> information provided in the pages.
>> I have started preparing a mapping-table for personal understanding,
>> might be of some help:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tRSolGdZ0k9CcTQgfUSCHk1Ypp1iPTTDFnn5WrINp4E/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Could you kindly point out what is changing or what's new in each
>> category?
>> It would also be good to see more details on the Research and Tech grant
>> and Alliance Grant?
>>
>> Thanks for the update once again.
>> ইতি,/With regards,
>> টিটো দত্ত/User:Titodutta
>> (মাতৃভাষা থাক জীবন জুড়ে)
>>
>>
>> শুক্র, ১৬ জুলাই, ২০২১ তারিখে ২:৪৭ AM টায় এ Kassia Echavarri-Queen <
>> kechavarriqu...@wikimedia.org> লিখেছেন:
>>
>>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>>
>>> The Community Resources team is excited to announce on Diff
>>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/07/15/community-resources-announces-new-funding-strategy/>
>>> the launch of the new Wikimedia funding strategy focused on decentralized
>>> decision-making, regional committees and reaching underrepresented
>>> communities [1]. Over the last 10 months we have worked together with
>>> communities to discuss, understand and develop an approach that addresses
>>> their needs and moves us towards the realization of the 2030 strategic
>>> direction [2]. Thank you for all of your participation to make this a
>>> reality.
>>>
>>> The three new funding programs:
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia Community Fund
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>The Community Fund is a unified program with flexible support and
>>>funding for Wikimedians working on knowledge equity aligned with the
>>>movement’s strategic direction.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia Alliances Fund
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>The Alliances Fund, for mission-aligned organizations in
>>>underrepresented communities who want to collaborate and amplify our 
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia Research and Technology Fund
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>The Research and Technology Fund for improving technology, tools,
>>>and research to nurture a more responsive and accessible environment for
>>>contributions.
>>>
>>>
>>> This people-centred approach is built on the principles of equity &
>>> empowerment, collaboration & cooperation, and the promotion of innovation
>>> and learning.
>>>
>>> Our team has also adapted to provide consistent regional support and the
>>> establishment of a learning mindset for the funding approach. We know this
>>> is just the beginning and it will be an iterative process. As we implement
>>> and learn we will adapt. We also understand the worldwide impact of the
>>> continuing COVID pandemic and our first priority is to be in solidarity and
>>> have flexibility with communities around the world.
>>>
>>> The three programs will be introduced in a phased approach throughout
>>> the year. We will first launch with the Wikimedia Community Fund now in
>>> July. We invite you to learn more about the programs on our meta page [3].
>>>
>>> We have hosted a series of office hours throughout June and July [4] and
>>> will continue in the coming weeks to discuss the new programs. Each program
>>> officer is also reaching out and answering questions with individual
>>> grantees as part of the transition process.
>>>
>>> Office Hours:
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>03:00 UTC – 2021-07-23 (Asia-Pacific friendly time)
>>>-
>>>
>>>18:00 UTC – 2021

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Clinics: new digest and two upcoming calls

2021-05-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

A reminder that we have a Wikimedia Clinic[0] in an hour (*May 10th at 4pm
UTC*) featuring a presentation about the Wikimedia Enterprise
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise>[1] project. Meeting
link <https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby>[2].  As always, any other
Wikimedia topic would be welcome as well after the presentation and Q!

   A.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise
[2] https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby

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On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:29 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> Following a three-month hiatus since Wikimedia Clinic #012, we have now
> scheduled the next two Wikimedia Clinic
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics>[1] calls, as follows:
> 1. *May 4th at 6pm UTC*, featuring a presentation about Structured Data
> Across Wikimedia
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia>
> [2] (SDAW). Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag>[3].
> 2. *May 10th at 4pm UTC*, featuring a presentation about the Wikimedia
> Enterprise <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise>[4]
> project. Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby>[5].
>
> The *digest* from Wikimedia Clinic #012
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/012>[6], which
> featured a presentation from the Foundation's Growth team, has now been
> posted too.
>
> Please help spread the word to your local communities.
>
> See you there!
>
> A.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia
> [3] https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise
> [5] https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby
> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/012
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinics: new digest and two upcoming calls

2021-05-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
A quick reminder that Wikimedia Clinic #013 will take place today at 6pm
UTC, featuring a presentation about Structured Data Across Wikimedia
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia>[1] (SDAW).
This is the Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag>[2].

Everyone is invited, and following the presentation and Q, there will be
down to bring up any other Wikimedia topic you'd like.

   A.

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia
[2] https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag

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On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:29 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> Following a three-month hiatus since Wikimedia Clinic #012, we have now
> scheduled the next two Wikimedia Clinic
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics>[1] calls, as follows:
> 1. *May 4th at 6pm UTC*, featuring a presentation about Structured Data
> Across Wikimedia
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia>
> [2] (SDAW). Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag>[3].
> 2. *May 10th at 4pm UTC*, featuring a presentation about the Wikimedia
> Enterprise <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise>[4]
> project. Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby>[5].
>
> The *digest* from Wikimedia Clinic #012
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/012>[6], which
> featured a presentation from the Foundation's Growth team, has now been
> posted too.
>
> Please help spread the word to your local communities.
>
> See you there!
>
> A.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia
> [3] https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise
> [5] https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby
> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/012
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinics: new digest and two upcoming calls

2021-04-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

Following a three-month hiatus since Wikimedia Clinic #012, we have now
scheduled the next two Wikimedia Clinic
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics>[1] calls, as follows:
1. *May 4th at 6pm UTC*, featuring a presentation about Structured Data
Across Wikimedia
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia>
[2] (SDAW). Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag>[3].
2. *May 10th at 4pm UTC*, featuring a presentation about the Wikimedia
Enterprise <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise>[4]
project. Meeting link <https://meet.google.com/tab-uvtx-oby>[5].

The *digest* from Wikimedia Clinic #012
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/012>[6], which featured
a presentation from the Foundation's Growth team, has now been posted too.

Please help spread the word to your local communities.

See you there!

A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_data_across_Wikimedia
[3] https://meet.google.com/cto-ckau-jag
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise
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[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/012

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Surveys using third party tools on Wikimedia projects

2021-02-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
That tool was Limesurvey.

   A.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:59 Philippe Beaudette  wrote:

> I would also like to add a bit of historical context.  Many years ago,
> when I worked at the WMF, we were using a FLOSS survey tool (I don't recall
> which).  We were fairly dependent on it, when one day someone discovered
> that it was vulnerable to sql injection attacks and Tim Starling (I
> believe) rightly killed it on our servers. Shortly after that, we moved
> toward using a non-free tool that was safer and more robust.  I dont recall
> that the two events were connected, but I would be surprised if they
> weren't.
>
> Tim did the right thing then, even though it meant that we were moved off
> a FLOSS solution.  Sometimes "Free" just isn't equal, or better.  Sometimes
> it's an actual honest-to-god security risk and there are reasons why
> WMF's staff aren't using a free alternative to a proprietary tool.  Did
> anyone ask?
>
> Philippe
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:13 AM Risker  wrote:
>
>> To clarify to anyone who doesn't want to read the actual proposal, which
>> Fae did not repeat here:
>>
>> *Proposal*
>>
>> It is proposed that on Wikimedia Commons that there must be no promotion
>> of surveys or questionnaires which rely on third party sites and closed
>> source tools, such as Google Forms. This should be interpreted as a ban
>> against engaging volunteers by mass messaging, use of banners or posts on
>> noticeboards.
>> *Recommended consequential action*
>>
>> Banners and posts which go against this proposal may be removed by
>> anyone.
>>
>> Posting account(s) may be blocked or have group rights removed at the
>> discretion of administrators, such as all rights that enable mass
>> messaging. In a persistent case, blocks and rights removal may apply to all
>> accounts of the person responsible. A rationale of doing their job as
>> part of being a WMF employee is not considered an exemption.
>>
>>
>> Nowthis applies to everyone who posts about a survey at Wikimedia
>> Commons, as this proposal is strictly related to Commons. It is not a
>> global proposal.  However, it would apply to researchers, to WMF staff, to
>> anyone who uses closed-sourced tools.  There is no suggestion at all about
>> suitable alternative tools.  In fact, there is a severe dearth of quality
>> open source tools.  Researchers may be bound by their facilities to use
>> certain types of tools.
>>
>> Surveys and questionnaires are always voluntary. There's some
>> responsibility on the part of the user to read the privacy statements and
>> use of information statements that are normally mandatory for any
>> legitimate surveys.  More than once I've started to participate in a survey
>> and decided it was asking questions I didn't want to answer, and just never
>> saved them.
>>
>>
>> I think it would also be helpful if someone from WMF Technical could take
>> the time to discuss with the broader community what arrangements have been
>> made in their contract with Google to ensure that the information on those
>> documents (of whatever nature) are not in fact accessible to Google for
>> their data gathering or any other purposes.  There is, of course, a certain
>> irony that three of the four people who have commented on this thread so
>> far all have Gmail email addresses.
>>
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 00:24, Gnangarra  wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Fae's proposal if we are using tools that exclude community
>>> members out of safety and privacy concerns then we arent fulfilling the
>>> equity goals. I also recognise that alternatives need to be available but
>>> with no incentive for them to be used then there is no development of such
>>> tools, or improvements to their functionality. Faes proposal is putting the
>>> WMF on notice that there are steps we need to take to ensure equity,
>>> safety, and privacy in participation.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 09:08, Łukasz Garczewski <
>>> lukasz.garczew...@wikimedia.pl> wrote:
>>>
 With respect, Fae, if you're going to propose banning an existing
 solution, it is on you to propose a suitable alternative or at least a
 process to find it before the ban takes effect.

 I write this as a signatory of Free Software Foundation Europe's Public
 Money? Public Code open letter . I
 am wholeheartedly a proponent of open source software.

 At the same time, I am a firm believer in using the best available tool
 for the job.

 Our mission is too important to hold ourselves back at every step due
 to a noble but often unrealistic wish to use open source solutions for
 everything we do.

 Last year, because of my drive to use proper open source solutions,
 WMPL wasted hours and hours of staff time (mostly mine) and a not
 insignificant amount of members' time because:

- Zeus, a widely used, cryptographically secure voting system is
impossible to 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Personal news // ED transition

2021-01-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you for this message, and for your years of service.

I understand this isn't the Big Goodbye thread; I write just to say that I
think this is a great example to set for an executive departure
announcement, and I appreciate it.

Cheers,

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On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 4:52 PM Abraham Taherivand <
abraham.taheriv...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>
>
> Today I am informing you that I will not be renewing my contract with
> Wikimedia Deutschland, which runs until January 2022. This decision was not
> easy for me because Wikimedia has been such an important, even central,
> part of my life in the past nine years. After thorough introspection, I
> feel that this step is the right one for me and for our organisation.
>
>
> This means that a successor will have to be found for the position of the
> Executive Director. The search is managed by our Supervisory Board and me
> with support of an external executive search firm. The search process has
> been well prepared in recent weeks and I am working closely with our board
> on each of the steps.
>
>
> Together, we will ensure a good handover and transition to my successor.
> This point is very important to me, as is the fact that we will continue to
> work without losing focus on achieving our goals, on working with the
> entire movement, and on collaborating very closely on movement strategy
> implementation. That's why I don't want to say a big goodbye right now.
>
>
> What’s next
>
>-
>
>In cooperation with the external executive search firm Kienbaum, we
>have developed a search profile and a job posting that will go online
>shortly.
>-
>
>We strive to have someone on board well before the end of my term in
>January 2022. As we have commenced the procedure so early, we are on a very
>good track.
>
>
>-
>
>I also consider it essential to be available for a comprehensive
>transition and onboarding of a new Executive Director.
>
>
> If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Abraham
>
>
>
> --
>
> Geschäftsführender Vorstand / Executive Director
>
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> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic featuring a presentation from the Growth team

2021-01-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

This is a reminder that *tomorrow, Wednesday, Jan 13th, at 6pm UTC*, we
will have Wikimedia Clinic #012, this time featuring a presentation from
the Wikimedia Foundation's Growth team, on the latest developments and
findings from their work.

The call will be held in English, using *Google Meet*, and the link is
*https://meet.google.com/kdr-ufce-qxh*
<https://meet.google.com/kdr-ufce-qxh>

As in all Clinics, after the presentation (which will include time for
questions and answers), there will be time to bring up *your own topics,
questions, or short presentations*.

For more information about the program, see its Meta page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics>.  You may also be
interested in the recent *retrospective*
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/Retrospective> we
published about the program so far.

See you tomorrow!

   A.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinics retrospective and next Clinic

2020-12-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

As the year draws to a close, the Wikimedia Foundation's Community
Development team took some time to reflect on the Wikimedia Clinics
program, a pilot we created a couple of months into the pandemic.

You can read our retrospective here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/Retrospective

The next Wikimedia Clinic call is scheduled for January 12th at 6pm UTC,
and will feature a short presentation from the Foundation's *Growth*
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth>[1] team with an overview of their
recent work, followed by time for questions, and, as usual, additional time
for bringing up any Wikimedia-related topic on your mind.

See you then!

A.

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Report for JWK

2020-12-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Kipala, for the concise and interesting report!

(As a courtesy to the 1790 list subscribers, in the future please include
the link to the report, to save time on the part of those who may wish to
read it.)

It is here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Jenga_Wikipedia_ya_Kiswahili/Report_2019

Cheers,

   A.

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:35 PM Kipala  wrote:

> Hi everybody
>
> our report 2019-2020 has been uploaded and is available for Jenga
> Wikipedia ya Kiswahili user group.
>
> Cheers
>
> Kipala
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy Rapid Grants

2020-11-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Oh, I should have clarified: I am well aware of the fact data is much more
expensive in many parts of the world!

What I am skeptical about is giving out data packages to people who
*haven't* been involved in discussion and governance so far, with the
expectation that removing the cost barrier would make them contribute to
discussions and governance.

People like you, with an extensive track record of service and
participation in the movement, are clearly valuable to support. (And the US
prohibition on supporting work in Iran is very unfortunate.)

   A.

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Mardetanha 
wrote:

> Dear Asaf, I or my user group are not recipients of such a grant but a
> reliable internet connection could be costly especially if you need a
> reliable connection for video/voice discussion, in the case of Iran, Mobile
> operators offer much much much reliable connection than normal ISPs, the
> speed is up to 20 times more and ping and jitters are far less, me
> personally when I have an online meeting, I move to mobile broadband, so I
> see the logic of such money could increase the participation or at least
> meaningful participation.
>
>
> Mardetanha
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:52 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
>> Do we have good examples of where providing money for a data package
>> resulted in substantive contributions by that person *to discussions* (as
>> distinct from mainspace edits/uploads)?
>>
>> I admit I am skeptical.  But I'm eager to have my mind changed, if there
>> are some successes anyone can point to.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>
>> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>>
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:22 AM Kaarel Vaidla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> @Stella - Thank you for reaching out and asking the question! As it is
>>> rather specific, I will respond and continue this conversation in a private
>>> thread.
>>>
>>> For everyone to note - providing data packages is indeed something we
>>> can do to support participation in the movement strategy online discussions:
>>>
>>>- We are happy to process your request for the group as part of your
>>>Rapid Grant application [1], and
>>>- We will follow-up with you if you have stated the need in the
>>>registration form for global events [2].
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind attention!
>>> Kaarel
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Apply#Movement_Strategy_discussions
>>> [2]
>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSclZkiCaqBDZ-BPEDw0CWOU_mv95MDUa2lY5NHUsvp9MuLEVA/viewform
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 12:04 AM Stella Agbley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Kaarel,
>>>> Please i need your advice, in other to encourage more women
>>>> participation, we were thinking of giving data scholarships/packages of
>>>> $20-$25 to at least Twenty five women(25) who might need it, but the
>>>> problem here is since  most of our participants are in different countries,
>>>> i do not know how to go about it, because if i make the request on their
>>>> behalf i do not know how they will receive it. been racking my brains on it
>>>> before applying for the grant,  and this might be the situation for
>>>> subsequent events, since our membership spans across different countries,
>>>> please can you propose a solution to this for me before the scholarship
>>>> window closes.
>>>> sorry i know this is coming late.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Stella
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:17 PM Kaarel Vaidla 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are announcing the opening of Movement Strategy Rapid Grants [1].
>>>>> The grants are intended to support organizations and project communities 
>>>>> in
>>>>> organizing local, r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy Rapid Grants

2020-11-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Do we have good examples of where providing money for a data package
resulted in substantive contributions by that person *to discussions* (as
distinct from mainspace edits/uploads)?

I admit I am skeptical.  But I'm eager to have my mind changed, if there
are some successes anyone can point to.

   A.

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:22 AM Kaarel Vaidla 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> @Stella - Thank you for reaching out and asking the question! As it is
> rather specific, I will respond and continue this conversation in a private
> thread.
>
> For everyone to note - providing data packages is indeed something we can
> do to support participation in the movement strategy online discussions:
>
>- We are happy to process your request for the group as part of your
>Rapid Grant application [1], and
>- We will follow-up with you if you have stated the need in the
>registration form for global events [2].
>
> Thank you for your kind attention!
> Kaarel
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Apply#Movement_Strategy_discussions
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSclZkiCaqBDZ-BPEDw0CWOU_mv95MDUa2lY5NHUsvp9MuLEVA/viewform
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 12:04 AM Stella Agbley 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Kaarel,
>> Please i need your advice, in other to encourage more women
>> participation, we were thinking of giving data scholarships/packages of
>> $20-$25 to at least Twenty five women(25) who might need it, but the
>> problem here is since  most of our participants are in different countries,
>> i do not know how to go about it, because if i make the request on their
>> behalf i do not know how they will receive it. been racking my brains on it
>> before applying for the grant,  and this might be the situation for
>> subsequent events, since our membership spans across different countries,
>> please can you propose a solution to this for me before the scholarship
>> window closes.
>> sorry i know this is coming late.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Stella
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:17 PM Kaarel Vaidla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We are announcing the opening of Movement Strategy Rapid Grants [1]. The
>>> grants are intended to support organizations and project communities in
>>> organizing local, regional or thematic discussions on Movement Strategy.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the grant is to encourage community participation,
>>> provide the necessary online tools and software, enable facilitation and
>>> documentation for the discussions, and share translated information. Rapid
>>> Grants can support your event plans with a budget up to 2,000 USD, with no
>>> minimum requirement. We are accepting grants between October 26 and
>>> November 12.
>>>
>>> In our global discussions, we often have more participation from
>>> established affiliates and online project communities, and in general from
>>> those who are relatively financially secure to take the time to organize
>>> and participate in events. We hope that this grant program will enable and
>>> support a wider range of organizations and communities to take part in
>>> strategy discussions.
>>>
>>> Grant details
>>>
>>> Scope: For organizing Movement Strategy discussions, for example:
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>to discuss  local, thematic, and regional priorities for
>>>implementation
>>>-
>>>
>>>to prepare for global discussions
>>>
>>>
>>> Examples of items supported by the budget:
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>Translating materials into local languages and back
>>>-
>>>
>>>Contracting someone  to facilitate the calls
>>>-
>>>
>>>Contracting someone  to take excellent notes during the call
>>>-
>>>
>>>Mobile data packages for a reliable connection
>>>
>>>
>>> Reporting requirements:
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>A simple report from the meeting or the list of prioritized
>>>initiatives for implementation.
>>>-
>>>
>>>Receipts or contracts will be needed for reimbursement.
>>>
>>&g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Wikidata Query Service Tutorial

2020-10-21 Thread Asaf Bartov
Wow, what an excellent tutorial!  The detailed outline is really helpful
for people who just want a reminder of syntax, and the embedded queries are
great for trial and error.

I encourage everyone who hasn't yet learned how to query Wikidata to give
this tool a try, and if you speak a language other than English or Hebrew,
to contribute to translating this excellent resource!

Kudos to Wikimedia Israel for the initiative and execution!

   A.

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On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 10:44 PM Revital Poleg 
wrote:

> In 2019 Wikimedia Israel (WMIL) decided to develop instructional material
> for the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS). The background for this decision was
> that we see audiences to whom we introduce Wikidata become especially
> enthusiastic when we present the *Wikidata query service tutorial
> <https://wdqs-tutorial.toolforge.org/> *, which offers quite a
> unique feature within the landscape of information services available
> today. This enthusiasm often dampens when audiences discover that querying
> is not done using natural language but rather requires learning SPARQL.
>
> We believe learning SPARQL is not rocket science, even for audiences with
> no programming background. We created a step-by-step tutorial website to
> give users an introduction and some basic lessons on how to use the query
> service. While WDQS has a great Help section, this section might not be so
> helpful to users who are new to Wikimedia platforms. We therefore built the
> tutorial website on the WordPress platform which has a more familiar design
> to most users. We believe this website will make the WDQS more accessible,
> and hope this will be a way to expand Wikidata to new audiences.
> Currently the site is in English but we are open for collaborations to add
> the tutorial in other languages.
> We are also keen to hear feedback from those involved in Wikidata
> Outreach.
>
> We hope you'll find it useful.
> All the Best
> Revital Poleg
> Executive Director, WMIL
>
> Revital Poleg
>
> Executive Director, WMIL
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Клиника Викимедиа на русском языке / Wikimedia Clinic in Russian

2020-10-20 Thread Asaf Bartov
Дорогие викимедийцы,

Напоминаю, что первый в истории звонок клиники на русском пройдет *сегодня*,
во вторник, 20 октября в 16:00 по Гринвичу (19:00 по Москве). Ссылка на
звонок в Google Meet[1]. Если время вам подходит, присоединяйтесь!

С уважением
Асаф

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:48 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Дорогие викимедийцы,
>
> (этим письмом я приглашаю вас на видеозвонок из серии «Wikimedia Clinic»
> (Клиника Викимедиа) *на русском языке*. Пожалуйста, помогите распространить
> это приглашение всем, кому считаете нужным. Я, наверное, не состою во всех
> релевантных группах и не подписан на все рассылки.)
>
> В это сложное время пандемии и её будущих последствий, человеческий
> контакт с другими викимедийцами, даже по видеозвонку, может быть полезным,
> приятным и весёлым. Это также отличная возможность задать вопросы, которые
> у вас никак не доходили руки задать, или объяснить сложности, которые
> тяжело выразить письменно.
>
> Поэтому, команда по развитию сообществ (Community Development team) Фонда
> Викимедиа экспериментирует с открытыми видеозвонками (используя Google
> Meet), где каждый викимедиец может принять участие, задать вопросы и
> попросить совета по любому проекту или проблеме, с которыми они работают.
>
> Вы также можете просто рассказать над чем вы работаете и попросить
> отзывов, даже если у вас нет конкретных вопросов. Вы можете присоединиться,
> чтобы просто послушать, и возможно ваш опыт позволит ответить на чей-то
> вопрос.
>
> Мы называем эти звонки «Клиника Викимедиа», потому что они работают по
> принципу «приходите с тем, что у вас есть, и мы поможем, как сможем».
> Клиники проходят несколько раз в месяц в разное время, чтобы покрыть разные
> часовые пояса, и на разных языках, чтобы как можно больше людей получили
> возможность поучаствовать.
>
> Каждая такая сессия занимает до 90 минут, и мы гарантируем, что на каждой
> из них будет хотя бы два сотрудника Фонда Викимедиа. Они помогут вам
> получить ответы на ваши вопросы, или на самой клинике, или позже.
>
> После каждого звонка мы составляем краткое *резюме*, в котором описываются
> все темы и включаются ссылки на все инструменты и ресурсы, упомянутые во
> время звонка. Резюме доступно всем заинтересованным волонтерам и будет
> опубликовано на этом канале, а так же на meta[0]. Здесь[1] доступен
> недавний пример.
>
> Эти звонки *не* заменяет существующие каналы или звонки! Все они
> продолжают существовать. Во время клиники не будет никаких важных
> оповещений, поэтому не нужно боятся что-либо пропустить и чувствовать себя
> обязанным участвовать.
>
> Скорее, эти звонки - новая форма живого общения и поддержки, с более
> широким фокусом, чем некоторые существующие каналы (где ожидается общение
> на конкретную тему). Мы надеемся, что клиники будут более доступными для
> людей, не уверенных что их вопрос или проблема подходят для обсуждения в
> других существующих каналах.
>
> Опыт показал, что эти звонки, по большей части проходящие на английском
> или испанском языках, оказались полезными, мы с радостью приглашаем вас на
> звонок по-русски. Мы надеемся в будущем расширить эту практику также и на
> другие языки. Я не говорю по-русски, поэтому во время звонка будут
> присутствовать Пётр Пчелко и Амир Аарони.
>
> Первый в истории звонок клиники на русском пройдет во вторник, 20 октября
> в 16:00 по Гринвичу (19:00 по Москве). Ссылка на звонок в Google Meet[2].
> Если время вам подходит, присоединяйтесь!
>
> На звонке не будет заранее установленной повестки, поэтому никакой
> подготовки не требуется. Присоединяйтесь с любыми вопросами, связанными с
> Викимедией, или просто чтобы хорошо провести время.
>
> Обратная связь и вопросы приветствуются.
>
> С уважением
>
> Асаф
>
> При поддержке Петра и Амира
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/008
>
> [2] https://meet.google.com/tak-pgqx-nwq
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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[Wikimedia-l] Клиника Викимедиа на русском языке / Wikimedia Clinic in Russian

2020-10-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Дорогие викимедийцы,

(этим письмом я приглашаю вас на видеозвонок из серии «Wikimedia Clinic»
(Клиника Викимедиа) *на русском языке*. Пожалуйста, помогите распространить
это приглашение всем, кому считаете нужным. Я, наверное, не состою во всех
релевантных группах и не подписан на все рассылки.)

В это сложное время пандемии и её будущих последствий, человеческий контакт
с другими викимедийцами, даже по видеозвонку, может быть полезным, приятным
и весёлым. Это также отличная возможность задать вопросы, которые у вас
никак не доходили руки задать, или объяснить сложности, которые тяжело
выразить письменно.

Поэтому, команда по развитию сообществ (Community Development team) Фонда
Викимедиа экспериментирует с открытыми видеозвонками (используя Google
Meet), где каждый викимедиец может принять участие, задать вопросы и
попросить совета по любому проекту или проблеме, с которыми они работают.

Вы также можете просто рассказать над чем вы работаете и попросить отзывов,
даже если у вас нет конкретных вопросов. Вы можете присоединиться, чтобы
просто послушать, и возможно ваш опыт позволит ответить на чей-то вопрос.

Мы называем эти звонки «Клиника Викимедиа», потому что они работают по
принципу «приходите с тем, что у вас есть, и мы поможем, как сможем».
Клиники проходят несколько раз в месяц в разное время, чтобы покрыть разные
часовые пояса, и на разных языках, чтобы как можно больше людей получили
возможность поучаствовать.

Каждая такая сессия занимает до 90 минут, и мы гарантируем, что на каждой
из них будет хотя бы два сотрудника Фонда Викимедиа. Они помогут вам
получить ответы на ваши вопросы, или на самой клинике, или позже.

После каждого звонка мы составляем краткое *резюме*, в котором описываются
все темы и включаются ссылки на все инструменты и ресурсы, упомянутые во
время звонка. Резюме доступно всем заинтересованным волонтерам и будет
опубликовано на этом канале, а так же на meta[0]. Здесь[1] доступен
недавний пример.

Эти звонки *не* заменяет существующие каналы или звонки! Все они продолжают
существовать. Во время клиники не будет никаких важных оповещений, поэтому
не нужно боятся что-либо пропустить и чувствовать себя обязанным
участвовать.

Скорее, эти звонки - новая форма живого общения и поддержки, с более
широким фокусом, чем некоторые существующие каналы (где ожидается общение
на конкретную тему). Мы надеемся, что клиники будут более доступными для
людей, не уверенных что их вопрос или проблема подходят для обсуждения в
других существующих каналах.

Опыт показал, что эти звонки, по большей части проходящие на английском или
испанском языках, оказались полезными, мы с радостью приглашаем вас на
звонок по-русски. Мы надеемся в будущем расширить эту практику также и на
другие языки. Я не говорю по-русски, поэтому во время звонка будут
присутствовать Пётр Пчелко и Амир Аарони.

Первый в истории звонок клиники на русском пройдет во вторник, 20 октября в
16:00 по Гринвичу (19:00 по Москве). Ссылка на звонок в Google Meet[2].
Если время вам подходит, присоединяйтесь!

На звонке не будет заранее установленной повестки, поэтому никакой
подготовки не требуется. Присоединяйтесь с любыми вопросами, связанными с
Викимедией, или просто чтобы хорошо провести время.

Обратная связь и вопросы приветствуются.

С уважением

Асаф

При поддержке Петра и Амира

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/008

[2] https://meet.google.com/tak-pgqx-nwq

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric

2020-10-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello.  With my list-moderator hat, I am relaying two messages from Jimmy
Wales, sent from an address he apparently hadn't used before,  that were
unintentionally caught by the mailing list filters and could not be let
through.  I paste them below.

   Asaf

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jimmy Wales 
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 05:12:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation
Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric
On 10/7/20 6:32 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:

The replacement of an explicit voting process with an unspecified process +
schedule seems unnecessarily vague.

I agree that the vagueness is not good.  To make sure everyone is aware:
there has been no discussion and I'm unaware of anyone
on the board who would be in favor of *removing* elections.  I think the
current wording here is awkward and may have been designed
to not be super prescriptive about how exactly we might move to a process
with a community-driven and community-approved "rubric"
combined with elections.  To remedy this defect seems quite easy - a future
revision should explicitly include as much detail as is possible,
and certainly should mandate elections.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jimmy Wales 
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 05:13:08 +0100
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation
Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric
On 10/7/20 10:03 PM, Yair Rand wrote:

(Another minor point: The change from the description of the appointed
seats from "non-community-selected, non-chapter-selected" to
"non-community-sourced" seems to imply that the Board is prohibited from
filling these seats with any community members. Previously, there have been
community members in these seats.)

I think this is a very good "catch".  I'm sure that wasn't the intention of
the rewording.  I didn't
write it and of course I can't speak for anyone else.  I can say that there
has been no discussion
at the board level of anyone suggesting that we should not be able to
select community members
for these seats.

Indeed, my personal view is that as we pursue board expansion, it is
crucial that we try as hard as
we can find to fill the appointed seats with as many deeply experienced
community members (who
have other relevant skills) as we possibly can.

In terms of this proposal, I think that a minor change to clarify this
minor point is a great idea!

I think the ambiguity probably arose with the change from "selected" to
"sourced" - a change that, itself,
deserves great scrutiny.

===

(end of Jimmy's two messages.  Future posts from Jimmy's new address should
go through.)

   Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft schedule of Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2020

2020-09-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Indeed, acronyms are best expanded on first use.  A truly constructive way
to point it out, Mr. During, would have been to model the change you would
like to see yourself.

CEE = Central and Eastern Europe.

A.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:57 PM Dennis During  wrote:

> Would it be unreasonable to ask that a notice to a general mailing list
> from an organizational unit such as CEE actually had the full name of the
> organizational unit?  Even the two linked Meta pages did not contain the
> name. Only the Eventbrite page had it.  Some mailings seem to have wandered
> in from the US DoD or some other country's bureaucracy. It doesn't seem
> unreasonable to me that the opening post for a new thread should not have
> any acronym or initialism, but should have the topical organization, event,
> proposal, or whatever spelled out (Yes, even CoC.). It would seem to me
> that such is a requirement for the kind of inclusiveness we are allegedly
> seeking.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:41 AM Kiril Simeonovski <
> kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to inform you that the draft schedule
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2020/Programme#Schedule
> > >
> > of
> > the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2020, which will take place from 2–4
> >  October, has been published. We have received proposals covering
> > interesting topics with creative ideas and it was a real challenge to
> > accommodate them in the optimal way. Thank you for your interest in
> taking
> > part as a speaker.
> >
> > The registration for the event is still open. You can add your username
> to
> > the list of participants
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2020/Participants/List
> > >
> > and
> > subsequently confirm your participation by getting your ticket for free
> on
> > the following link
> > <
> >
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimedia-cee-online-meeting-2020-tickets-116483763071
> > >
> > . *Note that the number of participants per community is unlimited and we
> > also welcome interested participants from outside the CEE region.
> > *Additionally,
> > there is no obligation to attend all sessions at the conference and you
> can
> > freely choose only those that you find particularly interested in.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kiril
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #009 digest (Abstract Wikipedia); #010 today at 13:00 UTC

2020-09-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #009. [1]

The topics discussed were:

* Abstract Wikipedia
* Translation of modules
* Feedback on Abstract Wikipedia in various existing communities

I encourage those of you interested in any of the above topics to read the
digest. [1]

Today (Sep 15th) at 13:00 UTC we will be hosting Wikimedia Clinic #010,
with the scheduled segment again being Denny Vrandečić introducing Abstract
Wikipedia (this time in an Asia-friendly time zone).

As always, beyond this scheduled segment, there will be time to bring up
any Wikimedia-related questions or topics other call attendees are
interested in.

The link to the call is:
https://meet.google.com/dsd-rypz-xjf

Cheers,

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/009

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:46 AM Kunal Mehta  wrote:

>
> > That is indeed unfortunate! It *used* to list explicit email addresses of
> > the admins. I'll see if there's any setting that can be changed.
>
> This change was intentional, see
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150164> (presumably there's some
> mailman config to toggle it if people really wanted).
>

Ah yes, thank you.

I documented the list admins on wiki:
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia-l=revision=20447613=18927728
> >.
> Maybe consider adding it to the list description?
>

Thank you, done.

   A.
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #010 - Tue Sep 15th 13:00UTC - Abstract Wikipedia

2020-09-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

This is an update from the Wikimedia Clinics series.[1]

On Tuesday, September 15th, at 13:00 UTC[2], we will be hosting Wikimedia
Clinic #010.[3]  The scheduled segment this time would be an introduction
to Abstract Wikipedia, featuring project founder Denny Vrandečić himself!

As always, beyond this scheduled segment, there will be time to bring up
any Wikimedia-related questions or topics other call attendees are
interested in.

Hope to see you there!

   A.

[1] Wikimedia Clinics are live video calls hosted by the Community
Development team, as a way to keep in touch during the pandemic, and offer
an opportunity to ask questions, share recent work, brainstorm ideas, etc.
In addition to whatever topics attendees bring up on the spot, there is a
pre-schedule segment in each call.  Read more at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics

[2] this time, the time of day was chosen to accommodate the ESEAP region,
in particular.

[3] Google Meet[4] link: https://meet.google.com/dsd-rypz-xjf

[4] Our experiment using Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet resulted in a clear
conclusion that it is not a suitable platform for Wikimedia Clinic calls,
as it cannot reliable handle more than about 10 people, as we learned the
hard way at Clinic #009.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:50 PM Dan Szymborski 
wrote:

> As long as people are going to continue to talk about me and imply that I'm
> actually *harassing* people, then I feel I have a right to defend myself.
>

Nobody ever denied you that right.

I brought up that the UCoC standard is a reasonable person standard, not a
> "most offended person" standard and this was never addressed. Instead, I
> was demeaned by being placed on a special moderation protocol. Asaf Bartov
> threatened me that if I continued to defend myself -- even as people
> continued to discuss me -- that *I'm* hijacking the thread.


What I actually wrote to you, and I quote, was:

"I also must insist that you not hijack this thread, which is for
discussing the draft UCoC.  If you see value in bringing up your concerns
on those other matters on this list, please do so on separate threads.
Since you have expressed the opinion that this UCoC draft is illegitimate,
I suggest there is really no reason for you to post further on this thread,
leaving it for those who *would* like to discuss it."

I then did indeed threaten that *if you continue to disrupt the UCoC
thread*, your messages won't be let through. As you can see, your latest
letter, since it was no longer disrupting the UCoC thread, *was* let
through.

I asked Asaf if Koerner was given a similar warning for a very long, smug,
> patronizing screed about me as on-topic. Bartov reiterated that nobody else
> was given any warning about off-topic communication. Only *I* am not
> allowed to talk about *my* apparent offense.
>

Since now you quote a question you asked privately, I will quote the answer
I gave you:


"No, I did not warn Ms. Koerner about thread hijacking, because the very
problem with thread hijacking is that once the change of topic is made,
people legitimately want to respond. I have not observed Ms. Koerner
*initiating* a thread hijack.

I do encourage you to continue contributing on the list, including in
criticizing whatever flaws you find in the Foundation's actions.  I
certainly find such flaws myself.

But again, as a professional, perhaps you can be less ornery and more
measured in expressing the *substance* of your concerns. It would at the
very least be no less effective, and perhaps more so."


   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
No, it is not "forbidden words" that are the problem, and we have no
intention of maintaining a list.

We expect list subscribers to maintain civil discourse, which does include
avoiding vulgarity, and expressing oneself with respect to both one's
interlocutors (or addressees of criticism) and the broader audience.

Happily, this is something more than 99 percent of subscribers manage to do
without effort.

As I have repeatedly clarified, respectful discourse absolutely does not
preclude criticism. Indeed, it is liable to make the criticism more likely
to be heard.

   A.

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, 12:26 Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Is there somewhere we can refer to the list of offensive and unacceptable
> expressions, and how they are determined?
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Anders Wennersten
> Sent: 11 September 2020 10:33
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review
>
> There are many of us on this list who have given the feedback we find
> that expression offensive and unacceptable.
>
> Do not forget the readers of this list comes from may different cultures
> and if you and the people close to you find it "acceptable" it is not a
> valid judgment for all, and why do you want us to leave this list just
> so you can use a language like that. (I certainly would if that was
> accepted as a norm)
>
> The language on this list is English, it means we non-native have to
> adjust our entries to a unfamiliar language. It mean we have to limit
> our means of expression (we will not be experts on nuances).  You who
> are native English speaker have all the advantages, would it then be too
> hard for you to adjust you language to what is acceptable to us others?
>
> Anders
>
>
> Den 2020-09-11 kl. 09:31, skrev Benjamin Ikuta:
> >
> > Please, enlighten me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:39 PM, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
> >
> >> Am Fr., 11. Sept. 2020 um 08:07 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Ikuta
> >> :
> >>> Is there some context that makes this much worse than it seems, or do I
> have a deeply flawed understanding of civility?
> >> Well, are you open to consider the possibility that the latter might
> >> theoretically be the case, at least partially?
> >> Kind regards
> >> Ziko
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
r the WMF keep
> its
> > >>>>>>>> flatulence
> > >>>>>>>>> to itself.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde <
> > >>>>>>> reachout2is...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the
> > >> Board
> > >>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>> WMF
> > >>>>>>>>>> as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest
> > >>> improvement.
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have been following the process closely and I do not see
> > >>> anything
> > >>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>> looks like an "imposition"
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the
> > >> existing
> > >>>>>>>> policy
> > >>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>> guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected of users in
> any
> > >>>>>>>>> Wikimedia
> > >>>>>>>>>> project.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Isaac
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski, <
> > >> dszymbor...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above
> > >>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>> community approval, participating in any way is ethically
> > >>>>>> unsound.
> > >>>>>>>>> Doubly
> > >>>>>>>>>>> so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has
> > >>>>>>> arbitrarily
> > >>>>>>>>>>> denied communities the right, as manifested in the election
> of
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF
> > >> has
> > >>>>>>>> taken
> > >>>>>>>>>> over
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a
> collaborative
> > >>>>>>>> process
> > >>>>>>>>>> when
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's
> > >> called
> > >>>>>>> one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The best use of time at this point is to organize the
> > >> communities
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> use
> > >>>>>>>>>>> every means at its disposal to resist such an imposition.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley <
> > >>>>>>> pear...@wikimedia.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, everyone.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of
> > >>>>>> Conduct
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
> >,
> > >>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier
> this
> > >>>>>>> year
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 14:05 Fæ  wrote:

>
> Who are the list mods?


The current list admins are John Vandenberg, Shani Evenstein, and I.

Unfortunately, this is not made clear at
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l


That is indeed unfortunate! It *used* to list explicit email addresses of
the admins. I'll see if there's any setting that can be changed.

In line with what you say here, a track record that, say, included
> deliberately misusing administrator or checkuser tools on Wikimedia
> projects, should certainly be considered a trust problem.
>

Agreed.

   A.


> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:56, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > I would say first and foremost, good judgment. As measured by the
> person's
> > track record on-wiki and on this list.
> >
> > Preferring to err on the side of caution, people under community
> sanctions,
> > or who have themselves been moderated for on-list misconduct, need not
> > apply.
> >
> >A.
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 12:58 Peter Southwood  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Asaf,
> > > What are the criteria for eligibility as moderator for this list?
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Asaf Bartov
> > > Sent: 10 September 2020 11:07
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice
> > >
> > > Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
> > > strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
> > > coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
> > > requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
> > > underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.
> > >
> > > I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate
> and of
> > > encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think
> there
> > > is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.
> > >
> > > But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
> > > time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence,
> suspicion,
> > > whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as
> well, of
> > > course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.
> > >
> > > All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple
> of
> > > list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is
> time to
> > > recruit them.  Is anyone interested?
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
> > > >
> > > > It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> > > > someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement
> may
> > > have
> > > > been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should
> either be
> > > > undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> > > > That's a substantial conflict of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > > >
> > > > > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation,
> due to
> > > > > posts with unacceptable language.
> > > > >
> > > > > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this
> > > list,
> > > > > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
> > > > >
> > > > >Asaf (volunteer capacity)
> > > > >on behalf of Wikimedia-l list moderators
> > > > > --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
I would say first and foremost, good judgment. As measured by the person's
track record on-wiki and on this list.

Preferring to err on the side of caution, people under community sanctions,
or who have themselves been moderated for on-list misconduct, need not
apply.

   A.

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 12:58 Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Asaf,
> What are the criteria for eligibility as moderator for this list?
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Asaf Bartov
> Sent: 10 September 2020 11:07
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice
>
> Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
> strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
> coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
> requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
> underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.
>
> I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate and of
> encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think there
> is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.
>
> But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
> time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence, suspicion,
> whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as well, of
> course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.
>
> All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple of
> list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is time to
> recruit them.  Is anyone interested?
>
>A.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
> >
> > It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> > someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may
> have
> > been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
> > undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> > That's a substantial conflict of interest.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
> > > posts with unacceptable language.
> > >
> > > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this
> list,
> > > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
> > >
> > >Asaf (volunteer capacity)
> > >on behalf of Wikimedia-l list moderators
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
 ,
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>>>> Meta.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2020_-_Board_of_Trustees_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review
> > >>>>>>>> [4]
> > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Patrick Earley
> > >>>>>>>> Policy Manager, Trust and Safety
> > >>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here.  This is why I
strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
coincides with criticism of the Foundation.  In this case, we received
requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan.  We did so, while
underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.

I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate and of
encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation.  I think there
is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.

But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
time.  By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence, suspicion,
whatever, but do it in a civil manner.  Dan can continue to do as well, of
course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.

All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple of
list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is time to
recruit them.  Is anyone interested?

   A.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen  wrote:

> Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
>
> It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
> someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may have
> been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
> undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
> That's a substantial conflict of interest.
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
> > posts with unacceptable language.
> >
> > I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this list,
> > so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
> >
> >Asaf (volunteer capacity)
> >on behalf of Wikimedia-l list moderators
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[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2020-09-09 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
posts with unacceptable language.

I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this list,
so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #009 featuring Abstract Wikipedia team

2020-08-21 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear fellow Wikimedians,

A quick reminder that in a little over three hours, at 19:00 UTC, we have
Wikimedia Clinic #009, featuring Denny Vrandečić presenting about Abstract
Wikipedia.

It's a great opportunity to find out what this exciting new project is all
about, if you haven't yet.

The meeting will be hosted on free-software Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet, at
https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic009

Note you'll need to install the Jitsi app if you're on a mobile device.

See you there!

A.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #008 digest; #009 on Friday featuring Abstract Wikipedia!

2020-08-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #008. [1]

The topics discussed were:
* WMF Research (Presentation by Leila Zia (WMF))
* Wiki Studies
* Pitching ideas for development to WMF
* Harassment

I encourage those of you interested in any of the above topics to read the
digest. [1]

On Friday, August 21st, at 19:00 UTC[2], we will be hosting Wikimedia
Clinic #009.[3]  The scheduled segment this time would be an introduction
to Abstract Wikipedia, featuring project founder Denny Vrandečić himself!

As always, beyond this scheduled segment, there will be time to bring up
any Wikimedia-related questions or topics other call attendees are
interested in.

PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using the free
software Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet.  Desktop/laptop computers can connect
directly via the link[3] but if you want to connect using a mobile device
(phone or tablet) you will need to download the Jitsi app[4] first and use
that to connect via the link[3].

Cheers,

A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/008
[2] Here is a WorldTimeBuddy link to help you figure out what that means
for your time zone.
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[3] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic009
[4] https://jitsi.org/downloads/

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic digest #007 posted; Clinic #008 featuring Research at 18:00 UTC

2020-08-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #007. [1]

The topics discussed were:

* Statistics tools demonstrations (+Bonus demonstration of stylometric
analysis to uncover sock puppets)
* What is "Wikimedia research"
* In person events
* Wikimedia in Mainland China
* Technical feedback on Jitsi

I encourage those of you interested in any of the above topics to read the
digest. [1]

In a couple of hours, at 18:00 (6pm) UTC, we will be having Wikimedia
Clinic #008, at this link[2].  The call today would feature a short talk by
Leila Zia, director of the Research team at the Wikimedia Foundation,
offering an overview of what the team does as well as some recent research
examples, but the call will as always also welcome whatever
Wikimedia-related topics attendees want to bring on.

PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using the free
software Jitsi-based Wikimedia Meet.  Desktop/laptop computers can connect
directly via the link[2] but if you want to connect using a mobile device
(phone or tablet) you will need to download the Jitsi app[3] first and use
that to connect via the link[2].

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/007
[2] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic008
[3] https://jitsi.org/downloads/

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinic/007

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #006 digest posted; #007 taking place

2020-08-05 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #006, which was held in
Spanish.[1]  An English version of the digest is also available[2], to
allow non-Spanish speakers to benefit from the summary too.  I encourage
those of you interested in hearing some voices from our Spanish- (and
Catalan-) speaking communities to read the digest.

In a few hours, at 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, we will be having Wikimedia Clinic
#007, at this link[3].  The call today would have a demonstration by Amir
Sarabadani of a new tool for gathering statistics about media usage, but
will as always also welcome whatever Wikimedia-related topics attendees
want to bring on.

PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using Jitsi.
Desktop/laptop computers can connect directly via the link[3] but if you
want to connect using a mobile device (phone or tablet) you will need to
download the Jitsi app[4] first and use that to connect via the link[3].

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006/en
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[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikimedia Clinic calls and program updates

2020-08-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

Below are the dates and times for the upcoming Wikimedia Clinic[1] calls.
But first, a few updates about the program in general:

1. Based on feedback so far, we are changing the format of the calls to be
*semi-scheduled* instead of *completely unscheduled*.  This means each call
will have one or more specific *pre-announced* topics, each topic having a
(brief!) presentation by staff followed by time for discussion or questions
and answers, *in addition* to the unstructured time for topics attendees
want to bring up spontaneously.

2. Following the Clinic call in Spanish two weeks ago, we are also planning
calls in Russian and French (details to be determined).

3. We are experimenting with using the free-software Jitsi technology for
the meetings instead of Google Meet.  Please note that one disadvantage of
the free-software solution is that to connect from a mobile device you will
need to download and install the Jitsi app and point it at meet.wmcloud.org
![2]

4. A few people have expressed confusion or consternation about the
program's name.  I have started an on-wiki section on the talk page to
discuss a possible renaming of the program. Feel free to contribute to
it.[3]

The upcoming calls (note the time zones!) and their tentatively-scheduled
topics:  (there may be some changes in the topics in the coming 2-3 days.
Check the Meta page closer to the calls to be sure.)

1. Wednesday, August 5th, 17:30 UTC.  Topic: Stats tools demonstrations

2. Monday, August 10th, 18:00 UTC.  Topic: Recent research from the
Foundation's Research team.

3. Thursday, August 20th, 19:00 UTC. Topic: TBD.

As always, see the program page on Meta for the details and call links.

Cheers,

   Asaf

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
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[3]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Mediawiki-i18n] Language Showcase, July 2020

2020-07-19 Thread Asaf Bartov
Will there be a written summary (of the technical updates, in particular)
for those who would miss or won't make time for the presentation?

   A.

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On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:34 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase,
> a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and
> its connection to Wikimedia Projects.
>
> This next installment will deal with the translatewiki website, the
> Translate extension in general, the latest technical updates in both of
> them, and some upcoming projects.
>
> This session is going to be broadcast over Zoom, and a recording will be
> published for later viewing.
>
> Please read below for the event details, including local time, joining
> links and do let us know if you have any questions.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Amir
>
> == Details ==
>
> # Event: Language Showcase #6
>
> # When: July 22, 2020 (Wednesday) at 13:00 UTC (check local time
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200722T1300 )
>
> # Where:
>
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/99585961221
>
> Meeting ID: 995 8596 1221
>
> # Agenda:
>
> The translatewiki website, the Translate extension in general, the latest
> technical updates in both of them, and some upcoming projects.
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic digest #005; call in Spanish today

2020-07-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #005 has been published[1].  For your
convenience, here is a list of the topics discussed:

* Generating tables on Wikipedia from Wikidata
* Are you active in affiliates? Why or why not?
* How to connect with local Wikimedians?
* Datasets relating to Wikimedia activities by country?
* ReplyTool

If any of this interests you, I encourage you to read the digest[1].

And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Wikimedia Clinic #006
*in Spanish*, about to take place today at 18:00 UTC, at the Google Meet
link below[2].  While the call will be in Spanish without translation into
English, the *digest* of this call will be offered in both languages.

Cheers,

   A.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/005
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic en español. jueves, 16 de junio, a las 18 hs UTC

2020-07-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Estimados y estimadas Wikimedistas,

(Les pedimos que compartan este mensaje a todas las personas que consideren
que podrían beneficiarse de esta invitación. Puede que no sea parte de los
canales más relevantes o grupos).

En estos tiempos tan complejos con la pandemia, y la posterior complejidad
que surgirá durante la post-pandemia, el contacto e interacción humana con
nuestros y nuestras compañeras de Wikimedia, aunque sea a través de una
videollamada, puede sernos útil, relajante y divertido. También nos da la
oportunidad para hacer esas preguntas que siempre quisimos realizar, pero
nunca pudimos hacerlas; o hasta explicar situaciones que pueden ser
complejas de articular por escrito.

Es así que el equipo de Desarrollo Comunitario de la Fundación Wikimedia,
ha estado experimentando con videollamadas abiertas (usando Google Meet)
para que cualquier persona activa en los proyectos Wikimedia pueda
participar, realizar consultas o recomendaciones sobre cualquier iniciativa
o problema relacionado con Wikimedia en el que se encuentren trabajando.

También es un espacio para compartir y recibir retroalimentación, aún si no
tienen ninguna pregunta o duda concreta, o si simplemente quisieran
conectarse y compartir sus experiencias con las demás personas.

Llamamos a esta iniciativa: Clínicas de Wikimedia (nos traen cualquier
“caso” que tengan en mente, y vamos a hacer lo posible por ayudarles), y se
estarán realizando varias veces al mes (alternando entre zonas horarias y
días, para que la mayor cantidad de personas puedan participar)

Cada sesión de la clínica puede durar hasta 90 minutos, y garantizamos que
participen al menos dos personas de la Fundación Wikimedia en la llamada.
Esto no quiere decir que vamos a tener todas las respuestas, pero nos
comprometemos a ayudarles a conseguirlas, aún si no es durante la llamada,
podemos hacer un seguimiento posterior a sus consultas y trataremos de
resolverlas.

Cada llamada tendrá un resumen que será editado para mayor claridad y
estará disponible para los y las voluntarias interesadas. Este resumen
contendrá también enlaces hacia herramientas o recursos que hayan sido
mencionados durante la llamada, y será compartido y archivado en Meta[0].
Aquí un ejemplo reciente [1] (en inglés).

¡Estas llamadas *no* reemplazarán ningún canal existente ni tampoco
llamadas previas que hayan sido agendadas! Todos los canales o reuniones
que utilicen o ya tengan seguirán existiendo. No se realizarán anuncios de
gran magnitud durante estas llamadas, ni tampoco queremos que se sientan
con la obligación o el estrés de participar.

Más bien, estas clínicas serán una nueva forma de comunicación directa y
apoyo, con un enfoque menos restringido o limitado que otros canales
existentes (donde sólo ciertos temas son tratados), y esperamos que sean
más accesibles para las personas que no están tan seguras sobre si su tema
o problema es apropiado para alguno de esos canales.

Ya que estas llamadas (que hasta el momento han sido en inglés) parecen ser
útiles, nos complace ahora también poder ampliarlas al español, y esperamos
que más adelante también podamos realizarlas en otros idiomas, y así dar un
mayor acceso a este recurso más allá de la barrera idiomática con el
inglés. No soy fluido en español, así que esta vez sólo participaré en la
llamada, pero será co-facilitada por Melissa y Selene; y Edna junto a
Cassie tomarán las notas (en español).

¡Les invitamos a unirse si es que este horario les funciona! Nuestra
primera llamada en español está agendada para el jueves, 16 de junio, a las
18 hs (6pm) UTC (15 hs - 3pm Buenos Aires, 20 hs - 8pm Madrid, etc.), en
este link[2] de Google Meet.

Les recordamos que no hay ninguna agenda fija, ni tampoco se requiere
preparación previa para esta llamada. Siéntanse libres de participar y
acompañarnos con cualquier tema relacionado a Wikimedia que tengan en
mente, o simplemente para pasar el rato.

¡Cualquier comentario o duda es bienvenida!

Saludos,

Asaf

Esta vez con el apoyo de Melissa, Selene, Edna y Cassie

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/004

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[Wikimedia-l] Digest of Wikimedia Clinic #004; Wikimedia Clinic #005 happening in a couple of hours

2020-07-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #004 has been published[1].  For your
convenience, here is a list of the topic titles discussed:

* Community friction in outreach on Turkish Wikipedia
* Announcement about Celtic Knot 2020 Conference (Virtual)
* Consultations between the WMF and the meta Community
* Translation of the {{Cite Q|...}} from English to Spanish?
* International conflict observatory
* Can you recall a great talk or presentation outside Wikimedia that really
inspired your Wikimedia work?

If any of this interests you, I encourage you to read the digest[1].

And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Clinic #005, about to
take place at 17:30 UTC (in under three hours as of this posting), at the
Google Meet link below[2].

Also, we have just scheduled an experiment-within-an-experiment, a
Wikimedia Clinic *en espanol*, for July 16th at 18:00 UTC.  That call will
take place mostly in Spanish.  Everyone is welcome.  See the main meta
page[0] for the link.

Cheers,

   A.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/004
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[Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice: Gerard Meijssen

2020-06-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear list subscribers,

In my volunteer capacity as list-admin, I write to let you know that
subscriber Gerard Meijssen has been placed on indefinite moderation after
making toxic comments to another subscriber, and failing to apologize for
them after it was pointed out to him.  Gerard had been warned before about
his aggressive conduct on this mailing list.

As most of you know, being placed in moderation still allows moderated
people to contribute to the list, but their posts don't go straight to all
subscribers, but wait for an admin to review and release them, or reject
them.  They are a compromise between wanting to be inclusive of people who
are good faith volunteers but who sometimes find it difficult to maintain
civil discourse on the one hand, and protecting the list's other
subscribers from unacceptable discourse on the other hand.

However, Gerard chose to unsubscribe himself from the list.  We want to be
clear that the moderation remains in force, should he choose to
re-subscribe in the future.

Asaf
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[Wikimedia-l] Digest of Wikimedia Clinic #003; Wikimedia Clinic #004 happening in an hour

2020-06-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #003 has been published[1].

And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Clinic #004, about to
take place at 17:30 UTC (in under an hour as of this posting), at the
Google Meet link below[2].

Cheers,

   A.

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[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/003
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Sudan User Group

2020-06-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent news!  Welcome, Wikimedia Community User Group Sudan!

(I hope at least their designated contacts have subscribed to this mailing
list.)

   A.

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On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
>
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] Wikimedia Sudan User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group
> aims to support Sudanese living in Sudan and in the diaspora working to
> help bridge the content gaps about Sudan (and broadly Africa) on the web
> through the largest online Encyclopedia, Wikipedia and its sister projects
> as well as other open projects that allow sharing and accessibility of free
> knowledge.
>
>
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan
>
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Sudan
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (she/her)
>
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
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[Wikimedia-l] Digest of Wikimedia Clinic #002; updates on schedule; Wikimedia clinic in Spanish!

2020-06-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

We have now published the digest of Wikimedia Clinic #002[1]. If you missed
previous announcements about the Wikimedia Clinic idea, please see its page
on Meta[2].

As announced, it contains a compact summary of the topics discussed,
augmented by links and some follow-up information that was not available
during the call.  I invite you to skim the topic list and see if there's
something of interest for you.

Upcoming Wikimedia Clinic calls are:

Call #004 - Sunday(!), June 28th, 17:30 UTC [3]
Call #005 - Wednesday, July 1st, 17:30 UTC [4]

Also, we are experimenting with a Wikimedia Clinic in Spanish!  It is still
being scheduled, and I will keep you posted as soon as the date and time
are known.  That call will be held primarily in Spanish (everyone is
welcome, of course), and will welcome discussions in Spanish.

Cheers,

Asaf

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/002
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[3] https://meet.google.com/wcu-arcq-jxg
[4] https://meet.google.com/eqo-qokn-mwj

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Emergency moderation ended

2020-06-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Just a handful of further responses on the racism thread.

Specifically in case anyone wonders, no messages regarding the branding
project were suppressed.

   A.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 00:54 Benjamin Ikuta  wrote:

>
>
> For the sake of transparency, how many messages were blocked?
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > We have ended the emergency moderation of the mailing list
> >
> > We did our best to process the moderation queue at least several times a
> > day, but are happy to return the list to regular operation.
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Emergency moderation ended

2020-06-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

We have ended the emergency moderation of the mailing list

We did our best to process the moderation queue at least several times a
day, but are happy to return the list to regular operation.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #003 today at 08:00 UTC

2020-06-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

A quick reminder that we will be having another Wikimedia Clinic open call
today, in about three hours, at 08:00 UTC.

The Wikimedia Clinics calls are open video calls (using Google Meet) where
any active Wikimedian is welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working
on.You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even
if you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang
out, or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.

It's relaxed and informal. The calls are a Friendly space
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy>. Attendees are
expected to:

   - Listen with patience and respect.
   - Share your experience, but remember others' contexts are very diverse,
   and may not match yours.
   - Be of service.

The Google Meet link is https://meet.google.com/hmb-hfjk-jtk

NOTE: I know the Branding project is still a topic of interest and debate
for many of you.  While you are welcome to bring it up during a clinic and
share thoughts with each other, I'm afraid this upcoming call won't have
new information from WMF's side beyond the last communication from the
Board, and those interested in further engagement on the topic would be
able to get more answers on the same general channels on Meta and the
Wikimedia-l mailing list they have already been using.  Again, the topic is
not taboo on the Wikimedia Clinic, but I do want to set expectations for
people who may only attend hoping to hear new information about it.

Cheers,

   A.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #001 digest and future calls

2020-06-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

This is an update on the Wikimedia Clinics[1] pilot:

On June 15th we hosted the first Wikimedia Clinic call. It was well
attended (~25 volunteers, not counting WMF staff), with a good mix of
experience levels and countries of origin. As promised, we publish a
*digest* of the call[1], edited for clarity and brevity, and aiming for
maximal value to readers whether or not they attended the call, with links
and information added after the call to complement the information given
during it.

To accommodate different time zones, we are about to host the second
Wikimedia Clinic in a few hours, June 17th at 8:00am UTC.  The meeting link
is [3].

We have also added three more Wikimedia Clinic time slots, which you can
always see in the Clinics page on Meta[1], where the meeting links are
given too.  I also paste the times here for your convenience:

Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC (today, soon!)
Tuesday, June 23rd, 08:00am UTC
Sunday, June 28th, 17:30 UTC
Wednesday, July 1st, 17:30 UTC

We at the Community Development team are already finding this a useful
model, and have already drawn some valuable feedback that will translate
into future work from us.  One example is a *movement-facing* Introduction
to the Wikimedia Foundation module (see the digest[2]).

Cheers,

A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/001
[3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due

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[Wikimedia-l] IMPORTANT: Entire list on moderation and notes on conduct

2020-06-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedia-l subscribers.

I write to you in my volunteer capacity of list-admin, to inform you that
the entire Wikimedia-l mailing list is now under moderation, meaning all
posts will have to be manually reviewed and approved by one of the admins.

Here's why:

Comments on the thread titled (and seeking to remove) "Promotion of
scientific racism in Wikipedia articles" have upset a large number of
people, quite a few of whom wrote to the list-admins requesting that the
thread be shut down.

Reviewing the thread, we see some comments that AT BEST (assuming good
faith) are ignorant, insensitive, and tone-deaf, especially in the current
moment.  As always when ASSUMING good faith, the assumption may not be
correct, and some of the comments may be deliberate trolling, i.e.
calculated to upset people.

Be that as it may, people are indeed upset, and the prospects of
constructive conversation about Fae's original topic -- which was
essentially an instance of a well-known systemic problem of Wikipedia, viz.
its susceptibility to relying on outdated or debunked sources, and the
difficulty to dislodge some such sources -- seem very poor.

Shutting down a single thread is not technically possible on a plain
mailing list, so we have moderated the entire list as a stopgap measure.

Our goal is to restore unmoderated list access AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
Toward that end, we ask the following:


1. Make no more responses AT ALL on that thread started by Fae.

2. Recognize that the list is for coordination and discussion of matters
related to our work as Wikimedians in service of the Wikimedia mission.  It
is *not* the appropriate venue to debate content issues, including the
concept of "race", various racial theories, etc.

3. If you would like to pursue work around this systemic issue, I encourage
you to create an on-wiki task force or WikiProject, where you would be able
to clarify methodological questions and plan the on-wiki work.  If you
start such a project, announcing it publicly on this list to let people
know it exists would be permitted.

4. Recognize that whether or not you are personally feeling anything
special is going on, *a lot* of people around the world are undergoing a
trying time right now -- over and beyond the already-trying pandemic
conditions -- specifically involving the diverse phenomena of racism and
bigotry.  People experience it in many different ways, but quite a few are
hurting, quite a few are raging, quite a few are frustrated and upset, etc.

Whatever your opinions about these complex and charged issues, it would be
an act of empathetic kindness and collegiality to your fellow Wikimedians
who *are* experiencing an exceptionally trying time if you *avoid* choosing
this time to air out those opinions.


We shall do our best to monitor the moderation queue at closer intervals,
to support regular list activity on all other topics.  People who would not
heed our requests above will remain on moderation after the entire list is
unmoderated. (We will announce when that happens.)

Your list moderators.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-15 Thread Asaf Bartov
Last reminder: this is happening in one hour (at 17:30 UTC).  The link for
today's call is this: https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
Concise and depersonalized notes will be publicly shared after the call.

Cheers,

   A.

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On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:28 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> In these complex times of pandemic, and the coming complex times of
> post-pandemic, live human contact with fellow Wikimedians, even mediated
> through a video call, can be helpful, relaxing, and fun.  It can also offer
> opportunities to ask questions you have been meaning to ask but never got
> around to, or to explain complex situations that may be hard to articulate
> in writing.
>
> To better support members of the community during this time, the Community
> Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in trying an
> experiment: scheduling open video calls (using Google Meet) where any
> active Wikimedian would be welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
> advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working on.
>
> You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even
> if you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang
> out, or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.
>
> We are thinking of calling these calls Wikimedia Clinics, and would host
> them once a week (in alternating time zones, to accommodate as many people
> as possible).
>
> Each clinic session:
>
> * would be 70-120 minutes in length depending on topics presented and
> volume of conversation
> * would have at least two Wikimedia Foundation staff members guaranteed to
> be present. They are not guaranteed to have the answers you need, but they
> are committed to helping you get them, even if not during the call itself,
> but as later follow-up.
> * would be summarized in an in-depth *digest* of the call that would be
> edited for clarity and available to all volunteers interested. These notes
> would link to any tools and resources mentioned on the call and will be
> shared on this mailing list and archived on Meta[0].
>
> These calls are *not* replacing any existing channels or
> regularly-scheduled calls!  Every channel or call you are already using
> continues to exist.  No important announcements will be made on these
> calls, and no one should feel stressed or obligated to attend them.
>
> Rather, they are a new form of live-communication open support calls, less
> narrow in focus than some of the existing channels (where only specific
> topics are expected), and, we hope, more approachable and welcoming for
> people not sure whether their question or dilemma is appropriate for one of
> the other channels.
>
> If these calls are found useful, we'll try to offer them in some other
> languages, to increase access to those not comfortable speaking English.
>
> So, let's give this a try!  The first two calls are scheduled for:
>
> Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[1].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[2].
>
> and
>
> Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[3].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[4].
>
> Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.
> Feel free to join us with anything Wikimedia-related that's on your mind,
> or just to hang out.
>
> Feedback and questions welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Asaf
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
> [1] https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
> [2]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f
> [3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due
> [4]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26539200=8-10=show=500d54dd-96c7-1934-0910-afe98a3440a5
>
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Reminder: the Wikimedia Clinic calls experiment is about to begin. The
first calls are scheduled for:

   - Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link
   <https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky>. Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event
   for timezone convenience
   
<https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f>
   .
   - Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link
   <https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due>. Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event
   for timezone convenience
   
<https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26539200=8-10=show=500d54dd-96c7-1934-0910-afe98a3440a5>
   .

Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.  Feel
free to join us with anything *Wikimedia-related* you'd like to ask, or get
feedback on, or just to hang out.
   A.

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On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:28 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> In these complex times of pandemic, and the coming complex times of
> post-pandemic, live human contact with fellow Wikimedians, even mediated
> through a video call, can be helpful, relaxing, and fun.  It can also offer
> opportunities to ask questions you have been meaning to ask but never got
> around to, or to explain complex situations that may be hard to articulate
> in writing.
>
> To better support members of the community during this time, the Community
> Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in trying an
> experiment: scheduling open video calls (using Google Meet) where any
> active Wikimedian would be welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
> advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working on.
>
> You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even
> if you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang
> out, or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.
>
> We are thinking of calling these calls Wikimedia Clinics, and would host
> them once a week (in alternating time zones, to accommodate as many people
> as possible).
>
> Each clinic session:
>
> * would be 70-120 minutes in length depending on topics presented and
> volume of conversation
> * would have at least two Wikimedia Foundation staff members guaranteed to
> be present. They are not guaranteed to have the answers you need, but they
> are committed to helping you get them, even if not during the call itself,
> but as later follow-up.
> * would be summarized in an in-depth *digest* of the call that would be
> edited for clarity and available to all volunteers interested. These notes
> would link to any tools and resources mentioned on the call and will be
> shared on this mailing list and archived on Meta[0].
>
> These calls are *not* replacing any existing channels or
> regularly-scheduled calls!  Every channel or call you are already using
> continues to exist.  No important announcements will be made on these
> calls, and no one should feel stressed or obligated to attend them.
>
> Rather, they are a new form of live-communication open support calls, less
> narrow in focus than some of the existing channels (where only specific
> topics are expected), and, we hope, more approachable and welcoming for
> people not sure whether their question or dilemma is appropriate for one of
> the other channels.
>
> If these calls are found useful, we'll try to offer them in some other
> languages, to increase access to those not comfortable speaking English.
>
> So, let's give this a try!  The first two calls are scheduled for:
>
> Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[1].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[2].
>
> and
>
> Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[3].
> Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[4].
>
> Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.
> Feel free to join us with anything Wikimedia-related that's on your mind,
> or just to hang out.
>
> Feedback and questions welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Asaf
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
> [1] https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
> [2]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f
> [3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due
> [4]
> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/even

[Wikimedia-l] NEW: Wikimedia Clinic calls, starting June 15th

2020-06-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear Wikimedians,

In these complex times of pandemic, and the coming complex times of
post-pandemic, live human contact with fellow Wikimedians, even mediated
through a video call, can be helpful, relaxing, and fun.  It can also offer
opportunities to ask questions you have been meaning to ask but never got
around to, or to explain complex situations that may be hard to articulate
in writing.

To better support members of the community during this time, the Community
Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in trying an
experiment: scheduling open video calls (using Google Meet) where any
active Wikimedian would be welcome to attend and ask questions or ask for
advice about whatever Wikimedia-related goal or problem they're working on.

You can also just share what you're working on and invite feedback, even if
you don't have a specific question. Or people can just connect to hang out,
or to offer their own experience to the people asking questions.

We are thinking of calling these calls Wikimedia Clinics, and would host
them once a week (in alternating time zones, to accommodate as many people
as possible).

Each clinic session:

* would be 70-120 minutes in length depending on topics presented and
volume of conversation
* would have at least two Wikimedia Foundation staff members guaranteed to
be present. They are not guaranteed to have the answers you need, but they
are committed to helping you get them, even if not during the call itself,
but as later follow-up.
* would be summarized in an in-depth *digest* of the call that would be
edited for clarity and available to all volunteers interested. These notes
would link to any tools and resources mentioned on the call and will be
shared on this mailing list and archived on Meta[0].

These calls are *not* replacing any existing channels or
regularly-scheduled calls!  Every channel or call you are already using
continues to exist.  No important announcements will be made on these
calls, and no one should feel stressed or obligated to attend them.

Rather, they are a new form of live-communication open support calls, less
narrow in focus than some of the existing channels (where only specific
topics are expected), and, we hope, more approachable and welcoming for
people not sure whether their question or dilemma is appropriate for one of
the other channels.

If these calls are found useful, we'll try to offer them in some other
languages, to increase access to those not comfortable speaking English.

So, let's give this a try!  The first two calls are scheduled for:

Monday, June 15th, 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[1].
Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[2].

and

Wednesday, June 17th, 08:00am UTC, and this is the Google Meet link[3].
Link to a WorldTimeBuddy event for timezone convenience[4].

Remember, there's no set agenda and no particular preparation needed.  Feel
free to join us with anything Wikimedia-related that's on your mind, or
just to hang out.

Feedback and questions welcome.

Cheers,

Asaf

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meet.google.com/kha-nghc-mky
[2]
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26536320=17.5-19.5=show=f924130e-ed00-e1b4-b549-2202e11d660f
[3] https://meet.google.com/iex-jebd-due
[4]
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=100=100=26539200=8-10=show=500d54dd-96c7-1934-0910-afe98a3440a5


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the WikiBlind User Group

2020-05-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations to the new user group!  It's great to have a clear
destination to refer people to, on matters of vision-impaired use of and
contribution to the Wikimedia projects.

(I think it would be helpful, for this and other recent groups, to ensure
that the designated contacts for the group are clearly identified on the
group's Meta page.  People shouldn't have to guess how to make contact with
the group, and shouldn't just assume the first few names in the members
list are the designated contacts.)

Cheers,

   A.

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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:51 PM Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <
rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
>
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] WikiBlind User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to:
> WikiBlind User Group, is a new international online group in which our
> members, blind, low vision and sighted, can connect with each, and discover
> the options we most enjoy for participating in the free and open knowledge
> movement.
>
>
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_WikiBlind_User_Group
>
> [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBlind_User_Group
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mario Gómez  wrote:

> As far as I know, criticism of political lobbying by the WMF is generally
> frowned upon here. Including aspersion casting against critics.
>

Um, what?  As a (volunteer) list administrator of this mailing list, and
indeed a (paid) Foundation staff member, I can assure you that you are
welcome to criticize any aspect of the Foundation's work here, within usual
bounds of civility (no ad hominem attacks, obscenities, etc.).

While I wish we had substantive discussions here more often than we do, it
is still an appropriate venue for discussions between the Foundation and
the communities.  Unlike more popular alternatives, this mailing list is
public, tolerant of pseudonyms, and has an immutable public archive.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual activity report of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2020-02-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Very impressive, thank you!

   A.

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On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 1:24 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are pleased to share with you  our annual activity report for the year
> 2019.
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians/Reports/Annual_Activities/2019
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fresh data on the gender gap in content

2020-02-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 6:14 PM Robert Fernandez 
wrote:

> How do you get negative one biographies?
>
> 149 Mongolian 2 -1 -50.00
> 148 Punjabi 2 -1
>

The lines you quote were from the "diff" section, i.e. there were two
articles about men more than the previous period, and one less about
women.  (This can mean an article about a woman was deleted, or it could
mean three articles about women were created but four were deleted, etc.)

   A.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fresh data on the gender gap in content

2020-02-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

Back in June 2016, on this thread, I had published some data on the *content
gender gap* in Wikipedia biographies (i.e. how many articles are about men
versus how many are about women). I intended to keep generating snapshots
of these stats, to track progress against the gap, but then realized the
excellent WHGI project[1] is already collecting and preserving snapshots of
the data, so I did not do so myself.

However, being curious about the numbers for a particular community, I
realized WHGI does not provide an easy way to compare snapshots across
time.  The data is all there[2], but a convenient visualization and
comparison tool between two arbitrary snapshots is not available yet.  So
while I did not build such a tool myself, I did update my little page with
fresh numbers, *plus a comparison to the June 2016 *numbers.

You may find the data interesting:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon/Content_gap#Data_as_of_February_2020
(note that the table is sortable by clicking the column heads)

While it is difficult to ascribe the change to specific programs, overall
there can be little doubt that the increased attention to the content
gender gap, alongside specific programs and groups such as Women in Red,
Art+Feminism, WikiMujeres, WikiDonne, and even certain runs of
#100wikidays, have all contributed to narrowing the gap on most Wikipedias.

Special congratulations to the Punjabi, Malayalam, and Odia Wikipedias,
which have all narrowed the gap by more than 10 points!  Of the larger
wikis, great progress was made by the Vietnamese and Armenian Wikipedias.

As before, I'll note:

1. Your efforts, particularly on small-to-medium wikis, can really make a
dent in these numbers!

2. I encourage you to share these numbers with your communities.  Perhaps
you'd like to overtake the wiki just above yours? :)

Cheers,

   A.

[1] https://whgi.wmflabs.org/gender-by-language.html
[2] https://whgi.wmflabs.org/snapshot_data/

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:14 PM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hullo everyone.
>
> I was asked by a volunteer for help getting stats on the gender gap in
> content on a certain Wikipedia, and came up with simple Wikidata Query
> Service[1] queries that pulled the total number of articles on a given
> Wikipedia about men and about women, to calculate *the proportion of
> articles about women out of all articles about humans*.
>
> Then I was curious about how that wiki compared to other wikis, so I ran
> the queries on a bunch of languages, and gathered the results into a table,
> here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon/Content_gap
>
> (please see the *caveat* there.)
>
> I don't have time to fully write-up everything I find interesting in those
> results, but I will quickly point out the following:
>
> 1. The Nepali statistic is simply astonishing! There must be a story
> there.  I'm keen on learning more about this, if anyone can shed light.
>
> 2. Evidently, ~13%-17% seems like a robust average of the proportion of
> articles about women among all biographies.
>
> 3. among the top 10 largest wikis, Japanese is the least imbalanced.  Good
> job, Japanese Wikipedians!  I wonder if you have a good sense of what
> drives this relatively better balance. (my instinctive guess is pop culture
> coverage.)
>
> 4. among the top 10 largest wikis, Russian is the most imbalanced.
>
> 5. I intend to re-generate these stats every two months or so, to
> eventually have some sense of trends and changes.
>
> 6. Your efforts, particularly on small-to-medium wikis, can really make a
> dent in these numbers!  For example, it seems I am personally
> responsible[2] for almost 1% of the coverage of women on Hebrew Wikipedia!
> :)
>
> 7. I encourage you to share these numbers with your communities.  Perhaps
> you'd like to overtake the wiki just above yours? :)
>
> 8. I'm happy to add additional languages to the table, by request.  Or you
> can do it yourself, too. :)
>
>A.
>
> [1] https://query.wikidata.org/
> [2] Yay #100wikidays :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/100wikidays
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

2019-10-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Ziko: Yes, it is about the major Russian city.  And one of its listed
contacts is the longstanding president of Wikimedia Russia itself.

Philip: this is not an example of a large country being "split up", since
Wikimedia Russia is still around, and was not broken up.  It is also not
the first user group operating within Russia, nor even the first group with
a geographic remit.[1]

   A.

[1] e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don_Wikimedians_User_Group

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:34 PM Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello Philip,
>
> I was asking the same question - isn't there already a Wikimedia Rossiya -
> but I guess this is the User Group of Saint Petersburg in Florida (USA),
> not Sankt Peterburg in Russia.
> Oh wait... this IS about the city in Russia!
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Philip Kopetzky <
> philip.kopet...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Kirill,
> >
> > so it seems like geographically large countries are being split up into
> > different user groups - do you think that this is a viable model for the
> > future or just happened because of certain circumstances within the
> Russian
> > community? Would your template allow a User Group from Rome, Paris,
> Munich
> > or Sydney for example?
> >
> > Best,
> > Philip
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:20, Kirill Lokshin 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> > > [1] the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group [2] as a Wikimedia
> > User
> > > Group. The group aims to unite Wikimedians living in St. Petersburg, to
> > > support the development of content on topics related to St. Petersburg
> > > across different Wikimedia projects, to promote the Wikimedia projects
> > and
> > > movement in St. Petersburg, and to build partnerships between the
> > Wikimedia
> > > community and cultural, scientific, educational, and media institutions
> > in
> > > St. Petersburg.
> > >
> > > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the extension of funding by the Basque Government

2019-09-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Fantastic news, Galder!  Kudos to everyone involved!

   A.

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> Dear wikimedians,
> Three years have gone since we started with the Basque Wikimedians User
> Group Education Program, funded by the Basque Government. After two years
> and a half of great enhancing of Basque Wikipedia (more than 2.500 students
> adding more than 1.5 million words on fundamental topics) the Basque
> Government has announce us today the extension of the funding for four more
> years.
>
> In this four years we will try to strengthen our Educaton Program but also
> open to new areas in order to make our knowledge equity vision possible. By
> 2024 we will have taken sure steps towards creating a free knowledge
> ecosystem centered at Wikimedia.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Colombia

2019-07-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations!

  A.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:02 PM Kirill Lokshin 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> has approved the recognition of Wikimedia Colombia [1] as a Wikimedia
> chapter.
>
> Over the past five years, Wikimedia Colombia has successfully planned and
> executed a significant portfolio of innovative and effective programs,
> attracting new contributors, forming partnerships with local institutions,
> promoting the Wikimedia movement throughout the Republic of Colombia, and
> demonstrating a substantial record of programmatic impact.
>
> It is our hope that recognition as a Wikimedia chapter will empower the
> Wikimedia Colombia community to continue fostering the Wikimedia movement
> in Colombia and enable them to more effectively engage with government
> entities and other partners.  We additionally hope that Wikimedia Colombia
> will prove to be a source of inspiration and support for emerging Wikimedia
> communities in the surrounding geographic areas, furthering affiliate
> development across northern South America and Central America.
>
> I want to thank everyone who has been involved with setting up the new
> chapter, and recognize their commitment and patience over the past two
> years as we've worked through the chapter recognition process.  Please join
> me in congratulating the entire Wikimedia Colombia team for their
> accomplishment!
>
> Regards,
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>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Colombia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Wikimedia Community User Group Uganda 2018/2019 Report

2019-07-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations, Erina and WCUG Uganda, on a clear and informative report!

One area to consider improving would be on-wiki contributions by the core
user group volunteers.

Cheers,

A.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:14 PM Erina Mukuta  wrote:

>
> *To whom it may concern*
> below is the link to the over due annual report for the mentioned usergroup
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2018-2019_Annual_Report
>
> Kind regards
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright issues

2019-06-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
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[Wikimedia-l] New tutorial video on submitting media via OTRS + request for help

2019-06-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello.

We have released a comprehensive tutorial video -- as one medium-length
video and as several shorter clips -- aimed at helping non-Wikimedians
submit media to Wikimedia Commons via OTRS.

This video is the result of a pilot project within the framework of
the Community
Capacity Development <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CCD>[1] program at
the Wikimedia Foundation. It was led by Asaf Bartov
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)>[2], from the Community
Development team, with the active involvement of an advisory committee made
up of experienced OTRS and Commons volunteers. The script development and
video production were done by contractor Victor Grigas
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:VGrigas_(WMF)>[3], and reviewed by
the advisory committee.

The video is intended to be useful to OTRS agents, Commons volunteers, and
Wikipedia volunteers in various languages, for helping *non-Wikimedians*
submit media via OTRS. It is hoped that being able to refer people to the
video, in whole or in part (to the introduction plus a specific scenario,
perhaps), would save at least some of the *very common* back-and-forth
correspondence many OTRS agents have to conduct with non-Wikimedian
contributors struggling to understand copyright and Commons norms.

The video is designed to be easy to translate and localize, with no speech,
and a lot of interstitials, which should facilitate preparing localized
versions of the video(s).

The page describing the video, including links to the various versions, the
script, and even B-roll material, is here:


*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Video_tutorial_on_how_to_submit_media_to_Wikimedia_Commons_using_OTRS
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Video_tutorial_on_how_to_submit_media_to_Wikimedia_Commons_using_OTRS>*

I request your help in three ways:

1. Spread the news in your communities, and ensure your fellow volunteers
are aware of the availability of this resource.

2. Translate the video (the page itself is much less important) into your
language, if not English.

3. Provide feedback on the video, or on your use of it, ideally on-wiki, in
the talk page of the page linked above.

Thanks,

   A.

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[Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Speaking as a (very) longtime member of this mailing list, and one who is
carefully observing it for a few years now as a volunteer list
co-administrator:

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> I, like many others, wish to see this list become a crucible of good
> suggestions, healthy and critical debate about ideas and as a sound
> mechanism for oversight and account . A huge amount of staff time and
> movement resources is taken up by the consumption of its content. And yet
> it remains the greatest shame that much of the best most worthwhile
> constructive discussions have moved to platforms like Facebook because this
> list is viewed as hosting such an unhealthy atmosphere when emails are
> written with such overt passive aggression.
>
> I call it out because if we want people to participate on this list, the
> unhealthy way in which this list gets treated by some of its most active
> participants needs to be dealt with. Otherwise valid points will not get
> acknowledged or answered.
>

I am not sure the causality here runs in the direction you describe.  It's
true that this list had some aggressive, even vulgar participants in the
past, and that some senior staff members, as well as board members, have
left the list in protest.  Personally, I think that was a mistake on their
part: to improve the list atmosphere, you model good behavior yourself, and
you call upon the rest of the list -- the "silent majority" -- to call out
bad behavior and enforce some participation standards (as, indeed, I and my
co-moderators have been doing since we took over).

By senior people's departing this list, and no longer requiring staff to be
on this list, a strong signal was sent that this is not a venue crucial to
listen to, and that, coupled with the decreasing frequency of WMF responses
to legitimate volunteer inquiries and suggestions, had a *powerful*
chilling effect on the willingness of most volunteers to engage here.
Especially when, as you say, they were able to get better engagement on
Facebook and other channels, despite the serious shortcomings of
accountability on those channels (immutable archiving, searchability,
access to anonymous volunteers, etc.)

Yes, this list has also seen some pseudonymous critics whose questions may
have been inconvenient or troublesome to address.  Yet I think the
accountable thing to do would have been to respond, however briefly, to
prevent the sealioning and sanctimonious posts that filled the list -- and,
I am sure, greatly annoyed and demotivated many subscribers.  Even a
response stating WMF chooses not to respond to a certain question, or not
to dig up certain data, would have been better than the stony silence that
has become the all-too-common stance for WMF on this list.

As you know, I also work for WMF (though I am writing this in my volunteer
capacity, and out of my care for the well-being of this list).  While I
have never shied away from responding on this list, I have on occasion been
scolded (internally) for attempting to answer volunteer queries to the best
of my knowledge, for "outstepping my remit" or interfering in someone
else's remit.  I have taken this to heart, and accordingly no longer try to
respond to queries such as Fae's (which in this case I find a perfectly
reasonable question, meriting an answer).  Several past attempts by me to
ping appropriate senior staff on questions on this list (or on talk pages)
have also met with rebuke, so I have ceased those as well.

For these reasons I do not accept this wholesale blaming of this list's
subscribers on the difficulty having meaningful conversations here:

But if we want to see staff members more actively
> participating here then those long standing individuals need to really
> thing about the tone in which they engage here, particularly those who do
> so most often. If that does not change, this list will continue to languish
> and those few staff members who continue to engage here will slowly
> disappear. This now increasingly perennial topic keeps coming up and my
> fear is that it will on go away through the increasing abandonment this
> list faces.
>

It is WMF that is not behaving collaboratively here.  And it is within
WMF's power to change it.  C-levels, the ED, and other managers at WMF
could all decide to participate more actively in this list; to respond to
questions or delegate the answering to their subordinates, who are awaiting
their cue; and indeed, they could themselves make more use of this list as
a sounding board, a consultation room, and a reserve of experience and
diverse context.  They can be the change they (and you, and me) would like
to see.

Perhaps this e-mail could convince some of them.  And if not my words, then
perhaps those of some of the other list subscribers.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:10 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a Commoner, I can tell we certainly are, James, please apply here:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators
>
> Even if your sysop actions are rather occasional or seasonal, or focused on
> a certain topic, like mine, all help is very much welcomed there.
> rg/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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That has not been my experience.  I recently wanted to help reduce the
load, in my volunteer capacity, by becoming a Commons admin focused on
undeletion requests (which ties in with my volunteer work as an OTRS agent,
and would save me and Admins the time of filing and handling a COM:UDR
request).  Despite my thousands of contributions to Commons, my track
record in the movement, and my understanding of copyright, a small majority
opposed. Some of them specifically said they don't want admins focused on a
certain topic, and others wanted to see me active in deletion discussions
(specifically) before they would consider accepting my help.  This does
suggest there is a certain reluctance to give the admin bit even to very
low-risk volunteers like me.

I certainly did not feel my help was welcomed.

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiNusantara

2019-05-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you for sharing this!  Very glad to see a national wikiconference in
Indonesia!

  A.

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:25 AM Biyanto Rebin 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> We just held our first national conference in Indonesia with 82
> participants for the closed session and 100 selected participants for the
> open session.[1] Our theme for the conference was "a window of
> collaboration".
>
> Please visit our blog:
>
> https://wikimedia.or.id/2019/05/08/wikinusantara-the-first-nationwide-conference-for-the-indonesian-wikimedia-community-successfully-took-place/
>
> And full documentation is in here:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiNusantara_2019
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiNusantara_2019
>
> --
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time

2019-04-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
This is not India-specific, and may be of interest to other communities
struggling with such a question.

   A.

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From: Ravishankar 
Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:05 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time
To: wikimediaindia-l 


Hi,

Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time after a gap of almost 5 years.

After 2013, we hit a policy deadlock where we couldn't agree on how to
elect a new sysop, what are the qualities of an ideal sysop, etc.,

Even after repeated attempts, we could not solve this as the fear of being
not able to easily desysop someone made us look for higher and higher bars
for a perfect admin.

So, how did we solve?

Recently, MediaWiki allows someone to get sysop access for limited periods
of time like 1 month, 3 months, etc., This is how Stewards grants adminship
in many small wikis.

We felt when there is the possibility of granting adminships for trial
periods and renew them thereafter, we don't need to keep the bar for
adminship very high.

We also proposed to start a Wiki Admin School where others can mentor the
new admins.

So, after a month long discussion and community consensus, we conducted our
sysop elections and elected 10 sysops at a time.

Right now, we have 42 sysops  with one of the highest sysops per users
ration among all global Wikis.

We plan to elect 6 new sysops every quarter and are discussing a similar
policy for bureaucrat election.

We strongly believe having a diverse pool of sysops makes them feel
empowered to serve the Wikimedia movement for a long period of time.

If you are interested in knowing more, take a look at the policy here
<https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/7gmi> and the discussion in the related talk
page.

Thanks,

Ravi
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing our newest chapter, Wikimedia Korea

2019-04-23 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations!  Thrilled to see this happen.  It's been a long road, and
I am proud to have been (very modestly) involved in some of the development
efforts.

Cheers,

A.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 1:43 AM effe iets anders 
wrote:

> Refreshing to see some positive development here again, after all the
> complications, setbacks etc - welcome to your new status WMKR! It was
> always a joy to see you at work in activities, looking forward to hearing
> even more from you again :)
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:11 PM María Sefidari 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I am happy to share that earlier this year, the Wikimedia Foundation
> Board
> > of Trustees approved our newest Wikimedia chapter - Wikimedia Korea!
> >
> > For more information about our newest Wikimedia chapter, Wikimedia Korea,
> > please see the announcement on the Wikimedia Foundation website:
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/04/23/wikimedia-korea-new-chapter-affiliate-launches-in-south-korea/
> >
> > I want to congratulate the new chapter and recognize their commitment,
> > efforts, and time involved in moving through the chapter recognition
> > process over the past year. From their work building partnerships with
> > universities, to supporting and training new editors in South Korea, we
> > look forward to seeing the impactful work from our community members in
> > South Korea as they advance in their new affiliate role.
> >
> > As many of you know, this is our first chapter approval in several years
> -
> > since the newest Wikimedia affiliate approval processes were put in
> place.
> > This marks a new moment in the history of our Wikimedia movement
> > affiliates. The Board appreciates the amazing work coming from these user
> > groups around the world, and is inspired to see how far some of these
> > groups have come in terms of their impact both on our movement and their
> > local communities. Indeed, we should all be proud of the impact our
> > affiliates continue to have on our projects, our vision, and the world
> > around us.
> >
> > Any affiliate interested in becoming a chapter or thematic organization
> > must have at least two years of activities and experience as a user group
> > before applying. Please check out the user group creation guide to get a
> > user group started - it is meant to be very easy:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups/Creation_guide
> >
> >
> > You can find a lot more information about our movement affiliates model
> on
> > Meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Models
> >
> > You may also reach out to the Affiliations Committee with questions or to
> > begin the approval process for your group:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee
> > Please join me in congratulating Wikimedia Korea for this important
> > achievement and thanking the members of the Affiliations Committee and
> > Wikimedia Foundation staff who supported and worked with them during this
> > long process.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > María
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Chair of the Board
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
 make
> > > Wikipedia work are a bad fit for original, deadline reporting:
> > >
> > > Wikipedia:NOR - no original research
> > > Wikipedia:RS - requirement for reliable sources
> > > Wikipedia:V - verifiability
> > > Wikipedia:NORUSH - there is no deadline/eventualism
> > >
> > > Most anyone who tries Wikinews first hand will experience this mismatch
> > and
> > > realize it is a poor fit.
> > >
> > > However, rather than lament why Wikinews doesn't work, we should
> > celebrate
> > > the fact that we have found a better mode: entries that evolve minute
> to
> > > minute (oftentimes second to second) to best reflect the world as we
> know
> > > it. Embrace that new, live, constantly updated snapshot of reality –
> the
> > > Wikipedia article.
> > >
> > > If you want to see some of the earlier debates about the origins of
> > > Wikinews, October 2004 is a good place to look:
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-October/thread.html
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-October/061017.html
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Report 2018: Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey

2019-04-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thank you, Basak and the rest of the group!

You have been doing good work under unfortunate and difficult
circumstances.  Keep it up, and we continue to hope for the lifting of the
ban.

Cheers,

Asaf

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:09 PM Basak  wrote:

> This message is not encrypted but sent from a verified user on the dmail
> blockchain <https://dmail.io>
> Dear All,
>
> After a delay, I am happy to share the annual report of the Wikimedia
> Community User Group Turkey.
>
> -Basak
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Turkey/Reports/2018
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spam on the Wikimedia India blog (and therefore on en.planet)

2019-03-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
It's been reported to the Wikimedia India board.  They are looking into it.

  A.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:55 AM Jérémie Roquet  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Could anyone please have a look at what's going on with the Wikimedia
> India blog? There has been spam for dating sites there for several
> days (if not weeks).
>
> This is not exactly obvious when you look at the main page¹, except if
> you scroll down a bit, but “ctrl+f dating” in the rss feed², or in the
> planet rss feed³ and you'll see it.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> ¹ http://blog.wikimedia.in/
> ² http://blog.wikimedia.in/feed/
> ³ https://en.planet.wikimedia.org/rss20.xml
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Wikimedia Sverige receives a total of USD 500, 000+ in funding for three new projects, and a cost reduction of USD 30, 000/year

2019-03-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
Wonderful news, John!  Congrats to WMSE and to all of us, who will benefit
from this work.

  A.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:31 PM John Andersson 
wrote:

> Wikimedia Sverige is proud to be the recipient of three new grants
> totaling around USD 500,000. We hope to work with many of you as part of
> these projects. If you are interested in getting involved or receiving
> updates please let me know.
>
> Furthermore, the chapter also has a new heavily subsidized agreement for
> our office space.
>
> Project 1: Wikispeech – The Speech Data Collector
>
> The first project is a continuation of the Wikispeech[1] project, a
> text-to-speech (TTS) system that converts written text into speech. From
> September 2019 to April 2021 we aim to finalize building the MediaWiki
> extension and to build tools to collect speech data to add pronunciations
> to Wikipedia, Wiktionary and Wikidata and to add more languages to the
> text-to-speech solution. The tools should also be possible to use for oral
> citations.
>
> The work happens in partnership with the Royal Technical Institute, STTS
> (a language processing company), Mozilla Foundation, Wikimedia Deutschland
> and the Swedish Dyslexia Association.
>
> As always, you can find the full application on our wiki (in Swedish):
> https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Wikispeech_–_Talresursinsamlaren_2019/Ansökan
>
> Project 2: Wikipedia in Libraries
>
> From 2019 to 2020 Wikimedia Sverige, together with the National Library of
> Sweden, will develop an online training module for Swedish librarians
> focused around free knowledge and the Wikimedia platforms. This will be a
> mandatory training for all of Sweden's 5,000 public librarians. Our hope is
> to give all of them a basic understanding of the Wikimedia projects, as
> well as to complement the online training with advanced courses for the
> most dedicated. The advanced courses will give them the tools to ongoingly
> organize activities and events independently at their libraries across the
> country.
>
> Furthermore, the librarians will be engaged in the #1Lib1Ref and
> FindingGLAMs campaigns.
>
> There is a great potential to receive continuous funding over the coming 3
> years if successful.
>
> As always, you can find the full application on our wiki (in Swedish):
> https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Wikipedia_i_biblioteken_2019/Ansökan
>
> Project 3: Bibliographical data on Wikidata
>
> We continue our work to include bibliographical data on Wikidata. The
> project details are still being negotiated with the funder. The project
> will start in mid-2019 and last until 2020.
>
> Cost reduction
>
> Starting from March 2019 we have a new agreement in place for a heavily
> subsidized coworking space office from the Swedish Internet Foundation.
> Through the agreement we will save us around USD 30,000 per year compared
> to when we had an office of our own.
>
> We have received this generous subsidy because Wikipedia is considered so
> important for the infrastructure of the Internet. We are very happy that
> the agreement does not have an end date and that we have the possibility to
> grow significantly over time as well (while keeping the generous subsidy).
>
> Please contact John Andersson (john.anders...@wikimedia.se) if you have
> any questions.
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikispeech
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
> - - - -
>
> John Andersson
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board of Wikimedia Indonesia

2019-02-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
ia in 2016 and interested in being actively involved in Wikimedia
> Indonesia's activities. In 2019, she was trusted to serve as the Member of
> Board of Trustees.
>
> Fajarwati is a member of the Wikimedia Indonesia since 2016 and graduated
> from Jakarta State Polytechnic in Accounting Degree and Bachelor of
> Accounting at the University of Persada Indonesia Y.A.I. Before joining the
> project Keterlibatan Masyarakat dalam Teknologi (KMT) and Peningkatan
> Kinerja Teknologi Cipta Media (PKT) as an accountant in 2016–2017, she
> worked in the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Indonesia in the same position.
> She is currently working as a Project Assistant at the
> Kemitraan-Partnership for Governance Reform. Having involved in many
> projects and considerably contributed to Wikimedia Indonesia in providing
> financial insight, she is elected as one of Member of Board of Trustees.
>
> --
> Biyanto Rebin | Ketua Umum (*Chair*) 2016-2018
> Wikimedia Indonesia
> Surel: biyanto.re...@wikimedia.or.id
> -
> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to Special:Blockwith partial blocks

2019-01-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
This is one of your list moderators speaking.

"80hnhtv4agou" -- I am cautioning you against hijacking this thread to
discuss your current conflict.  Your question can be construed to be
general enough for Sydney to usefully answer for your and others'
information.  But please do not pursue your personal conflict in this
thread.

   A.

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>
> what about administrators that abuse these tools.
>
> From: Sydney
> Poore
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:04 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing
> List
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about improvements to
> Special:Blockwith partial blocks
>
> Hello
> all,
>
> In 2019, Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is
> continuing to
> make improvements to Special:Block with the addition of the
> ability to set
> a Partial
> block
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_health_initiative/Per_user_page,_namespace,_category,_and_upload_blocking
> >.
>
>
> While
> no functionality will change for sitewide blocks, over the next few
> months
> Special:Block will change to allow for the ability to block a named
> user
> account or ip address from:
>
>1.
>
>Editing
> one or more specific page(s)
>2.
>
>Editing all
> pages within one or more namespace(s)
>3.
>
>
> Uploading files
>4.
>
>Emailing other
> users
>
> Changes are being made to the design of the user interface
> for
> Special:Block to enable admins to set partial blocks.
>
> All
> Wikimedia administrators are invited to try partial blocks on
> testwiki.
>
> Special:block on testwiki allows admins to block an account
> from editing on
> up to 10 pages.
>
> Administrators on Wikimedia projects
> are invited to test this new way of
> doing blocks on testwiki. Admins can
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>
> Tell us if
> your Wikimedia project wiki is interested in being one of first
> wikis to
> enable partial block.
>
> Special:Block with partial block enabled went live
> on Italian Wikipedia
> today (January 16.)
>
> Our team is looking for more
> Wikimedia wikis that want to use the first
> version of partial
> block.
>
>
> The first version of partial blocks is simple with new
> features to be added
> in the coming months.
>
> Please spread the word by
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>
> You can
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedia Community of Tatar Language User Group

2019-01-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations, Tatar colleagues!

  A.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:02 PM Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin <
f...@yandex.com> wrote:

> First public event on behalf of the newly recognized Wikimedia Community
> of Tatar language User Group
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CEE/Newsletter/December_2018/Contents/Russia_report
>
> Public presentation of Wikimedia projects, activities of local Wikimedians
> and their benefits for regional development to the President, Government &
> mass-media of Tatarstan, as well as Russia's ICT ministry & industry
> scheduled for the end of January
>
> with invitation to WUG TATAR & WMRU member to speak @ EDU RUSSIA 2018
> conference in Kazan at the end of February-beginning of March (Plenary
> attended by Russia's Minister for Education.
>
> --
> Farkhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 /
> skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan
>
>
> 05.12.2018, 14:50, "Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin"  >:
> > Our St.Petersburg colleagues wrote a Russian Wikinews article dedicated
> to the event.
> >
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Татарские_викимедийцы_создали_четвёртую_в_России_юзер-группу_Викимедиа
> >
> > It's English translation is available in November 2018 CEE Newsletter @
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CEE/Newsletter/November_2018/Contents/Russia_report#Russia_report:_Tatar_Wikimedians_created_Russia's_4th_Wikimedia_User_Group
> >
> > For Erzya language version, see
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Татаронь_викис_витни-петнийтне_тейсть_нилеце_Россиясо_Викимедиянь_пурнавкс
> >
> > Translation into Tatar is also coming along @
> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Татарча_язучы_викимедиачылар_Россиядә_дүртенче_Викимедиа_кулланучылар_төркемен_төзеде
> >
> > regards,
> > farhad
> >
> > --
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> skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan
> >
> > 27.11.2018, 20:15, "Kirill Lokshin" :
> >>  Hi everyone!
> >>
> >>  I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> recognized
> >>  [1] the Wikimedia Community of Tatar Language User Group [2] as a
> Wikimedia
> >>  User Group. The group aims to develop Wikipedia in Tatar into most
> popular
> >>  content portal of the Tatar-language internet; to grow other Wikimedia
> >>  projects in the Tatar language; and to teach new generations of
> >>  Tatar-language Wikimedians, developing their skills through sharing
> >>  experiences.
> >>
> >>  Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >>
> >>  Regards,
> >>  Kirill Lokshin
> >>  Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >>
> >>  [1]
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Community_of_Tatar_language_User_Group
> >>  [2]
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Tatar_language_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

2018-12-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
Note that this is not to be confused with there necessarily being more
pageviews for the most read articles about women than for the most read
articles about men.  It does show there's more coverage of less-interesting
men than there is of less-interesting women.

  A.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 3:22 AM Tilman Bayer  wrote:

> Hi Micru,
>
> in general, there may be better venues to ask this kind of question, e.g.
> the Wiki-research-l and Gendergap mailing lists (both CCed). But for a
> partial answer, the paper by Marit Hinnosaar reviewed here looks at these
> stats (if not their long-term trend):
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2015/December#Does_advertising_the_gender_gap_help_or_hurt_Wikipedia
> ?
>
> E.g. "On a typical (median) day in September 2014, no one read 26 percent
> of the biographies of men versus only 16 percent of the biographies of
> women."
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 3:35 AM David Cuenca Tudela 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Are there any statistics that track the evolution of page views of
> > male/female biographies in the different Wikipedias?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Micru
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[Wikimedia-l] GLAM-Wiki 2018 session videos

2018-11-22 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello.

The GLAM-Wiki 2018 conference organizers did not provide video recording,
but Andrew Lih saved the day and recorded the whole conference himself,
with cellphones and tripods.

It took some time to edit the videos, but they are now up on Commons:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GLAM_WIKI_Tel_Aviv_2018_videos

Consult the program for the session names and descriptions:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMTLV2018/Program

Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) 
wrote:

> I think it is a very good move.
>
> Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our
> mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only
> specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people.
> All those who do great things, but who are not representative of an
> affiliate.


True.  But:


> Berlin has become so big that increasingly, many decisions
> are made over there, in a closed environment. And those who are not part
> it are missing opportunities to weight in.


I have been to every Wikimedia Conference since 2009, and I disagree with
this characterization.  I am hard-pressed to think of *decisions* made at
WMCON.  I remember discussions, feedback-gathering (e.g. the recent
strategy work), but not *decisions*.  The only *decisions* I can think of
actually made at the Wikimedia Conference are either: 1. committee
decisions (e.g. AffCom), using the conference for a face-to-face meeting
and making the same kinds of decisions they otherwise make online, or 2.
decisions between a group of volunteers to collaborate on something (i.e.
individuals inspiring each other into undertaking a volunteer project, e.g.
WLM).

Characterizing this conference as a secretive decision-making cabal is
untrue and unfair, and may give people who've never been to it a very wrong
impression.

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

2018-07-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:36 AM Balázs Viczián 
wrote:

>
> Would love to see people management skills workshops, and organizational
> skills (logistics) workshops...but I attend an event only every 2-3 years
> (or less), so this is just an almost silent suggestion :)
>

Wikimedia conference in recent years have indeed been putting more and more
of an emphasis on people skills and governance skills.  Learning Days[1]
and the pre-conference Board  Training[2] at this year's WMCON are one
example, but regional and national conference have been seeing more
interest in these skills too.

Cheers,

A.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Learning_and_Evaluation/News/Learning_Days_for_Wikimedia_Conference_2018
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Pre-Conference_Boards_Training
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[Wikimedia-l] SPARQL tutorial video (2 hours)

2018-07-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hullo.

I recently recorded a video of my 2-hour SPARQL tutorial.  It is better
than the SPARQL section in my 3-hour Intro to Wikidata video from a couple
of years ago, and is easier to follow, with the query screen fed directly
rather than through the video camera.

It is now available here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querying_Wikidata_with_SPARQL_for_Absolute_Beginners.webm


Enjoy!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stats re new users per gender per year in Hebrew Wikipedia

2018-06-08 Thread Asaf Bartov
(A Quarry query, not Wikidata query, in this case.)

And the table doesn't come through on the mailing list, so here's a
screenshot:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:User_gender_on_Hebrew_Wikipedia,_by_year,_through_May_2018.png


Cheers,

A.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 11:50 PM Shani Evenstein 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> This is something that made me happy this weekend and am happy to share --
> check out these stats from Hebrew Wikipedia regarding new users, per
> gender, per year, that Asaf generated via a WD query.
>
> You might notice a jump in numbers of female users in 2011, and then again
> in 2013 and 2015. I don't presume to be able to explain everything in the
> table below, but I'd like to think this is because of Wikimedia Israel's
> outreach efforts, which I'm proud to be part of since 2011.
> Here are some example milestones that I know of know of, which might
> explain these stats. Note they are a small part of numerous, varied and
> diverse outreach projects that WM-IL has been running for years now in
> GLAM, EDU, WikiWomen, WLM etc.  --
> * 2011 is when we started GLAMing and doing Education work more seriously.
> * 2013 is when my WikiMed academic course started.
> * 2015 is when my second Wiki academic course opened, and also when
> WikiWomen started to work in an organized manner in Israel.
>
> While we still have much work to do in shrinking the gender gap and being
> really inclusive, it's nice to be reminded that our work *does* matter and
> has actual impact on the voices that get to be heard in our community. So
> to all those running workshops, GLAM / EDU projects, contests etc -- keep
> up the good work, because your work matters. These numbers are merely one
> way of demonstrating that.
>
> A lovely weekend, everyone!
>
> Shani Evenstein Sigalov
> Volunteer, WM-IL.
>
>
> Stats generated by this Quarry query:
> https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/27458
> Year Male Female Unspecified % female % specified
> 2004 --- --- --- ---
> 2005 0 1 42 100.00 2.33
> 2006 201 21 3698 9.46 5.66
> 2007 180 22 5451 10.89 3.57
> 2008 214 33 5347 13.36 4.42
> 2009 503 107 5432 17.54 10.10
> 2010 455 96 5392 17.42 9.27
> 2011 393 105 5259 21.08 8.65
> 2012 294 143 5602 32.72 7.24
> 2013 260 220 5794 45.83 7.65
> 2014 258 237 7035 47.88 6.57
> 2015 214 239 6327 52.76 6.68
> 2016 169 254 5835 60.05 6.76
> 2017 143 175 6824 55.03 4.45
> 2018 42 49 3074 53.85 2.88
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Classification/Categorization games for Commons?

2018-06-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Absolutely; I wanted to know if such a tool perhaps already exists.  If one
does not, then definitely, if we develop a tool, it should look to the
future and be based on Structured Data on Commons already!

   A.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:54 PM Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> I think it is pretty similar to what we have built in Wikidata, Do
> Structured Commons folks want to comment?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Hi, folks.
> >
> > It occurs to me there are tens or hundreds of thousands of images donated
> > en masse (GLAM etc.) that are only categorized as "image from X
> collection"
> > or "Files donated by X", i.e. essentially uncategorized by content.
> >
> > This obviously greatly reduces the likelihood of discoverability and
> > re-use.  But it's hard to find such files, and the massive categories
> > (thousands of files, often) don't make organizing the work easy.
> >
> > I'm think of a gamified interface -- à la Wikidata Game -- that would
> let a
> > volunteer (after OAuth identification) pick a category (from a pre-fed
> list
> > of massive categories of donated files) and show one photo from the
> > category that has only that category listed (i.e. has no categorization
> by
> > content), and let the volunteer type (with auto-complete, like HotCat)
> some
> > appropriate categories and hit Save, and the categories would be added,
> and
> > the next file shown.
> >
> > (Optionally, a second layer of verification could be added, where
> > volunteers would [also] be invited to vet or change previous volunteers'
> > categorization, and actual change to categories on Commons would only
> take
> > place after 2 (or N) users approved the categories.  I'm not at all sure
> > this is needed, and I think we can start without it and see how it goes.)
> >
> > So, does something like this exist?  If not, who wants to build it? :)
> >
> >A.
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[Wikimedia-l] Classification/Categorization games for Commons?

2018-06-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, folks.

It occurs to me there are tens or hundreds of thousands of images donated
en masse (GLAM etc.) that are only categorized as "image from X collection"
or "Files donated by X", i.e. essentially uncategorized by content.

This obviously greatly reduces the likelihood of discoverability and
re-use.  But it's hard to find such files, and the massive categories
(thousands of files, often) don't make organizing the work easy.

I'm think of a gamified interface -- à la Wikidata Game -- that would let a
volunteer (after OAuth identification) pick a category (from a pre-fed list
of massive categories of donated files) and show one photo from the
category that has only that category listed (i.e. has no categorization by
content), and let the volunteer type (with auto-complete, like HotCat) some
appropriate categories and hit Save, and the categories would be added, and
the next file shown.

(Optionally, a second layer of verification could be added, where
volunteers would [also] be invited to vet or change previous volunteers'
categorization, and actual change to categories on Commons would only take
place after 2 (or N) users approved the categories.  I'm not at all sure
this is needed, and I think we can start without it and see how it goes.)

So, does something like this exist?  If not, who wants to build it? :)

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] knowing English is a privilege (was Re: Paid translation)

2018-02-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:09 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> > We are not *teaching* encyclopedia articles.
>
> What is the difference between delivering the text of an encyclopedia
> article and teaching it?


Depending on one's understanding of "teaching", and its expected outcomes,
the difference can be significant. It can, for example, imply a different
exposition of information, or include comprehension questions and
drilling.  It can include student assessment (grading), statistics, etc.


> Encyclopedias are not written to be
> accompanied by a lecturer, tutor, or teacher.


That's true.  They're designed for self-study. But that does not mean an
encyclopedic article is the best vessel for teaching a topic.  Certainly,
most people cannot effectively pick up a language from reading the
Wikipedia articles about its morphology and syntax.


> Knowing any language is a privilege, and suggesting that there is any
> reason to narrow the Foundation's focus away from language instruction
> seems completely absurd to me.
>

I think there can be no doubt that languages are knowledge, and that
therefore language instruction falls squarely within the Wikimedia mission
"to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop
educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to
disseminate it effectively and globally."

But being within our mission is not enough to be actively pursued, and I
assume that by "the Foundation's focus", you're referring not just to the
mission, but to the set of things the Foundation is actively pursuing and
investing in, i.e. to its current strategy and goals.

It seems to me that the main argument for adding *language instruction* to
the set of goals the Foundation (or wider movement) actively pursues would
be some demonstration that the Wikimedia movement is *well-equipped to do
it very well*, especially compared to the relatively rich set of products
and solutions in the language instruction space.

I acknowledge that very few of those are free/libre.  But most people don't
use Wikipedia because it's free/libre; they use it because it's free of
cost and because it's really, really useful.  Likewise, we'd need to
convince ourselves we can do significantly better than Duolingo, Babbel,
Mondly, Mango, Busuu, etc., to make it a worthwhile pursuit for the
Wikimedia movement at this time, being as it would be (as always) at the
cost of pursuing other goals.

> Wikimedia should be busy getting even better at its main thing: wiki
> articles.
>
> Why? We are already the best at that. Why not make the wiki articles
> in Wiktionary better by not just playing audio recordings of words,
> which volunteers (not the Foundation) already provide, but meeting
> that initiative by recording utterances and predicting whether they
> are intelligible pronunciations, and doing the same with recording
> gadgets in Wikipedia's pronunciation articles? http://j.mp/irslides


I think that's a very interesting direction.  I would suggest that it would
only make sense to invest in, if at all, once we have Lexical data entities
in Wikidata. (soon!)

A.
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