[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-08 Thread Chris Keating
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 8:40 PM Chris Keating wrote: > I too am disappointed (but not surprised) that STV had almost no effect at >> all on the outcome of this election >> > > This may be true, but if it's true, it was only true very narrowly. The > margin betwee

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results for the most contended Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2021-09-07 Thread Chris Keating
> > I too am disappointed (but not surprised) that STV had almost no effect at > all on the outcome of this election > This may be true, but if it's true, it was only true very narrowly. The margin between the 4th and 5th placed candidates was 12.27 votes in a situation where 1,188 were needed to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-23 Thread Chris Keating
> > > >> The costs of doing this now will hardly have been prohibitive. >> Commissioning a report like this would have been well within the WMF's >> means in 2013 as well. (The WMF reported a budget surplus of $13 million in >> 2013.) So I stand by my assertion: the WMF could have done then what

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Conflict of Interest - Transition from Trustee to Staff

2021-06-29 Thread Chris Keating
29 Jun 2021 at 20:58, Chris Keating > wrote: > > > Mistakes will always be made where human judgement is involved, but it > seems > > that this one is being remedied and learned from both quickly and openly. > > For those of us not on the call; how so? > > -- &g

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Conflict of Interest - Transition from Trustee to Staff

2021-06-29 Thread Chris Keating
+1 to this - thank you to the senior staff who led the call, as well as the team that organised it at short notice, and to the Board members who attended. I would like to echo Jan-Bart's sentiments. Mistakes will always be made where human judgement is involved, but it seems that this one is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-27 Thread Chris Keating
> > I will note that, as Chris pointed out, even WMUK's current policies > would permit a transaction like the one we're discussing if approved > by the Board ("no trustee may _without the consent of the board_" > [8]), and Wikimedia Austria's Good Governance Kodex would permit it if > approved by

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Amanda and Maggie, On the whole I am a great fan of this kind of office hour and believe it does a lot to improve communication between the WMF and community members. However this is not a problem of communication. The people speaking up in this thread are largely not the people who are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Chris Keating
> > > >> It is a good practice to create a 12 month waiting period before board >> members of non-profits can become a staff member/paid contractor/consultant. >> > > A few people mentioned that their own orgs or committees have norms or > policies around this (Chris, Philip, Tito); could you

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Amanda, Thanks for the detailed comments. However, still, this doesn't really help that much. >From your email it seems that over several months the WMF has created a new role which just happens to be ideal for its outgoing Chair to fill, and indeed could scarcely be filled by anyone else

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-23 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Maggie, Thanks for the clarification, but that doesn't really affect anything. Staff roles vs contractors/consultants are not that different. And the fact that you didn't discuss the post with Maria while she was on the Board doesn't mean it isn't a governance problem. First because decisions

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-23 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Maggie, I am flabbergasted. It is verging on inappropriate for the WMF to immediately hire a trustee the moment they step down from the Board. I could just about understand if the focus was solely on the executive transition. But this seems much wider. As a former affiliate Chair I would

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Regional Committees for Grants

2021-05-23 Thread Chris Keating
So while this thread has highlighted many sensible comments and questions, I also want to recognise the value in the approach the WMF is taking to this. A consistent piece of feedback within the Movement is that support in the form of grants and capacity-building feels remote from most affiliates

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COVID-19 second wave and protection of our most valuable movement asset

2021-04-24 Thread Chris Keating
> > > Personally I feel, insuring individuals against COVID-19 or helping people > to get vaccines or sending other supports can be better handled locally by > local affiliates (or local committees as proposed by Tito, whichevers seems > fit) instead of a central organization like WMF. Local

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy support in the next 10 weeks

2021-04-14 Thread Chris Keating
Hello all, A group of us who have previously been involved with the strategy process have made a proposal on how to move the Movement Charter process forward. It's on Meta as well:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikimedia Enterprise API project

2021-03-16 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Liam! Great to see such clear and thorough documentation of what this project is about, why we're doing it, and why it's being done in this particular way. Regards, Chris / The Land On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:03 PM Liam Wyatt wrote: > Dear all, > > Over the last few months, a small

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Surveys using third party tools on Wikimedia projects

2021-02-15 Thread Chris Keating
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:59 AM Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Did anyone ask? > > No, no-one did ask. Which is one reason that it's regrettable this conversation has kicked off with a confrontational on-wiki vote. I would be interested to hear what the WMF's current position on this is.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Feedback: Community Board seats and February 2 office hours

2021-02-03 Thread Chris Keating
I have to say the more I look at the 'options' we are asked to feed back on, the more confused I get. So far as I can see there are options relating to: 1) whether there should be elections a) to the Board itself, b) to a "selection committee" that will nominate Board members, or c) not at all 2)

[Wikimedia-l] Some thoughts on the Movement Charter

2020-12-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi all, hope you're having a good festive season. England has storms, snow, Covid and Brexit. I've taken the opportunity to put some thoughts on Meta about what principles the Movement Charter might contain. This is not really an attempt at actually drafting the charter, more a way of organising

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF transfers $8.7 million to "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund"

2020-12-14 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Lisa, that's very reassuring. Again, I know there will be more info on the Knowledge Equity Fund in the > new year. I ask your patience for the folks initiating this and trust that > they will share more soon. > I look forward to hearing more from those folks in due course. There must be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF transfers $8.7 million to "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund"

2020-12-14 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Lisa. That statement makes a lot of sense, though I do have some questions still. > > Our first priority was to ensure that we had enough funding to support > community grants. We transferred the full amount for Annual Plan Grants > (APG) for FY20-21 over to Tides to ensure that all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 201, Issue 38

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Keating
Hi John, Well that is part of the answer - though Tides will evidently also be making other grants as well (what, to whom and what for is unclear) But this also raises quite a lot of questions about the APG grants. Who is now determining who gets how much? The FDC has been de facto abolished,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF transfers $8.7 million to "Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund"

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Keating
So, the text in the FAQs is as follows: "This year’s report says that the Wikimedia Foundation provided an unconditional grant of $8.723 million to Tides Advocacy for the Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund. What is the Wikimedia Knowledge Equity Fund? A portion of our grant to Tides Advocacy will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

2020-12-07 Thread Chris Keating
I think it would be great if this sub-thread could come to an end and we could stop having the list clogged up with questions about one person's editing history. Also, I can't quite remember the list policy on people who are blocked from one or more Wikipedias for disruptive behaviour

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

2020-09-11 Thread Chris Keating
Glad to see this is prompting some discussion! Dan - Asking candidates for their current salary is prohibited in San Francisco > as of July 2018 [1] which means that, as a San Francisco based > organisation, the Foundation will undoubtedly not be doing this. > Very glad to hear it! > > There

[Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

2020-09-11 Thread Chris Keating
Good morning everyone! There's a campaign(1) for nonprofits to disclose the salaries, or at least salary ranges, on job ads. An increasing body of evidence(2) shows that practices like not disclosing expected pay, and requiring applicants to disclose their current salary, is harmful to equity in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Update on Branding

2020-06-22 Thread Chris Keating
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM Gnangarra wrote: > > I think its fair to call for you to stand aside since taking full > responsibility for the failing to communicate the Boards actions with the > community and the communities position with the Board. > > Really, no. We want Board members who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-06-16 Thread Chris Keating
It's interesting that of all the strategy recommendations, two are so far being implemented. One is the Universal Code of Conduct, which has at least had plenty of discussion and publicity, that even precedes the strategy process. The other is this, which hasn't been particularly prominent before,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-04 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Aron, > > I see this as a fundamental issue, that's strongly related to why so much > harassment (and lesser forms of incivility) are part of our everyday > editing experience (I'm talking about less-known members of the community, > who aren't protected by their established status, not us).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-03 Thread Chris Keating
> > Superprotect is now over five years old. Superprotect's removal is now over > four years old. It was a mistake, and it was explicitly acknowledged as > such: the then-ED of the WMF said it had "set up a precedent of > mistrust". Almost all of the people involved in it are no longer affiliated

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Candidates for new mandate

2020-01-23 Thread Chris Keating
To me the main surprise is that AffCom continues to exist despite being obviously broken. It does not fulfill its mandate, it never has done, everyone knows this, yet still the WMF is happy to have a non-functional committee. Chris On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:23 AM Alessandro Marchetti via

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation elections committee: Call for volunteers

2020-01-12 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Joe, I have some questions! I don't know whether they are best addressed to you, or someone else, but - I can't find any evidence of the Elections Committee having met since the conclusion of the 2017 elections - am I missing something? (The 'Minutes' page seems to only refer to 2015

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Chris Keating
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 6:29 AM Paul J. Weiss wrote: > I find the disbanding of the Community Engagement department at WMF to be > quite concerning. I will go so far as to say that I view it as a mistake > that will have negative impacts well into the future. > Actually I think the opposite is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Chris Keating
> > This has nothing to do with how green WMF operations might be. It has > to do with the greener choices /we/ as volunteers can make for /our/ > conferences. > Since a fortnight ago you were haranguing* the WMF for using too much air travel and lacking "any actual measurable commitment to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group

2019-10-07 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Ziko, I believe the only "official" rationale is in the 2012 Board resolution: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/Recognizing_Models_of_Affiliations and the thinking behind this is documented here, also from 2011-12. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_project I do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

2019-10-06 Thread Chris Keating
> > > the wishlist only reflects > > the needs and perceptions of highly active contributors [at present I > think > > it only accepts submissions in English ,which is another obstacle, but > that > > could be addressed]. > > The wishlist has explicitly accepted wishes in any language. Thanks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

2019-10-05 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Yuri, I just wanted to respond to this as I think there are two levels of issue here, and on one level I agree and on another I disagree! On the more immediate level about "ok, there's a technical wishlist, what should we do with it" - I think it's a reasonable decision for the WMF to opt to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FY1819 Fundraising Report

2019-10-03 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Chuck, The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never really answered in the first place. The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level data is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the WMF or individuals because they're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-18 Thread Chris Keating
://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Roles_%26_Responsibilities/Recommendations Thanks, Chris Keating User:The Land On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 7:37 PM Nicole Ebber wrote: > Dear fellow Wikimedians, > > They’re here! [1] We are delighted to announce the fi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcoming Ryan Merkley to the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-08-15 Thread Chris Keating
> "*support the strategy core team to move the Working Group recommendations > into implementation within the community and Foundation over the course of > the coming year."* > > Does that mean that it has already been decided to implement those > rcommendations, irrespective to the views of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-14 Thread Chris Keating
> > > I have some bigger concerns with a few of the other strategy proposals and > I am thinking about how to engage with the people who made those proposals. > I don't want people to feel that their ideas are being casually dismissed, > nor do I want to have hostility between the WGs and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Ziko, There is in fact a rationale within the text of the recommendation. In essence, it's that some communities will never share their heritage if it can then be re-used in a manner they consider disrespectful. Of course one can disagree with that statement on a factual level, or ask for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Yaroslav, > No, it does not work like this. Large communities are only going to accept > decisions which were discussed with them properly, on their project and in > the two-way interaction mode. The discussions on Meta in the mode "we will > listen to you and then let you know of our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some goodbye to all

2019-06-20 Thread Chris Keating
> > It is extremely disappointing, and *extremely typical* of the Wikimedia > movement, to see an entire thread like this dedicated to supporting someone > who Trust & Safety has found to have acted in such a way that they had to > intervene. It is even more disappointing to see a person who was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Health, Roles & Responsibilities

2019-06-17 Thread Chris Keating
> > Here's a fundamental source of disagreement. It gets at something I'm not > sure the strategy process is properly addressing. Does the WMF lead and > direct the Wikimedia movement? Personally, I don't think the WMF knows the answer to this, either in practice, or what they want. We are in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of the Affiliate Selected Board Seats voting

2019-06-14 Thread Chris Keating
Hi all, I just wanted to note that the facilitators have now posted their meeting notes from the election process: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2019/notes These clearly raise some issues. Hopefully these issues can be addressed before any future similar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-13 Thread Chris Keating
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > Going there dismissing the whole issue as a sexist mob doing GamerGate kind > of stuff, what was she expecting, really. > > Maybe she was expecting people to read what she actually said, and engage with it,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Chris Keating
> > So, pretty much every discussion is decided by those who choose to > participate in it. I don't know any way around that; we can't force people > to participate. At some point, if you don't stick your hand up, you don't > get counted. > > Well, Maria Sefidari (Raystorm) showed up and ended up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Chris Keating
I think we should probably reflect on the fact we've got to the point where arguments along the lines of "This guy shouldn't be blocked, he was only telling people to fuck themselves" are sort of normal. This kind of behaviour wouldn't be acceptable in any other movement or community or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-15 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Asaf for this thoughtful email! I just want to respond to this bit - after all, the history is the history: > > It is WMF that is not behaving collaboratively here. And it is within > WMF's power to change it. C-levels, the ED, and other managers at WMF > could all decide to participate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Board WMNL

2019-05-10 Thread Chris Keating
> > (new) Jan Bart de Vreede, community health > > I'm not sure "new" is quite the right word, possibly "recycled" ;) Chris ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] branding is bikeshedding, how about CTO criteria or working group lists instead?

2019-04-16 Thread Chris Keating
ement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Diversity (2) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Roles_%26_Responsibilities > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 10:53, Chris Keating > wrote: > > > In m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] branding is bikeshedding, how about CTO criteria or working group lists instead?

2019-04-16 Thread Chris Keating
In many ways yes - not that branding isnt important, but these two conversations are a great example of people engaging with the narrow questions that are easy to have a view on, and not the big, difficult questions. (Though also, there is nothing more interesting on the working group email lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-09 Thread Chris Keating
> At the occasion, we should also reconsider the expressions "chapter" > and "user group". > "Chapter" is more suitable for local divisions of a national > association. And "user group" sounds just like some group. We also > already have "user group" as a technical term in MediaWiki. > You may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate Selected Board Seats - Resolution finalized. Next steps.

2019-04-06 Thread Chris Keating
Thank you, facilitators, for your hard work on this process! Chris (ASBS facilitator the last two times around) On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 11:12 AM Ad Huikeshoven wrote: > Hi all, > > The Election Facilitators met on Friday, April 5. We finalized the > resolution, which is now frozen.[1] The Board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [strategy process] Fwd: I decided to leave the working group

2019-03-28 Thread Chris Keating
Hello, I just want to chime in here. Like Itzik I'm a working group member with a community and chapter background, unlike him I am not resigning :) I certainly identify with many of the frustrations he shares. Everything in the process is slow and that is very frustrating for those of us who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Foundation events team

2019-03-05 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks for the update Maggie and welcome Joel and Isabel! I just wanted to ask about this bit of your email: > this new Events > Team, which will be focused on convenorship -- a critical part of our > outreach and growth dynamic. I haven't heard the word "convenorship" before, could someone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing stress and friction in interactions between WMF, affiliates, and community

2019-02-23 Thread Chris Keating
On this note, here's an essay I wrote along similar lines in 2016. I think things have improved significantly since then, but most of the observations are still true... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:The_Land/Why_do_They_always_do_It_wrong On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:01 PM Pine W wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changed plus next steps

2019-02-21 Thread Chris Keating
The way I'm making sense of the timeline is: Last summer the Board remembered that the ASBS was coming up (in among all their conversations about the strategy). Probably in July they discussed it for the first time and they asked AffCom to look at a way of including User Groups. At the November

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-19 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Micru, How about documenting your insights on here. I know a number of people in the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank you very much for sharing.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws

2019-02-07 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Maria, I wondered if there was any news about whether the Board had, in the end, adopted any of these proposals. I see that the ASBS process is now on the agenda for the Wikimedia Summit in late March. There is now not much time to figure out who is going to run this process and what the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws

2018-12-08 Thread Chris Keating
Same here! TL:DR – This might not be a great idea, because it’s not what User Groups were designed for. And shouldn’t the WMF Board be thinking more broadly than this sort of fiddling round the edges? Chris Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Lane Rasberry Sent: 07 December 2018 17:13 To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Pine, Standardising reporting across affiliates is an attractive-sounding idea in theory but turns out to be very difficult in practice. A few issues that spring to mind: - User Groups are meant to be a low-barrier-to-entry, lightweight form of affiliation. Basically you need 10 people and a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board of Trustees July 2018 meeting minutes

2018-10-17 Thread Chris Keating
An interesting read! Thank you Charles (and indeed the Board) for a significantly more substantive set of minutes than has been the practice in the past - I don't know how recent that change is but it's very welcome Chris On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 9:36 PM Chuck Roslof wrote: > > Hi all, > > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Keating
I think there's a question to think about, about how the movement handles this kind of situation where there are evidently serious governance problems affecting an affiliate. There are some clear-cut situations (e.g. total inactivity) where the current de-recognition process can simply be

[Wikimedia-l] Movement strategy - some thoughts on issues to address

2018-10-06 Thread Chris Keating
Hello, I've just written a short essay on Meta about issues I think the Movement Strategy working groups ought to be thinking about. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:The_Land/Tensions_facing_movement_strategy tl:dr: Firstly, '''accountability''' and '''equality''' are both complicated

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-29 Thread Chris Keating
America, Europe and Everywhere Else, which now seems to have been quietly abandoned (like... has it?) Thank you for engaging in this conversation, Chris On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 4:28 PM Andrew Lih wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 4:31 AM Chris Keating > wrote: > > > Hi Lodewijk, &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-29 Thread Chris Keating
rences, committee meetings, > strategy processes, consultations and side conferences. > > Lodewijk > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:36 AM Chris Keating > wrote: > > > > > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up > > in > > > > t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Keating
> > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > > consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:10 PM Andrew Lih wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating > wrote: > > > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-27 Thread Chris Keating
So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in peoples' minds in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Chris Keating
I have so many questions. Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and capacity-building work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in the abandonment of the main capacity building event?) And why

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-23 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Paolo, In my experience Wikimedia staff are always just as committed and enthusiastic as volunteers - it's not a job anyone takes if all they care about is collecting their paycheque. :) But where I share some of your concern is with the balance of some of the working groups. Staff and board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel joins the nationwide strike to protest the exclusion of gay couples the right to become parents

2018-07-21 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:23 AM Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi Itzik, > > > I do not oppose the LGBT movement, but please explain how an official support > of that falls under the global Wikimedia project's mission, and does not > dilute our policy of avoiding having a stance on issues that are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustees participation in the Movement Strategy Process

2018-07-19 Thread Chris Keating
ar. > > > > > Which group focuses on information quality and accuracy? > > > > And which group focuses on information breadth and coverage? > If these are cross-cutting issues touching on many groups, where should > relevant input go? > > On Thu, Jul

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustees participation in the Movement Strategy Process

2018-07-19 Thread Chris Keating
No-one seems to be particularly sure if the Advisory Board is still a thing or not. https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Board is marked as historical and possibly inaccurate, and it hasn't been edited for about 7 years! Chris User:The Land On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:48 PM Craig Newmark

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

2018-07-09 Thread Chris Keating
Congratulations to Wikimedia France for undertaking this review and publishing the results. I believe all of the 3 governance reviews are important reading for anyone involved with the WMF or any of the affiliates, and all have important lessons for the movement. It's interesting to note that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

2018-06-15 Thread Chris Keating
Very diplomatic, Seddon! But... no. Seriously. Let's not pretend that having the WMF ED send a bunch of emails to Wikimedia donors about general US public policy issues is a remotely good idea. Chris On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hi James. > > Your suggestion is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update #4: Upcoming call for participation in Working Groups

2018-06-07 Thread Chris Keating
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:31 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Oh, it's this discussion again. This is my favorite discussion. > Movement roles discussion is how we got the UK chapter recognized as a > charity capable of political lobbying. That was satisfying. > > Maybe we can get the letter to donors

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update #4: Upcoming call for participation in Working Groups

2018-06-07 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Katherine! Thanks for the update and look forward to the call for working groups. I don't know if anyone has considered where the boundary will lie between the different groups. For instance, "roles and responsibilities" strikes me as potentially having a big overlap with "resources" - given

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspension of FDC grantmaking

2018-04-26 Thread Chris Keating
be sharing more information and updates on this mailing list and > on Meta and I look forward to your contribution to this process. In the > meantime, I hope that we can count on you for reviewing this current round > of FDC proposals > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Pro

[Wikimedia-l] Suspension of FDC grantmaking

2018-04-25 Thread Chris Keating
Hello, I read in a Facebook discussion about the Wikimedia Conference that the Annual Plan Grants are being paused (or stopped or suspended or something) shortly, presumably after the end of the Round 2 deliberations that are going on. Can't see any information about this on the list, or the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-07 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Zubin, > As a rare newcomer to the Wikimedia project, I've been thinking of some of > the factors that seem to discourage me from contributing and one of the > primary ones seem to be the fact that the way the administration is > organized and rules enforced is often vague and unclear. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] First content made for Wikipedia in space!

2017-11-29 Thread Chris Keating
Glad to see that the final frontier is falling to Wikipedia! Lovely blog post Andy. This reminds me that (entirely separately) there was an initiative to send copies of Wikipedia into space, does anyone know if that every happened? Chris Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Andy Mabbett Sent:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Recommendations, Round 1 2017-18

2017-11-20 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks FDC for your hard work on the recommendations, and It's great to see so many applicants earning full funding this time! Chris On 20 Nov 2017 5:43 pm, "Bishakha Datta" wrote: > Dear Wikimedians, > > The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) meets twice a year to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2017-11-08 Thread Chris Keating
Congrats to Jack and Olushola! I am sure you will do a great job. Kirill – I know this last round of recruitment started some time ago (in June?) – do you expect the next round to run any more quickly? Regards, Chris Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kirill Lokshin Sent: 08 November 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018: Program themes, eligibility criteria and reporting deadlines

2017-10-25 Thread Chris Keating
So will there be a broader discussion about the future of the Wikimedia Conference that's open to people who are not attending? I could certainly see a group of people in a conference hotel for a weekend deciding that they are a vital forum for important decisions about the future of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018: Program themes, eligibility criteria and reporting deadlines

2017-10-24 Thread Chris Keating
I just want to add my 2p on this. I raised my eyebrows last year when so many people were invited to WMCON but I could see the rationale for one-off face-to-face strategy conversations. However I am concerned by the idea that WMCON is now turning into a large, standing,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Results of the 2017Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Keating
2017 at 11:14, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all and particularly the Elections Committee! > > I just wondered what is happening in terms of post-mortem on the elections. > There was a call for comments on Meta - is there any kind of active review

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Results of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Keating
Hello all and particularly the Elections Committee! I just wondered what is happening in terms of post-mortem on the elections. There was a call for comments on Meta - is there any kind of active review by the Election Committee happening? I know in previous years the EC has often made extensive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

2017-10-10 Thread Chris Keating
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > I wouldn't call information from Wikimedia projects a "mush", but I > think it's a good term for the proprietary amalgamation of information > and data from many sources, often without any regard for the > reliability

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FY1617 Fundraising Report just published

2017-09-30 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Sam! And the whole fundraising team – the report makes very interesting reading, and the continued progress in raising more money from less-irritated donors is impressive. Regards, Chris Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Samuel Patton Sent: 29 September 2017 20:18 To: Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Emerging Communities: a proposed new definition

2017-09-29 Thread Chris Keating
> I would like to thank the Community Resources team for dropping the highly > discriminatory division into North and South and for proposing a more nuanced > approach. Indeed - this is a really useful step forward, and much more practical for the way our movement works. Plus we can now stop

[Wikimedia-l] FW: Mon départ

2017-09-02 Thread Chris Keating
her resignation inevitable and she feels she has achieved everything she possibly can with the organisation. (There is no mention of her leaving date or interirm arrangements) Regards, Chris Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nathalie Martin Sent: 02 September 2017 11:00 To: M. Chris KEATING

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Scholarships for people whose visa were declined

2017-08-11 Thread Chris Keating
Sounds very sensible! Chris On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Katherine Maher just announced at Wikimania 2017 that all scholarship > recipients who were unable to obtain a visa, will be automatically > granted a scholarship for Wikimania 2018. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-04 Thread Chris Keating
> Interesting but: "The review, commissioned by Wikimedia UK..." exactly who? > Board, community, general assembly, group of members? > By the Board. The dynamics were different to the current situation with Wikimedia France, in that the Wikimedia UK Board at the time was not engaged in a big

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-04 Thread Chris Keating
A few weeks ago I think I found a copy of WMFR's chapter agreement on a Wiki somewhere. I had the impression (maybe wrongly) that it renewed each January, and had to be cancelled by either party 3 months in advance if they did not wish to renew it. That puts the WMF's decision point somewhere in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-03 Thread Chris Keating
> A few French wkipedians are not happy with the board and some of the > employees. They are about 25-30% of Wikimedia France members To be honest, 25-30% of WMFR members is quite a lot. And, don't forget, include roughly half of the Wikimedia France Board elected at the last General Assembly.

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum

2017-07-28 Thread Chris Keating
Forwarding on the worryingly sensible discussion of this "copyfraud" from the wikimediauk-l mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Deryck Chan Date: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum To: UK

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Please welcome new chair for Wikimedia UK

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Keating
Congratulations Josie! And delighted to see that Wikimedia UK has its highest ever numbers of members and volunteers. :) Regards, Chris (former Wikimedia UK chair from back deep in the mists of time) On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Michael Maggs wrote: > Dear friends > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Keating
2017-07-12 1:34 GMT+01:00 Natacha Rault : > So this is the translated part stopping in may 2017 (recent developments not > included) I had a bit of spare time this morning so I've translated part of May (below). 4 May 2017 Explanation of the number of resignations from the

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