Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Results of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2017-05-23 Thread Austin Hair
I normally hate +1s, but I want to congratulate Doc James on his reappointment to the board. I hope we've all learned from his previous term, and can work together to benefit the movement. With love, One of your list administrators, who would rather not have to deal with fiascos. On May 23,

[Wikimedia-l] List administration

2017-02-16 Thread Austin Hair
​​ After what Asaf and I agree was a sufficient time for a call for candidates, we've appointed two new list administrators. Please welcome Shani Evenstein and John Mark Vandenberg as your new list overlords. Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

2017-02-13 Thread Austin Hair
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: > When I first read this I didn't think twice about it, because Gerard has > often gone over the 30 message limit, so nothing new. But after reading > later comments I see that he was disrespectful? I don't think so. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] List management

2017-02-09 Thread Austin Hair
found him to be likable, polite, and >> competent. >> >> I think well of Shani, and as she already has some experience with >> moderation duties, I would like to second her (self-)nomination. >> >> Pine >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 8

Re: [Wikimedia-l] List management

2017-02-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Joseph Fox wrote: > Thehelpfulone hasn't died. :) He's been hugely busy in real life, is all. Please don't take my factual statement (sorry, law student) to be throwing shade on THO. He's a great guy, and I understand that of late he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] List management

2017-02-08 Thread Austin Hair
A few reminders/clarifications: New subscribers are moderated by default. Once they've proven not to be spammers or trolls, they get whitelisted. Meanwhile, this does involve active moderation. It also requires mature judgment. This list is as laissez-faire as we can keep it, but occasionally

[Wikimedia-l] List management

2017-02-08 Thread Austin Hair
We've just had a bit of turnover of our list administrators. In order to get moderation going smoothly again, I've added Asaf Bartov as an admin. I don't think that decision will be controversial. Richard has resigned for his own reasons, after putting in more than his fair share of work here.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ray Saintonge has died

2016-09-13 Thread Austin Hair
Despite over a dozen years of friendship, I simply don't feel qualified to eulogize Ray as others can and already have. I'll simply say that over those years, I came to value his wisdom immensely as we worked together on Wikimedia organization regarding chapters and other topics. Christine and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The end

2016-05-19 Thread Austin Hair
Please consider this thread officially closed. Continuing it further can have no possible positive value; on the contrary, it's actively hurtful. If you want to start a new thread discussing the issues in a generic way, go ahead, but be aware that bullying will not be tolerated. Austin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Foundation ED search steering group created

2016-04-20 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Pine W wrote: > I think that I've said enough in this thread, so I'll pause my involvement > here for the time being. Fortunately for you, I actually read all the way through this thread and got to this part. Austin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

2016-03-02 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > It is deeply unsettling to have my WHAT? I confirmed no such thing, and > your misrepresentations do you no favors. > > One thing I have learned over the last few years is that it is impossible > to have a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] My posts going to spam

2016-02-29 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 2/29/2016 5:37 AM, Jimmy Wales wrote: >> >> I'm switching to this email address for posting, because apparently >> there is some kind of weird problem between yahoo and google such that >> gmail users see all or most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Anybody alive?

2016-02-24 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > OK. There are seven of us (six in this thread and Kevin in the other one). > > We need just the rest ~1000 to find. > > I think we should find first at least one of the list admins, so we > could find the names of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Shared list

2016-02-23 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > >> You are not the only one who is told that dissent is not appreciated. It is >> ironic that when openness and shared values

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why we changed

2016-02-22 Thread Austin Hair
I think everyone should remember that sarcasm, and tone in general, frequently do not come through across the wires, as it were. For that matter, please, stay civil. I'm happy to report that I haven't had to moderate anyone, yet, but I think we can all appreciate the current circumstances.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why we changed

2016-02-22 Thread Austin Hair
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:22 AM, Lila Tretikov wrote: > In practice this means I demanded that we set standards for staff > communication with our community to be professional and respectful. It > meant transitioning people, shutting down pet projects, promoting some but > not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your questions about KE.

2016-02-20 Thread Austin Hair
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016, Bence Damokos wrote: >> >> Just as a courtesy to those who follow the topic here on the mailing list, >> can you please send an update to this list whenever there is new content on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

2016-01-27 Thread Austin Hair
Even if it is a bit long-winded, I could not agree more. Thank you, Mike. Austin On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > Hello Arnnon, > > It is good to hear something directly from you. I am sure your intentions > in the position you were appointed to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

2016-01-22 Thread Austin Hair
And just so everyone's clear, Florence's new subscription has already been whitelisted. Austin On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Fæ wrote: > Sorry you've had to change email Florence. > > (Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their > friends to check if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How To Recover From Having Made A Mistake [a reminder]

2016-01-11 Thread Austin Hair
I just wanted to pile on along with the three +1s I just approved in the moderation queue. Austin On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > It occurs to me this might be a good time to recycle this piece of advice I > have had some past

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What happened on the Board of Trustees?

2016-01-10 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Anthony Cole wrote: > I hope this person is blocked from posting again here. Utterly > inappropriate. He's on moderation, which means each of his posts to the list will be held and must be approved individually. As a rule, we don't like to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changing the subject line

2016-01-10 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:41 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > I'm amused that neither of you seemed to follow your own advice here, > starting and continuing a tangential (meta-)discussion without changing > the subject line to create a new thread. We'll all strive indeed. :-) You've

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What happened on the Board of Trustees?

2016-01-10 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Comet styles wrote: > honestly, WMF > has taken a nosedive since Sue left and left the organisation in the > hands of Lila who has failed as a leader..not to mention her > 'baby-daddy' has been banned from most wikimedia wikis as well

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-09 Thread Austin Hair
Having waited two days for any kind of meaningful response from either the Board or from individual trustees, I have to say that Kat's comments (unsurprisingly) nailed it. I mean, seriously, nobody googled him? Austin On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Kat Walsh wrote: > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-09 Thread Austin Hair
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Fæ wrote: > Hello everyone, I would like to put out a friendly reminder that good > practice is to keep threads on topic within reason, and to create new > discussion threads for distinct tangents or complete spin off > discussions. > > "Community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] Defence of the personality rights of Daniele Ganser

2015-12-24 Thread Austin Hair
We had already warned him off-list, and as a non-member I don't believe any of his posts to wikimedia-l actually went through (although they obviously went somewhere). Still, he would certainly be wise to take your advice to heart. :) Austin On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Lodewijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Old maps of Jerusalem released

2015-12-19 Thread Austin Hair
These are fantastic. Great work. Austin On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Jaime Anstee wrote: > So cool! Thanks for sharing, Michal. > > -- > > Jaime Anstee, Ph.D > Senior Strategist > Wikimedia Foundation > +1.415.839.6885 ext 6869 > www.wikimediafoundation.org > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sick of the subject "(no subject)"

2015-12-04 Thread Austin Hair
I won't speak for him, but I think Richard was venting more than making a serious threat. Assuming this is indeed unintentional, nobody has anything to worry about. Austin On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM, K. Peachey wrote: > I think that is a tad inappropriate, when it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Community consultation on the future of Wikimania

2015-12-03 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Ellie Young wrote: > A lot of work has gone into preparing for the consultation.It will be > going out December 14. We are looking forward to getting everyone's feedback > in the weeks after and into early January. Is there a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

2015-11-26 Thread Austin Hair
I understand and even sympathize with your position, although not your outright hostility. (Please keep that to a minimum, by the way.) As others have said, the recognition of Adele Vrana as one of the three laureates accepting on behalf of the Community, and with it the explicit recognition of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Celebrating Parisian culture and libertarianism

2015-11-16 Thread Austin Hair
This thread went to a bad place surprisingly fast, even for this list. I understand that emotions are high, but please keep your tempers in check and your discussion on-topic. Whatever you may think of Fæ's proposal, I don't think it was intended to provoke a religious argument, which I hope

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder y...@wikimedia.org wrote: I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

2015-06-11 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote: I wasn't going to join in, not wanting to affect Fae's situation with my own, but reading the latest emails he was actually concerned with the UK list, so I'll go ahead. Would someone mind taking me off

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-04 Thread Austin Hair
As Richard says, there's no way to get a quick count from the admin interface. It certainly isn't most of the 1510 subscribed addresses, despite all new subscriptions being moderated by default. Looking at my archived messages for this week, it appears that we average 2-3 held messages per day,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation of Trillium Corsage, was Re: Moderation of Fae

2015-05-26 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote: I wasn't going to join in, not wanting to affect Fae's situation with my own, but reading the latest emails he was actually concerned with the UK list, so I'll go ahead. Would someone mind taking me off

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation of Fae

2015-05-24 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, there was a typo there. I intended this to go to wikimediauk-l where I have been on moderation since last year. That's a relief. The first thing I did when I saw this topic was log into mailman, both because I was sure you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-04-03 Thread Austin Hair
Okay, but seriously, please stop resurrecting this thread. If you think it's important that something be done, start a new one, and *actually suggest something* rather than just copying articles from somewhere else. Austin On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-18 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: These off topic emails about the same subject Andreas grinds his axe about perpetually are pretty annoying. Can moderation do something please? I'm not sure what forum would be more on-topic, if not this one. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patrolling photographs of living people

2015-03-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-03-13 11:56 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: On 13 March 2015 at 09:06, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Fae, you are aware that this is NOT the list for en.wp, right? Perhaps you missed the part of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye

2015-02-24 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-24 15:52 GMT+01:00 Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com: On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bye

2015-02-24 Thread Austin Hair
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Federico Leva (Nemo), 22/02/2015 18:41: Moderators of this list are crazy, I was apparently put on moderation by Austin without expiry for forwarding a Commons-l message. I'll unsubscribe in 24 hours if I'm not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Report from the Wikimedia Foundation

2015-01-29 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Jan 29, 2015 4:35 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On an unrelated note, is there a particular reason we're highlighting two of our (more than two) former board members in the bottom section? Yes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Report from the Wikimedia Foundation

2015-01-29 Thread Austin Hair
I know Gerard is always saying this, but... wow. Yeah. It kind of hits you in the face. On an unrelated note, is there a particular reason we're highlighting two of our (more than two) former board members in the bottom section? Austin On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2015-01-29 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote: PS: no cheese pun in this email, but there was an abondance of puns above. You decided to have Murcian us? That's too bad; we're whey overdue in the humor department. Austin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap

2015-01-10 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:59 PM, mcc99 mc...@hotmail.com wrote: But if you think you or anyone else can intimidate me into staying quiet when I see something fundamentally wrong happening, guess again. Now to put it politely, at least to start with: Go climb a tree. Well... that was kind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group

2015-01-09 Thread Austin Hair
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 15-01-09 09:26 AM, Richard Symonds wrote: I believe mailman allows people to be added without confirmation too! It does, our list admins are just too polite to do that to people. This one is, at least. Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: White House response to Aaron Swartz petition

2015-01-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: For those unfamiliar with American political history in its brief existence, this is entirely expected. The power over who has the right to hire and fire whom has been the center of our politics since near

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group

2015-01-08 Thread Austin Hair
Yes. As stated in my original messages, you can (and should) use the report link at the bottom of the subscription e-mail. Austin On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Nurunnaby Hasive nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd wrote: +1 Karthik. Better to report the group. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Karthik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap

2015-01-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:30 PM, mcc99 mc...@hotmail.com wrote: But in future, I think I'll sign in more often, esp. now that half the WikiGods have my uid on an alert trigger now. :) I think the question is only being asked because you're displaying a profound lack of understanding of how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

2015-01-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Frankly, there's not a single thing I've read, or a single objection I've seen raised, that wasn't about how unnecessary it is to focus on women. I don't think we've ever heard that about the global south, or non-European

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Honorary degree for Wikipedia + meeting

2015-01-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: It is an honorary doctorate, not quite the same. As I understand it, it is not connected to a discipline. So, wait... you're saying that Wikipedia is not a real doctor, and I *shouldn't* be relying on it for medical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group

2015-01-07 Thread Austin Hair
Yes, it almost certainly is, and this isn't new to us. We dealt with this exact type of attack as recently as last month. Austin On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: This is probably related to a group that calls itself India Against Corruption.

[Wikimedia-l] Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group

2015-01-07 Thread Austin Hair
You may have already received a message indicating that you've been added to the Wikimedia-l Google Group; if not, you likely will soon. In case it's not clear, this Google Group is in no way affiliated with Wikimedia-l, the Wikimedia Foundation, me, or anybody you'd ever want to be friends with.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Austin Hair
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: It is time for a new strategic priority: closing the Community Gap. That is the gap between WMF and the local communities worldwide. It is not new, it exists for many years already. (It resulted also in the drama of the

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Board approval of FDC Recommendations Round 1 2014-2015

2014-12-30 Thread Austin Hair
Forwarding at Frieda's request. Austin -- Forwarded message -- From: Frieda Brioschi fbrios...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:19 PM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Board approval of FDC Recommendations Round 1 2014-2015 To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Gendergap-l] Another Admin falls +1

2014-12-24 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Dear Fae, On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:27:31 + Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Please ignore. This is yet more malicious and disruptive Job Jobbing of Russavia, and for all I know of shlomif too. Just for the record, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email

2014-12-23 Thread Austin Hair
I have, reluctantly, turned on moderation for new subscriptions, and told mailman to e-mail the admins whenever anyone subscribes. (Subscription will still be open.) It's my intention to unmoderate—as quickly as possible—anyone who's posted a few times and established that they're doing so in good

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email

2014-12-23 Thread Austin Hair
(Just to be clear, everyone already subscribed is still free to post. Only new signups going forward will be moderated by default, and only until they've demonstrated that they're not sockpuppets.) A On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: I have, reluctantly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-18 Thread Austin Hair
Mailman clobbers HTML sent to this list (for good reason), but if you'd like to see it in all its technicolor glory, here's the e-mail in question: http://bit.ly/1zCPGQZ (Sorry, future list archive perusers, that's not a permanent link.) Austin On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Liam Wyatt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-14 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I do not see why I should be wasting more time for IAC. Then please don't; there's enough nastiness in this thread as it is. Thanks, Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-14 Thread Austin Hair
I assert that you're absolutely disrupting this mailing list. I have banned this address, and will ban any others that surface from you or your tens of thousands of bot—sorry, members, intent on disrupting the list to pursue whatever agenda it is you're trying to shove in everyone's faces. Austin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Austin Hair
That's true of most project-specific discussions, but in this case, I don't think the answer to Commons isn't open to policy discussions is Go start a policy discussion on Commons. As long as Commons is meant to be a repository for the whole movement, I think it is fairly topical here. Austin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Austin Hair
Shut up, Russavia. I wouldn't normally be so curt with someone I just put on moderation, but apparently you think that's an appropriate tone to use on this list. Austin On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Oh cry me a river Nathan. What is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Austin Hair
Okay, guys, let's all take a step back and remember [[WP:Civility]]. (Yeah, I know that's a Wikipedia pillar, but can't we all at least get on board with that one?) The tone of this thread was accusatory from the start, and quickly went to vicious. Maybe everyone can try it again with a bit of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-05 Thread Austin Hair
Mr. Admin, I fully support both transparency and free speech, and would never suggest that you should be denied the right to ask the questions you're asking. I can, however, object to your use of the mailing list I administer (as a volunteer, in anticipation of your likely response) to ask those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Google Groups: You've been added to Gender Gap

2014-12-05 Thread Austin Hair
For the record, about an hour ago I permanently banned Site Admin, going so far as to create regex filters for his content. And no, Russavia, I didn't think it was you. Unfortunately, I can't do anything about the individual subscriptions—yes, I got one too. Austin On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Issue on Dutch Wikipedia in relation to BLP violating images

2014-12-01 Thread Austin Hair
C'mon, Kim, you know better. Keep it on IRC. Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread Austin Hair
Fae, Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of appeals for Wikimedia-related lists nor a bullhorn for your personal grievances. Austin On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Darcy, I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread Austin Hair
for that slip. Thanks, Fae On 23 November 2014 at 16:37, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: Fae, Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of appeals for Wikimedia-related lists nor a bullhorn for your personal

[Wikimedia-l] Post limits

2014-10-17 Thread Austin Hair
Toward the end of the month, I normally start watching the post count, since I know that thirty-post limit has a way of sneaking up on some people. Some months, this gets out of hand quickly, but I was surprised when the current count was brought to my attention just halfway through the month.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cryonics

2014-10-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend that the Foundation explore gender-inclusive cryonics solutions. I understand that supercooling vitrification freezers such as those manufactured by ABI, Ltd. of Chiba, Japan called CASfresh or Cells Alive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Specifying office action in edit summary?

2014-08-23 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:48 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: And then they draw comics stating that that's WMF's fault? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF_building_wiki_wall_in_August_2014_caricature.jpg What a wonderful community (clique of active editors and sysops) we

[Wikimedia-l] Brevity

2014-08-20 Thread Austin Hair
With 11 days remaining in August, I'd like to remind everyone that Wikimedia-l's guidelines[0] ask that subscribers keep their post count below at most 30 per month. This guideline exists to help curb the temptation to weigh in on absolutely every point raised, turning what could otherwise be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread Austin Hair
Yes, I temporarily placed Tomasz on moderation after his personal attacks on the list. I apologize for apparently not making this clear enough with my on-list warning. I spent most of yesterday afternoon traveling home from Wikimania, and have not seen any messages from him since. As the admin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odder on moderation?!

2014-08-12 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Current working practices on lists include never being informed that it happened and never getting a reply to a polite request of why the moderation is in place, along with there being no possibility of appeal or timely review. More

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: As this has wide-ranging implications, I have started an RFC on meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Superprotect_rights With that done, I'd like to ask that discussion on this topic be continued

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski twkozlow...@gmail.com wrote: Someone is definitely forgetting that Wikimedia wikis are not the Foundation's personal playground. You should be ashamed of yourself, Erik, and you should resign or be fired. And all volunteers should make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Letter to Lila Regarding Access to Non-Public Information Policy

2014-06-29 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com wrote: (I dunno, Chinese military intelligence, with whom arbitrator Timotheus Canens is said by some to be associated?) Seriously? I think you've gone on long enough for now. You can come off moderation when you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation (was Wikiconference USA in the media)

2014-06-19 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Please note that moderation is not a punishment: it is imposed as a measure to avoid future posts within a certain pattern of expectation when there are reasonable grounds to do so. Absolutely correct. Moderated posts

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please be considerate of everyone's time.

2014-06-17 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:14 AM, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: On 17/06/2014 00:23, Steven Walling wrote: The Wikimedia Foundation does not write nor edit content on Wikipedia, nor does it dictate editorial policy. I am aware of that, but (a) does that have to be the case anyway? If the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-17 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:26 PM, George William Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Conflating and comingling our educational role with open content advocacy was always risky and is proving impossible. Without devaluing open content, we need to separately support fair use for educational

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I think we all share a concern about the amount of drama in our community-wide discussions. Expressing outrage (even though it's sometimes appropriate and necessary) can often be the fuel of drama -- and I think it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: My point was straightforward: I would certainly not be bringing this topic up in a public forum if it had not been widely and extensively discussed in public forums beforehand. It was brought up by Wil, not by me. His

Re: [Wikimedia-l] So now the Wikipedia comes in handy to 'vouch' for 419 scams

2014-06-02 Thread Austin Hair
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-29 Thread Austin Hair
́Fae, You just did. Arguably, you did even worse by throwing the allegation out there without substantiation. Nobody's asking you to be friends with Greg Kohs—it's no secret that I'm not—but you're dredging up off-list history for no productive reason I can discern. Since I'm responsible for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

2014-05-29 Thread Austin Hair
Wil, Just for the record, hands-off is the best way to describe our approach to wikimedia-l moderation. We (the administrators) sometimes step in when a thread or a poster gets way out of control, but for this list, that bar's set pretty high. The soft post limit that's been pointed out to you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread Austin Hair
Guys... c'mon... Austin On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Sometimes I have the perception that it is not just not aligned but diverting more and more as time passes by.. M Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

2014-03-04 Thread Austin Hair
I think that if you stop to think about it another way, you'll find that this would do the opposite of what you intend, to wit: allowing various courts to impose editorial control. Imagine Circletine, once a popular childhood beverage but now the issue of some controversy regarding its tendency