Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

This is really an exciting news. This ambitious project will fill up the
knowledge gaps in different languages for sure and will definitely play a
vital role in preserving endangered and near-extinct languages in future.

Best wishes,
Bodhisattwa



On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 21:54 Brion Vibber  wrote:

> I'm extremely excited about this project!
>
> Not only will this be directly useful on its own (and a fascinating project
> in its own right!), but it will help our volunteer editors to ramp up good
> base material to work with on the "prose" Wikipedias we already know and
> love.
>
> The idea is really to make the structured data we've all been putting into
> Wikidata available in a human-readable form at a big scale, that's still
> able to be shaped and made into something real and readable by human
> editors. By moving around where in the chain the data gets expressed as
> human language, we hope to make something that's just as editable but much
> more maintainable in the future and across multiple languages.
>
> -- brion
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:04 AM Katherine Maher 
> wrote:
>
> > (A translatable version of this announcement can be found on Meta [1])
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia [1], a new project that
> has
> > been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees.
> > Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic
> > content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more
> > readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach that
> > aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase
> the
> > sustainability of our movement through expanding access to participation,
> > improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate in
> > free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to
> > create something new.
> >
> > This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia was
> > submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May of 2020 [2]
> after
> > years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and lively
> > discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and the
> > creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers, and
> > information that is available in one language may not make it to other
> > language Wikipedias. Abstract Wikipedia intends to look and feel like a
> > Wikipedia, but build on the powerful, language-independent conceptual
> > models of Wikidata, with the goal of letting volunteers create and
> maintain
> > Wikipedia articles across our polyglot Wikimedia world.
> >
> > The project will allow volunteers to assemble the fundamentals of an
> > article using words and entities from Wikidata. Because Wikidata uses
> > conceptual models that are meant to be universal across languages, it
> > should be possible to use and extend these building blocks of knowledge
> to
> > create models for articles that also have universal value. Using code,
> > volunteers will be able to translate these abstract “articles” into their
> > own languages. If successful, this could eventually allow everyone to
> read
> > about any topic in Wikidata in their own language.
> >
> > As you can imagine, this work will require a lot of software development,
> > and a lot of cooperation among Wikimedians. In order to make this effort
> > possible, Denny will join the Foundation as a staff member in July and
> lead
> > this initiative. You may know Denny as the creator of Wikidata, a
> long-time
> > community member, a former staff member at Wikimedia Deutschland, and a
> > former Trustee at the Wikimedia Foundation[3]. We are very excited that
> > Denny will bring his skills and expertise to work on this project
> alongside
> > the Foundation’s product, technology, and community liaison teams.
> >
> > It is important to acknowledge that this is an experimental project and
> > that every Wikipedia community has different needs. This project may
> offer
> > some communities great advantages. Other communities may engage less.
> Every
> > language Wikipedia community will be free to choose and moderate whether
> or
> > how they would use content from this project.
> >
> > We are excited that this new wiki-project has the possibility to advance
> > knowledge equity through increased access to knowledge. It also invites
> us
> > to consider and engage with critical questions about how and by whom
> > knowledge is constructed. We look forward to working in cooperation with
> > the communities to think through these important questions.
> >
> > There is much to do as we begin designing a plan for Abstract Wikipedia
> in
> > close collaboration with our communities. I encourage you to get involved
> > by going to the project page and joining the new mailing list[4]. We
> > recognize that Abstract Wikipedia is ambitious, but we also recognize its
> > potential. We 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Update on Branding

2020-06-22 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Nataliia,

Thank you for your statement as the current Chair of WMF Board of Trustees.

If the Wikimedia Foundation wants to change its name and if it has the
right to do whatever it can, then I can just hope that WMF has considered
all the consequences. But I am confused on how affiliates are dragged into
this and how this survey considers affiliates within its scope. Affiliates
are governed by different boards or other governance structures and they
have different Bylaws, which govern them. Many of them are registered and
have to follow their native country's laws. WMF board cannot dictate them
to change as per this survey. Even if some affiliates plan to change their
names, who will take care of all the legal issues which will come to them
while accepting the name Wikipedia? Who will take care of all the
volunteers and affiliate members from the oppressive regimes, when they
will be harassed or arrested for displaying disputed maps on Wikipedia not
compliant with country's laws, or for some information about the country's
dictator or the ruling party etc.?

Many of us find no reason and are still not convinced to fill up this
survey. It is a closed survey and there are only three such options, which
seemed ridiculous to many of us. To me, it looks like that if we are being
given three choices whether to 1) jump from a six-storeyed building and die
2) get hanged and die or 3) take Organophosphate poison and die and rate
among them which one we prefer. I don't know about others, but obviously,
none of these three options are acceptable to me as a good choice of death.
The survey has given us a fourth option where we can give our choice, but
considering the brand team has ignored all the discussions on meta and
other platforms, how will we believe that the fourth option will be duly
taken care of. How will it be ensured that transparency will be there while
dealing with the survey results? Personally, I don't find any reason to
believe after the RfC was totally ignored.

In your statement, you have not said anything about how the WMF will
support the sister projects in the future, after you even plan to change
their movement tag. Do you commit to not ignore the sister projects any
more and invest significantly on them, so that they can flourish with their
true potential? How do you plan to preserve the separate identity and
autonomy of the sister project communities after you tag them as Wikipedia
project?

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 06:14, Nataliia Tymkiv  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As Acting Chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees since March
> [1] I take full responsibility for this situation. I am truly sorry for all
> the frustration this whole situation has caused to volunteers, who have
> engaged in discussions expressing their concerns, and to the staff, who
> have been working and not really sure if that is really the direction the
> Board is prepared to seriously consider, or if it is just an exercise on
> our part. As Chair of the Board, I recognize the Board owes clear
> information to the communities and guidance to the staff.
>
> In 2017, the Board approved the 2030 Movement Strategic Direction,
> recognizing the strategic importance of growing the reach of the Wikimedia
> projects to new languages, communities, and geographies, as part of our
> global mission. In June 2018, the Board approved a Foundation Annual Plan
> that included research into the Wikimedia and Wikipedia brands to
> understand how they could be tools in helping us reach these goals.
>
> In November 2018 [2], the staff presented research to the Board about the
> Wikipedia and Wikimedia brands. I personally, even though a relatively long
> term Wikipedian (and a bit less long term Wikimedian), was basically
> convinced by the findings that a rebranding is needed and beneficial for
> our mission and global vision, and furthermore that it should be based on
> the Wikipedia brand. The information presented there also convinced the
> Board that the team should continue their work, but as you can see from the
> minutes the Board believed that communication is crucial, but already a
> possibility for a new name for the Wikimedia Foundation was seriously
> considered [3].
>
> And I am going to be frank here - intuitively taking the name of something
> like “Wikipedia Foundation” makes a lot of sense, whether or not it makes
> sense upon deeper consideration. But, of course, no one was planning to
> just rename the organisation, more conversations were needed. It was
> convincing enough for us (the Board) to approve the budget for this
> initiative.
>
> The Board has received regular updates about the Brand work along the way,
> including approving continued work in the 2019 and 2020 annual plans.
> However, the Board has not yet had a very serious, frank conversation about
> what the Board will do when the work is finished, including how to balance
> feedback from many communities, and the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Ilario,

If you check this link <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/faq>, you can find it
written at the Terms and Conditions section - *The actual contents are
subject to the copyright laws of the respective data providers as the
authors or publishers retain copyright to these works which are used by NDL
India with permission.*

It is the practice for any government agency like NDLI to sign a MoU or
other form of contracts with other organizations, before engaging with them
in any way. Although I can't speak for NDLI, but it is extremely likely
that they have partnered with Worldebooklibrary and others officially.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa



On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 23:38, Ilario valdelli  wrote:

> Thank you for that,
>
> I have checked some languages but it seems that this digital library
> have books of some languages completely taken from Project Gutenberg
> (http://www.gutenberg.org) or from World Ebook Library
> (http://www.worldebooklibrary.org/) and they have their own licenses.
>
> It's not clear what is the library for whom the NDLI owns the copyrights
> and they can donate.
>
> Kind regards
>
> On 14/03/2020 09:38, Bodhisattwa Mandal wrote:
> > Through this understanding, we will work together on:
> >
> > - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
> > <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/>
> > - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
> > metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
> websites.
> > - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
> and
> > Wikisource.
> > - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
> > Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
> >
> --
> Ilario Valdelli
> Wikimedia CH
> Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
> Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre
> Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera
> Switzerland - 8008 Zürich
> Wikipedia: Ilario
> Skype: valdelli
> Tel: +41764821371
> http://www.wikimedia.ch
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Nicolas,

Thanks for your reply and interest in the partnership.

It was discussed during the Delhi meeting that as a first step, NDLI will
come up with a unique authority control for the authors listed in their
website and we will match them with corresponding Wikidata items, thus
starting to link Wikidata content with NDLI website. The process was
expected to initiate from January, but due to some other other commitments
from NDLI as a government agency, it has not been started yet.

As a major part of this partnership will largely depend on the data model
stated in Wikidata WikiProject Books
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Books>, we need works
and their editions on different Wikisource projects properly linked with
Wikidata exactly following the data model. For Indian language Wikisources,
I can say, the linkages are still very low. It would be great, if we can
collaboratively engage as many as Wikisource communities as possible to
start linking their contents on Wikidata. We definitely need suggestions
and all kinds of help there organizing this.

We appreciate if highly experienced community members like you share inputs
and insight w.r.t. this collaboration. Please feel free to do so
pro-actively at any time.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa




On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 15:49 Nicolas VIGNERON, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>
> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
>> National
>> Digital Library of India
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India>
>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>> Ministry
>> of Human Resource Development
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development>
>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur>
>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
>> literature metadata.
>>
>> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>>
>>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>><https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/>
>>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
>>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>>and Wikisource.
>>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>>
>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
>> finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
>> Digital Library Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an
>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
>> Delhi
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>,
>> where WMF was a technical partner.
>>
>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
>> mailing lists.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
>> CIS-A2K
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[Wikimedia-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all,

It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
that National
Digital Library of India
 (NDLI),
Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have
signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a
2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a Ministry of
Human Resource Development

project, developed at IIT Kharagpur

which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
literature metadata.

Through this understanding, we will work together on:

   - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
   
   - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
   metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
   - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata and
   Wikisource.
   - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
   Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
Digital Library Design 2019,  an international
conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT Delhi
, where
WMF was a technical partner.

Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
mailing lists.

Regards,
Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Summit 2020 in Berlin cancelled

2020-02-28 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hello,

Thank you for letting us know.

Your message has been conveyed to our representative who was going to be
participating in the "physical" Summit from our side. We will wait for your
instruction on the process of the upcoming virtual meetings.

Thank you for thinking about the health of the participants.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 01:10, Risker  wrote:

> Thank you for informing the global community of this.  More importantly,
> thank you for recognizing that the safety and well-being of the global
> community should take precedence over a meeting.  This is the way to "walk
> the talk" about community safety.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 14:06, Abraham Taherivand <
> abraham.taheriv...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > It’s with regret that we have to inform you that due to the global health
> > situation (COVID-19), the physical meeting of the Wikimedia Summit 2020
> and
> > related side events in Berlin have been cancelled.
> >
> > Since we currently look into hosting the Summit in a series of virtual
> > meetings, starting at the dates of the Summit, please keep the dates
> > blocked in your calendar.
> >
> > We are aware that this announcement will cause many questions (not only
> in
> > relation to the Summit). Please be patient, more information will follow
> > from our teams in the next few days.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Abraham Taherivand, Executive Director Wikimedia Deutschland
> >
> > Katherine Maher, Executive Director Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Geschäftsführender Vorstand / Executive Director
> >
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> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
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[Wikimedia-l] Annual activity report of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2020-02-16 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all,

We are pleased to share with you  our annual activity report for the year
2019.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians/Reports/Annual_Activities/2019

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Dehalvi Wikimedia Community User Group

2019-07-18 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

It's so great to see another user group emerging in India, bringing forward
another diverse community representation and voice. Hope the UGs in India,
together, will further strengthen the open knowledge movement.

Best of luck and congratulations, Dehlavi Wikimedia Community UG.


Bodhisattwa,
on behalf of
West Bengal Wikimedians UG

On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, 04:25 Kirill Lokshin,  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Dehalvi Wikimedia Community User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User
> Group. The group aims to promote Urdu-language Wikimedia projects in India.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Dehalvi_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dehalvi_Wikimedia_User_Group
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[Wikimedia-l] International Mother Language Day 2019 data-thon

2019-02-20 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all,

The International Mother Language Day 2019 data-thon

has started today. Everyone is welcome to join.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-17 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Micru,

I am interested about your thoughts about governance recommendation for the
movement and community model of affiliates.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 12:14 Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin <
f...@yandex.com wrote:

> Micru,
> I would be interested to learn about "External perception of the
> movement".part of your insights.
> Thanks.
>
> from Russia with love,
> farhad
> https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region
>
> --
> Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 /
> skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU:
>
>
> 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" :
> > Hello,
> >
> > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people from
> > different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat,
> > democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four speakers in a
> > "world cafe" format (basically a circle where participants can
> > interact with the speaker). I represented the Wikimedia movement in
> > general, with the intention that participants would learn from our
> > movement, and so that I would learn from them. There were also Open
> > Space sessions.
> >
> > If there is interest, I can share with you my insights on any of these
> topics:
> > - External perception of the movement
> > - Recommendations to the WMF
> > - Governance recommendations for the movement
> > - Community model for affiliates
> > - How to increase diversity
> >
> > There is a lot to say about each topic, so please ask only about the
> > topic you have genuine interest in. If there is no interest, I'm ok
> > keeping it to myself.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Micru
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Kerala User Group

2018-10-16 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Congrats Wikimedians of Kerala User Group. It's great to see another user
group from India. Looking forward for working together.

Bodhisattwa
West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018, 01:11 Kirill Lokshin,  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> [1] the Wikimedians of Kerala User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The
> group will be working on various Wikimedia projects related to the
> Malayalam language.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
>
> Regards,
> Kirill Lokshin
> Chair, Affiliations Committee
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_of_Kerala_User_Group
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Kerala_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign video release

2018-09-30 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Sorry,

The links of the youtube videos were not correctly shared by me previously.
I am sharing them again.

* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD2xOml8MQ> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebC4-bxhp8> (World at your doorstep)

Thanks Abhinav for pointing that out.

Many apologies,
Bodhisattwa

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 08:59, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
> videos have been released in Youtube channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
> Wikimedians user Group
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
> was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.
>
> The project was first placed in IdeaLab
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
> as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
> grant
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
> The details can be found here
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.
>
> The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
> happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
> * লে হালুয়া
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
> (What just happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
> (Watchful eyes)
> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The video production could have not been possible without -
> * Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
> Kolkata)
> * Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
> * Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
> * Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
> * Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
> * Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
> * Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
> * Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
> * Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
> * Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
> Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
>
>- * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
>Morshed, Jayanta Nath
>- * WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)
>
>
> It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
> the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
> submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.
>
> Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
> languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
> and Commons.
>
> Enjoy!!
>
> Thanks,
> Bodhisattwa
> Bengali Wikisource community
> West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
>


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bengali Wikisource awareness campaign videos

2018-09-30 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Sorry,

The links of the youtube videos were not correctly shared by me previously.
I am sharing them again.

* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD2xOml8MQ> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebC4-bxhp8> (World at your doorstep)

Thanks Abhinav for pointing that out.

Many apologies,
Bodhisattwa

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 09:05, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> [Sorry for not adding the subject in the previous mail, many apologies]
>
> We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
> videos have been released in Youtube channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
> Wikimedians user Group
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
> was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.
>
> The project was first placed in IdeaLab
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
> as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
> grant
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
> The details can be found here
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.
>
> The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
> happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
> * লে হালুয়া
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
> (What just happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
> (Watchful eyes)
> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The video production could have not been possible without -
> * Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
> Kolkata)
> * Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
> * Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
> * Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
> * Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
> * Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
> * Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
> * Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
> * Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
> * Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
> Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
> * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
> Morshed, Jayanta Nath
> * WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)
>
> It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
> the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
> submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.
>
> Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
> languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
> and Commons.
>
> Enjoy!!
>
> Thanks,
> Bodhisattwa
> Bengali Wikisource community
> West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
>


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[Wikimedia-l] Bengali Wikisource awareness campaign videos

2018-09-30 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all,

[Sorry for not adding the subject in the previous mail, many apologies]

We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
videos have been released in Youtube channel
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
Wikimedians user Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.

The project was first placed in IdeaLab
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
grant
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
The details can be found here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.

The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)

The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
* লে হালুয়া
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
(What just happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
(Watchful eyes)
* দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
(World at your doorstep)

The video production could have not been possible without -
* Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
Kolkata)
* Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
* Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
* Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
* Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
* Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
* Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
* Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
* Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
* Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
* Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
Morshed, Jayanta Nath
* WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)

It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.

Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
and Commons.

Enjoy!!

Thanks,
Bodhisattwa
Bengali Wikisource community
West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
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[Wikimedia-l] Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign video release

2018-09-30 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all,

We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
videos have been released in Youtube channel
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
Wikimedians user Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.

The project was first placed in IdeaLab
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
grant
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
The details can be found here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.

The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)

The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
* লে হালুয়া
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
(What just happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
(Watchful eyes)
* দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
(World at your doorstep)

The video production could have not been possible without -
* Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
Kolkata)
* Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
* Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
* Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
* Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
* Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
* Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
* Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
* Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
* Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
- * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
Morshed, Jayanta Nath
- * WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)

It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.

Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
and Commons.

Enjoy!!

Thanks,
Bodhisattwa
Bengali Wikisource community
West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource Handbook

2018-09-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Mathieu,

I have no problem re-licensing the book at all. I assume, Ananth will
confirm soon from his part. He also assured me that he will start working
on the meta version soon.

I was responsible for creating the draft of the handbook and I have the
draft text version with me. I guess, the finalized text version is with
Ananth as he did the rest of the work of designing and finalizing the
handbook. I guess, he will share the text version soon, so that it can be
translated into other languages, including Indic languages.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa




On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 18:00, mathieu lovato stumpf guntz <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Hey Peter, thank you for the incitive to go on.
>
> Actually, I didn't watched the license before, but it's CC-by-sa-4.0, so
> as it is, I couldn't copy/paste it into a Wikimedia wiki, as most of
> them are CC-by-3.0, and the other licenses used on some wiki are even
> less possibly compatible. I have little doubt Ananth and Bodhisattwa
> will grant us persmission to also publish the document under the
> CC-by-sa-3.0, but we still need their consent.
>
> More importantly, my implicit questioning was "were could I find the
> original working document of from which this PDF was generated from?".
> Sure we can always make copy/paste from the PDF, but having the working
> document is often far more useful as a base to wikify.
>
> Thank you again to Ananth and Bodhisattwa for the document, I hope we
> will be able to make a wiki version together, and thank you Peter for
> pointing the license issue and the lake of explicit demand for the
> working document.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Le 14/09/2018 à 13:53, Peter Southwood a écrit :
> > It is CC-by-sa. Of course you can.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of mathieu lovato stumpf guntz
> > Sent: 14 September 2018 10:25
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Ananth Subray;
> wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource Handbook
> >
> > Great, thank you.
> >
> > Could we also launch a Wiki version that would allow localizations, for
> > example on Meta or Wikibooks?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Le 11/09/2018 à 20:25, Ananth Subray a écrit :
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> We all know that Wikisource is one of the trending Wikimedia projects.
> We
> >> are getting many new editors and new books to Indic language
> Wikisource's.
> >> At the same time, we even noticed that there are many problems faced by
> the
> >> new editors and a few of the existing editors.  To help all of the
> editors
> >> we have created a Handbook titled as *Wikisource Handbook for Indic
> >> communities
> >> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikisource_Handbook_for_Indian_Communities.pdf
> >.
> >> *Which is now available[1] to everyone to make the best use of it. I
> >> request everyone to share this with all those who are in need of
> support in
> >> editing Wikisource.
> >>
> >>
> >> Authors of the book: Bodhisattwa Mandal and Ananth Subray P V.
> >>
> >>
> >> [1].
> >>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikisource_Handbook_for_Indian_Communities.pdf
> >>
> >> Thanks and Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> *ANANTH SUBRAY P V*
> >>
> >> Programme Associate
> >>
> >> Access to Knowledge program
> >>
> >> The Centre for Internet & Society
> >>
> >> +91-9739811664
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

2018-08-08 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Congratulations Santali community. Thanks to Wikimedia Bangladesh and Odia
Wikimedians User Group for the all the support.

West Bengal Wikimedians User Group will be happy to work together in future
to grow Santali Wikimedia community in the state of West Bengal.

Looking forward,
Bodhisattwa

On 8 Aug 2018 11:31 pm, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:

Amazing news. Congratulations and best wishes.

Thanks
Tito Dutta
Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
me over email or phone call.


On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 23:01, Jean-Philippe Béland 
wrote:


> Congratulations and thank you for sharing your experience!
>
> JP
> User:Amqui
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
> psubhash...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Thank you Haidar for sharing in details about the amazing support that
> > Wikimedia Bangladesh has provided to the community there. Kudos to the
> > Santali community for this achievement and all the best for their
> > activities. And Odia Wikimedians User Group will continue to work with
> them
> > more in the future.
> >
> > Subhashish
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
> > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and
organization
> > can
> > > take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!
> > >
> > > בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
> > > tonmoy...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language
> > Wikipedia
> > > (
> > > > https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2,
> > 2018
> > > > and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> > > > maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own
> > alphabet,
> > > > Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali
is
> > > > a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken
> by
> > > > around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and
> Nepal).
> > > >
> > > > This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible
> because
> > > of
> > > > the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh,
> > India
> > > > and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> > > > congratulates the Santali Language Community for their
accomplishment
> > and
> > > > are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik
> Soren, a
> > > > dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very
> > active
> > > > Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> > > > instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab
> > Mustafa,
> > > > President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active
> > steward
> > > > and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort
in
> > > > Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the
> effort
> > in
> > > > India.
> > > >
> > > > It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali
> Language
> > > > Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February,
> 2017.
> > > Back
> > > > in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and
> workshop
> > > > with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of
> Bangladesh
> > > with
> > > > the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that
> > process
> > > > slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia
> > Bangladesh
> > > > organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> > > > Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of
> > the
> > > > Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017.
> > Santali
> > > > Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program
> > through
> > > > online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for
> > > Santali
> > > > Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with
> > Odia
> > > > Wikimedians User Group.
> > > >
> > > > After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> > > > Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali
> Wikipedia
> > > site
> > > > was launched on August 2, 2018.
> > > >
> > > > Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Ali Haidar Khan
> > > >
> > > > Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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[Wikimedia-l] Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS

2018-07-10 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

I accidentally checked this meta page

today, when another editor forwarded me the link in Facebook. Here it has
been proposed that admins will be stripped off to edit js/css pages because
of security reasons. The way this is being handled is rather disturbing to
me.

1) Not all communities have been informed about this future change (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Distribution_list/Technical_Village_Pumps_distribution_list
)

2) The comments in the meta talk page suggests that there is no intention
to get opinions from editor community members. Everything seems to be
pre-decided by the developer community and we dont have other options but
to accept the proposal without proper discussion.
(
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Creation_of_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS
)

3) Many admins from smaller wikis have expressed their concerns that this
decision will severely affect the workflow of those wikis, but none of
these concerns are addressed.

4) Many editors have expressed concern over just 2 week short notice period
for this transition. But that concern is also not addressed.

Regards,

Bodhisattwa
Bengali community
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-09 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi David,

I hear you.

I live in that part of the world where getting any job and earning money,
by any means possible, is the topmost priority of life, as unemployment and
corruption has become intimate part of most of the people. Involvement in
volunteer works with no personal or financial gain, is not appreciated at
all and sanity is frequently questioned even by family members and close
friends. The real life is far more harsh for us than the issues we face in
Wikipedia.

But, I have seen people, who have fought against all extreme odds to create
contents in Wikimedia. I met an Wikimedian, who would have no food or money
for the next day to survive, if he didn't go and look for some labour work
and earn some money for his family, yet learned advanced computer works
from scratch with the help of a Jurassic age broken laptop gifted by a
well-wisher and built the most impactful project in his language, believe
me, I have seen that laptop with my own eyes. I know someone, very close to
my heart, who once spent the small amount of money he had with him, to pay
the cyber cafe, he went almost everyday to edit Wikipedia, even if he knew,
that the money he was spending, was his last resort for that day. These
Wikimedians are no less than a legend to me and whenever I feel frustrated
and burnt out, I remember them. I am pretty sure, everyone in this movement
knows someone amazing.

You are absolutely right, people who build Wikipedia from their core of
their heart are not heard or appreciated in larger Wikimedia world, some of
them are silently contributing forl a long time , without any expectation
from anyone. On the other hand, I have seen loud mouths  with almost no
substantial or impactful contribution at all, being featured everywhere on
a regular basis. That's an unfair world we everyday deal with and Wikimedia
is not an exception.

I will totally support you, if you create a meta page for these silent
volunteers, who needs to be seen.

Best,
Bodhisattwa



On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, 01:56 David Cuenca Tudela,  wrote:

> Aubrey,
>
> You speak so much truth in your words that I'm feeling overwhelmed right
> now. Because like a doctor who cares about his patient, you have just very
> lovingly and figuratively told me, "you are deeply sick". It hurts, I
> struggle accepting the truth, but deep inside I know that the only thing I
> can do is to acknowledge your words, and as every human before of me ask
> the perennial questions: "why me? what could have I done differently?"
>
> You are right, I put my whole being into this project, I have seen it as a
> way to find purpose, meaning, liberation, and instead what I have found is
> the emptiness, my own and that of the people who are in the same situation
> as me. Maybe they also need the same things as I do, but we never talked
> about it so I don't know what they need, they never told me. Unlike other
> people, however, I do know what I need to find purpose here.
>
> To me purpose comes from the mutual acknowledgment with my peers that we
> are here for something bigger than ourselves. We might never achieve those
> dreams, but being next to someone who understands you because they are in
> the same situation, makes life more bearable. But do we share the same
> dream or aspiration at all? Has anyone ever take a collective vow to show
> to themselves and to others that this is what matters in their life, and
> that they are committing to it? I do not think anyone has ever done that.
> You say that you have given up, but I do not want to reach that point. I
> feel I want to try to build a real community environment and give everyone
> a chance before giving up on them.
>
> My desire as I was typing my email was to be seen, to be recognized by who
> I am, to be understood even. That is something that only a true friend
> could do for me, but as you say we are not good friends even if we did some
> cool things together. We want to collect "all human knowledge", but what do
> we actually know about each other? Is that not valid knowledge or what? In
> my opinion the knowledge about the people in this movement, what they do,
> who they are, what are their dreams, their aspirations, should be collected
> with at least as much interest as we collect all other kind of knowledge.
> Yet nobody does that.
>
> If there is no collective information about who I am and what I have done
> these years, how can I expect other people to value me as much as I want to
> value them? I am as guilty as anyone else for not caring about my fellow
> volunteers in this project, but that doesn't need to continue being that
> way, it can change. I can commit to write a page on Meta about any
> volunteer who wants their work on this project to be seen and recognized,
> and of course anyone can do that for me to. We only need the will.
>
> You say that that WMF bears responsibility in the "failure" of our
> Wikisource community project, and that it is not important now. I do not
> agree about 

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Annual report of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2018-02-20 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Please find below the annual report of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians/Reports/2017

Thanks,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource type of site for sheet music at kickstarter

2017-06-23 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Can Hindusthani musical notation or Swaralipi be included in Extension
score or may be in a new extension? In Bengali Wikisource, we have around
30 books containing these notations but we don't have a way to figure them
out.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58087

Regards,
On Jun 23, 2017 3:01 PM, "Yann Forget"  wrote:

> And the French Wikisource too. ;)
>
> Yann
>
>
> 2017-06-23 10:26 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni :
>
> > The English Wikisource already has the Lilypond extension to host Sheet
> > music:
> > https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:
> > PagesWithProp/score=500
> >
> > AFAIK, though, Lilypond notation is not easy and I'm not sure how
> > widespread is the use of transcribing music notation in Wikisource
> > communities.
> >
> > Aubrey
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Tim Starling 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 23/06/17 12:48, Romaine Wiki wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I came across the following Kickstarter project about sheet music.
> The
> > > > project aims for making public domain sheet musuc available and
> keeping
> > > > them open. The project is a sort of Wikisource, but then for sheet
> > music,
> > > > and I think as Wikimedia movement we should support this somehow.
> > >
> > > Seems like a duplicate of Mutopia, except funded via Kickstarter. You
> > > give them money on Kickstarter and they download the score from IMSLP
> > > and transcribe it for you. This doesn't appear to be a business model
> > > that would benefit from our help.
> > >
> > > -- Tim Starling
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] May 5: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#15)

2017-05-08 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
We need to promote Kiwix - definitely, but should we promote Wikipedia
zero? May be not, unless the issue of net neutrality is clearly addressed.
We need to remember that some countries had to ban different zero services,
as they clearly violated net neutrality and people were against them.

Regards
On May 8, 2017 1:23 PM, "Ilario Valdelli"  wrote:

> In these cases the big advantage is the capacity to be cloned. A
> governement can block an ip or a domain but it would be hard to block
> internet.
>
> The good approach is to invite the web to host kiwix and zim files for
> downloading. That would be easier than cloning Wikipedia content.
>
> However that approach will save readers but not writers.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Il 07 Mag 2017 23:36, "Gabriel Thullen"  ha scritto:
>
> > I agree with James that we need to encourage initiatives like Kiwix
> > Wikipedia Zero. We need to be able to distribute Kiwix in countries that
> > have blocked Wikipedia, because it is no big deal for a government to
> block
> > the Kiwix.org site as well, and phone operators providing Wikipedia Zero
> > will have to obey government injunctions. Chances are that a block on
> > kiwix.org will hardly be noticed by our community. Looks like the good
> old
> > sneakernet with USB flash drives is still a viable option...
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yup. It would be interesting to ponder if wiki app could channel
> through
> > > Tor by default - in the spirit of The Guardian project. Informing users
> > > about Tor benefits has obvious disavantages related to the fact that
> most
> > > people will not be able to grasp it.
> > >
> > > Dariusz Jemielniak
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:26 PM, James Heilman 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The issues occurring in Turkey highlight that we may also need to
> keep
> > in
> > > > mind:
> > > >
> > > > * Access
> > > >
> > > > over the next 15 years. Where access is not only potentially hindered
> > by
> > > > governments but also technical and monetary realities in various
> > country
> > > > and region. We of course have already worked and continue to do work
> in
> > > > this area with initiatives like Wikipedia Zero and Offline Wikipedia
> /
> > > > Kiwix.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Katherine Maher <
> kma...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > *Summary: The report from cycle 1 discussion is online[1]. The
> start
> > of
> > > > > cycle 2 is delayed until next week.*
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your contributions! We have been hard at work
> reading,
> > > > > sorting, and summarizing more than 1,800 community member
> statements,
> > > > from
> > > > > more than 100 community discussions from across five continents.
> Each
> > > of
> > > > > these statements was a response to the question: "What do we want
> to
> > > > build
> > > > > or achieve together over the next 15 years?"
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find the full report on the major themes, and more details
> > > about
> > > > > them, in a summarized report on Meta-Wiki.[1]
> > > > >
> > > > > Some common themes emerged from these conversations:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Reliable, neutral, high-quality content
> > > > > * Community health & support
> > > > > * Internal & external collaboration
> > > > > * Improved and new features
> > > > > * Users, editors, & contributors
> > > > > * Outreach, awareness, & promotion
> > > > > * Innovation and adaptation
> > > > > * Funding, staffing, and other organizational needs
> > > > > * Support for emerging communities
> > > > > * Advancing Wikipedia in education
> > > > > * Movement values
> > > > > * Sustainability & growth
> > > > >
> > > > > Each of these themes is described in more detail within the body of
> > the
> > > > > report,[1] and the full data spreadsheet from this analysis will be
> > > > posted
> > > > > soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > The movement strategy team has been working to group these themes
> > > > together,
> > > > > so that we have a smaller number of concepts to consider in the
> next
> > > > cycle.
> > > > > Because this work is important, we want to make sure the grouping
> and
> > > > > analysis are comprehensive and thoughtful. In order to make sure we
> > can
> > > > get
> > > > > it right, we’re delaying the start of cycle 2 discussions until
> next
> > > > week.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you probably know, the Turkish authorities blocked Wikipedia in
> > > Turkey
> > > > > this week.[2] We’ve been working around the clock to understand the
> > > > > circumstances and respond appropriately, including appealing in
> > Turkish
> > > > > court. We’re grateful to everyone who has reached out to offer us
> > your
> > > > > thoughts and perspective. Government limitations on free knowledge
> > are
> > > > just
> > > > > one of the critical issues that 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-02 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Content translation with Yandex is also a problem in Bengali Wikipedia.
Some users have grown a tendency to create machine translated meaningless
articles with this extension to increase edit count and article count. This
has increased the workloads of admins to find and delete those articles.

Yandex is not ready for many languages and it is better to shut it. We
don't need it in Bengali.

Regards
On May 3, 2017 12:17 AM, "John Erling Blad"  wrote:

> Actually this _is_ about turning ContentTranslation off, that is what
> several users in the community want. They block people using the extension
> and delete the translated articles. Use of ContentTranslation has become a
>  rather contentious case.
>
> Yandex as a general translation engine to be able to read some alien
> language is quite good, but as an engine to produce written text it is not
> very good at all. In fact it often creates quite horrible Norwegian, even
> for closely related languages. One quite common problem is reordering of
> words into meaningless constructs, an other problem is reordering lexical
> gender in weird ways. The English preposition "a" is often translated as
> "en" in a propositional phrase, and then the gender is added to the
> following phrase. That gives a translation of  "Oppland is a county in…"
>  into something like "Oppland er en fylket i…" This should be "Oppland er
> et fylke i…".
>
> (I just checked and it seems like Yandex messes up a lot less now than
> previously, but it is still pretty bad.)
>
> Apertium works because the language is closely related, Yandex does not
> work because it is used between very different languages. People try to use
> Yandex and gets disappointed, and falsely conclude that all language
> translations are equally weird. They are not, but Yandex translations are
> weird.
>
> The numerical threshold does not work. The reason is simple, the number of
> fixes depends on language constructs that fails, and that is simply not a
> constant for small text fragments. Perhaps if we could flag specific
> language constructs that is known to give a high percentage of failures,
> and if the translator must check those sentences. One such language
> construct is disappearances between the preposition and the gender of the
> following term in a prepositional phrase. If they are not similar, then the
> sentence must be checked. It is not always wrong to write "en jenta" in
> Norwegian, but it is likely to be wrong.
>
> A language model could be a statistical model for the language itself, not
> for the translation into that language. We don't want a perfect language
> model, but a sufficient language model to mark weird constructs. A very
> simple solution could simply be to mark tri-grams that does not  already
> exist in the text base for the destination as possible errors. It is not
> necessary to do a live check, but  at least do it before the page can be
> saved.
>
> Note the difference in what Yandex do and what we want to achieve; Yandex
> translates a text between two different languages, without any clear reason
> why. It is not to important if there are weird constructs in the text, as
> long as it is usable in "some" context. We translate a text for the purpose
> of republishing it. The text should be usable and easily readable in that
> language.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > 2017-05-02 18:20 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad :
> >
> > > Brute force solution; turn the ContentTranslation off. Really stupid
> > > solution.
> >
> >
> > ... Then I guess you don't mind that I'm changing the thread name :)
> >
> >
> > > The next solution; turn the Yandex engine off. That would solve a
> > > part of the problem. Kind of lousy solution though.
> > >
> >
> > > What about adding a language model that warns when the language
> > constructs
> > > gets to weird? It is like a "test" for the translation. The CT is used
> > for
> > > creating a translation, but the language model is used for verifying if
> > the
> > > translation is good enough. If it does not validate against the
> language
> > > model it should simply not be published to the main name space. It will
> > > still be possible to create a draft, but then the user is completely
> > aware
> > > that the translation isn't good enough.
> > >
> > > Such a language model should be available as a test for any article, as
> > it
> > > can be used as a quality measure for the article. It is really a
> quantity
> > > measure for the well-spokenness of the article, but that isn't quite so
> > > intuitive.
> > >
> >
> > So, I'll allow myself to guess that you are talking about one particular
> > language, probably Norwegian.
> >
> > Several technical facts:
> >
> > 1. In the past there were several cases in which translators to different
> > languages who reported common translation mistakes to me. I passed them
> on
> > to Yandex developers, with 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New tools: pronuncify and pronuncify.net

2017-01-27 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Asaf,

Thanks for adding the new feature to this awesome tool. I have started
recording and uploading files to Commons using Pronuncify.  I will notify
you if I face some issues.

Best regards,
Bodhisattwa


On 27 January 2017 at 14:54, Shani Evenstein  wrote:

> Very cool.
> Thanks for the work & the update!
>
> Shani.
>
> On 27 Jan 2017 05:28, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > Following Bodhisattwa's request[1], I have added an upload feature to the
> > (command-line) Linux version of this tool, so it can now batch-upload the
> > recorded pronunciation files to Commons on your behalf.
> >
> > (Ideally, it should have used OAuth, but that would take longer to
> > implement. :))
> >
> > If you want to use the new functionality, just get the latest
> pronuncify.rb
> > script from GitHub[2], *install the new dependencies* (see the README.md
> > file on GitHub for instructions), and enjoy! :)
> >
> > (I'd love to know if any of you are using the tool.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >A.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/abartov/pronuncify/issues/1
> > [2] https://github.com/abartov/pronuncify
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:23 PM Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello, everyone.
> > >
> > > (this is an announcement in my capacity as a volunteer.)
> > >
> > > Inspired by a lightning talk at the recent CEE Meeting[1] by our
> > colleague
> > > Lars Aronsson, I made a little command-line tool to automate batch
> > > recording of pronunciations of words by native speakers, for uploading
> to
> > > Commons and integration into Wiktionary etc.  It is called
> *pronuncify*,
> > > is written in Ruby and uses the sox(1) tool, and should work on any
> > modern
> > > Linux (and possibly OS X) machine.  It is available here[2], with
> > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I was then asked about a Windows version, and agreed to attempt one.
> > This
> > > version is called *pronuncify.net *, and is a
> > .NET
> > > gooey GUI version of the same tool, with slightly different functions.
> > It
> > > is available here[3], with instructions.
> > >
> > > Both tools require word-list files in plaintext, with one word (or
> > phrase)
> > > per line.  Both tools name the files according to the standard
> > established
> > > in [[commons:Category:Pronunciation]], and convert them to Ogg Vorbis
> > for
> > > you, so they are ready to upload.
> > >
> > > In the future, I may add OAuth-based direct uploading to Commons.  If
> you
> > > run into difficulties, please file issues on GitHub, for the
> appropriate
> > > tool.  Feedback is welcome.
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_
> > 2015/Programme/Lightning/Pronunciation_recordings_for_Wiktionary
> > > [2] https://github.com/abartov/pronuncify
> > > [3] https://github.com/abartov/Pronuncify.net
> > > --
> > > Asaf Bartov
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Speaks Your Language

2017-01-13 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Kiril,

Wikitongues videos are uploaded primarily in their Youtube channel and only
few of them are under CC-BY-SA license. Although they depend on
crowdsourcing, still it's not a wiki, so the number of uploads are not so
frequent.
On Jan 14, 2017 1:19 AM, "Kiril Simeonovski" <kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Bodhisattwa,
>
> It is great to know that Wikitounges are working on documenting all
> languages in the world under free licence. Their repository may be another
> major source for uploads on Wikimedia Commons that will be later used in
> Wikipedia articles. Thus, we will achieve the goal of our initiative and
> improve the article quality, while they will also benefit from the
> increased use of their files.
>
> Best,
> Kiril
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 20:30 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > 1) Similar initiative by Wikitongues -  http://wikitongues.org/
> > 2) Some files were uploaded under CC-BY-SA license -
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikitongues
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 January 2017 at 22:55, Kiril Simeonovski <
> > kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am pleased to announce the launch of the Wiki Speaks Your Language
> [1]
> > > initiative with the goal of enriching the Wikimedia projects with
> freely
> > > licensed audio and video files documenting spoken examples of every
> > > language, language variety and dialect in the world.
> > >
> > > The idea originates from the curiosity of many readers viewing language
> > > articles not only to read about the language but also to hear how does
> it
> > > sound. In most of the cases, our language articles lack such files and
> > > readers usually end up searching videos on YouTube, notwithstanding
> that
> > we
> > > have the capacity as a movement and the resources to meet their wish.
> > >
> > > The initiative lists three possible ways of acquiring freely licensed
> > audio
> > > and video files:
> > >
> > > 1) by adapting existing files on Wikimedia Commons (mostly from the
> > Spoken
> > > Wikipedia projects [2]);
> > > 2) by liberating existing files from the repositories of GLAM and
> > > educational institutions; and
> > > 3) by engaging Wikimedia communities, GLAM and educational institutions
> > in
> > > the recording of new files.
> > >
> > > In the first phase, the plan is to work with the available resources we
> > > have and adapt the existing videos from the Spoken Wikipedia projects
> > > (there
> > > are some useful tips [3] on what the existing files should be adapted
> > to).
> > >
> > > I will be very thankful if members of this list help in spreading the
> > word
> > > about the initiative through other channels to the communities
> and`other
> > > parties in our movement.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Kiril
> > >
> > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Speaks_Your_Language
> > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisound
> > > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Speaks_Your_
> > > Language/Tips#Qualities_of_files
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Speaks Your Language

2017-01-13 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

1) Similar initiative by Wikitongues -  http://wikitongues.org/
2) Some files were uploaded under CC-BY-SA license -
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikitongues



On 13 January 2017 at 22:55, Kiril Simeonovski 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am pleased to announce the launch of the Wiki Speaks Your Language [1]
> initiative with the goal of enriching the Wikimedia projects with freely
> licensed audio and video files documenting spoken examples of every
> language, language variety and dialect in the world.
>
> The idea originates from the curiosity of many readers viewing language
> articles not only to read about the language but also to hear how does it
> sound. In most of the cases, our language articles lack such files and
> readers usually end up searching videos on YouTube, notwithstanding that we
> have the capacity as a movement and the resources to meet their wish.
>
> The initiative lists three possible ways of acquiring freely licensed audio
> and video files:
>
> 1) by adapting existing files on Wikimedia Commons (mostly from the Spoken
> Wikipedia projects [2]);
> 2) by liberating existing files from the repositories of GLAM and
> educational institutions; and
> 3) by engaging Wikimedia communities, GLAM and educational institutions in
> the recording of new files.
>
> In the first phase, the plan is to work with the available resources we
> have and adapt the existing videos from the Spoken Wikipedia projects
> (there
> are some useful tips [3] on what the existing files should be adapted to).
>
> I will be very thankful if members of this list help in spreading the word
> about the initiative through other channels to the communities and`other
> parties in our movement.
>
> Best regards,
> Kiril
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Speaks_Your_Language
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisound
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Speaks_Your_
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 72 hours with Rodin editathon in Mexico City

2016-06-12 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Congrats Wikimedia Mexico for the new Guinness World Record. You guys are
awesome.

Bodhisattwa
Bengali comminity
Very exciting and inspiring! Thanks for sharing Ivan!

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Hasive N. Chowdhury <
nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd> wrote:

> Great to know Ivan. All the best for Wikimedia Mexico.
>
>
> Hasive
> WMBD
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Ivan Martínez  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > This June, Wikimedia Mexico will run the editathon* 72 hours with Rodin*
> > a huge journey from June 9 to 12 at Museo Soumaya[1]. This time we're
> > trying to break our previous record (60 continuous hours), this time
> we're
> > trying to achieve an even greater marathon: more than 70 continuous
hours
> > editing Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata and Wikisource. We are
> > celebrating the arrival to the museum of one of Auguste Rodin's
> > masterpieces: ''The Gates of Hell'', so, we will have a celebration
about
> > art and free knowledge which will include talks, theater pieces, guided
> > tours, workshops and fun time activities as karaoke nights. You saw it
at
> > Wikimania, Wikimedia Mexico volunteers love fun also :) The museum will
> be
> > open also to public during that 72 hours.
> >
> > The editathon will focus on Auguste Rodin works and the Museo Soumaya
> > collections, but beyond that we have higher goals like completing the
> full
> > list of museums in Mexico and at least 50 biographies on importan women
> in
> > art and feminism as part of our permanent and transversal Gender Gap
> > Reduction Strategy. In this list (in Spanish)[2] you can find more about
> > the event and the list of articles. As in other editathons at Museo
> > Soumaya[3], we are inviting all Wikimedia chapters and affiliates to
join
> > this effort and support us translating articles to more languages. As
you
> > can see in the list, this time we are doing a detailed logistic which
> > involves pairing Wikimedia Mexico volunteers with museum staff
> (researchers
> > and/or curators), aiming to increase experience of the museum’s staff on
> > Wikipedia.
> >
> > *72 hours with Rodin* will pursuit to set a new record and it’s an event
> > prepared since January, escalating in intensity since two months ago
with
> > the coordination by Andrés Cruz y Corro (User:Andycyca), head of
> volunteers
> > in Wikimania 2015. As a matter of fact, 60% of the Wikimania 2015 Yellow
> > Army will be present on the event.
> >
> > We will love to have support from Wikimedia community in the translation
> > of the articles produced in the editathon to more languages of the
globe.
> > Please don’t hesitate if you want to join the editathon!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Iván Martínez
> > President
> > Wikimedia Mexico
> >
> > [1]
> >
>
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Museo_Soumaya/Editat%C3%B3n_72_Horas_con_Rodin
> > [2]
> >
>
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Museo_Soumaya/Editat%C3%B3n_72_Horas_con_Rodin/Art%C3%ADculos_a_editar
> > [3]
> >
>
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/11/05/50-hours-of-art-the-museo-soumaya-editathon/
> >
> >
> > // Mis comunicaciones respecto a Wikipedia/Wikimedia pueden tener una
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[Wikimedia-l] Guerrilla skepticism on Wikipedia

2016-05-03 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Looks like a group of ?trolls are working in a organized way and disrupting
the basic policies of Wikipedia. They call themselves Guerrilla skepticism
on Wikipedia.


http://guerrillaskepticismonwikipedia.blogspot.in/

http://www.naturalnews.com/053719_David_Gorski_Wikipedia_VAXXED_documentary.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/053869_science_skeptics_Wikipedia_guerrilla_propaganda.html

https://www.facebook.com/GSoWproject/?fref=nf

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-04-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Angola is not alone. Bangladesh also started the practice. :-P Now there is
a good number of Facebook groups and pages to do this kind of piracy
related works through Commons.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NahidSultan/Bangladesh_Facebook_Case

They are even creating manuals in different Facebook groups on how to
download movies even if get blocked by admins.
*
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1683585148563391/permalink/1695000264088546/
*
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1173773462655208=1036981463001076

Phabricator link to deal with this -
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129845

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 28 March 2016 at 03:30, David Emrany  wrote:

> Dear Teles
>
> I am exercising my right of reply, anticipating that.a list mod may
> censor it or delay it till it is infructuous
>
> You are imposing "modern" 1st world standards on these poor people.
> Many I remind you to remember how many 1st world Commons bureaucrats
> and admins were doing something similar / identical [1] only a few
> years ago at Commons.Do we collectively recall how many years.it took
> to ban them and delete their files ?
>
> So give these Angolans time and respectfully equitably treat them as
> unequals when you deal with them.
>
> Dave
>
> [1] http://www.britannica.com/topic/Wikipedia
> " .. in 2010 it was revealed that there was a cache of pornographic
> images, including illegal depictions of sexual acts involving
> children, on Wikimedia Commons, a site maintained by the Wikimedia
> Foundation that served as a repository of media files for use in all
> Wikimedia products."
>
> On 3/26/16, Lucas Teles  wrote:
> > Yeah, I am definitely watching users that violate any Wikimedia project
> and
> > I talk about it with other users publicly. What should be done different?
> > Should we let this users go and ignore they are violating important
> rules?
> > I will be paying atention to suggestions. And trying to do something
> > different is the reason I created this thread. I am pretty sure that the
> > regular measures won't be enough. I would never blame regular editors
> > though. That would be too much easy and counterproductive.
> >
> > Yeah, Wikipedia Zero is a good thing. That goes without saying. And I am
> > not saying that because I expect something in return from the users of
> > Wikipedia Zero. I actually don't think many of them will improve wiki as
> > they use cellphones to edit and there is not yet an app for easily
> editing.
> > Other than reading, doing anything else on cellphone is too much painful.
> > The best thing of WP Zero is that it *provides* information for too many
> > people in need.
> >
> > Teles
> >
> > Em quinta-feira, 24 de março de 2016, Gerard Meijssen <
> > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> >> Hoi,
> >> So what are you saying? It is ok for people to do dastardly things and
> >> abuse Commons and it is even worse when people at Commons use the
> >> environment they know, the Internet, to do some research and expose what
> >> they find?
> >>
> >> Really? And I must be impressed when Mr Kolbe asks attention for it??
> >> Because what! It a Dutch proverb the best sailors are ashore. The same
> can
> >> be said by Mr Kolbe who is proficient in telling other people what to do
> >> and why he objects. That is his prerogative as it is mine to be
> >> underwhelmed.
> >>
> >> Be serious. When issues arise, we may work towards an understanding and
> a
> >> solution and sometimes hands get dirty. I will always support people who
> >> actually make a meaningful difference over people who cannot be faulted.
> >> Mistakes are made and when that is a problem go elsewhere. When there
> is a
> >> meaningful discussion anything is on the cards. So far this is not one.
> >> Thanks,
> >>GerarddM
> >>
> >> On 24 March 2016 at 09:04, David Emrany  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Gerard
> >> >
> >> > Correspondingly, what I find unconscionable for us is that a small
> >> > group of Commons editors /admins congregated on the talk page of
> >> > 'Teles' and discussed how to secretly spy on these new Zeropaid
> >> > enabled editors and monitor their Facebook-basic pages [1], [2].
> >> >
> >> > IMO had this been more widely discussed at Commons seeking solutions,
> >> > we would not be seeing unfortunate news articles like the one Andreas
> >> > Kolbe has linked to
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> >
> >>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATeles=revision=168565809=168565337=en
> >> >
> >> > [2]
> >> >
> >>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Teles/Angola_Facebook_Case=168514640
> >> >
> >> > On 3/20/16, Gerard Meijssen  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Hoi,
> >> > > Realistically. Wikipedia is very much an enabler.
> >> > >
> >> > > Your ease to consider "simply" disabling mobile edits or 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

2016-03-11 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Wow! Its really awesome. It was much needed.

Thanks, team.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

2016-03-10 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Congrats Katherine,

As a community member from the other side of the world, you have my
complete trust and support. A very positive move from the Board, no doubt
about it.

Best wishes,
Bodhisattwa
On Mar 11, 2016 10:05 AM, "Risker"  wrote:

> Thank  you, Patricio and the rest of the board, for this first step in
> rebuilding.
>
> I have had the pleasure of working with Katherine in my capacity as a
> "regular" volunteer and as a member of the FDC, and have found her to be
> highly professional and very focused on the mission of the WMF.  She has
> demonstrated her ability to attract and lead an excellent team in her role
> as Chief Communications Officer, and has the support of staff and her
> (former) C-level organizational leaders as the WMF takes its next steps to
> recovery.  In my opinion, this is what is needed at this time.
>
> Katherine, thank you for agreeing to take on this responsibility.  I look
> forward to working with you and the rest of the team in the months to come.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 10 March 2016 at 22:52, Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > Katherine,
> >
> > Welcome, and best of luck in your new role. I'm very pleased indeed to
> hear
> > that it will be you to fill it.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you, Patricio.
> > >
> > > I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their
> confidence
> > in
> > > the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
> > > continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your
> passion
> > > and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
> > > behold.
> > >
> > > As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a
> > process
> > > of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE))
> recently
> > > reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need to
> > > work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
> > > critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense
> from
> > > many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the
> > lessons
> > > we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing our
> > > global movement.
> > >
> > > At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our values,
> > and
> > > practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim
> > period, I
> > > want to get things working well and improve transparency and
> > communication,
> > > both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
> > > supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage
> > with
> > > their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work
> has
> > > an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important
> deadlines
> > > for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making
> > progress
> > > on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
> > >
> > > We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017
> Annual
> > > Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on
> > track
> > > to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
> > > underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3]
> Over
> > > the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology
> > Officer
> > > (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to reinvest
> in
> > > our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize
> them.
> > >
> > > To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to
> hear
> > > from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period.
> > This
> > > includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization
> and
> > > movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is
> > prepared
> > > to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely
> > with
> > > them to share important information and create opportunities to give
> > > feedback throughout the process.
> > >
> > > Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
> > > Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia. It
> > was
> > > a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement
> > brings
> > > people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.
> > >
> > > Yours sincerely,
> > > Katherine
> > >
> > > [1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Combined_strategy_and_annual_plan_timeline
> > > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Draft_WMF_Strategy
> > > [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> > > patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Powerful on-wiki art visualization

2016-02-22 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

This is so cool. Great effort.

Thanks to the team,
Bodhisattwa
On Feb 23, 2016 10:40 AM, "Sam Klein"  wrote:

So nice - I just spent 10 minutes playing with this with friends over
dinner.
It's tough to construct a new one without a debugger, though.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Yuri Astrakhan 
wrote:


>
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_graph
>
> Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]]
> who designed the original graph!
>

Yes!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 Ombudsman Committee

2016-02-03 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Congratulation to all the new committee members.

On 2 February 2016 at 13:07, Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive) <
nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd> wrote:

> Congratulations to all new members.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:13 AM, James Alexander 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Patrick for all your work on this and Congratulations to everyone
> > coming on board! Thank you Thogo, PhilKnight, Avraham and Alhen for your
> > work over the past years. I know I'll see you all around still :).
> >
> > James Alexander
> > Manager
> > Trust & Safety
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Patrick for the announcement. Congratulations to the new members
> > as
> > > well as the returning members!
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tanweer
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Patrick Earley  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello, everyone.
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to announce the new and returning members of the 2016
> > Ombudsman
> > > > Commission (OC), the small group of volunteers who investigate
> > complaints
> > > > about violations of the privacy policy, and in particular concerning
> > the
> > > > use of CheckUser and Oversight[1] tools, on any Wikimedia project for
> > the
> > > > Board of Trustees.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Amending_the_Scope_of_the_Ombudsman_Commission
> > > >
> > > > I apologize for the length of the announcement. :)
> > > >
> > > > The application period for new commissioners for 2016 recently
> closed.
> > > The
> > > > Wikimedia Foundation is extremely grateful to the many experienced
> and
> > > > insightful volunteers who offered to assist with this work.
> > > >
> > > > As it has for the past few years, this year’s OC will consist of
> seven
> > > > members, with a two-member advisory team who will guide the new
> > > commission.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am pleased to announce the composition of the 2016 OC. First, the
> new
> > > > members are:
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > User:Alan, who has been a registered Wikimedian for more than three
> > > years,
> > > > but an anonymous editor since 2006, working primarily across Spanish
> > > > language projects. He is a global sysop and global rollbacker, an
> > > > administrator on Commons, as well as having been an OTRS volunteer
> for
> > ~3
> > > > years. In the past he has served as an administrator and bureaucrat
> on
> > > > Spanish Wikivoyage.
> > > >  -
> > > >
> > > > User:NahidSultan, who has been volunteering on Wikimedia projects
> since
> > > > 2012. He is mostly active on Bengali Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons and
> > > Meta,
> > > > where he holds administrator rights. Besides these roles, he is also
> > part
> > > > of OTRS, a small wiki monitoring team member and a global
> > administrator.
> > > > Other than his online contributions to the movement, he is also
> active
> > > > doing Wikimedia work offline, working actively for the Wikimedia
> > > Bangladesh
> > > > chapter, where he currently serves as a Board member.
> > > >  -
> > > >
> > > > User:Pajz, who has been an active contributor to the Wikimedia
> projects
> > > for
> > > > almost a decade. Formerly a bureaucrat on the German-language
> > Wiktionary,
> > > > he has since mainly focused on contributing to Wikipedia (mostly on
> > > topics
> > > > from economic theory and copyright law) and helping out on the
> > Volunteer
> > > > response team ("OTRS team"). He became a Wikipedia administrator and
> a
> > > > Volunteer response team member in 2007, and has served as one of the
> > OTRS
> > > > administrators.
> > > >
> > > >  -
> > > >
> > > > User:Taketa, who has been a Wikimedian since 2008. He mostly works on
> > the
> > > > Dutch Wikipedia, writing content and organising projects. He was a
> > member
> > > > of the Dutch Wikipedia Arbitration Committee in 2009/10 and 2012/13.
> > > > Currently, he helps as Wikimedia steward, nlwiki bureaucrat,
> listadmin
> > > for
> > > > the nlwiki admins and bureaucrats, OTRS volunteer and Wikidata admin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Returning members:
> > > >
> > > > User:Barras, who is primarily active on the Simple English Wikipedia
> > and
> > > > Meta. He’s a steward, an Oversighter on Simple English and Meta, and
> > > also a
> > > > Checkuser on Simple and Meta. Barras joined the OC in 2015.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > User:Polimerek, who primarily edits Polish Wikipedia (where he is an
> > > admin
> > > > and former arbitrator), Polish Wikibooks and Wikimedia Commons. He
> also
> > > > serves the Wikimedia movement as the president of Wikimedia Poland
> and
> > on
> > > > the Grant Advisory Committee. He is a former Checkuser. Polimerek
> > joined
> > > > the OC in 2014.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > User:Rubin16, who primarily edits the Russian Wikipedia, where he is
> a
> > > > bureaucrat and 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for New Project - Wikilore

2016-01-18 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

This proposal can fit well into Wikisource and Wikibooks. I dont think,
another new domain is needed for this purpose.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 17 January 2016 at 08:17, Satdeep Gill <satdeep_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have proposed a new Wikimedia project on Meta. I hope you guys can take
> a look and give your views.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilore
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The documentary film of Wikimedia Argentina now available. Happy birthday Wikipedia!

2016-01-16 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Great work, Anna.

Best wishes,
Bodhisattwa
from Bengali Wikipedia community
On 16 Jan 2016 18:34, "Yury Bulka"  wrote:

> Fantastic work, Anna!
>
> Do you have the subtitles (*.srt) file so we can start translating the
> subtitles? I'd like to translate in into Ukrainian and share here)
>
> Best,
> Yury Bulka
> from Wikimedia Ukraine
>
> Anna Torres  writes:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Wikimedia Argentina has been working the last 6 months on a documentary
> > film based on the community, the editors and their work.
> >
> > Some weeks ago I sent you the trailer and now, after the party for the
> 15th
> > anniversary has passed and the film has already been launched in
> Argentina,
> > we are pleased to be sharing with you the result.
> >
> > Please, find it on the following links (all with subtitles in english)
> >
> > Wikimedia Commons->
> > In spanish:  here
> > 
> > In english -> here
> > 
> >
> > Youtube->here <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXokeuQFJnM=youtu.be>
> >
> > Vimeo:here 
> >
> > Hope you like it
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] For Wikipedia's 15th Birthday, what does Wikipedia mean to the world?

2016-01-16 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

The video was awesome. :-)

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On 16 Jan 2016 13:47, "Lodewijk"  wrote:

> Oh, this video is amazing! It could make a great introduction as background
> information for an educational talk, and so much more :)
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Claudia Garad <
> claudia.ga...@wikimedia.at>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the resources Zack!
> >
> > Our project partner the simpleshow foundation made a freely licensed
> > educational video about Wikipedia as a birthday present - feel free to
> use
> > and share everyone:
> >
> > Commons:
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:How_Wikipedia_contributes_to_free_knowledge.webm#
> >
> > youtube:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cndZ9jISks
> >
> > Regards from Vienna!
> > Claudia
> >
> > --
> > Claudia Garád
> > Geschäftsführerin
> >
> > Wikimedia Österreich - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
> > www.wikimedia.at
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 15.01.2016 01:41, schrieb Zachary McCune:
> >
> >> Hello everyone!
> >>
> >>
> >> 15 January is Wikipedia's 15th birthday. That's right, it's Wikipedia
> Day!
> >> This is the day we celebrate the beginning of the Wikimedia movement and
> >> all of the free knowledge projects we share with the world.
> >>
> >> To celebrate, we are asking Wikipedia visitors (both anonymous readers
> and
> >> logged-in users)  to tell us what Wikipedia means to them. It's all
> about
> >> celebrating the impact of our movement.
> >>
> >> For the next 6 days, we will use some Central Notice banners to notify
> >> users of our birthday milestone and ask for their thoughts. The banners
> >> will be visible on Meta, Commons, and all language Wikipedias. The
> >> messages
> >> have been translated by the community into more than 98 languages (and
> >> counting). The banners will link to the Wikipedia15 microsite [1], where
> >> visitors can read the stories of 15 Wikimedians, review milestones from
> 15
> >> years of Wikipedia, and contribute thoughts on what Wikipedia means to
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Per MediaWiki, the timing will follow UTC. And of course, if you dismiss
> >> the notice, it will permanently opt you opt of seeing Wikipedia15
> banners
> >> for the rest of the week.
> >>
> >> Questions? Send them my way.
> >>
> >> Want to get involved? Why not go to a Wikimedia party or event[2], edit
> >> something new, share a Wikipedia15 illustration[3], or share a Wikipedia
> >> birthday wish with #Wikipedia15 on your preferred social media!
> >>
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> - Zack
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] https://15.wikipedia.org
> >> [2] There are 149 events planned! Find one near you:
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events
> >> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia15_Mark
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Basics

2016-01-02 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

I just got the link of the official statement of WMF regarding internet.org.

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero/Development#Regarding_Internet.org

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On 2 Jan 2016 05:01, "Kim Bruning"  wrote:

> Hi Milos,
> Happy new year to you!
>
> I thought your mail to the list was very thoughtful.
> I've replied inline below.
>
> On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 06:50:16AM +0100, Milos Rancic wrote:
> > I don't think the pure form of net-neutrality is sustainable. Many
> > businesses already have deals with other businesses to provide
> > something for free or "for free" or for reduced price via their
> > infrastructure.
>
> Hmm, this example has little to do with net neutrality as I understand
> it though.
>
> Net neutrality means that you pay your ISP to allow you to send and
> receive packets to/from anyone without discrimination to source or
> destination. (In other words you're paying for actual internet access
> without let or hindrance).
>
> Previously this is how the market worked.
>
> Without going into details here, many sources tell us that the
> market is now threatening to shift towards a winner-takes-all walled
> garden model. (if not already there)
>
> It's going to be a challenge to keep open source and open content
> operating and relevant in such an increasingly hostile environment this
> coming decade.
>
> > Neither I think the initiative will really create a permanent
> > underclass. People in underdeveloped regions will eventually become
> > richer and they won't need this kind of service.
>
> We can ask them whether they want to continue having such a service at
> any time. Or we can set some participation threshold above which we
> would accept a petition to stop. (It is always wise to have
> pre-prepared go/no-go safety checks at particular points in time)
>
> > * Finally, we belong to the movement which promotes net neutrality as
> > one of the core values. No matter how realistic it is, we should
> > support it. Wikipedia Zero is not net-neutral, but Wikimedia projects
> > are of such significance that it could be tolerated. Going further
> > into abandoning that principle would create definite divide between us
> > and the rest of our global super-movement.
>
> *Nod* We have to beware of fouling our own nest. Even though Wikipedia
> zero appears to help our own cause now, we need to be careful we don't
> hurt the people we depend on in turn.
>
> People such as the open source community and internet standards
> organisations might prove quite sensitive to changing Internet rules.
> We should put our ears to the ground and listen carefully to what
> representatives of these groups may be saying to us.
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Basics

2015-12-31 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

Indian netizens, specially the open source activists, are severely
criticizing Internet.org and Free basics right from the beginning on the
violation of net neutrality issue. In response to that, TRAI has asked
Reliance Communication to hold Facebook Free Basics service.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Put-FBs-Free-Basics-service-on-hold-TRAI-tells-Reliance-Communications/articleshow/50290490.cms

http://qz.com/580884/india-has-hit-the-brakes-on-facebooks-free-internet-service/

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 1 January 2016 at 11:20, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Marcin Cieslak <sa...@saper.info> wrote:
> > You might want to check out some discussions surrounding the Wikimedia
> Zero initiative.
>
> From my perspective, there is significant difference between Wikipedia
> Zero (along with similar, free of charge services) and Free Basics.
> The first group positively discriminates some websites, the second
> group negatively discriminates a part of population.
>
> I don't think the pure form of net-neutrality is sustainable. Many
> businesses already have deals with other businesses to provide
> something for free or "for free" or for reduced price via their
> infrastructure. The classic examples are Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola:
> they make a deal with a fast food restaurant to give you their
> products for reduced price. And when we come to bits and bytes,
> "reduced price" could be zero.
>
> On top of that, we have a number of Internet services of strategic
> importance. Wikimedia projects are one of such services. Yes, a number
> of Google services and Facebook are such services, as well, along with
> a number of services covering similar needs (Yandex and VKontakte in
> Russia, for example). It's good to have such services for free (before
> or after you spend your data limit).
>
> However, when it comes to limiting access to particular services, it
> creates an underclass, capable to participate just in one segment of
> Internet. That's quite serious.
>
> I don't think think Zuckerberg's initiative has such idea behind. It's
> Coca Cola-like marketing campaign. When you become that big, your
> marketing approach becomes big, as well. Familiarizing people with
> their products is clever strategy. We know that from three decades of
> Microsoft's tolerance of piracy in countries without enough of people
> capable to buy their software.
>
> Neither I think the initiative will really create a permanent
> underclass. People in underdeveloped regions will eventually become
> richer and they won't need this kind of service.
>
> Wikimedia projects will be included inside of such plans even without
> WMF's approval. And even if we theoretically could block access, we
> shouldn't do that, of course.
>
> There is one more important issue here: It's Facebook's initiative,
> but it's also a cartel-like approach to the market. Facebook is not
> the only company behind the initiative and the initiative could become
> quite powerful and could grow behind giving free access to limited
> internet just to the poorest inhabitants of the Earth. It could slip
> into a worldwide option, served as default in many settings.
>
> So, there are at least three important reasons why Wikimedia
> organizations shouldn't participate in such initiative:
>
> * Most importantly, while I don't think Free Basics will create a
> permanent underclass, nobody could guarantee such thing. My position
> is based on external factors, not on the design created by the
> companies participating in Free Basics. They could work hard on
> preserving a kind of status quo by gradually increasing access to
> various services, while keeping zero price. In a nightmarish scenario,
> we could get two Internets: one censored and one not censored. And
> Wikimedia shouldn't support such possible future.
>
> * It's Facebook's business, not ours. I don't think Wikimedia
> organizations should be outside of any business deal with for-profit
> companies, but I don't think our voice in such initiative could be
> relevant.
>
> * Finally, we belong to the movement which promotes net neutrality as
> one of the core values. No matter how realistic it is, we should
> support it. Wikipedia Zero is not net-neutral, but Wikimedia projects
> are of such significance that it could be tolerated. Going further
> into abandoning that principle would create definite divide between us
> and the rest of our global super-movement.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-28 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hey Doc,

The community wants to know about what happened. I think, you need to talk
about this.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On 29 Dec 2015 07:25, "Nathan"  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:39 PM, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > As Patricio stated the "Board has a responsibility to ... ensure that the
> > Board functions with *mutual confidence*"
> >
> > My fellow trustees need no reason beyond lack of trust in me to justify
> my
> > removal. No reason beyond that is needed per our board by laws.
> >
> > There was not any COI or legal impropriety on my part. I have done what I
> > believe is in the best interest of our movement. I hope Patricio and I
> can
> > work together to provide greater explanation in the coming days.
> >
> > --
> > James Heilman
>
>
> Why be cute about it, then? Just say what happened and leave the games to
> others.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-28 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi,

This official statement is very much weak and does not state any reason of
such removal. A rather serious and transparent explanation to the community
is needed.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On 29 Dec 2015 05:22, "Risker"  wrote:

> On 28 December 2015 at 18:29, Patricio Lorente  >
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted to remove one of
> the
> > Trustees, Dr. James Heilman, from the Board. His term ended effective
> > immediately.
> >
> > This was not a decision the Board took lightly. The Board has a
> > responsibility to the Wikimedia movement and the Wikimedia Foundation to
> > ensure that the Board functions with mutual confidence to ensure
> effective
> > governance. Following serious consideration, the Board felt this removal
> > decision was a necessary step at this time. The resolution will be
> > published shortly.
> >
> > This decision creates an open seat for a community-selected Trustee. The
> > Board is committed to filling this open community seat as quickly as
> > possible. We will reach out to the 2015 election committee
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/Committee
> > >
> > to discuss our options, and will keep you informed as we determine next
> > steps.
> >
> > Patricio Lorente
> >
> > Chair, Board of Trustees
> >
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> >
>
> While you are at it, Patricio, please also publish the names of the two new
> Board-appointed trustees.
>
> Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Old maps of Jerusalem released

2015-12-19 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Wow!!!
Great effort.

Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

2015-12-16 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Danny,

First of all, thanks for your comments on Wikisource community wishlist
survey. Though we are a small global community, we did our best to get our
basic problems noticed.

To my opinion, the current system of Community wishlist survey is not good
enough to solve the problems of Wikimedia sister projects like Wikisource.
As very few volunteers work on Wikisource globally, it is very difficult to
compete with Wikipedia or Commons proposals because obviously Wikisource
proposals will not get as much votes as they do.

The concept of top 10 wishes is great! But in addition, if there is a
provision to include at least top 2 wishes of each of the sister projects,
then personally I can say that it can be an effective measure to uplift
these projects. Andrea already said in the previous mail that, Wikisource
software support is totally provided by volunteers alone right from the
beginning and not WMF and that's a real issue for us.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 17 Dec 2015 03:32, "Richard Ames"  wrote:
>
> This thread (subject) looks like it could bring lots of different
thoughts,
> ideas, suggestions, etc.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paris

2015-11-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Solidarity from India for this tragic incident. Good to know that
Wikipedians in and from Paris are all safe.

Bodhisattwa
On 14 November 2015 at 12:28, Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska
 wrote:

> User Paterm, Polish wikipedian living in Paris is also well.

As is John Cummings, a UK citizen currently working as Wikimedian in
Residence at UNESCO in Paris.

--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

2015-11-05 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
At last it is gone. Great news. Looking forward.

Bodhisattwa
On 6 Nov 2015 00:40, "Pierre-Selim"  wrote:

> It's a great news to hear that superprotect is gone and the willingness of
> a better collaboration.
> It's a long-awaited move.
>
> 2015-11-05 20:03 GMT+01:00 Chris Keating :
>
> > Yay! Great news about Superprotect's scrapping, also really good to hear
> > the direction of travel on the development process.
> >
> > Chris
> > On 5 Nov 2015 17:36, "Quim Gil"  wrote:
> >
> > > Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve
> a
> > > product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> > > dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> > > Wikimedia servers.
> > >
> > > Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However,
> > we
> > > still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays
> > at
> > > the product deployment phase. We need to become better software
> partners,
> > > work together towards better products, and ship better features faster.
> > The
> > > collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual
> trust
> > > and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> > > build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
> > >
> > > There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2]
> that
> > > will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> > > stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> > > particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier
> on
> > > will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> > > potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
> > >
> > > We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors.
> > Check
> > > the Q for details.[4]
> > >
> > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> > > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> > > [4]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

2015-11-01 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
I had a chance to meet him during Wikimania 2015. Sorry to hear the news.
Truly a huge loss for Western Punjabi Wikipedia.

Bodhisattwa
On 1 Nov 2015 10:23, "Anna Stillwell"  wrote:

> Thank you for letting us know, Asaf. Rest in peace, Khalid.
> /a
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to the
> > Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month, after long
> > illness.
> >
> > Khalid was an educator from Pakistan who was passionate about creating
> and
> > sharing free knowledge.  He had great plans for promoting the mission in
> > Pakistan.  He has made more than 67 thousand edits across the projects.
> He
> > attended Wikimania 2012 and 2014, where some of us met him.
> >
> > If you wish to leave condolences or share memories of Khalid, I suggest
> his
> > talk page on Meta:
> >
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Khalid_Mahmood#Condolences_and_remembrances
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> >
> >Asaf
> >
> >
> > [1] Western Punjabi [used in Pakistan] and Eastern Punjabi [used in
> India]
> > are practically the same language, but Western is written in the
> > Perso-Arabic Shahmukhi script, whereas Eastern is written in the Gurmukhi
> > script.)
> > --
> > Asaf Bartov
> > Wikimedia Foundation 
> >
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> > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy 3rd Birthday, Wikidata!

2015-10-31 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Happy birthday, Wikidata. Greetings from Bengali Wikipedia.

Bodhisattwa
On 31 Oct 2015 23:03, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:

> Congrats guys. It's 3 years now. :)
> --
> User:Titodutta (En WP)
>
> On 31 October 2015 at 22:53, Lila Tretikov  wrote:
>
> > I hope you had a great party! !!!
> >
> > sent from mobile. please excuse typos.
> > On Oct 29, 2015 12:44 PM, "Redon Skikuli"  wrote:
> >
> > > Happy Birthday Wikidata, from the growing Albanian community!
> > >
> > > *---*
> > >
> > > *Redon Skikuli*
> > > *e-mail: **re...@skikuli.com *
> > > *web: **www.skikuli.com *
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
> > > lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey everyone :)
> > > >
> > > > Today we are celebrating Wikidata's 3rd birthday. I've been with the
> > > > project since we started development 3.5 years ago and I can't
> believe
> > > > what a ride it has been and how far we've come.
> > > >
> > > > As for every birthday celebrations are in order. We've created a page
> > > > at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Third_Birthday. There you
> > > > can find editorials (by Harmonia Amanda, Ash Crow and me) about the
> > > > past year and what is coming. Please take a moment to read it. There
> > > > you will also find a section for congratulations and wishes, presents
> > > > and more.
> > > >
> > > > Here's to many more years of Wikidata. Stay as awesome as you are!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Lydia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PS: The development team has presents as well. I'll send an email
> > > > about them in a few hours. Ohhh the suspense :D
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
> > > > Product Manager for Wikidata
> > > >
> > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> > > > Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
> > > > 10963 Berlin
> > > > www.wikimedia.de
> > > >
> > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.
> V.
> > > >
> > > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
> > > > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
> > > > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
> > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Princess of Asturias prize streaming now

2015-10-23 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Congratulations to all Wikipedians from all countries of this planet, who
have volunteered to build one of the largest international collaboration of
human civilisation.

Cheers

Bodhisattwa
On 23 Oct 2015 22:17, "Jane Darnell"  wrote:

> Yes, definitely! It's hard to imagine that we have achieved all of the
> millions of articles, images, and items. Now we have this noble award, can
> we still call this an encyclopedia ?
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Leila Zia  wrote:
>
> > congratulations, everyone, for the amazing work you've done for bringing
> > Wikipedia where it is today! It's amazing to take a moment and look back
> on
> > all what's achieved! :-)
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
> >
> > > Wow thanks for the link - but wait, bagpipes?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Salvador A 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi community
> > > >
> > > > I share with you the link to see (just now) the ceremony of the
> > Princess
> > > of
> > > > Asturias prize giving, to see it online. There's an option to hear
> the
> > > > audio in English:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rtve.es/noticias/premios-princesa-asturias/directo/
> > > >
> > > > Congratulations to all!
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > >
> > > > --
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