Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi All, as someone around for 10+ years I must say never really felt reached out to by these initiatives. As the years passed I saw smaller and smaller chance to "get in" anywhere without building some sort of a(n) (international) wiki career first, what means years of stepping up on a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

2018-07-11 Thread Balázs Viczián
a_Foundation > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2017-11-17, > 18,19#Governance_Review > > Thanks, > Mike > > > On 11 Jul 2018, at 02:36, Balázs Viczián > wrote: > > > > This report is pretty useful in terms of comparing my chapter's policies &

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

2018-07-10 Thread Balázs Viczián
This report is pretty useful in terms of comparing my chapter's policies to this. Probably some fine tuning will follow. Thank you for sharing! Note the pattern: UK, Germany, France, all 'big' chapters. My guess is that the next one will very likely to be another 'large' chapter (100+ members,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Emerging Communities: a proposed new definition

2017-10-15 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi Asaf et All, Hope I won't get skipped because I barely talk on this list or in general on an international level but this proposal could have a long term effect on my chapter. Happy to see WMF is ready to start giving up at least a bit on geography or census numbers and shift focus to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi all, reading all the above, my 2 cents would be: Internal promotion (in a broader sense: a current or ex-employee or someone 'close and experienced enough'). First as interim (as a 'probation period') then if the staff feedback meets the pre-agreed satisfaction level on agreed key areas, as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-05 Thread Balázs Viczián
As long as the "cabal" who "took full control" of Wikimania is capable of fully organizing it (or able to set up an organizing team anywhere in the world), I think this is nothing else but a step called: professionalisation. Actually if it works well, it can bring this event to regions and places

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2014-15 Wikimedia Fundraising Report

2015-10-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, This job is pretty impressive, congratulations to the team :) Is there a per country breakdown available somewhere? Balázs 2015-10-02 18:56 GMT+02:00 Megan Hernandez : > Hi Rodrigo, > > Thank you for the question and for all your help with the latest Brazil >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-08 Thread Balázs Viczián
Relocating within the US or worldwide? Relocating the whole office or just some departments? Vince 2015-04-08 7:07 GMT+02:00 Aleksey Bilogur aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com: A logistical non-starter! They've got 200+ staff members, any gains to recruitment competitiveness will be quickly lost to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-08 Thread Balázs Viczián
My two cents would be that of what evil giant corporations do: move their departments to the best place possible regarding costs/competition. Software development in SF, customer service to India :) For example keeping the sofware somewhere in the Bay Area would keep the potential to attract

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Events and editathons with journalists

2015-03-01 Thread Balázs Viczián
Wikimedia Hungary did a workshop as well with sport journalists. What we learnt is to keep it simple (teaching the basics is enough) and brake it into multiple rounds (we broke it into two rounds - not enough) and make it interactive (edit together from the first to the last sec). Hope I helped

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email

2014-12-29 Thread Balázs Viczián
I think Fae, that this was plain rude either. Where can I read more about this case? Vince 2014-12-23 8:56 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email

2014-12-29 Thread Balázs Viczián
. Fae On 29 December 2014 at 11:28, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: I think Fae, that this was plain rude either. Where can I read more about this case? Vince 2014-12-23 8:56 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Magyarország Board Elections

2014-12-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi all, WMHU had its general assembly last Saturday where a new board was elected for the 2014 December - 2016 December period. Gervai, Péter - president (reelected) Balogh, Mónika - financial vice president (reelected) Bihary, Gábor - executive vice president Gyenes, Orsolya - board member

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC funds allocation recommendation is up

2014-11-25 Thread Balázs Viczián
In regards to the original problem brought up by Gerard, FDC is more or less on its maximum I think. Its members never did such (or similar) job(s) before FDC (the closest would be credit checks, but that is like and IEG grant review - it is pretty far from such a comprehensive grant -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC funds allocation recommendation is up

2014-11-25 Thread Balázs Viczián
people with experience from chapter boards, for instance. best, dariusz pundit On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@gmail.com wrote: Dariusz, I do not feel it is ungrounded at all. If you read carefully, all FDC members (including you) are talking about writing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC funds allocation recommendation is up

2014-11-25 Thread Balázs Viczián
25, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: Dariusz, as you said: it is not on your public FDC profile. How should I know all of this about you if it is completely missing from there? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2014-11-21 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hmm...I would love to *outsource *financial reporting to WMF together with a couple of other tasks as well (program evaluation for example). Imo the best would be to contact our (that is WM Hungary) accountant directly so they can get the data organized as wanted, on time, with explanations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2014-11-21 Thread Balázs Viczián
for its contents.* On 21 November 2014 11:38, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: Hmm...I would love to *outsource *financial reporting to WMF together with a couple of other tasks as well (program evaluation for example). Imo the best would be to contact our (that is WM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2014-11-21 Thread Balázs Viczián
Rupert, I doubt volunteer accounting is fun; most people actually hate it. Further mor, most people actually can not do it as it should at all. No wonder this is a separate profession. People can discuss your statement that wikipedia is not multinational on 200+ language version wikipedias :)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

2014-11-16 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi all, what Rubin says I think is that when the decision was made, WMF did not notify WM RU. The complete lack of communication. NOT what was discussed above; that was a complete misunderstanding of his words. What Rubin says in my reading is that once WMF made the decision, they should have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Balázs Viczián
imo (but maybe I'm sitting on the wrong direction on this horse) but once we have a program it can be installed to any suitable location. I think it would be great moving that way. WMF and a few chapters have dedicated people for event organizing, why not use them. Bidding would be then for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Chapters] Recognition of Wikimedia Belgium as a Wikimedia chapter by the WMF Board

2014-09-05 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congrats from Wikimedia Hungary! Balázs 2014.09.02. 19:46, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve ezt írta: Dear all, It is an honour for me to announce that during Wikimania, the WMF resolved [1] to recognise Wikimedia Belgium as a Wikimedia chapter. The resolution was made public a few

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New movement org?

2014-08-26 Thread Balázs Viczián
how did you find them? (and that fast) Balazs 2014.08.23. 22:45, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk ezt írta: Note that while it *is* a trademark issue, it isn't *just* a trademark issue. On 21 August 2014 18:44, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Richard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

2014-08-12 Thread Balázs Viczián
It seems that poor (and insufficient) communication is a pretty widespread problem at WMF. Balazs 2014-08-12 13:25 GMT+02:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com: Does either of you or anyone else see a valid reason to deny this seemingly reasonable and considered request? It's quite

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia User Group China

2014-07-31 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congratulations from 匈牙利 ! (hope it will read Hungary :) ) Balazs 2014-07-31 10:56 GMT+01:00 Katie Chan katie.c...@wikimedia.org.uk: Congratulations and 歡迎。 On 30 July 2014 22:22, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-30 19:16 GMT+02:00 Tonmoy Khan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Egypt Wikimedians User Group

2014-07-31 Thread Balázs Viczián
Let me join the line: Congrats, keep up the good work :) Balazs from WMHU 2014-07-30 23:35 GMT+01:00 Samir Ibrahim s4langu...@yahoo.com: Thanks for your delicate words everyone and thanks a million to Carlos for his support. I hope we can serve and support the Wiki community and the wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

2014-07-26 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, can someone sum up in a few sentences the discussion held on hangout earlier this week? Balazs 2014.07.17. 13:57, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@gmail.com ezt írta: Hi, thanks for the offer :) It would be highly useful. Cheers, Balazs 2014-07-14 19:38 GMT+01:00, Frans Grijzenhout

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
Bear in mind WikiPedia =/= WikiMedia. Imo all of the below and about 70-80% of the topics previously brough up in this thread can be solved/actioned/discussed/amended/etc by the community solely through Village Pump (or other relevant forums) without a single person involved (ever) from WMF or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

2014-07-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, WMHU would be interested in *hosting *a Hackathon in Hungary (anywhere) but we would need a couple of international volunteers to help filling the core of event (finding topics and speakers or building up the content in general). In exchange, the rest (from side events to the smallest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality on different language version

2014-06-09 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, I guess mgwp is in Malagasy, not Hungarian :) Cheers, Balazs being done. To ?provoke? I therefor list here my subjective impression after daily looking into the different version for 5-15 articles (new ones being created on sv.wp) (I list them in order how often I use them to calibrate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Input needed: Cooperation with zoos?

2014-05-29 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, I haven't heared any issues with animal treatment in Hungarian zoos (moreover the news I can recall reports continous improvement, like expanding getting renovated/modernised, etc.) I have no idea about the Serbian ones or the rest of the world. We've just completed a QR-project with a zoo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-10 Thread Balázs Viczián
You may also visit an overview of the financial information presented in these proposals, which includes information for all proposals in this round: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Financial_overview This page is empty. Vince

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational development for the Wikimedia movement

2014-04-28 Thread Balázs Viczián
the community to participate. 2014-04-28 11:30 GMT-05:00 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu: Hi all, pls correct me if I'm wrong, but WCA was aimed to do this (and already collected some materials) but ultimately failed due to the fact that from this basic idea it was quickly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Assessing this round of FDC proposals, including the WMF's proposal

2014-04-26 Thread Balázs Viczián
imo WMF is a mid-to-large sized IT company operating on a non-pofit basis. Whoever has _both_ the skillset (and history) of reviewing IT companies and charities, both types above 100+ employees can be considered capable of reviewing WMF as a whole. Cheers, Balazs 2014.04.25. 21:17, Michael Peel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Balázs Viczián
imo there are a whole bunch of organizations and projects much better aimed and developed towards this question; I'd rather map them and contact the most developed ones instead of reinventing the wheel. Cheers, Balazs PS: This because we can reasoning is very very thin btw. (source?) 2014-04-20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding of decentralized organizational structure

2014-04-10 Thread Balázs Viczián
Imo having a centralized funding model is very good against corruption (we had a couple of cases already and unfortunately we will some in the future) As a side comment, it would be nice if we could learn the total donations/country figures ( for example: Hungary 2013: $12,345.67) If this info is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-09 Thread Balázs Viczián
Imo the lines were said by a member of a board of a chapter in her official capacity as she was attending a board training paid fully by the global community (unless she paid everything on her own and never got reimbursed for anything) If you keep up with this approach (which will for sure

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Purpose of WMConf ( was: Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014)

2014-04-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFuture_of_the_Wikimedia_Conferencediff=5611433oldid=5611349 imo. Vince 2014-04-02 20:32 GMT+02:00 Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com: Yes, finally the discussion we need! Pity that it happens only one week before the conference

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-17 Thread Balázs Viczián
My five cents here would be that how about considering longer time frames for grants, like 2-3-5 years (I was too tired to understandably explain this yesterday to Anasuya) Here in Hungary individuals can offer 1% of their income tax to nonprofit organizations (these are accounted and transferred

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Basic income Wikimedians

2014-01-09 Thread Balázs Viczián
I like such proposals (sarcasm). where do you get the money from, what you wish to distribute? In general free money - less people will work (why to work if I still get money? - see the masses living on unemployment benefits - libre time :) ) - less people working - higher taxes - people will be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi all, As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short feedback about the program. I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining this, defining that sessions. And they are extremely long. Not a word about financial planning, not a word about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Balázs Viczián
...@gmail.com Thanks Balazs! All 20 spaces on the workshop are now taken. :) On 6 Dec 2013 18:48, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: Hi all, As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short feedback about the program. I see nothing practical, nothing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-10-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
I wrote a sort of a programme proposal on the talk page in June. If nothing else comes up, you may take that as a basis to start the discussion from somewhere. Find it under content. Cheers, Balazs User:Vince 2013/10/2 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Hey Chris, it's all on meta. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Balázs Viczián
2013 21:31, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme committee; who are they, what are their duties, etc. Cheers, Balázs 2013/9/16 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-18 Thread Balázs Viczián
, because both are being penalized by higher fees. We can find out where to have the event as late as early January Balazs 2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@gmail.com Hi, necessity and meaningfulness are not going hand-by-hand together. Frankly this event can be installed to any city

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

2013-09-16 Thread Balázs Viczián
Umm...I already wrote there a lot a month ago under my usernamed: Vince. Cheers, Balázs 2013.09.16. 21:42, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org ezt írta: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The next Wikimedia Conference (AKA Chapters' Meeting)

2013-08-31 Thread Balázs Viczián
There was some discussions between Claudia (WMAT) and Andrea (WMHU) during the PED worshop held in Budapest about hosting a joint Wikimedia Conference next year, maybe in Sopron (50mins from Vienna by train) or in Győr (1,5hrs from three major airports int the region - Budapest, Vienna and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF's New Global South Strategy

2013-08-29 Thread Balázs Viczián
What about making it simply global...? Balázs 2013.08.30. 2:44, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org ezt írta: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The first section was removed? I got excited to see the term Global South with a line through it (in the agenda

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF's New Global South Strategy

2013-08-29 Thread Balázs Viczián
What about making it simply global...? Balázs 2013.08.30. 2:44, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org ezt írta: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The first section was removed? I got excited to see the term Global South with a line through it (in the agenda

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (itwas: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Would be nice to see feasibility checks before outsourcing some tasks to chapters to make sure they are prepared for the task. Cheers, Balazs 2013/8/26 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com Hi Romaine, In the absence of any practical description of what an office on each populated continent would do,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Balázs Viczián
If you wish to educate board people, I think mailing lists and acronyms should not cover a full bulletpoint of the event because they should have that knowledge already I miss volunteer management in particular what is imo amongst the basic skills (it is totally different in many ways from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Well, both Hungary and Budapest aims to be the RD center of the region. There are multiple government and munipal funds and programmes plus a lot of favouring policies on both administrative levels, including a full dedicated neighbourhood on the bank of the Danube, named Infopark (since 1996 [1])

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread Balázs Viczián
Is WMF planning to outsource any of its engineering activities in the future? Or are there enough projects in the queue that makes the effort reasonable? Otherwise I believe there is no point for any chapter to build out any software engineering capacity above their local needs or at all. Balázs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: The most controversial topics in Wikipedia: A multilingual and geographical analysis

2013-07-23 Thread Balázs Viczián
are for different purposes that user talks and the village pump. However that's interesting that Hungarian Wikipedia prefer to take the discussion to other places than talk pages. szervusz Taha. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: As a Hungarian

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The most controversial topics in Wikipedia: A multilingual and geographical analysis

2013-07-22 Thread Balázs Viczián
You may contact them directly with your concerns what I guess many did after they published their study. here is their homepage: http://wwm.phy.bme.hu/ Cheers, Balázs 2013/7/21 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com Anders Wennersten wrote: A most interesting study looking at findings from 10

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: The most controversial topics in Wikipedia: A multilingual and geographical analysis

2013-07-22 Thread Balázs Viczián
As a Hungarian, it is really interesting to read something specific about the Hungarian Wikipedia :) I read somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong) that you found little to no discussions on article talk pages on the Hungarian Wikipedia, indicating that users barely discuss the content (or anything

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Uruguay recognized as newest chapter

2013-07-15 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congrats from WMHU! Balázs ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Hungary's strategic planning

2013-07-05 Thread Balázs Viczián
Awesome will be when you and everyone interested to give their 2 cents begins to participate in the discussions :) Balázs 2013/7/3 Sydney sydney.po...@gmail.com Awesome approach! Thanks for bringing attention to your community's discussion. I'm eager to see the ideas you all collect.

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Hungary's strategic planning

2013-07-03 Thread Balázs Viczián
(sorry for cross posting) Hello everyone, I'd like to invite you to Wikimedia Hungary's strategic planning discussions on http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikim%C3%A9dia_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g/Strat%C3%A9giai_c%C3%A9lok_(mint_szervezet) Don't get scared of the many Hungarian words, Google

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

2013-06-19 Thread Balázs Viczián
Interesting, strange and scary at the same time. Unfortunately I don't see much chance with such a program here in Hungary; at least not in that prison where I did time... 2x10 hours to do a contract photo job before christmas in 3 consecutive years :) I bet if you check the stats what pages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)

2013-06-18 Thread Balázs Viczián
WMHU had issues with the manual version of mass copying. One of the most known, highly active and trusted user (at that time already an admin) of WMHU, on the project for five years (from 2005) as of the date it was revealed in 2010, have copied over half of his 11.000+ articles that he created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Approval of Wikimedians of Nepal user group

2013-05-30 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congrats from WMHU too! Balázs 2013.05.30. 20:58, Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com ezt írta: Congratulations! Welcome to Wikimedia affilliates family. Count with Wikimedia Mexico as colaborator and with me as friend. Well done! El may 30, 2013 1:54 p.m., Dennis Tobar dennis.to...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] making tech journalism easier to read

2013-05-21 Thread Balázs Viczián
uh... tech speak in general is usually like Marsian to me, even if it is in my own language... might worth to put an effort into translating from geek to human (like obvious things that are really not so obvious for the masses) as well if you wish to improve readability :) Balazs 2013/5/21 Quim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffComs $40,000 Hong Kong junket

2013-05-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
40k for a single meetup can be justified if the results worth that much money. (I've already argued about this regarding Milan chapters meetup btw). Providing a more than basic travel and accomodation can be a way of appreciation as well for their work, what they do as volunteers, that should be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effectiveness of meetings (Was: Affcom ...)

2013-05-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
, and not simply to play tourist. Lodewijk 2013/5/14 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu 40k for a single meetup can be justified if the results worth that much money. (I've already argued about this regarding Milan chapters meetup btw). Providing a more than basic travel and accomodation can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effectiveness of meetings (Was: Affcom ...)

2013-05-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
in 'new' countries. However, this is of course different for large international events with many participants. Anyway, I am glad to hear you're not trying to compare different categories of events with each other. Lodewijk 2013/5/14 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu I see a few

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania, or other events done by a third party?

2013-05-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hello everyone, Wikimedia Hungary has recieved an interesting sales pitch today if we can call a two liner that. One of the largest Hungarian travelling agency's department (or subsidiary?) for conference tourism have expressed interest in organizing a Wikimania in Budapest, Hungary in 2015 in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The one-employee secretariat model

2013-05-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
I've discussed this issue in my state of the movement presentation [1] summing up our experiences so far. Balazs [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:State_of_WMHU.pdf 2013.05.02. 0:36, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com ezt írta: 2013/5/1 Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com: True.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2014: London

2013-05-02 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congrats from WMHU and thanks for the mug! :) Balázs 2013/5/2 Tonmoy Khan tonmoy...@gmail.com Congratulations to WMUK London! Wish all the success for Wikimania 2014. Cheers Tonmoy On May 2, 2013 4:07 AM, Charles Gregory wmau.li...@chuq.net wrote: Congratulations WMUK and the London

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The value of Wikipedia for the economy

2013-04-08 Thread Balázs Viczián
Just measure up the homework-for-hire market, what Wikipedia had almost ruined; that would be already millions of $ worldwide :) B. 2013/4/8 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org However, those numbers are not exactly what I'm looking for. I do not want to know what it would be worth as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
I'd love to see this available to buy as a T-shirt: [1] and these posters [2] (here, in Hungary we have plans to do both) btw Wikimedia Hungary had some own merchandise too [3] [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_-_T-shirt.jpg [2]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Armenia

2013-03-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congrats from Hungary! cheers, Balázs 2013/3/27 Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com Dear all, I am happy to announce that the the WMF Board of Trustees have resolved to recognize Wikimedia Armenia as the newest Wikimedia chapter:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-25 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hello everyone, I've read the log of this conversation; is there any success ratio set already? If not, might be good to take the ratio of how many new registrations are becoming regular contributors. (if 1/100 new registrations, then 1%) The general online marketing success ratio is somewhere

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Hungary expanding

2013-03-22 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi everyone, Wikimedia Hungary had rented its first office (33sqm or 350sq feet, good for meetings up to 20~25ppl) and hired its first full time (administrative) employee, so I'm happy to tell you, if you'll ever happen to be in or around Budapest, feel free to drop by in our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Hungary expanding

2013-03-22 Thread Balázs Viczián
: @jaancornelius Mobile: +49-1520-7226062 On 22 March 2013 10:29, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: Hi everyone, Wikimedia Hungary had rented its first office (33sqm or 350sq feet, good for meetings up to 20~25ppl) and hired its first full time (administrative) employee, so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Balázs Viczián
the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs 2013.03.16. 14:17, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org ezt írta: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Balázs Viczián
Didn't know, the last time I was working for the Brazilian market was in 2011; should update my knowledge :) Balázs 2013/3/17 James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: the favorit social media site in Brazil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
from that, we searched for a very really central city in Europe, which is in fact - Brussels. Best, Jan 2013/3/6 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu Errr...the chapters conference in Milan will be two weeks later, why don't you integrate this into the schedule of that instead

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
Such a meeting can be done over lunchtime any day or after the conference (which I guess would finish somewhere around lunch on Sunday so it can be on a weekend) or paralell to the schedule; there are plenty of options if you're interested in a solution. Cheers, Balázs 2013/3/7 Lodewijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
is unclear to me (question to the organizers) is whether any travel support etc would be available, or that it should be requested through the local chapter. Also, can we already sign up somewhere? Best, Lodewijk 2013/3/7 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu Hi Jan, Typically

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-03-06 Thread Balázs Viczián
Errr...the chapters conference in Milan will be two weeks later, why don't you integrate this into the schedule of that instead? Balazs 2013/3/6 Jan Engelmann jan.engelm...@wikimedia.de Hi all, a clear majority voted for the 6th/7th of april as the most suitable date for the meeting. We are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-02-28 Thread Balázs Viczián
I'd suggest a thematic meeting in Milan about this, what could be a kickoff too Balazs 2013/2/28 Jan Engelmann jan.engelm...@wikimedia.de Hi Jon, thanks a lot for your encouriging words! Would be great to have somebody from the UK with us right from the start, the preferred option for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are chapters part of the community and board seats for affiliates?

2013-02-22 Thread Balázs Viczián
I believe chapters are tools for the local communities to achieve certain goals that otherwise would be very difficult or (almost) impossible, and a great aid in local community building. Balazs 2013.02.22. 19:41, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com ezt írta: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-02-20 Thread Balázs Viczián
I believe this will be the task of the future Belgian chapter what is - if I'm correct - just forming. No need to have two chapters there. Balazs 2013/2/20 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimit...@gmail.com Hi all, I guess the non-partisan part is not even a quesiton, but rather a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-02-20 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, if there ever will be a WCA or something like that, then this will be a task for them imo. For the time being, mapping could be done by the future Belgian chapter or by some interested local volunteers. Balazs 2013/2/20 Jan Engelmann jan.engelm...@wikimedia.de Hi Balázs, I believe this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

2013-02-20 Thread Balázs Viczián
I've replied on two things: regarding info collecting, that you were discussing, I believe WMBE can handle it (collecting names and numbers), no need for a chapter to the EU there imo. Regarding actual lobbying, representation and stuff - an international cooperation, like WCA (but not in its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, sorry, no offense meant, but all of you are keep saying the same things again and again. At least a dozen times I've read lines, like don't focus on this, focus on that or let me say WCA recruiting athough you dropped that idea about two weeks ago (really?) I'd like to help you with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New members for the Affiliations Committee

2013-02-13 Thread Balázs Viczián
Congrats to all! Just one small thing: you put 2012 in the header of the meta page, but it's 2013 for some time now :) Balazs 2013/2/13 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Dear all, As you may have noticed, in December there was a call for new members for the affiliations committee. The